It wasn't too bad. The course designers did a good job setting up around the water. There were still a few moments where I completely lost steering while driving through a muddy patch.

It isn't mine. I would love to own it. $6-9K is a little too much for me for a toy.

@@ojannen I understand. Do you mind sharing more about your playing experience and the story of this horn? Is it in the United States? How was it purchased? I know others might use it as a toy, but I am considering using it as my professional euphonium, mostly for ergonomic and intonation reasons.

Thanks. The key is to never lift and to violently saw at the steering wheel. On second thought, that might not be the key. It is currently working for me though.

@@ojannen That sounds like my strategy. "Foot to the floor and hope for the best" lol. I was the goober that de-beaded a tire on the red GC Impreza.

This instrument gives more of a tuba sound than a euphonium or a German style baritone. When you push more air into it, it responds more like a cylindrical bore instrument.

@@ojannen It sounds like a Tuba but higher pitched.

He fixed the important damage with tape. The car is all better now (at least according to him).

It is a trombone mouthpiece. An alto horn or tenor horn mouthpiece would probably work a lot better. Mine only went about 3/8" into the horn.

The slots are pretty wide so you can bend up or down easily if your buzz is in tune. The valves were never great. I ended up with the thicker Hetmans and they are least get through a rehearsal. The faster test piece stuff can get tricky though.

@@ojannen which Hetmans do you use? I have light.

@@peterdeboer8924 I use the standard weight (#3) or classic (#2). I use light piston on everything else but it just doesn't work on this horn.

@@ojannen with these valve concerns, would you recommend this baritone? Or would it be better to find a different name brand? Thanks

@@peterdeboer8924 I ended up keeping the 3+1 Schiller Brass Band Elite: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w0zQh8gt2As.html. I am doubling on baritone so adjusting to the compensating 3rd valve on this horn was tricky. I would rather have a sharp 23 and alternate fingerings that more closely match euphonium tendencies. The valves on the non-comp horn are also a little shorter and were better on the horn that I tried. In addition to the valve issues, I had my repair guy flare the tuning slides so they stopped leaking air, replace water key corks for the same reason and resoldered some braces. I would consider going with Wessex, John Packer or another company that tweaks the horns after they get here. Or make sure your tech is willing to do custom stuff on Chinese horns.

my main question, unanswered as yet, is why is the bell not a standard size for mutes? i need to practise silently'ish, but i'me told that a trombone mute is too big & a trumpet one, too small. (i already have a yamaha silent system for trombone). i so want one of these, with all its other faults, but can't play loudly where i live! so annoying. IMHO a massive mistake in the design! rant over!

I am a trombone/euphonium player so I used what I had. I think the big problem was the gap in the receiver is too large with a small shank mouthpiece. I may try to turn down a cheap 12c to the right size for the leadpipe and see if it works better.

@@ojannen I know nothing about horns, never played a brass instrument but I hope to get one of these to get to grips with playing a brass instrument.

It seems like Nuevo could make a silicone “mouthpiece” that had a deep cup like a flugelhorn or alto horn mouthpiece. I’m a luddite when it comes to stuff like that, but it doesn’t seem like it’d be any harder to than making the mouthpiece cups they already have. I guess if enough people asked for it… You sound great, btw. 🙂

@@iplayfhorn it co.es with three rubber type mouth piece fittings

I am playing with a small shank trombone mouthpiece in the video. It fits but it does not sit in the correct place in the leadpipe. I think a tenor horn mouthpiece would be a perfect. In the video, I am working pretty hard to get the horn in tune with mixed success at best. A few open notes were notably flatter than the rest of the horn. I bought the horn to so my son could play with an instrument without giving me an anuerysm. It is working well for that but I don't think I will ever play it in public.

@@ojannen Very good ! thanks ! ; )

I live near Warburton and I am debating getting a scratch and dent shank turned down.

I wanted to see what it sounded like with a reasonable mouthpiece. There is a bit of hit and miss.

I am good at that maneuver too.

I like to use it for testing horns as it includes a little bit of everything.

It works pretty well for a cheap horn. I like the fourth valve mostly for the alternate fingering possibilities but it isn't really necessary. I ended up going to a 2 part Warburton mouthpiece with a medium cup and a 5* backbore. It takes some of the edge off of the sound and makes it sound more like a bigger bell Besson. It sounds like this (using the same gopro to record): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lBj_f-el7iI.html

Have you ever listened to Katrina Marzella?

I come from a euphonium background so I listened to as many people as possible to get a sound concept for baritone. Katrina was on the list. She sounds great.

She does!!!