unless youre really rich dont get any of these (except for the herman miller). get an office chair that cost 300 and you'll be set for a really long time. gaming chairs are only really to look good but its not really comfortable for really long hours. these are all pretty bad picks in my opinion. sorry if it sounds like I'm hating I just really dislike people getting really bad recommendations
I mean a lot of people prefer looks over comfort. because majority of people play games less than 15hours per week so they don’t really care about ergonomic. That is why gaming chair is so popular.
@@ryu5810 they dont prefer they just dont know. you just think that all chairs work the same so they gravitate towards the cool looking one (they don't look good but that's besides the point haha).
One of the most important things, has to be durability, if I spend a good amount of money on a chair, id expect it to last for a good years without the piston starting to fail etc.
I actually did a talk about this about a year ago looking at advantages/disadvantages of gaming chairs with prices in mind (from the perspective of a physical therapist) and it's incredible how much marketing really influences the prices of these! Thanks for the video and keep up the great work!
Interesting gaming chair comparative video Marcus, the one aspect you forgot to mention regarding the Herman Miller Embody chair is that it has a 12-year warranty on all parts and that they will send a technician to your home to fix the chair if you encounter a problem.
Have the normal Embody and it is an amazing chair. I had really bad back aches in my midrange office chair that was fine for a few hours, but there is a reason chairs are rated at hours. Spend a 10 hour work day in a chair and you’ll know the difference. The Embody simply is in a completely different level from these rest. And if you do actually take the plunge it comes with a hefty twelve year warranty for that hefty price.
Hi PC Centric, thanks for another entertaining and informative video. The thing about Herman Miller is it will last forever. There's a huge used market and readily available service parts. I picked up a used Aeron that was 20 years old for $20 USD and a replacement piston for about the same. RU-vid has plenty of repair videos for the DIYer. So yeah, list price for a new one is steep but if it's the last chair you'll ever buy then it probably saves you money in the long run.
Hey PC Centric, I just want to tell you that you're videos are genuinely the best out of all the channels I know that upload this type of videos and are REALLY helpful to where I really can't thank you enough. If you actually see this comment I want you to realize how good of a youtuber you are and how helpful and entertaining your videos are, and your amazing personality is the cherry on top. Thank you so much for making all of our days brighter with each upload! :D
Really if you wanted to use the Herman miller properly all you need is a standing desk so you can raise it or unless you want to do it 100% correct were your eye level should be at the twords the top or slightly above your monitor the arm rest would set over the desk. The desk is the problem not the chair. Also you can address the warranties like Nobel chair with a 2yr and HM with 12yr 100% covered.
I got my first gaming chair in 2021 and it’s a $120 GTRACING chair and it’s nice looking and looks brand new still but it’s so uncomfortable can’t wait to upgrade in the near future.
origin $399 micro center 5 year no questions walk it back in and pick a new one warranty... solved also im 5'11" ish 260 and narrow chairs are very hard to find for me and this seat is dope
For any Aussies out there the CANTERBURY office chair from Amart Furniture is a really good choice. It is currently priced at $469 but I got it for about $300 on sale.
I own and have used an Embody for 8 years, the other chairs are a joke pointless same as the cheapest chair's available. The cost of Herman Miller chairs is high, but what price do you put on your health, and yes it is 10 times better than the Noble chair. Nobile chairs and alike are all just copy and paste versions of each other made in the same Chinese factories. In the USA, the cost of the Embody would pay for itself in one operation for your back. Using a chair on the basis of how it feels is the wrong thinking, it should be how it impacts on your health
good stuff as always Marcus. I actually hate arm rests - I like the freedom of not having them. I think for office work etc they could be fine, but for gaming my arms are way too active to use them as a rest!!
Thanks for the information as I'm looking for a new chair myself. One thing that's important to me is that I work from home so the chair I need is not just for gaming for a couple of hours a day, I'll be sitting in it for 7-8 hours daily, so I need long term comfort and the ability for it to hold up over time with a lot of use. Had Herman Miller chairs at my old office job so I know that they are good for a full day's work.
Best tech youtuber. Informative, knowledgeable and funny - and yes I include the 10M+ subscriber channels in that. Hot topic for me as i just ordered a chair and it arrives tomorrow. Ended up going for a mesh office chair so hopefully it fits the bill.
The issue you have with the Herman Miller - that the arms don't go back far enough - this is exactly the issue that I have with my chairs at work! It's very frustrating, and probably affects us due to our smaller builds.
Great vid but no secret lab chair!? Have to say had my secret lab for years inbuilt lumbar support as well as plenty of other awesome bits. For those in £350 range they are awesome and super comfy
Well considering that high-end chairs like herman miller will typically last wayyy longer than their 12-year warranty (I've seen HM Aerons being almost 30 years old!!!), I think the high price for them is definitely justified. Just calculate the per-year cost of these chairs and you'll find out that it's actually not a bad deal. If you spend a lot of time sitting at your desk, getting a good-quality ergonomic chair is definitely a much-needed investment for your back and health.
@@Alex-tu5vu Well, then save. I think most ppl with a decent paying job can afford to spend $1k to $2k, right? It's not like it's buying a car or a house. And considering that ppl can spend almost $1k on a new phone and they typically change their phones every 2 to 3 years, surely spending that much money on a chair like this is doable, right? I'm NOT justifying that everyone should spend $1k+ on a chair. I'm just trying to change ppl's perspective on expensive ergonomic chairs coz most ppl would just look at these chairs and think "why would anyone ever spend that much money on a chair???", when u actually think about it, it makes complete sense.
@@dylanloo9856 If HMs customer support wouldnt suck that much Id agree. But receiving a broken chair and having to email back and forth for two months before getting my money back really turned me away from the brand.
@@Waldherz Well, I have no experience with HM's customer support. But I wouldn't expect even a super reputable brand like HM themselves to be perfect. Not sure what happened in your case, but it definitely doesn't sound acceptable.
I have a very inexpensive chair and I felt the same way about my armrest being too far forward. What I did was put the right armrest and on the left side, and the left arm rest on the right side so that they'd be further back. Maybe that's possible with that chair.
14:08 You can either buy furniture legs to raise your table top, so your Embody can slide under the desk just like you like it, or buy a sit and stand desk
I think you can't judge a chair until you've used it for months. Would be interesting to see you do the Secret Labs chair. The problem with gaming chairs for me is that they are not made for thick built guys. (Thick - not obese.) If you have thick thighs you struggle to sit comfy on the base of the gaming chair. It pushes your legs too close together. Secondly they make you curve your shoulders forward, if your shoulders are broad.
Id love to have someone around when i need help with my PC lol,, On another note, this day and age we living in right now, 1000+ for chair is mad, Who ever got one, Hope you enjoy it
I've always wanted to build a PC but they are just so expensive and I can't afford to make one to game on PC instead. Do you do any PC giveaways at all? Love you content keep it up
If I'm not mistaken, you don't have to sit inproperly in the Embody. In your prefered position, you have your elbows touching the front part of the armrests. What you need is to move your monitor/setup better, if you feel that you want to be closer. There is absolutelly no need to have your table almost touching your belly.
I had a Corsair T1 for years and was really happy with it, when it came time to replace i got an Anda seat demon pro, id never heard of them before but im glad to say its a nice big comfy chair.
I have an embody and i too would prefer if The armrest could go a bit further back. I Solved it with a desk with an arched shaped cutout. That gave me just enhough change for me to rest my elbows White still sitting straight and fully supported.
I'm currently using a Boulies. I imagine it's very similar to the Noble as I was going to go for that one. I really like it so far, for the money. Good value. Like you though I find the arm rests don't go back far enough!! It's ok enough when I am sat up straight using the PC though but when you lean back a bit for more joypad gaming that's when it's noticable. Though you don't really need arm support then so it's not too bad. I would love to try those Logitech/Herman Miller chairs but far too expensive!
Secret Labs?, got an Evo 2023 and it's the best chair ive ever sat in, literally fall asleep in it with good posture lol. Also, similar price to the Noble. Note watched most of your videos and you've really helped my PC Build as well as great watch :) P.S. I think Secret Labs are currently ahead of Noble in design etc. (magnetic head memory foam pill), the adjustments you can make with your chair, website, and choice).
easy to solve for the armrest problem of embody , JUST BUY A ARMREST PAD ! since the pad is soft, you hosuld able to insert the front of the pad under the table.
Same goes for crappy gaming headsets…just buy some good music headphones and a podcast mic…got tired of going through expensive headsets every couple years 😮
Good video, would have been good to have someone with a different body type as you to give contrasting opinions. For example I'm 6, 6in and a heavy guy. How would someone with a build like that cope?
Try the new Andaseat Kaiser 3. I'm 6'1 and 250lbs, and this is a throne of a chair, and the only one that feels like it isn't going to buckle and break under my weight.
I recently bought me a Herman Miller embody which I wanted for years but couldn't afford it. But now that I own one I can tell you it should be at least 600 bucks cheaper. I guess your paying for the name
I don't know if this question is going to be answered but if I buy a Ryzen 54500 what GPU should I use that's not as expensive and at that is everything else fair game i just started getting into gaming pc's
I need to buy a chair, one that works for both gaming and work. Struggling to decide on what to buy. I'm surprised you didnt look into the secret lab chairs.
Don't waste your money on a gaming chair. Buy a quality used office chair. Steel case, Ergohuman, Herman Miller etc. I got one for £200, cleaned up nicely and spares available. Much, much better and will last years.
13:30 ... can't believe you are complaining about that. Drop the rests down a little, so they sneak under the desk. Just like everyone else with desk chairs does. You end up with your elbows slightly lower than your wrists, but that's the nature of the game. Once you get use to it, you never think twice. Have said it before, you should get that amplifier off the carpet. I bet the manual says you should not put it on carpet. You'll also get fluff in it and cause components to overheat, with a fire risk. You should think of active speakers like Dynaudio Focus if you want good quality without an amplifier. (KEF LS50 Wireless II as another example.) I think you should go all in and get some active speakers with analogue RCA inputs. Then you can add a Chord Qutest as your DAC.
I think a regular office chair would be sufficient for most people but have you considered: secretlab chairs let me be an even bigger nerd by showing off the assassin's creed chair.
A huge problem I have with that Herman Miller is the same as yours but for different reasons. For me its because the armrests have little to adjustment whatsoever and then you come across *"INSERT* *NO* *NAME* *BRAND* *FROM* *CHINA"* and they have all this 4D movement adjustments for under £200. It just frustrates me/ I want a chair like the Herman Miller Embody BUT with actually fully adjustable armrests not just a slight up and down adjustment
I think your videos are brilliant and ever since I got interested in pc gaming I have been watching your videos. Do you know any good stores that you can get components for a cheaper price because I’m finding it really hard to get good components for under £600 total. Anyway I hope you have a nice day
Do you mind me asking how tall you are? I’m 190cm, so quite tall and I’m also quite heavy, so I’m wondering if the fixed headrest in the 3rd chair would work for me or not
Hello Mr. PC Centric... I just saw another review where the could adjust the armrest in closer to the body? Isn't this exactly what you need???? The adjustment function is in and out, and kind of makes the armrest narrow or wider against the body. In your review you only demonstrated hightness adjustment. Now it can be a pain to adjust narrow wide because it requires quite some force and can be a challenge to hit the exactly "notch" you want ! But google it and try it out! And even better- tell me your result! ;) cheers
I much prefer mesh-back chairs - I find gaming chairs - atleast the ones I've seen - never have a mesh back, without it I feel I get way too warm over time plus I like that mesh is usually a little stretchy so you can rest your entire back on it without feeling like you're sitting against a wall. I've always gone for mesh-back office chairs over gaming chairs personally. I would like to try a Herman Miller one however it's way too overpriced for what it is in my opinion.
the Herman Miller on the Official Site the Logitech X Embody isn't $1800 maybe in the US because with shipping and Handling FedEx ($200) +Tax ($200) is $2,200 and the Steelcase Amia is Better and is less than $800 have the same 12yr warranty
I got a new gaming PC I am installing windows 10 I am stuck on the this will take several minutes screen please help me It has been 10 hours and it hasn’t changed what should I do
I just found the channel and I am liking the videos. Only thing that bugged me was your environment comments. Why worry about a leather chair and a cardboard box being bad for the environment, when the manufacturing of just one computer most likely fast surpasses then both in environmental impact? Seems a bit silly to me. Just my two cents.
