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$2000 Starforge Pre-Built Gaming PC Review: Horizon II Ultra Benchmarks 

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@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 9 месяцев назад
We cut a few small things / thoughts for time, but that's where the website comes in! We'll be converting this to an article within the next week or two and adding those extra pieces there. Will let you all know in HW News once it's up. Get the LIMITED 2023 Disappointment Shirt in Cotton: store.gamersnexus.net/products/disappointment-pc-2023-cotton Or in Heather Charcoal! store.gamersnexus.net/products/disappointment-pc-2023-heather These are IN STOCK & SHIPPING NOW and sell out very fast every year, so if you want one, order soon! Learn about the origins that pre-date Starforge in our Artesian Collapse video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L2xMi7inB28.html Pre-built reviews playlist: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wZC1PEe-bdM.html
@KazukiFuse99
@KazukiFuse99 9 месяцев назад
hello
@VIK_1903
@VIK_1903 9 месяцев назад
I MISSED THEEEEEEEESE!!!!!!!!!
@VIK_1903
@VIK_1903 9 месяцев назад
There's a flash frame at 00:25
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 9 месяцев назад
@@VIK_1903 haha, just keeping you on your toes!
@Spenczar1
@Spenczar1 9 месяцев назад
Will it include a deep dive into the psychology of a group of people that worked this hard to make a phallus their logo?
@dricera
@dricera 9 месяцев назад
All the streamer background aside, I'm really glad to see those artesian survivors find this avenue under Starforge to continue working on what they're passionate about. Not everyone gets a similar chance after a fallout like that
@paulsd9255
@paulsd9255 9 месяцев назад
So basically it's Artesian but with significantly better PR, showing that they actually had good bones to begin with? Because this is pretty dang good stuff out of them.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 9 месяцев назад
@@paulsd9255 Well, with one key change: The CEO. The former Artesian CEO was not only bad for PR, but also for process. Time will tell how Starforge handles here, but certainly that is a large impact at a company-wide level where they now have more dedicated people for process control (which should maintain a better quality overall, in theory).
@jorge69696
@jorge69696 9 месяцев назад
What they are passionate about? Who the hell is passionate about building PCs all day long, every day?
@HowieDune
@HowieDune 9 месяцев назад
​@@jorge69696just because you aren't passionate about it doesn't mean no one can find joy in it
@djmerlin2
@djmerlin2 9 месяцев назад
@@jorge69696 know lots of ppl that love doing this every day.
@TechTimeWithEric
@TechTimeWithEric 9 месяцев назад
Hearing Steve say “that’s well done” is a lot like hearing Lock Picking Lawyer say “this is a lock I would use”.
@LanceThumping
@LanceThumping 9 месяцев назад
Has LPL ever actually said that? I've looked in the past but it's not easy to find.
@Gisar101
@Gisar101 9 месяцев назад
@@LanceThumping yes, I've heard him saying that about a lock, but sadly I forgot which video that was
@LanceThumping
@LanceThumping 9 месяцев назад
@@Gisar101 Damn. Would've been good to have in my back pocket next time I was in the market.
@bengrogan9710
@bengrogan9710 9 месяцев назад
​@LanceThumping if memory serves it was an abus brand lock of some type
@ratlingzombie8705
@ratlingzombie8705 9 месяцев назад
​@@LanceThumping he likes some ABUS locks
@bluein_
@bluein_ 9 месяцев назад
Theory: people who coincidentally share the same name and surname as Steve will never, ever have a prebuilt order fail on them.
@elcazador3349
@elcazador3349 9 месяцев назад
Thanks, Steve!
@adreanmarantz2103
@adreanmarantz2103 9 месяцев назад
Steve: "I think the takeaway from all this is-- use my name and/or 'GN' when ordering your pre-built"
@ChrispyNut
@ChrispyNut 9 месяцев назад
Maybe. To respond with more seriousness than I perceive the comment to intend.... This is going back 25 years, but I worked for a tiny system builder (in returns) and only 1 of the three staff in there rally gave much a crap at all about computers ... though that was the Ops manager, so it's possible with today's workflow, he'd notice it. However no one else in the company really knew computer stuff (and, as I was the repair guy, I know that for a fact with the kind of work I had to do on their machines / to help them).
@Ikxi
@Ikxi 9 месяцев назад
could also make a custom email maybe even domain for that
@futuza
@futuza 9 месяцев назад
Time to start ordering all my parts under the name "Burke, Steve".
@falxonPSN
@falxonPSN 9 месяцев назад
The streamer voice analysis and the sarcasm related to it is top tier. It honestly took me 30 seconds for my brain to catch up to what was happening in that segment
@dillonvillon
@dillonvillon 9 месяцев назад
I walked away and came back to that… I was so lost haha
@sipher3516
@sipher3516 9 месяцев назад
I was waiting for Steve to mention the Retro Encabulator they had added to the testing setup lol. Missed opportunity imo, I hear those are the bast cabulators around.
@raphaelscholz795
@raphaelscholz795 9 месяцев назад
I was reading something while this video was playing besides and i just heard..Sinatra and had to rewind back to understand what i just missed. xD
@scottied2003
@scottied2003 9 месяцев назад
"We wanted to show respect, as he appeared to be their leader." 🤣 😂😂
@prome666
@prome666 9 месяцев назад
assmongo
@Varmint260
@Varmint260 9 месяцев назад
Always make sure the standoffs are torqued to a higher value than the motherboard screws! I come across this issue a lot at work (Freightliner dealer). If there is a threaded component installed in another threaded component, the most accessible one should always be torqued to a lower value so it breaks loose first. Not a big deal in a headlamp standoff, but a huge pain in the rear if it's a fuel line fitting at the back of the engine compartment!
@myuzu_
@myuzu_ 9 месяцев назад
Or even better, have defined torque specifications and use torque-limiting screwdrivers for everything. This coming from aerospace QA :^)
@Varmint260
@Varmint260 9 месяцев назад
@@myuzu_ You're absolutely right, proper defined torque specs that are actually followed is the Way (tm). On the other hand... properly installing a motherboard in a case shouldn't be rocket appliances!
@KenS1267
@KenS1267 9 месяцев назад
@@Varmint260 I build PC's as a side gig. I can easily enough get such a screwdriver. If it would make shipping a PC reliably easier I'd do it. I have had to replace entire PC's over a standoff breaking lose in shipping.
@RayneAngelus
@RayneAngelus 9 месяцев назад
@@Vayate That... wouldn't actually help much. Because the act of screwing into them... would unscrew them...
@thebigint-hw1on
@thebigint-hw1on 8 месяцев назад
I always do it to a lower value as I am secretly paid to do so by a company we are in competition with
@j4ck3t
@j4ck3t 9 месяцев назад
Tip for Starforge assembly line : You need an electric screwdriver that torques to 5nm. When it reaches the torque value, it stops. This means that the employee just needs to wait for the screwdriver to stop and can use another hand to place the next screw. Efficient AND extra guaranteed quality!
@PhilfreezeCH
@PhilfreezeCH 9 месяцев назад
@@MindBlowerWTFyour employees are gonna be way happier with a electric one though
@j4ck3t
@j4ck3t 9 месяцев назад
@@MindBlowerWTF kinda like, are you going to screw in 300 screws everyday by hand? I can tell you from experience, that gets very tiresome real quick. Better to help your employees a bit and besides they are not expensive at all :)
@notsam498
@notsam498 9 месяцев назад
Yep, the goal is to make compliance easier than non-compliance. Electric screw drivers take away any advantage to non-compliance. The wera still requires effort for proper use.
@Skobeloff...
@Skobeloff... 9 месяцев назад
Is there also an electric plastic film peeler they can use?
@senseofpermanence
@senseofpermanence 9 месяцев назад
I would actually love to know which screwdrivers can do this, tried to find some but no luck
@smarouchoc7300
@smarouchoc7300 9 месяцев назад
Steve - "I don't wanna become tech support." Also Steve - spends time when he's on a shoot at Microcenter helping random people pick their systems. Be like Steve :)
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 9 месяцев назад
hahaha, but that's something predictable! A pre-built needing tech support can happen at any moment! I love helping out at places like Micro Center. Really fun for us!
@smarouchoc7300
@smarouchoc7300 9 месяцев назад
@@GamersNexus oh, I get it. Totally. It's why I'd rather build, or teach someone to build, a PC if I know them, rather than making a "recommendation". Either way I'm the first line of tech support, I'd rather know they have good stuff 🤣
@00wheelie00
@00wheelie00 9 месяцев назад
​@@smarouchoc7300 so recognizable!
@helphelphelphelp6145
@helphelphelphelp6145 9 месяцев назад
@@GamersNexus what a good dude , stay blessed Steve ❤
@zedboiii
@zedboiii 9 месяцев назад
which video?
@Invhytas
@Invhytas 9 месяцев назад
I think if I were an SI and GN gave me this review I'd be pretty happy about it. Few things to improve on the building side, but overall solid stuff.
@nedyahyakcam
@nedyahyakcam 9 месяцев назад
Even got the better than Walmart award. Which is about 8x better than "better than dell'
@bellowick
@bellowick 9 месяцев назад
@@nedyahyakcam being better than dell isn't much of an achievement though, is it? It's kinda like saying you can run up the stairs faster than a paraplegic 💀
@WowCreativeUsername
@WowCreativeUsername 9 месяцев назад
​@@nedyahyakcamBeing better than Dell is like saying "I remembered to breathe today" is an achievement.
@Skobeloff...
@Skobeloff... 9 месяцев назад
Yes, and no. As Steve mentioned, people buy pre-builts expecting them to be right, that is part of the excessive profit margin. The loose screws and the plastic film are bad, even though other things like the cable management looked good. That case looked like trash too, which is always a big issue with pre-builts, they are often built for profit margins and use very average parts. This pc should have been air cooled too, the liquid cooler is pointless bling. Definitely seen worse pre-builts on this channel though.
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 9 месяцев назад
@@bellowick These are standard ATX PCs so even if they shipped a box of parts it would be better than Dell. Decent pre-built are what we need.
@mursejoyy
@mursejoyy 9 месяцев назад
The dedication it takes to build that test chamber is next level. I love coming to this channel for the facts on system hardware. Thank you for continuing to be a truly excellent PC hardware outlet.
@clairefey1934
@clairefey1934 9 месяцев назад
Only GN provides such top notch review methodology, like using a bilateral time cube to cancel out the cartesian coordinate system.
@songerph
@songerph 9 месяцев назад
Lmao. I was like what😅
@zarathoestranl
@zarathoestranl 9 месяцев назад
The front of the case is designed to absorb the crash energy of a frontal crash or when a pedestrian is hit. It is a feature, not a bug!
@pillebrett
@pillebrett 9 месяцев назад
This case have a better crimple zone than the cybertruck.
@neruneri
@neruneri 9 месяцев назад
@@pillebrett Well yeah, just about anything has a better crumple zone than the cybertruck. Mainly because the Cybertruck doesn't have one at all.
@hollowknight9158
@hollowknight9158 9 месяцев назад
Since it's a streamer PC I imagine it absorbs the kicks or punches during the RAGE moments. This should be tested.
@afelias
@afelias 9 месяцев назад
It's a blowaway panel in case your PC is under attack by a Leclerc main battle tank
@madProgenitorDeity
@madProgenitorDeity 9 месяцев назад
The case is a Corsair 4000F-minus
@DavidWB147
@DavidWB147 9 месяцев назад
The noise plots are very interesting. I wonder if there are more permanent arbitrary reference sounds that can be placed unobtrusively on the graphs so we can get some sense of what is happening. Something like the peak loudness of a desk fan at the same 1-metre distance, or even a comparison with a console like a PS5.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 9 месяцев назад
I like that idea. We'll try to figure something out that's common enough to be helpful.
@privacyvalued4134
@privacyvalued4134 9 месяцев назад
@@GamersNexus LTT/LMG show an "ideal" target curve overlay for their speaker/headphone tests. For this, the best overlay would be a curve showing average human tolerances across the noise spectrum - that is, the upper limit of what the average person will tolerate/not generally take notice of. The ideal sound from a computer system is obviously no sound at all. Fanless systems have their place/use but we probably won't ever see them in a gaming computer system without some major fundamental shift in CPU/GPU design (e.g. moving away from silicon to diamond/organic chips).
@AlexandruJalea
@AlexandruJalea 9 месяцев назад
​@@GamersNexus please do. Interesting though. Building control requirements are a min 45db airborne test between party wall partitions, with the UK average exceeding 54sb on average. The reason I'm saying this is because the missus can hear my Asus A15 laptop taking off when gaming, from 2 rooms across!!! I have a 8l pc that's only a few dB less than the laptop, but at full tilt it does not even pass through the first wall. Obviously frequency is important etc, but this is a sort of comparison that for me and some of my mates would make the cut.
@pavels4923
@pavels4923 9 месяцев назад
@@GamersNexus This may be confusing though - you are plotting dB and that is not linear scale, but people may easily miss that (where 3dB up is basically twice the power and 10dB up is perceived as 2x louder by humans)
@sql64
@sql64 9 месяцев назад
@@GamersNexus you could also throw in a short clip of the pc running or a note at a specific frequency for example at around 18:20
@TheGamerUnknown
@TheGamerUnknown 9 месяцев назад
I'm glad you're willing to do no-nonsense prebuilt reviews. I personally will never buy one, but for a LOT of people I can understand why a prebuilt is useful. EDIT: Especially with so much attention to detail and thoroughness - noticing things many others would miss.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 9 месяцев назад
I know a ton of people who will only ever buy a prebuilt, and that's completely valid for the non-enthusiast audience. We want to help them out too!
@kulilin3104
@kulilin3104 9 месяцев назад
I've been getting overrun by friends/family that want me to "help them" build PCs lately. Which usually turns into me building it for them. I'm at the point where with my own life/family I can't find the time to assist them anymore. Seeing decent prebuilts, at good prices, is a godsend. GamersNexus doing awesome work.
@NK_X_NK
@NK_X_NK 9 месяцев назад
My last 4 computers between a “low tier and mid tier” ranking I guess, both Desktops and laptops since 2006 have all been prebuilt. Only took me 16+ years to finally do my research on how to build one and make sure everything is compatible. I never had a high end PC. My first one is gonna be my first built ever PC. Did 2 months of research before even buying my first part.
@kalashnikov1343
@kalashnikov1343 9 месяцев назад
Pre-builts are the goto option for when someone wants to gift a PC to someone else.
@kulilin3104
@kulilin3104 9 месяцев назад
@@versedi I have to completely disagree with you on that statement. They missed a few details, the thermal pad peel, tork on a few screws, and a minor scuff on the case. The positives outweigh those negatives. The cable management was absolutely top knotch. Their mark up isn't in the extreme stratosphere like Origin and Alienware. The PC was shipped with care so there was no internal damage to the system. What video where you watching?
@spladam3845
@spladam3845 9 месяцев назад
"as he appears to be their ruler, and we want to show respect for their hierarchy". That gave me a chuckle, but smart move GN, it's important to respect their customs.
@Antisober14
@Antisober14 9 месяцев назад
As a quality assurance professional myself, I'm always thoroughly impressed with the attention to detail, methods and data collection your team put into your videos. Thank you for your work!
@dakineprotoss
@dakineprotoss 8 месяцев назад
the sound room was totally overkill for their QA (imo), but I also was pretty impressed at the level of precision these guys do.
@jasonjavelin
@jasonjavelin 9 месяцев назад
My buddy got an Artesian Build right before the collapse. It was built on stream which was a neat twist and for the money he paid at the time was a pretty decent build. It’s nice to see that Starforge has a pretty high bar set even with a few hiccups it’s miles better than some of the larger SIs we’ve seen. We joke on my buddy that even though only about 1 part of the Artesian build remains it’s how he got started lol. We’ve all built and upgraded since then largely thanks to your videos. Thanks for the awesome content!
@penncovewatersewerdistrict8351
@penncovewatersewerdistrict8351 9 месяцев назад
I got an Artesian build before collapse as well. It was a nightmare, right off the bat the 3080ti was DOA. Many little, irritating problems since then.
@callmecaiti
@callmecaiti 9 месяцев назад
Always impressed by the depth and quality of your pre-build reviews. Have used them to help with steering friends and family in a good direction. Happy I'm a patron.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 9 месяцев назад
That's awesome that they're useful for recommendations! That's why we make them. Thank you for watching!
@Halokrogg
@Halokrogg 9 месяцев назад
I love you guys prebuilt reviews. Great job.
@marcmiller5139
@marcmiller5139 9 месяцев назад
I had that Deepcool case. That front panel falling off at the slightest attempt to move it irritated the hell out of me to the point I swapped to a different case. Side note on thermal pads, I bought a pair of EVGA GTX 980's to SLI in an old build ($50 each during the GPU Shortage of 2021) and tore them down to clean them up and on one of the cards, on one bank of memory, EVGA hadn't peeled the plastic off of the thermal pad during assembly.
@ryboits75
@ryboits75 9 месяцев назад
I bought one during Black Friday and they actually changed the front panel before the release of this video to include a perforation of their logo, so theres more space for airflow now, and its magnetic so you can remove it very easily with no cables attached to it
@SOWICKEDIMWUZIE
@SOWICKEDIMWUZIE 8 месяцев назад
Did your purchase feel worth it?
@ryboits75
@ryboits75 8 месяцев назад
I've been having good results with it so far. The temps get a bit high unless you adjust the voltages a bit, I turned on Intels LiteLoad to bring them down to reasonable temps with stress tests. It gets what is advertised and I haven't had issues with it so far beyond that. After this vid I checked all my screws and I didn't have any, so it might just vary between builders@@SOWICKEDIMWUZIE
@JustinKelley94
@JustinKelley94 8 месяцев назад
Any problems so far?
@ryboits75
@ryboits75 8 месяцев назад
It runs as you'd expect it to run with parts that are only about a year old. Start up time is basically non-existent cause all the apps open immediately. Games run pretty well given the 4070, but you might need a larger monitor to compensate for it since the CPU bottlenecks a bit@@JustinKelley94
@VoltUni
@VoltUni 7 месяцев назад
Which one did you get and do you like it??
@dwinterx
@dwinterx 9 месяцев назад
That sound testing chamber is amazing!
@ColonelCoffee
@ColonelCoffee 9 месяцев назад
Haven't watched the video yet but the fact alone that there is no negativity in the video title says a lot
@Ikxi
@Ikxi 9 месяцев назад
The bar is low yea, it just gotta work and at low prices it doesn't have to look pretty But also, I wish your sanity good luck with all the stupid customers you'll eventually have, the more you sell, the higher the chances will get best to think about hiring someone who will talk to them, there are some crazy people out there ​@@cardrivingdude (also like, you can't say you never did a mistake in your first couple PCs, also when a company makes them, they have to make a certain amount in a certain time, so some things will be less carefully done and the more PCs you make, the higher the chances for mistakes did you test every single PC for lose screws or missed peels, that'd be impressive)
@maxmike181
@maxmike181 9 месяцев назад
Leave it to MSI to make the "REMOVE" font worked into the design on that thermal pab. Not excusing Starforge but if that was just a big red warming it likely wouldn't have been missed.
@garguntoter
@garguntoter 9 месяцев назад
Love the clowning on OTK and Asmon in particular, can't wait for his reaction vid. As always great stuff you guys go full tilt on stuff and always enjoy the vids, have a Happy New Year.
@adeptfelix
@adeptfelix 9 месяцев назад
HP has sent me so many SSD's with coolers that had the tape still on the thermal pads. This was for their workstation systems too, not even consumer stuff.
@FandangoJon
@FandangoJon 9 месяцев назад
I think Steve is familiar with having a few screws loose. Happens to the best of us. Seriously though these kinds of vids are so important for prebuilts. If they listen to this and improve their QA process... everyone wins. It shouldn't have to be GN's job... but such is the industry. Thanks, Steve!
@jubuttib
@jubuttib 9 месяцев назад
4:31 I've seen that same feature on Corvette rear ends too! It's not the nicest thing, but for a decorative panel I don't care too much. Kinda rather it flex than dent or worse when I inevitably kick it. =)
@volvo09
@volvo09 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, the corvettes with the flat rear end have the "press and flex" feature. I remember finding that when I waxed one at a dealership.
@kyrosmike
@kyrosmike 9 месяцев назад
Clarkson made that feature famous, but the engineer said we made the car to be light not rigid there
@jubuttib
@jubuttib 9 месяцев назад
@@kyrosmike Yeah I know, it's just a fiberglass bodyshell in that specific area, nothing structural is being done by it. =)
@jubuttib
@jubuttib 9 месяцев назад
@@Navi_xoo Oh I was just talking about the flex, not the pattern, that sucks.
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 7 месяцев назад
I've worked in the PC building business for many years and built well over a thousand PC's. The machine ranged from POS terminals to massive servers and even a supercomputer with more than 400 CPU's, so I've seen just about any PC you can think of. We used to import rack server cases from a Taiwanese company and had some interesting experiences. We used to joke about one of their workers saying he was the brother of Bolo Yeung as he seamed able to wrestle those screws something awesome. The were not cross threaded or anything, just screwed in so hard we sometimes had trouble removing them. Something I started doing early was a shake test. That meant I took the completed machine that was said to be ready for delivery, raised it on straight arms turned upside down and I shock it as hard as I physically could. Any sound of anything banging around or a screw clanking or anything else and the machine was taken apart again. It was also function tested one last time to see that everything worked after the shake. This found some potentially nasty problems and forced the build quality to be pretty darned good or something would pop loose. This was extremely hard to do with something like a 40 drive storage server.... A screw scrambling inside a finished computer is depressingly common, and it can cause really expensive and totally unnecessary damage. Everything has to stay where they are installed, nothing can move during transport or reaonably normal use. So make sure those screws are staying where they are supposed to be, and do make sure that heavy graphics card is solidly mounted with hardware to keep it from bending or swaying even if the transport hits some really bad potholes.
@jackalclone1
@jackalclone1 9 месяцев назад
Would have liked to have seen a test of their customer service as well, similar to past NZXT reviews etc. For example, the peel left on the m.2 cover was a prime opportunity to contact support with (fictitious) symptoms of overheating SSD, and seeing if they were equipped to deal with that
@Skobeloff...
@Skobeloff... 9 месяцев назад
Good point, customer service would be a significant reason to pay the excess for a pre-built.
@Vashtiian
@Vashtiian 9 месяцев назад
I agree but just in case you do want to see that Linus has a recent video with starforge customer service
@Skobeloff...
@Skobeloff... 9 месяцев назад
@@Vashtiian Funny how a video about a company owned by dodgy youtubers like Assmold attracted all of these dimwit Linus fans here.
@MichaSennin
@MichaSennin 8 месяцев назад
those are not authentic. they are on the line with a big channel on youtube. they will act differently to a random Bozo buying their prebuilds. Its not a good indicator for their actual customer support, please keep that in mind. @@Vashtiian
@xpyr
@xpyr 8 месяцев назад
@@MichaSennin They don't know it's LTT calling them.
@eden1738
@eden1738 9 месяцев назад
I can't wait to see asmon's reaction to that unpeeled thermal pad. They were sooooo close to getting through the inspection with no big mistakes
@sean8998
@sean8998 9 месяцев назад
Uh, it's assmongol my friend.
@viktorianxd
@viktorianxd 9 месяцев назад
Yeah asmongool will not be too happy
@arc00ta
@arc00ta 9 месяцев назад
@@viktorianxd They had to do that on purpose but its so funny
@Stratos1988
@Stratos1988 9 месяцев назад
I can imgine, a 40 minute video incoming that starts with "and I tought Linus was overzealous"
@cipherbenchmarks
@cipherbenchmarks 9 месяцев назад
rookie mistake tbh
@io1238
@io1238 9 месяцев назад
🥰🥰That chamber has been so useful and crucial for gn, the amount of value it provides is almost unlimited, very good purchase, you can hear the pride in steve voice when he mentions it in almost every video
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 9 месяцев назад
It's been crazy useful for the upcoming cooler reviews!
@io1238
@io1238 9 месяцев назад
and those future fan tests😜@@GamersNexus
@tegneren
@tegneren 9 месяцев назад
Also a place he can go to scream out all his frustrations over bad pre-builts without scaring his employees 😅
@Speedy.V
@Speedy.V 9 месяцев назад
​@@GamersNexus Do you intend to rent it out when not in use so that you can get some more return on your investment?
@scottwatrous
@scottwatrous 9 месяцев назад
@@Speedy.V That was my thought. Like, there's no way doing even useful review work for GN that they are getting a 1/4 million dollars in extra revenue from having that equipment vs if they had a more rudimentary space. They must have a way to bring in people who need quiet room environments when they aren't using it.
@DJIronChef
@DJIronChef 9 месяцев назад
Great video so far. I hope they improve just a bit. Everything seems great overall minus that tape. If I could afford it, I'd get one, but other stuff is priority, and no real reason to upgrade my current rig. Also, that booth is clean af soon as that door opened i heard the audio shift like oooooooo! The voice analysis was hilarious
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 9 месяцев назад
The tape is good. RGB connectors come apart.
@DJIronChef
@DJIronChef 9 месяцев назад
@GamersNexus sorry I was meaning the bit that was on the SSD
@ffwast
@ffwast 9 месяцев назад
Putting the same parts together yourself would make it a lot more affordable (with no weiner logo)
@DeckDogs4Life
@DeckDogs4Life 9 месяцев назад
I am glad to hear they are doing pretty well. Hope they take this to heart and really become a great SI.
@eric7591
@eric7591 2 месяца назад
The steamer voice segment was absolutely hilarious. Well done.
@PDXCustomPCS
@PDXCustomPCS 9 месяцев назад
Small note.The MSI software installer is a setting in the MSI bios. I've seen it on many MSI boards.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, we're aware. It can be toggled off by the SI.
@ElderWillows
@ElderWillows 9 месяцев назад
Bro thinks GamersNexus doesn't know about board brand Bios.
@MenkoDany
@MenkoDany 9 месяцев назад
The streamer frequency analysis had me rolling on the floor
@alrecks619
@alrecks619 9 месяцев назад
What a way to open 2024 with a decent prebuilt.
@RabidDogma
@RabidDogma 9 месяцев назад
Glad to see that it rated (relatively) well. I watch a decent number of streams from one of the OTK people and it seems like they're not trying to overtly scam people so at the very least (and that's bare bones) that's good.
@giftig694
@giftig694 9 месяцев назад
decent?
@regularperson9801
@regularperson9801 9 месяцев назад
@@giftig694 i hope they mean the review not the PC :)
@Rspsand07
@Rspsand07 9 месяцев назад
@@RabidDogma The value is God awful. They have a 2500$ 4070 ti, 13600 KF PC on their site. You could build a 7900 XTX, 7800xD PC for significantly less.
@John-Wolfe
@John-Wolfe 9 месяцев назад
It is a decent build for a pre-built pc. No oem parts, decent cpu/gpu combo and the markup could be worse. At least it's no dell pc. After the review I would feel comfortable recommending this to friends that don't want to build pcs and I can't build one for them.
@adamjung5470
@adamjung5470 9 месяцев назад
I would buy Starforge. Especially amused by the comments recommending “attention to detail” followed by the most detailed acoustic test we’ve ever seen. Way to step up GN.
@pjstartv6798
@pjstartv6798 9 месяцев назад
Love the bottle of Snake Oil during your Merch adverts. Nice touch. Approved!
@rhyagelle
@rhyagelle 9 месяцев назад
If the extent of the issues are a few loose screws and a forgotten peel, that's actually really, really good. I mean, not the issues, but it being the only thing.
@Ikxi
@Ikxi 9 месяцев назад
better than dell
@Skobeloff...
@Skobeloff... 9 месяцев назад
Both potentially major issues though
@TheXythic
@TheXythic 9 месяцев назад
Great review, I am glad you checked thoroughly. Nice catch on the ssd peel. I hope for more pre-built video in 2024!
@tehpanda64
@tehpanda64 9 месяцев назад
I for one prefer a longer fan ramp, if it is too agressive it becomes a lot more noticeable because of how suddenly the sound occurs, even if the volume is actually low because of high quality fans or whatever. The slower the ramp the less you notice the volume increase. It is like boiling a frog slowly (not that i've ever done that, it is just a thing people say).
@MindBlowerWTF
@MindBlowerWTF 9 месяцев назад
Pretty sure everyone who had a GPU that would go constantly between 30% to 80% fan speed would agree with You. *shakes hand at MSI 2080*
@mytech6779
@mytech6779 9 месяцев назад
I've occationally had an inverted effect when setting the fan:temp slope to low. It can induce an occilation with a period of a few seconds. With the slope too low the heat rises much faster than the fan is ramping, so it quickly hits a yellow zone temp that has a much steeper slope so the fan suddenly races to catch up. But the overall heat output is not high enough to require that sustained fan speed and the temp drops too fast which resulting in a sudden crash in fan speed and the whole process starts over.
@Dropsey818
@Dropsey818 9 месяцев назад
i bet you dont like sand pusy
@williamwolcott329
@williamwolcott329 9 месяцев назад
The whole episode was great, but the subtle humor and the sound breakdown was amazing. I had to google several of those acoustic/sound terms just to understand what you were saying haha
@adieognira9709
@adieognira9709 7 месяцев назад
The part of the analyzing streamer frequency spectrum blew me off. lol thanks Steve and Team!
@pangurbanthecat4043
@pangurbanthecat4043 9 месяцев назад
Give workers checklists specific to the components. This case, these components, etc, then you get these checklists. Workers will then check off each piece until they're done. This ensures that nothing is forgotten and that things are done correctly. A large bonus would also be torque-setting capable tools - This would help ensure that things are tightened correctly.
@johnbienaszii7729
@johnbienaszii7729 9 месяцев назад
due if they need a torque wrench for this there's as problem
@alesksander
@alesksander 9 месяцев назад
@@johnbienaszii7729 read comments above about that TOPIC for explanation. Screwing 300+ screw in day gets tedious quite quickly...
@Skobeloff...
@Skobeloff... 9 месяцев назад
People check off checklists these days without checking them, and managers rarely care.
@myuzu_
@myuzu_ 9 месяцев назад
Checklists are just tools to point blame with. They won't improve a bad process.
@mytech6779
@mytech6779 9 месяцев назад
​@@myuzu_ They are good for maintaining a consistant baseline, putting the process in writing avoids misunderstandings and managers who have expectation drift with the goal of making the department numbers look better at the expence of the overall company(Field repairs, returns, liability, reputation).
@TomatePasFraiche
@TomatePasFraiche 9 месяцев назад
I was cracking up during the whole vocal power segment, well done 😂
@shawnjohn5756
@shawnjohn5756 9 месяцев назад
Hi Steve,question after watching the full video I wanted to ask why there weren't any performance charts included,the usual suite of productivity+gaming benchmarks that you perform? This is a genuine question because I found the rest of the video absolutely amazing as always with the prebuilt series but found the lack of fps in games made me feel a little empty inside? (P.S:Love your videos,thank you for being so awesome to the entire GN crew 🙏)
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 9 месяцев назад
The performance would mirror what our performance reviews present for each component individually, so we don't publish them. We do test to make sure it hits expectations though. We'd have to make cuts elsewhere in the reviews to accommodate those.
@CraigLabute
@CraigLabute 9 месяцев назад
I think the idea here is there's nothing to report unless it's far outside the expected performance of the components. I don't really want the video to tell me the 13600k in a prebuilt performs like a 13600k. This is usually a more meaningful comparison on laptops where often the "same" components are run at a variety of TDPs and power/thermal management profiles.
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 Месяц назад
I love how Steve is always dead serious but still manages to put some pure savagery passive/aggressive puns in each and every one of his videos. 😂 I love this channel ! 🥰 « *Thanks, Steve !* »
@MistyKathrine
@MistyKathrine 9 месяцев назад
3:22 That's such a good meme.
@cacheman
@cacheman 9 месяцев назад
15:16 If anything, leaving the plastic on is a feature. Now the pad will be in better shape if the user upgrades to a faster drive. It's like leaving the plastic on the couch.
@ventilate4267
@ventilate4267 9 месяцев назад
It was most likely a slip of the mind, but this is a good point too
@danieljones9937
@danieljones9937 9 месяцев назад
I was thinking the same. Although leaving some screws loose (and tightening one far too much) is more difficult to explain. But Steve saying 'this was good enough for me to actually give it to someone else' has to be a win.
@Ikxi
@Ikxi 9 месяцев назад
very entertaining also good to see that they now include the extra modular cables, in LTT's video they were missing
@Ariane-Bouchard
@Ariane-Bouchard 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review! One thing I wish you'd included would've been a more developed performance/price section. I feel like some sort of cost per frame graph where you'd compare a DIY system to various prebuilts. I feel like that, juxtaposed to a statement on quality, would be a great way to wrap things up and help people make decisions.
@Ikxi
@Ikxi 9 месяцев назад
building yourself is always cheaper even more so when you try to get some deals on used hardware when on a tighter budget you can get some pretty awesome hardware which enough patience and knowledge on where to look
@Ariane-Bouchard
@Ariane-Bouchard 9 месяцев назад
@@Ikxi of course it's always cheaper. The idea is to have a visual representation of how much cheaper it is. That could help someone who's on the fence take a decision. "Hmm, quality is good and it's only 5% more expensive. Worth it" vs "Quality is only okay and I could save 30% by doing it myself. I think I'll watch a guide and give it a try"
@shrededpudding5921
@shrededpudding5921 9 месяцев назад
17:17 anechoic silenced hvac ducts is so cool. i love the weird design solutions our industry makes necessary
@TheCoasterSerpent
@TheCoasterSerpent 9 месяцев назад
The only issue I see besides those pointed out already, is that I wouldn't put an AIO in a system with an I5 CPU. There is no reason too other than saying it has liquid cooling.
@Mr.Genesis
@Mr.Genesis 9 месяцев назад
Been waiting for a Starforge review.
@TheBazzterd
@TheBazzterd 9 месяцев назад
Seeing this, i'm glad that i build my own pc for the first time last month :D Specially with all the deals around black friday i can now say i have done well :)
@MischieviousJirachi
@MischieviousJirachi 9 месяцев назад
How easy it was it? Did it take long? I havent built mine yet
@sirmonkey1985
@sirmonkey1985 9 месяцев назад
@@MischieviousJirachi if you know how to build lego's, it's pretty much the same thing. just don't drop or stab your motherboard with a screw driver and you'll be fine. that being said Jay and Linus have build guides on their channels so definitely reference them if your worried about it.
@TheBazzterd
@TheBazzterd 9 месяцев назад
@@MischieviousJirachi Watch a couple of utube guides on how to build one step by step. Also watch for example Greg Salazars 'fixing a viewers broken pc'' helped a lot, specially for trouble shooting that i had to do. Turned out my new PSU was faulty and didnt do nothing. Thnx to series like that i could find the problem and solve it with my old psu from my prebuild lenovo. (the only thing i actually upgraded in that build a long with a gpu and my only build experience) Best tip, take ur time and be confident.
@MischieviousJirachi
@MischieviousJirachi 9 месяцев назад
@@sirmonkey1985 @thebazzterd thank yall
@Skobeloff...
@Skobeloff... 9 месяцев назад
@@MischieviousJirachi Look for build guides from decent youtubers (not trash like Linus and Jayz2braincells). Building pc's is not difficult, but it can be stressful your first time, watching build guides will also show you the best order to assemble parts, which will help you to avoid having to remove and reinstall. Just researching the parts for a build is a great way to learn about pc's. How long it takes depends on you, best to take your time on your first build. It is also handy to have a working pc nearby so you can easily look up anything you have doubts about.
@razorworks111
@razorworks111 9 месяцев назад
Great review. I appreciate the reviews on the pre-built units, even though custom build projects are more exciting. Thanks Steve
@Flying_Jorts
@Flying_Jorts 9 месяцев назад
“Angle of attack on the fan blades”. Steve’s knowledge of different sciences is pretty cool. I dig it.
@macelius
@macelius 3 месяца назад
Nice, still gonna upgrade/build my next five-to-ten year box in to my old evolving case myself, but good to see Phoenix and Starforge going strong and getting their honest constructive crits from GN. Man, that thermal tape peel not removed gotta be burnin someobody's bacon lol.
@Teksers
@Teksers 9 месяцев назад
The PP rocket company is back with almost great build quality.
@Teksers
@Teksers 9 месяцев назад
@unholydonuts oversight or not. They'll forever be know as the pp rocket company.
@secretchiley
@secretchiley 9 месяцев назад
@@Teksers Hey, it worked out. The brand recognition they've gotten from that logo is insane.
@wille84fin
@wille84fin 9 месяцев назад
Not bad. Maybe they were trying to avoid borking the screws (loose screws), but with a proper driver (and head) it shouldn't be a issue. On the other hand, that one screw (maybe issue with the case part itself) was what it was. Overall i think the quality is getting up there with the better prebuilt companies. Asmongold seems very open to take notes/constructive feedback at least, and the build quality seems to be getting better and better. Can't speak for the others because i only watch Asmon's content now and then. Not sure about the price though, always built my own PC's.
@arthurmoore9488
@arthurmoore9488 9 месяцев назад
The answer is cheap torque limiting screwdrivers and using the clutch on any half decent electric screwdriver. Of course, at that point you need a metrology person/department to calibrate everything, but it can prevent the problem from ever occurring again. Yes, "cheap" is approx $50 for an calibrated no-name screwdriver, but one RMA from a screw causing issues is going to cost more than that in shipping alone.
@Alvin853
@Alvin853 9 месяцев назад
I'm thinking electric screwdrivers that don't have a lot of torque and no hand-tightening afterwards. I was looking into cheap electric screwdrivers because I work on PCs quite often and this was the one "negative" point that almost all of them shared in reviews and what kept me away from buying one, if you need to hand-tighten and -loosen every single screw before and after using the electric screwdriver, the usefulness quickly goes out the window.
@charmolettafranquestafiestayam
@charmolettafranquestafiestayam 9 месяцев назад
@@Alvin853 luckily the electronic screwdriver has screwdriver built right into it so you can just do the screwing with the thing already in your hand and all that.
@dzonialucard
@dzonialucard 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review Steve! Great as always Also, i LOVE the asmonbald pokes
@khronno552
@khronno552 8 месяцев назад
My company recently bought 5 MSI Infinite desktop pre-builts with 4090's and 13900kf's. The first wouldn't boot no matter what I tried. The second had completely shattered glass upon arrival. The third boots into Windows 30% of the time and won't restart unless I force shutdown with the power button and turn it back on. The fourth was completely missing the CPU power cables (weren't even installed). Only the fifth one worked and we ended up returning 3 of them. You should check them out for a fun time :)
@airvine3793
@airvine3793 8 месяцев назад
Love this review format, look forward to seeing many more comparisons.
@devonmoreau
@devonmoreau 9 месяцев назад
A GN prebuilt review is like an audit by the IRS, this must be terrifying for the company to hear GN reviewed them lol!
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 9 месяцев назад
"People pay you $500 over the component price to.. just not screw up things that are essentially like Lego. And yet here we are having to commend you for only fscking up a couple of screws and forgetting to remove a thermally important sticker. We're not angry. We're just very very disappointed with the industry at large. There are other endeavours where charging 25% of the bill, for service, and getting ANYTHING wrong at all... will land you IN JAIL!"
@cosmicxchaos
@cosmicxchaos 9 месяцев назад
I had ordered through Cyberpower before years back. So I took a shot and ordered a rig from them again recently. Went for an i9-14900/4070/32gb DDR5 7200MHz. Was pretty close to the price of the one reviewed. So far I'm really happy with it.
@Crashed131963
@Crashed131963 9 месяцев назад
Not bad.
@crylune
@crylune 7 месяцев назад
Nice. Just got my 14900K recently, loving this beast of a chip, especially when under an EK Nucleus CR360 AIO.
@obhwg
@obhwg 9 месяцев назад
These videos are extremely important for those who are looking to get into PCs. Thanks for making these!
@Melchirobin
@Melchirobin 9 месяцев назад
19:27 I loved how you leaned into the meme and loved watching the reaction stream.
@kBitre
@kBitre 9 месяцев назад
Just wanted to point out at 30:30 the cooler is an AIO or CLC water cooler not a DIY water cooler
@Darkshadow7827
@Darkshadow7827 9 месяцев назад
Excellent video. I've had to have a friend help me build my PC twice now. It's a bit of a pain in the ass for someone who doesn't do it often or is overly cautious like myself. None-the-less, I would have liked to have Steve also review the logo. I'm curious as to whether he thinks the logo is phallic shaped and if it is, if it detracts from the overall build.
@swells1
@swells1 9 месяцев назад
2024 off to a great start. First the disappointment build, and now another prebuilt -- my two favorite kinds of GN videos. Thanks Steve!
@-eMpTy-
@-eMpTy- 9 месяцев назад
Charts are great, but also playing back the actual recorded audio would be a good idea in my book. While it might be hard to convey the loudness/volume, it can give the viewer an idea of the sound characteristics. Maybe building a standardized PC using high quality noctua fans would be good as the baseline. In addition, something like a PS5 would be nice for comparison (in both the charts and audio playback) as it gives the viewer a real world reference to compare it to.
@Dartoras
@Dartoras 9 месяцев назад
at an other end i wanna stop watching videos and be there at the making
@johnnypopstar
@johnnypopstar 9 месяцев назад
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut GN has no idea what kind of speakers this noise is going to be played out of, so that kinda hampers the aim of being super scientific with it. You'd need to provide a bunch of "reference noises" too so anyone trying to assess what this per-PC noise sounded like would have something _hopefully_ familiar they'd be able to pipe out of their speakers too.
@spiritofjon
@spiritofjon 9 месяцев назад
I think the "I'm going to give this one to someone" is the best metric. That really says so much.
@familhagaudir8561
@familhagaudir8561 2 месяца назад
30:40 With that logo, some costumers might be surprised it dosen't come loaded with naughty videos.
@Mr.CellophaneHart
@Mr.CellophaneHart 9 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for continuing to uphold and model to other's that it is possible to run a profitable, HIGH quality business while also having ethic's and behaving in a moral fashion. Hat's off to you all for your dedication to truth and common sense.
@Frenchtoastedfruitloops
@Frenchtoastedfruitloops 9 месяцев назад
Very clean cable management is about the only reason I’d ever get a prebuilt. So good to see they understand that😂
@Syst3m04
@Syst3m04 9 месяцев назад
So I’ve built 3, and might build my 4th, but strongly considering prebuilt. The main reason is the price isn’t that much difference with GPU’s so expensive right now. I went to new egg and part for part built a starforge pc and it was more to build it than just buy it.
@NeoDaOne
@NeoDaOne 9 месяцев назад
these Prebuilds are truly informative. I have been on the fence if I should just get a prebuild or not, though would only get one if i could upgrade it later. Keep up the great work as always.
@steakburger101
@steakburger101 9 месяцев назад
Watch the secret shopper series for Linus tech tips. They did the same but will all the major pc built companies.
@Skobeloff...
@Skobeloff... 9 месяцев назад
*Don't "watch the secret shopper series for Linus tech tips." They are trashier than even the youtubers who own Starforge.
@DD-th5tu
@DD-th5tu 9 месяцев назад
The unbridled streamer shade at the accoustics section was such a wonderful surprise gift in this video. 😄
@DaftFader
@DaftFader 9 месяцев назад
Love the anechoic chaimber! I've always wanted one to record sounds in. You could start doing audio review testing for like microphones and headsets etc if you wanted.
@jonogrimmer6013
@jonogrimmer6013 9 месяцев назад
How anyone at starforge didn’t realise the logo closely resembles a cock rocket is beyond me!
@Eins3467
@Eins3467 9 месяцев назад
It's a running gag in Asmon's community too 😂
@ChezMclegend
@ChezMclegend 9 месяцев назад
One of the many reasons I bought one.
@reset1101
@reset1101 9 месяцев назад
As always, another very informative and thorough review from tech Jesus. I wonder why no SI, as far as I know, uses Arctic Liquid Freezer II AIOs on their systems. They even have versions with RGB fans now! I know the thickness of the radiator might be an issue for some cases, but there are plenty of them where they fit.
@UnderTheIceburg
@UnderTheIceburg 9 месяцев назад
For an SI, choices on any given component are largely limited to what sort of contract you can negotiate. Besides simple cost and functionality, an SI needs to consider things like failure rates, manufacturer support in the cases of failure, lead times, and guarantees on a certain number of units.
@NuSpirit_
@NuSpirit_ 9 месяцев назад
2:40 part was (probably) the best 😆
@joshuagorecki4743
@joshuagorecki4743 9 месяцев назад
19:26 is the next best part.
@mrosebro
@mrosebro 9 месяцев назад
3:21 that approx 1 second "reminder" actually did remind me of ALL the drama, i some how had blocked that out of my memory banks.
@crylune
@crylune 7 месяцев назад
"blocked that out of my memory banks" Brilliant
@zachalou3073
@zachalou3073 3 месяца назад
I literally just bought a Core series horizon II elite on a really good sale. As someone who has 0 interest to build my own PC, I'm excited to receive this one. I'll have my screwdriver handy.
@andrewvirtue5048
@andrewvirtue5048 9 месяцев назад
Being so industry notorius you can't even have products shipped to the state without being sus.
@JJFX-
@JJFX- 9 месяцев назад
Sounds like if anyone decides to order a pre-built they should make friends with someone from North Carolina to order it.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 9 месяцев назад
hahahaha
@JETWTF
@JETWTF 9 месяцев назад
22:52 The fan speed settings are what they should be from a pre-built. They are selling to customers that could be in Arizona to Maine, if the system was setup for Maine or other cooler environments then it will overheat in places like Arizona and overheating is more important than noise control.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 9 месяцев назад
That isn't how it works. Higher ambient means higher overall temperature, so it will just keep following the curve. It is relative. The TARGET temperature is the CPU or GPU temperature, not ambient. If ambient is +5C, you hit your target 5C sooner and the fan climbs. This happens regardless of your AC or where you live and at the same point in all environments. That means in ALL environments, there is room to adjust down on RPM.
@Carlos-cu4ms
@Carlos-cu4ms 9 месяцев назад
I have the same DeepCool case but with the front panel without holes. That version of the case is super solid and sturdy.
@opoeto88
@opoeto88 9 месяцев назад
thanks, I built my own pc last week and viola, totally forgot about setting EXPO in BIOS for my RAM until I saw asmon seeing your review.
@furl_w
@furl_w 9 месяцев назад
Would be funny to confirm if any companies have every prebuilt shipped to NC getting extra quality control.
@sirmonkey1985
@sirmonkey1985 9 месяцев назад
your expectations are too high for these companies.. unless it's something that's a major issue and requires changes in house they just pull a newegg with fake promises for a few weeks until people forget about it with no actual follow-through.
@casperryborg4869
@casperryborg4869 9 месяцев назад
He literally said that they used a middle man in the process, maybe watch the freaking video?
@TinMan445
@TinMan445 9 месяцев назад
Well aside from one builder whose dad never taught him to use a screw driver, it seems like Starforge is really cementing themselves as a pre-built leader in the industry. I think they would have caught the tape on the thermal plate in testing if it actually effected performance.
@jootpepet
@jootpepet 9 месяцев назад
Dont forget the other builder whose dad never taught him to peel off the sticker from the hardware
@younousyoutoube
@younousyoutoube 6 месяцев назад
holy shit how did I live until now before discovering this channel, this is next level stuff and very high attention to detail, this channel and digital foundy are all I need now lmao
@Sargeras77
@Sargeras77 8 месяцев назад
19:45 and the rest of that segment is giving strong retro encabulator vibes. two thumbs up
@babeleebabelee2278
@babeleebabelee2278 5 месяцев назад
3 months later... where ist the Starforge Company visit? ;-)
@mimireich
@mimireich 9 месяцев назад
That case was the same case I use in my PC right now (White Version). Great way to start 2024 with Prebuild and hopefully NEW DISAPPOINTMENT 2024 BUILD !!!!!
@BudgieandAviaryBirds
@BudgieandAviaryBirds 9 месяцев назад
why hope for crap stuff?
@mimireich
@mimireich 9 месяцев назад
@@BudgieandAviaryBirds the Disappointment Build 2023 was the blast. So it will be new dawn for opening new trends and new techs that cause disappointment later mid 2024 or Q4 2024.
@toddjohnson5692
@toddjohnson5692 9 месяцев назад
I looked at Starforge, but wanted a 7800X3D and they didn't have it. I ended up getting an AVGPC which is a brand I'd never heard of. But the parts were standard and they had the CPU I wanted. It was very well packaged with a stack of foam holding the graphics card and expanded foam bag for the rest. Worked out of the box and I haven't had any issues with it. (Only had it a month). Temps seem fine. I got mine from Newegg. It was in a white case and was $1749. If I wanted a black case I would have needed to spend $200 more and get it direct from AVGPC. Odd, but oh well. Guessing Newegg had sold out of the black ones.
@toddjohnson5692
@toddjohnson5692 9 месяцев назад
@@Navi_xoo I priced it out and the pre-built was $100 cheaper than if I bought the parts, and some parts (the 7800X3D) were not available to buy individually. I've built every other PC I've ever used. And, they didn't penny pinch. Every item is a quality name brand part.
@Synthetikgreed
@Synthetikgreed 9 месяцев назад
Maybe you could implement some sort of rating system at the very end when going over overall impressions. Like score them on 'Attention to Detail' 1-5 for screw torque, Cable Management etc. , Noise levels 1-5, Cooling 1-5, Shipping 1-5, Price Effectiveness 1-5, and Overall 1-5. Just a thought I had, could even use icons like a screw for the detail, sound waves for noise, a thermometer for cooling and so on.
@TheOmaJohn
@TheOmaJohn 5 месяцев назад
Dude your deadpan humor is just over the top on this one.
@stolz_ar
@stolz_ar 9 месяцев назад
The Asmongold-GamersNexus story arc has begun. 2024 is gonna be fun.
@Stratos1988
@Stratos1988 9 месяцев назад
This is a very odd way of writing AssMongool
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