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It's been almost 2 years since Logan and I took our vehicles out and did a self-driving test drive comparison between Tesla Autopilot/FSD and Comma Openpilot. A lot of things have changed for both systems so we're going to explain each system and then we'll go out and drive each other's cars. I'm going to experience Openpilot and Logan's going to drive my Tesla Model 3 and experience FSD Beta.
0:00 Tesla Autopilot vs Comma Openpilot
0:26 Tesla Autopilot/FSD Explained
1:33 Comma Openpilot Explained
4:22 Sponsor
5:45 Tesla Drive Part 1
7:11 Toyota Drive Part 1
8:27 Tesla Drive Part 2
11:18 Toyota Drive Part 2
13:47 Tesla Drive Part 3
15:47 Toyota Drive Part 3
18:40 Tesla Drive Part 4
22:40 Toyota Drive Part 4
28:38 Tesla Drive Part 5
39:47 Toyota Drive Part 5
43:00 Logan Final Thoughts
44:14 Andy Final Thoughts
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@aslye 2 года назад

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@gloomiehoodie Год назад

Sadly, Tesla is cutting corners to maximize profits by removing the LIDAR system and relying only on images from the cameras, which are not as good in combination with LIDAR. That gives a poor reputation to the AI autopilot system and a less desirable feature for the $15k price tag. Sorry Tesla, but I will keep my $15K for now until your creator stops juggling so many balls and give his full attention back to you.

@SACKO0731 Год назад

Hello, I just see they have traffic light now and the price is dropped, now is about $1600

@richmccartney3645 2 года назад

I used OP for a year before I bought my Tesla and for highway driving they are both great. I’ve done 2 1200 mile trips with each one and was able to drive straight through with minimal fatigue compared to before I had them. Great technology!

@KGBos 2 года назад

Which one are you leaning towards?

@ncironhorse8367 2 года назад

Hopefully the OpenPilot hardware has gotten better. My unit died just under a year. I was sent a replacement unit and that one lasted less than a month, I was told "sorry you are out of warranty now - we can send you another unit at discounted price". Well screw that.

@FukU2222 2 года назад

The new hardware is more expensive, that being said it has more/different features/tech

@ncironhorse8367 2 года назад

@@FukU2222 Still though it is limited to the cars capabilities such as the torque limits in the EPS.

@richmccartney3645 2 года назад

@@KGBos Tesla is better. Makes every curve on every road.

@LoganLeGrand 2 года назад

Thanks for collaborating! Tesla and FSD/Autopilot have come a long way. Will be interesting to see how they compare in another couple years!

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

They haven't come as far as openpilot, progressing faster Tesla charges a horrific price for their stuff, it's bogus comparison Tesla autopilot loses vs openpilot's system. FSD costs over 10k and shouldn't be compared

@3DGFan9000 Год назад

@@roboticvenom1935 biased much? as good and cool as open pilot is its pretty obvious autopilot is far ahead

@sheabrown 2 года назад

finally!!! been waiting for this. This will be great publicity for open pilot!!

@paratek_io 2 года назад

The best part about openpilot is that it's opensource and you can do what you want with the code. I modified my 2010 corolla and got openpilot lateral control in my old car. With a 3D printer, it only cost me ~$1300 and 5 months of my life.

@jamo8896 2 года назад

Stock EPS motor?

@paratek_io 2 года назад

@@jamo8896 Yes, I just had to create some pig tails to adapt it to the new ECU.

@lazerusmfh 2 года назад

😂 5 months wouldn’t do that if I was paid 10 grand

@tafl-9198 2 года назад

Joke ?

@paratek_io 2 года назад

@@tafl-9198 Serious. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HQXXrbj-QEY.html

@Leoninmiami 2 года назад

Thanks for the comparison!! Very much appreciated

@easternpa2 2 года назад

Nice follow-up. Glad to see you two together again. I came to Tesla after spending over a year with OpenPilot. I still have another car to replace and I'm undecided about whether it will be another EV or a gas car compatible with OpenPilot. Really great to see this updated shootout.

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

What are you thinking now?

@easternpa2 Год назад

@@roboticvenom1935 Well, I'm still working from home with no end in sight, so I still don't really need to replace my second car. After staring at a used '21 Camry Hybrid XSE with every option for $35k, a new fully loaded '22 Sonata Hybrid Limited for $38k popped up in my searches. Both cars would be good (or great) with OP, but both still run on gas and have a million things that can break under the hood if not maintained. OP on Hyundai's e-GMP cars is improving and the Ioniq 6 might be a better replacement for the Sonata (but not at $60k).

@johnreeves7261 2 года назад

Thank you for doing this video. I learned quite a bit. I'm looking to adding Comma OpenPilot to my car.

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

It's better then teslas autopilot on the highway!

@Stevesmith-yw7cr Год назад

Comma 3 is now $1495. I have Comma 2 on my Prius and had two problems. The fan went on mine so I added a computer fan and painted the exterior white to prevent overheating in the sun. The other problem is the GPS system went bad. Not a huge problem as the Comma 2 does not require GPS to operate. I do get a green bar error message but so what. I have had my comma 2 for over three years and it was a great investment. My Comma 3 is coming soon and it will be pretty much a direct drop in plug and play. My comma 2 has over 40K miles on it and for the $400 a year it cost to buy over the 3 years, it was a great buy.

@Jimmy-Legs 4 месяца назад

$1250 now.

@FGOKURULES 2 года назад

Hey Andy I'm in Louisville too.. I drive a M3SR+ with FSD Beta. Have you seen how it handles Speed Bumps? My M3 can now "See" the speed bump but won't slow down over them. This was just implemented last week. Before it would not even recognize speed bumps in the Driver UI.

@shadbakht 2 года назад

Very nice video! Thank you

@BrianDoig 2 года назад

Good video guys. Thanks!

@BassPlayerUnderGrace 2 года назад

FSD Beta does and has detected speed bumps for awhile now. FSD 10.2 even displays them now. It only slows to 18-19 mph for speed bumps though.

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

Openpilot claps the Tesla autopilot system FSD shouldn't even be compared, it costs $10K for a couple of sensors, it's a joke

@Jimmy-Legs 4 месяца назад

I think you need to rethink things

@johnlabernik4599 10 месяцев назад

How about an update on $15k Tesla FSD vs $1500 Comma OpenPilot?

@Jimmy-Legs 4 месяца назад

No comparison now. Not even close

@LinuxinaBit 2 года назад

Then you realize that someone made a fork of OpenPilot that supports Teslas...

@runed0s86 Год назад

Good. We shouldn't let Elon's servers crash us into things.

@MrGamelover23 Год назад

Outstanding move.

@yeh.80 Год назад

Tesla is the new apple, that's for sure.

@alexanderrobins7497 Год назад

Thank you for this information. Google searches have been useless when wondering how to get adaptive cruise control on Teslas. I might keep my eyes open on older used or salvage Teslas now.

@jmisc Год назад

Really? That will be cheaper than their 15,000 FSD cost.

@ronburgundy2626 2 года назад

Amazing how technology changes almost daily

@adamsawyer1763 2 года назад

I really like the Openpilot treatment of human steering input. Would like to see Tesla implement this when they're more confident of FSD Beta. It's just more comfortable to be able to smoothly correct it rather than alarm going and full disengagement. I'd guess it's going to provide more fine tuned human feedback for training purposes too.

@Aristotle2000 2 года назад

This a a huge advantage of openpilot. Another big advantage is that you can give gas input too (on most openpilot forks) in the same way without disengaging. AND you do not have to touch the steering wheel the whole time on openpilot.

@mowoau Год назад

this is how it work on all autopilot cars outthere aka Kona for example :) only Tesla is "special" and does not allow this.

@CYBERENA 2 года назад

thanks for video... im getting comma pilot for my highlander hybrid 2021

@tatradak 2 года назад

You have chosen very tricky places which a learner would really have the same troubles

@Brad-sb1dk 2 года назад

Andy, I haven't observed following distance adjustment having any influence when using FSD beta. Do you observe differences base on the setting?

@CYBRLFT 2 года назад

This is on 10.5 or 10.6? I remember back to driving on 10.2. It was pretty bad until 10.8 and we got a good step forward. Now I’m hopefully a day or so from 10.12.

@Ziyan01 2 года назад

Technology has grown quite a lot

@n.g3627 2 года назад

No shit

@Ziyan01 2 года назад

@@n.g3627 what?

@browerpower Год назад

I am sold. Saving for this device starts today!

@jacktheman1989 2 года назад

Teslas driver assist seems quite stressful to use. Yes, it’s driver assist, not FSD.

@trumpetdudekjk 2 года назад

That's false. It's called full self driving for a reason and it's still not available for public for this reason. Use autopilot if you don't want stress. Easy.

@k1fizz 2 года назад

@@trumpetdudekjk It's full self driving, because you're practically fully driving yourself.

@godmodeon666 2 года назад

@@trumpetdudekjk "Full self driving" yet gets confused at basically half of intersections and straight up almost went straight into oncoming traffic like 3 minutes into the trip. Nice.

@trumpetdudekjk 2 года назад

Hence why it’s still beta. also @k1fizz you’re speaking to an owner lmao

@k1fizz 2 года назад

@@trumpetdudekjk glad you can see the funny side of things. A lot of owners are getting pissed about this never getting released after paying so much money.

@Techridr Год назад

9:33 "I'm going to give it some gas" Old habits die hard :)

@frederick6886 2 года назад

Love the side by side/back to back comparisons. Great job Andy! But to go as far as saying OpenPilot is "not that far behind" is a bitttt of a stretch. They're clearly *very* far behind if they're not even stopping at stop signs & lights, auto lane change on highway, or taking exits on their own...

@aslye 2 года назад

I mean in the grand scheme of things. Logan knows more about what’s coming, but I believe comma is already testing stop sign and stop light recognition. I think Openpilot has more momentum than other manufacturers stock ADAS (other than Tesla)

@wheel95 2 года назад

@@aslye On the release2 branch for the past few ver., OpenPilot 'recognizes' stop lights+signs in the sense that its path doesn't draw past where it thinks you'll stop. Certainly doesn't do anything else yet, but I just wanted to clarify :)

@DerrickDJ 2 года назад

That is very honest and direct. FSD is a definitely WAAAAAY ahead of OpenPilot and to be fair, FSD has a head start and more resources behind it.

@SShireto 2 года назад

Don't forget Tesla has 8 cameras surrounding the car plus sensors, while the Comma has wide angle forward only. That a huge limit for auto lane change and navigation.

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

@@DerrickDJ But this is Tesla FSD $10-12K, teslas don't come with FSD, they come with basic openpilot which has less features then $28K Hyundais in some instances(no lane change) Openpilot competes with teslas basic autopilot, not teslas nutty $10k option, which does way less(teslas standard autopilot) and is mostly just lane centering on highways and certain roads.. it can't even change lanes

@theforge247fitness3 Год назад

Watched this video a while back and would love to see the comparison a year later

@MotorbikesandMemes 2 года назад

LOVE this video. Thank you Logan for comparing your car to Tesla's. This video has cemented my opinion that FSD is *not* a quality of life improvement. Quite the opposite, it's much more work than just driving the car manually. You're babysitting a toddler operating a car and waiting to catch it before it plows into a trailer, on top of the fact you can't assist it in any capacity. It's either engaged or disengaged. Meanwhile, Openpilot was shown in multiple situations that as a long time user I'd *never* use it in, like on city streets with cars along the sides and weird intersections. When it comes to highway driving, and more specifically 100-1000 mile road trips, Openpilot wins out without question.

@rachelkarengreen99 2 года назад

They are doing completely different things. Tesla is trying to make a self driving car that can work in any situation. Openpilot and the drivers assistance features that are in cars by default these days just make highway driving more chill, which is cool, but completely not the point of FSD.

@robpruzan7292 2 года назад

This is far from the truth if ur used to fsd beta. I let it drive me 99% of the time and let it take complicated intersections stress free. You know its limitations and how it will react. For example, the nudging is very easy to do but since the driver didn’t know how it seemed like baby sitting.

@mattbrown292 2 года назад

@@robpruzan7292 Sorry but no, FSD is stressful as hell. My inlaws have FSD and they are literally scared to use it because of the mistakes it has made. I don't mind FSD but i'm young and work in tech. I have a rav4 hybrid with openpilot and everyone in the family that has used both prefers openpilot. Sure fsd attempts to do more things but openpilot actually makes driving more relaxing. Openpilot lets you track your engagement time, in the past 1000 miles it has been engaged for 97% of them with both myself and my significant other using it. IMO the biggest problem with FSD is it doesn't work with you when you want to assist it. Openpilot integration is seemless in this regard. Also FSD,as you stated, has a learning curve.

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

AND FSD COSTS 12K AND HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY TESLA

@pip5461 2 года назад

Excellent comparison test, it's amazing how advanced the beta version is.

@nonyabizness8692 2 года назад

Does LTE work with forked versions? If so, is there any config changes to get it to work?

@KoWee 10 месяцев назад

Now the speed limit can be automatically adjusted using dragonpilot fork and smart DSU in my Prius 2016, based on online map in the background. (That's how I'm using it with comma 2.) You just have to set some maximum limit, then the openpilot adjust it according your location like resident area 20 km/h, coutry roads 90 km/h, cities or towns 50 km/h

@Dom_the_Bomb Год назад

What’s the point of getting the 1TB over the lower storage open pilot device? Is the storage for storing video recordings or something?

@kevmaninc201 Год назад

I have gotten so used to OpenPilot that I can no longer do long drives without it. Stock systems tend to lose lane lines very easily in the rain and other bad visibility conditions where OP can handle those no problem. I once drove 85 mph in the worst rain possible using OP and had more trust then if I was driving because it could see the lanes better than me. I am now very very sad that I got a new Pilot 2023 and there is no cable for the new car. I have to wait until the new wire comes out so I can use it.

@KayvonJavid Год назад

Hey I recognise where you are at. Louisville! Thats where I am from. Close to the highlands.

@AustinCameron 7 месяцев назад

Wasn’t expecting to see Louisville

@Resist4 2 года назад

I finally got the FSD beta and while some of it is great, that's only for day driving. At night the auto high beams automatically come on for auto steer to work because it turns off the radar (if you have it). This is so the beta can see better but it doesn't work correctly. It constantly goes to high beams on the freeway and oncoming traffic will constantly flash me. And it comes on behind traffic in front of me, which annoys them. I can turn it off temporarily with the stalk but it comes back.

@ericy.2108 2 года назад

It will stay off until you disengage autopilot, but yes auto high beam sorely needs attention from Tesla engineering

@Resist4 2 года назад

@@ericy.2108 Actually no, it doesn't stay off until I disengage autopilot. It stays on.

@ericy.2108 2 года назад

@@Resist4 you’re pushing the left stalk forward right? (if you have a 3/Y). Works for me

@harsimranbansal5355 2 года назад

Just pull the stock once whenever it does it, and it won’t turn on the high beams unless you disengage and re-engage.

@Resist4 2 года назад

@@harsimranbansal5355 this is not true. I have pulled the stalk when auto high beams came on to put them back in low beams, but they just came back on again a minute later.

@Rick9482 2 года назад

Definitely a young man's game cause as an older driver, I see no benefits to overseeing a system that's still in the learning stages. Just too much stress imo. I'd be giving up my biggest benefit of being a Tesla owner, the stress free driving. Long highway trips remain the primary usage for either system. Still, I enjoyed the video and learned quite a bit.

@Rick9482 2 года назад

Frankly, I don't see FSD getting government approval until our road system markings are more software friendly. The variables right now are rediculous as we can't even have our emergency vehicles give off a signal to indicate their presence. All it takes is a tiny electronic module attached to the roof.....dah. Software can do a lot but basic crap like that is a no brainer. I haven't heard one whisper of any government plans to do anything to promote an FSD system, any system. When Elon doesn't even get an invite to the president's meeting on EV's, it makes two things obvious, they hate Musk and their dumb as shit. I'm pretty sure they were afraid he'd dominate the meeting which, I'm afraid, is probably true as Musk doesn't play well with dummies. "10K no way" is my mantra in regard to FSD. Nice idea folks and all very futuristic but it ain't gonna happen.

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

@@Rick9482 then just use the car's lane centering stock system my guy, many of which are on par with teslas system "out of spec motoring has conducted an objective driver assistance stress test and multiple systems score same points as Tesla's standard autopilot

@JoeCnNd Год назад

To me it's only good on the highway. It's more stress to let it drive in the city than just doing it myself.

@ChrisLeiter 2 года назад

I got a ride in a Lyft ride this morning with Comma running the entire time, and my daily driver has FSD Beta (see my videos). Comma is impressive. FSD is definitely superior however.

@thomasthemarstrain2141 2 года назад

I hope to be able to afford a Tesla one day

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

But this is Tesla FSD $10-12K Openpilot competes with teslas basic autopilot, not teslas nutty $10k option, which does way less(teslas standard autopilot) and is mostly just lane centering on highways and certain roads.. it can't even change lanes

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

@@thomasthemarstrain2141 But this is Tesla FSD $10-12K Openpilot competes with teslas basic autopilot, not teslas nutty $10k option, which does way less(teslas standard autopilot) and is mostly just lane centering on highways and certain roads.. it can't even change lanes Just buy a EV with a way better interior, infotainment system, and value and add openpilot silly. FSD doesn't come with teslas, it's $12K for a few sensors!

@fitybux4664 Год назад

@@roboticvenom1935 You can buy an entire openpilot car for the price that Tesla charges for FSD. 😁 😆

@youngchirp12 8 месяцев назад

@@roboticvenom1935or just get a used Tesla with full self-driving already on a car there you go or enhance Auto parts and you straight

@MichaelBertolino 2 года назад

Would love to see a comparison with the new Genesis/Hyundai/Kia systems with HDA II! The Straight Pipes always says that they almost rival Teslas and beat the Teslas in some areas as well!

@Grant3758 2 года назад

Is it a better computer system behind the autonomous features or something? I'm dying to have a car that can dfive itself on long highway roadtrips

@MichaelBertolino 2 года назад

@@Grant3758 I touch the steering wheel on my 2021 Kia K5 maybe like 10 times when driving from my apartment to my parent's house. It's amazing. The HDA II is even better though. My car doesn't even have HDA I and it can do that

@Grant3758 2 года назад

@@MichaelBertolino dude that is insane. I might just buy one of the supported cars for road trips then..how cool!

@MichaelBertolino 2 года назад

@@Grant3758 That’s awesome! Glad to hear!

@LinuxinaBit 2 года назад

Well I guess George Hotz was right... The motto he gave Tesla is "Look at this cool feature," while Comma's motto is "Make driving chill."

@FukU2222 2 года назад

Not to mention how tight he was on the whole “rAdAr?!” Thing/insisting on solely using cameras

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

@TypicalBlox Год назад

@@roboticvenom1935 Openpilot 0.9 more than likely will start doing intersection turns ETA is by January 1st 2023

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

@@TypicalBlox can you let me know where I view openpilot's progress on RU-vid?

@harrisonwhorf3173 2 года назад

there are forks for comma that disable the torque limit on steering

@fitybux4664 Год назад

Then you bump up against the steering controller's limit. And modifying that hard limit requires reprogramming that Comma does not endorse. (It can be very dangerous to screw up your steering in such a way as to where it might overpower a human's ability to override it.)

@robpruzan7292 2 года назад

People overestimate how much torque autopilot requires. Its really a tiny bit of force u need for the nag to go away, but only do it in one direction, not a move back and forth

@RogerCullman 2 года назад

“Give it some gas” lol

@ericy.2108 2 года назад

I wouldn’t mind having the option of Autopilot automatically re-engaging once you’re back centered in the lane after a steering intervention.

@kaasmeester5903 2 года назад

Isn't that a legal issue? I think here in the EU at least, self driving (or things like adaptive cruise control or lane keeping) have to disengage after a major intervention.

@3DGFan9000 Год назад

@@kaasmeester5903 I would think openpilot would run into that same legal issue though wouldn't they?

@tinosingh1061 Год назад

New comparison, pls! FSD vs 0.9.x!

@fitybux4664 Год назад

Yes please!

@Martinko_Pcik Год назад

This is already old in April 2023. Both systems improved a lot since then

@ianpobanz12 2 года назад

At 3:28 he says he's using a custom software I have a 21 RAV4 hybrid I would love to get a link to that specific software! or a video showing how to find it!

@ChienDat 2 года назад

You can go in the discord of OpenPilot on Toyota channel

@JohnboyCollins Год назад

Can't say I'm incredibly impressed with the last three years of progressed in self-driving.

@kbenti Год назад

Waymo has done it exceptionally well. I'm impressed with their progress.

@pessoanocommander4872 Год назад

Please, can we change the units? For exemple, change mph to Kmh?

@Unkn0wnz_anon 2 года назад

At 1:00 what steering wheel is that? From where can I buy it?

@LetitDrive 2 года назад

Epic

@alexsielicki 2 года назад

Hi Logan, what fork are you running. Looks like StockAdditions maybe?

@LoganLeGrand 2 года назад

Yep I'm running Shane's Stock Additions branch 0.8.10.

@drewhjava 2 года назад

.@@LoganLeGrand I was hoping you were going to activate the new longitudinal model (on shanes fork) and show him it can slow down on curves and at stop at stop signs

@thomasthemarstrain2141 9 месяцев назад

Time for a new update! 😊

@breakfast7595 Год назад

They need to make it compatible with something like my 99 ES300 lol

@markmraven 20 дней назад

George has said Comma is consistently two years behind Tesla. This video is two years old. What does everybody think? Does today's Comma compare to two years ago's Tesla?

@bguy1979 Год назад

How is the Comma OpenPilot working out for you these days?

@lowspeed2000 2 года назад

Should have the versions of both in the title or description?

@yulmp2 Год назад

I’m surprised by this test. My wife’s 2022 rouge drives clearly marked roads just as good as these two. I thought Tesla was way better than this test shows.

@r2com641 2 года назад

There’s some minimal requirement I assume so that car is electronically steerable, correct?

@UglyG82 Год назад

Yes, you can check comma ai’s site to see if your car is compatible

@fitybux4664 Год назад

It is possible to use openpilot on a non-electronically steerable car. Basically, you just need to start hacking together mechanical parts. There are efforts to do this. BUT - you will end up spending much more of your time (assuming you value your time) than just buying even a cheap honda/toyota with the right hardware.

@routine8 2 года назад

Probably need to calibrate your Tesla's cameras

@reynoldcracker02 7 месяцев назад

8:28 That is why drivers need to pay attention to the road even with this stuff.

@alduswong 2 года назад

I believe the product is great.

@stevenanderson9660 2 года назад

Competition will drive these prices down to nearly nothing. 10000 for something that doesn’t work yet are you kidding me. Tesla is still at level 2 , level 5 with government approval is a decade away. All these cars will be ready for the scrap yard by then.

@daviddeleon2822 2 года назад

Where can I get the open pilot software for Toyotas

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

Look it up on forums, it's easy

@Smashachu День назад

So far... Really only seems useful for highway. Ill give it another 2-3 years.

@101amuro 2 года назад

So is the comma 2 a bad purchase?

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

Yes

@prius675 2 года назад

Just wanted to make corrections. 12:27 it cut the torque. That is due it poorly lateral tune. Toyota tss2 can achieve way higher torque. 12:27 looks like Honda torque. It hit the max limit because of the bad pi values

@wheel95 2 года назад

would you know if any of the forks permit the necessary torque? or is this against the fw mods

@LawpickingLocksmith 2 года назад

Still trying to find a car in Australia that is compatible!

@erasmobellumat3973 2 месяца назад

Corolla 20-23 if you have a Camera on it.

@routine8 2 года назад

You don't have to turn the wheel to let the Tesla know you are paying attention. Try lighly squeezing the wheel.

@BrianDoig 2 года назад

Teslas don't have any kind of wheel pressure sensor. It's a torque sensor on wheel angle. You do have to turn the wheel, or adjust the scroll wheels.

@fitybux4664 Год назад

Cargo cult actions by Tesla owners. 😆

@paatasiriia8911 Год назад

Where can I see tests for safety from radio waves, due to which the autopilot is oriented?☠️💀☠️

@Roshkin 2 года назад

Have you tried comparing Tesla FSD to Comma e2e_long?

@mikejonson5675 3 дня назад

But your comma ai is portable to any car practically

@SunnyOst 2 года назад

So OpenPilot is just a cruise control? If all it does is keep you in the lane and maintain speed Not sure what the comparison here is since fsd is much more than that

@FukU2222 2 года назад

Loooool, cringe… it’s basically enhancing crappy OE “lane keeping” (paint-bouncing/dancing-in-lane) that manufactures have in all cars now. The point is you can make a crappy ‘lane keep assist’ system into a decent self driving cruise control. FSD isn’t even ‘fsd’ compared to openpilot when compared to how much you have to touch the wheel

@FukU2222 2 года назад

Not sure why you would buy a cringe Tesla and get this cringe tech package when you can get literally any vehicle made within the last 5-7 years and get this unit for a fraction of the cost

@SunnyOst 2 года назад

@@FukU2222 I think you managed to watch the video wrong. Openpilot is the one you have to fully control except for straight roads, FSD drives itself everywhere, takes turns by itself, vertakes cars etc etc. Holding the wheel is a safety feature so you don't play games on your phone(because on FSD you can, unlike on openpilots laneassist thingy)

@MrBen580 2 года назад

@@SunnyOst you must be blind lol

@alexbowden7524 2 года назад

wrong

@timthomas2861 2 года назад

At less the Tesla Stops at Stop signs Op just knows that there is a stop sign but fuck it I'll keep on going?

@beggerking Год назад

Can you compare free way driving? Local driving is really negligible as it's usually short distanced.

@lethaldarkness115 2 года назад

Honestly the roads confuse the computer because we make stupid road designs

@YoutubeChannel-my6sw 2 года назад

Welp its $12,000 now (1/23/22)

@fitybux4664 Год назад

$15,000 now. 😆

@jasons7044 2 года назад

It's 3k now? What happened to $1100

@jimbob4456 2 года назад

It is $2199 and $2799 depending on how much memory you want in it. Either one requires a $200 cable

@FukU2222 2 года назад

Old hardware discontinued - Comma 3 is the current model I think. New hardware, new features, new tech, new capabilities

@fitybux4664 Год назад

$1.5k now.

@DigitalNomadOnFIRE Год назад

Los Tres Commas

@getstuk87 2 года назад

I am pretty underwhelmed with Tesla's progress in 10 years of FSD software development. I'm NOT saying it's easy by any means but I wish someone else like Waymo would have entered the consumer FSD market using their unique approach with LIDAR. It's far smarter from all the videos I've seen. The tesla is so unsure of itself and easily confused. Not confidence building.

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

And teslas charges $12K WTF LMFAO Openpilot is 2k and competes with teslas standard autopilot which does way less and is meant for highways

@CYAnomo Год назад

@@roboticvenom1935 autopilot is included though and doesn't cost anything extra.

@fitybux4664 Год назад

Tesla: Overpromise, underdeliver. Openpilot: Same promise, same deliver. (It's open source, you can just RTFS and see that it works.)

@ccengineer5902 2 года назад

Tesla would also prefer to not require a hand on the wheel, but NHTSA's practically crawled up their butt.

@Dhejdjskd 11 месяцев назад

Both seem a pain to deal with. No way the Tesla version is worth 10k.

@bigdougscommentary5719 2 года назад

Consumer reports start screaming if Tesla let you take your hands off the wheel. Has CR reviewed OpenPilot?

@911aaron 2 года назад

Yes they have. They ranked openpilot over autopilot overall

@pia31415 2 года назад

Comma and OP rank number One in CR reports

@Joe_Brig 2 года назад

Consumer reports use to be important. Not so much now.

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

@@Joe_Brig huh??

@youtuberpov 2 года назад

Hope do another one once fsd beta change to v11.

@myronv4390 2 года назад

As a professional driver myself for the past 20 years I am not a fan of FSD. That said I do enjoy it on long distance road trips. Driving on Ontario highways is my job, as you may or may not know highway 401 is the busiest highway in North America and there is a crash on it on average 1 every few hours from simple bumper taps to fatalities. One thing I find with autopilot is after you get comfortable using it you tend to not be as alert as you should be. I think FSD is a great idea for many drivers as I see many many bad drivers on the road every single day. It will eventually make things better and safer on the road but that I think is still at least 10 or more years away. I love my Tesla but I have one without autopilot a 2014 Tesla model S 90 and it's a great car but I'm glad I have to drive it. Its very enjoyable to drive. The retro fit autopilot for other cars is a great idea and a good price for what it is. Thank you for the video it was nice to see how others are advancing with this technology.

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

Yeah autopilot is just lane centering and adaptive cruise control, which is on most higher end cars today and even $29k Hyundais(highway drive assist) Openpilot adds more then teslas autopilot, is the BEST on highway(better then autopilot, consumer reports has shown this, it's not meant for city streets). And only costs $2K

@viivcreations9161 Год назад

comma will win because toyota will always make better reliable vehicles than tesla

@fitybux4664 Год назад

Scotty Kilmer tells me that a Toyota Celica will outlive time and space itself. 😁 😆

@genkidama7385 2 года назад

jumping from the iss without eva suit looks safer than this

@DigitalNomadOnFIRE Год назад

Do an update with 10.69

@marc0443 2 года назад

Openpilot has a long long way to go.

@FukU2222 2 года назад

Hah! At least it’s not actively attempting to cut people off

@officialyasir 2 года назад

For the love of God, to anyone making fsd videos, please turn off voice prompts for turn by turn navigation. No one enjoys listening to gps lady interrupt your conversation.

@FloridaMark1611 11 месяцев назад

Toyota all the way!

@takinittotheheatandthestreet Год назад

This seems like too much work. You might as well drive yourself 😂

@cedrichatchy1494 Год назад

With tesla the driver always let all contrôle , but comma the driver are stress and always take the control the différence is total even all. On coma they never take same road for let the car can turn at 90 degree We see here they never take the same road and the stresed driver always take the control

@reggieoverton121 2 года назад

I am sorry, but I thought you were going to really do a comparison. When you compare you should use the best driver for both. You could of have a section for new users experience. The fact the guy said you will see more disenagements due to the fact we are both new at driving the others cars and software. Need a redo!!!

@MotorbikesandMemes 2 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r55NVsJUyPM.html

@A_Box 2 года назад

Really need a short version for those who don't have the patience to sit through all of it.

@FukU2222 2 года назад

Cringe, take yer AD(H)D meds and pay attention if you really think you care

@rachelkarengreen99 2 года назад

Totally different. FSD is an all encompassing self driving system, openpilot is just a slightly smoother adaptive cruise control/lane keep assist.

@FukU2222 2 года назад

Cringe, fsd is the title of some software, that is in beta. Openpilot is an open source pilot for every vehicle, simple as m8

@rachelkarengreen99 2 года назад

@@FukU2222 cringe

@Naultarous 2 года назад

You can not buy FSD for $10k. You can pay for a Beta / Alpha of a hopefully eventually working FSD. That lie needs to stop being said. That money is an investment in the future with no real end date.

@vinnylamoureux1187 2 года назад

After 9 minutes and 13 seconds, I have concluded the Open Source is a pain in the ass at this point in its development. Call me when they have something substantial.

@911aaron 2 года назад

Watch the whole video before making conclusions. Open source is fantastic in a long road/highway setting. It’s trash in city. FSD is fantastic in long road/highway setting and very meh in city driving. If your main purpose for auto assistance driving is for long highway commutes then both are fantastic systems. If looking for something more holistic then yes FSD is better

@pia31415 2 года назад

Lol, people jumping to conclusions without even watching the video

@roboticvenom1935 Год назад

@@911aaron and FSD requires $50K cars and is a $12K option Openpilot does NOT