Garbage ....I did 3 separate boil tests between this pot and my 1100ml Toaks titanium pot with .5 liter of water and there was no difference between the boil times. This was using a Soto Windmaster stove. Not worth the money as a heat exchanger pot over my Toaks, especially for the weight penalty....
The best example I have seen is a test outside of two kettles one with heat exchanger one without, pot diameters are a factor as is wind. The heat exchanger can give a narrower pot an advantage as it increases the surface area and reduces wasted heat that would escape up the side of the pot, it makes the biggest difference when the stove is burning at full capacity. My jetboil and windburner definitely boil faster than my windmaster on a 750ml titanium pot, but not much faster than if I use a wider diameter kettle.
Bro, this is a 1 person tent. What are you expecting the size of a 2 person tent? This is nice bivy sack with a nice rain fly and vestibule. Northface is a trusted brand. Why are you nagging about that its too small inside? This is designed for lightweight backpacking. (facepalm galore) Also why are you complaining about the rocky ground and your pegs & guylines not being useful there? Choose your camp spots better or don't go out at all. Not even a $1000 tent would work well there due the rocky ground. Your entire video seems like a big whinge. Its like crying because its snowing in Alaska in January. What else did you expect while being in Alaska then? Warmth and tropic palm trees? You don't seem to be very experienced in backpacking or use of tents.
Wow, you are legitimately retarded 😂. Not once was I complaining in the video about the size of the tent or character of the terrain. Get your head out of your ass and the shit out of your ears, young blood. Stick to your local KOA before you hurt yourself, tard.
Should be more noticeable with the stove at minimum - which is more fuel efficient anyway. Heat transfer also strongly correlates to material type and thickness. Aluminum is better at transfering heat, but that pot is obviously thicker, so that impacts boil time negatively. I've super thin aluminum cups that end up with a faster boil time than my titanium cups of the same size. Pot Diameter is also important. There's plenty info out there on that. And yeah distance between pot and stove might make a difference and you said.
If you do Hurricane Wash to Coyote Gluch you don't need to climb up? I've seen videos of people climbing, is this trail avoid climbing? Thanks and great video
Yeah, in my experience any one person backpacking tenant will feel cramped for an adult. I generally use 2 person tents when I'm solo. If you're 6'3", I would think most backpacking tenants are going to feel short unless you sleep at a diagonal. Even then, you will probably need at least a 3 person tent to be able to fully stretch out.
I just had came back from another trip and it did great in some heavy winds that were pushing me back as I was standing. I think the rigidity of the trekking poles really help compared to the flexible poles of traditional ultralight tents. I know you get some really STRONG winds in Ireland and other parts of Europe, but for an ultralight tent, the X-Mid is pretty solid brother.
Thanks for the great vid! Do you have any tips on packing up a wet and rain-soaked X-Mid? Doing the West Highland Way in Oct. so Im expecting early morning starts in rainy weather
I was going to watch, but in the first 90 seconds you were swearing about people in the parking lot and ragging on the day hikers. Repulsive, arrogant attitude. Have a nice life, not interested in joining you. ✌🏼
Hi I have the Copper Spur in the olive green or sage colour. I like it because it's free standing. But the weight consideration using hiking polesd without the frame is interesting. You didn't mention the price difference of the two. How much please? I live in Western Australia and have been to Utah three times. I'm guessing that's where this was filmed. Would you care to enlighten me on where that is please?
There is quite a bit of difference in price between the two. I believe this version of the Copper Spur has since been updated, and retails for around $600 USD. The Xmid 2P is listed at $300 USD. I forget what I paid for it, but I believe it was closer to $200 USD when I bought it. I still have both tents. The convenience of a freestanding tent is nice. I think the Xmid is a bit lighter, but not enough of a difference to be a big deal for me personally. I do think the Xmid might do a little better in high winds due to the trekking pole structure. Also, the vestibules on the Xmid are much more usable.
@@uintabum4938 thanks for that. I have bèen to Green River but not Vernal. Very similar areas here. I paid about $600 AUD for the copper Spur here. That's a reasonable price fir the other. If you came to Oz you wouldn't be disappointed. Both countries have their similarities. I think Darwin and the Northern Territory offer more Outback experience and you wouldn't be disappointed. There's only 25 million people here and not many towns. Most major cities on the coast with very little in between. Lots of driving involved whatever you do. Best wishes with your plans. Drop me a line if you do make it.
@@michaelmcphee2930 Ah yes, I know know the Green River and Moab area well. We also have the actual Green River river that runs just east and south of Vernal. And then, there's the town of Green River, Wyoming 2 hours north, haha. Oz sounds like my kind of place...lots of wide open space to explore and very few people. If you are ever back in this park of the US (Utah, Colorado and Wyoming) and are looking for suggestions on places to go, give me a shout!
Nice video. I lost my Copper Spur 2 and have been deciding on getting another or the Durstan 2P (I have the 1P) or now the new Outdoor Vitals 2 person.
Looks like a wonderful trip. Were the fish hitting off the top or subaquatic? Mind telling me what flies worked the best for you? Thanks for bringing us along!
I’ve been watching many reviews of this tent. I really appreciate this video. I’m ready to buy the 2P, but it is not available until September/October. I prefer the solid inner as I sleep cold. It will not be available until 2023. I’ll be on the AT in October. Can’t wait until Fall. I’ve had enough of supply chain issues. Make the product in the U.S. and solve the “out of stock” issue. And that goes for everything, not just tents. Better yet, don’t close the economy because of a Chinese virus.
I took mine camping in northern vancouver island where it rains frequently, everyone else's tents were completely soaked and wetted through after 8 hours, I was the only one grinning 😅
Sorry for the slow reply! I don't fully recall, but I would estimate 4-5 hours from the parking area to my camp....give or take an hour depending on quickly you're moving. Once you get into the canyons, you'll probably want to stop and take in all the scenery. Hiking in the water makes for slow hiking as well.
I'll stick with a bomb-proof MLD TrailStar in Dyneema. It doesn't flap around in heavy wind let alone the breeze shown in the video. Dyneema is both expensive and noisier in rain but it's nice not having to stow a water-logged tent.
what type of connection is used on xmid to attach inner to outer ??? r the clips plastic ? do the " cords " go fron inner to fly or fly to inner ??? i have a TarpTent StratoSpire 1p that is same design as far as hooking up the inner but uses elastic ccord ..... we all know how long thatll last !!! DUMB !! the cords s attched to the inner so its a pain in the bleep to find the little plastic clips on the fly and make he connection !!!! crappy !! should be opposit & no elastic but a SMALL paracord / guyline material that rus from FLY to the INNER mesh body. and it ALSO, like ur xmid, hooks to the fly in 2 places pulling inward on the fly body !! sucky design !! xmid and my ss1p have NO guy points mid panel on the out side !!! how can that b good ??? NOT. its poor designing at best !! takes up alot of ground to set up wich in some wooed areas can be a real problem when parking for the night is limited AND u HAVE to SHARE a site !!!!! bring foam ear plugs in case they snore like a chainsaw !!!!!!!
Your corner stakes don’t appear to come out from the tent at 45 degrees? That makes them pull more along one side than the adjacent side. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
No more so than any other ultralight tent with a mesh inner. The X-mid outer has pretty good coverage between the tent and the ground. I've had other tents that were much draftier.
@@uintabum4938 Thank you kindly for the response! That's what a presumed. I'm trying to find a do it all tent but I guess that's just a figment of imagination. Here's to hoping Dan makes a solid inner for the Xmid some day!
Yes, I usually have all the guy lines staked out. I know it's not necessary, but I figure if they're there, I might as well use them. I haven't used a footprint with my X-mid. But If I knew I was going to be in more rocky environments, I'd probably print a small piece of tyvek that would at least protect the majority of the tent bottom.
If u look at your video were trecking pole handle is you will see a loop to tie your bathtub floor to trecking pole too so you do not have to hold floor to unzip it ...Just a note
Thanks for the comment. I am aware of the loops on the bathtub, but they actually do nothing with regards to adding tension to the zippers and upper part of the tent.. In comparison to a freestanding tent, the inner part of this tent is quite loose because there is no pole system to give it structure and tension. Not a big deal, just something to consider.
Thanks! Yes, it is still holding up well. It has done well the times that I have had it in wind. Keep in mind, it is still a ultralight backpacking tent and not an expedition level tent. That said, I think the fact that trekking poles are stronger than the foldable ultralight poles that come with other styles of tents will help it withstand windy conditions a bit better.
You are using the fire maple wrong. you are not suppose to fold out the potholders, so the pot sits on top, fold the potholders in so the pot can sit inside the heat exchanger ring against the pot bottom.
You are wrong. Whether the Soto's potholders are folded in or out, the pot will still sit on top of them. Watch other videos of pots with heat exchangers, and you will see it is the same case. Research before commenting.
@@aluminiumsloep that guy says "it doesn't have to fit inside, just his does". On other similar pot's instructions I've seen, it actually states to have the burner arms on the outer surface rather than pot bottom. Especially since some burners have a jet to concentrated to the middle, I imagine its to help heat uniformity and preventing one super hot spot which will burn food. hth
