$250 VS $5000 Ice Fishing Sonar

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I love ice fishing gear. In this video I give a side by side comparison on the ice of one of the most expensive and one of the least expensive options for ice fishing electronics. Is Livescope worth the $5000 price tag? You can be the judge for yourself. Thanks for watching!
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$250 Sonar - Deeper Pro+ : amzn.to/36fk5LT
$5000 Sonar -
Livescope (Garmin Echo Map 106sv + Livescope module/transducer): amzn.to/369fGJw
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Livescope (Garmin Echo Map 106sv + Livescope module/transducer): amzn.to/369fGJw
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@JaySiemens 3 года назад

YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN HEARD. I just purchased a Garmin Striker 4. Review video coming soon...

@blackbeltxx113 3 года назад

lol I saw the vid and was about to come down to the comments to say that you should try that.

@olivierbeaulieu6316 3 года назад

could you do a hummingbird settings for summer? clayton did a good one for winter but i can't find a good one for summer.... i know their's a bunch on youtube but they're not so good

@cierandoherty5099 3 года назад

Thoughts on ICE HELIX 5 G2 , just purchased as my first unit but haven’t used yet

@dalbert4991 3 года назад

I use a Garmin striker 4 on my canoe love it.

@Lafingfatman 3 года назад

I have used one for 4 years now. In open water I will have it along in the boat. When I find a rock pile or transition in a spot that I know can be fished through the ice i will mark it. Come ice in I now have waypoints to walk or drive to. I dont even have the ice transdeucer. The suction cup can be removed and the angle of the deucer adjusted so it hangs parallel to bottom. Works far better than it should. The flasher function also works well but you need to have a jigging rap or heavy jig tied on, something like a slender spoon is too small of a profile to see. Have not been able to justify replacing this unit with a dedicated flasher. Just to versatile

@TaroMurata 3 года назад

$5000-$250 = $4750 left over for “Perch Powder”. Jimmy can I get a ton?

@briancunningham2842 3 года назад

Is that what Canadians call cocaine 🤔 😳 😏 🤣

@TaroMurata 3 года назад

I like $250. More chicken money.

@briancunningham2842 3 года назад

Cock-a -doodle doo 🐔 lmao taro you need to post more videos bro you been slackin!!

@markgolden1418 3 года назад

More money for the chicken box lottery!!!

@Mindmatt05 3 года назад

Swiss chalet 🤤🤤

@masondick4851 3 года назад

Swiss chalet my guy

@RobertKearl-Outdoor-Adventures 3 года назад

That's a lot of fried chicken and cold beer

@TimeOnTheLake 3 года назад

If you're going to get a $250 sonar, get the GARMIN STRIKER 4. Inexpensive, works great for ice fish and also can be used for open water fishing!

@connortruman3906 3 года назад

I agree with this, I have it. Its incredible for the cost. You can use in your boat or on the ice.

@TimeOnTheLake 3 года назад

@@connortruman3906 ice ducer is nice to add to it but not 100% necessary

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Yes!

@kevinpatana8962 3 года назад

Hard to sell/list houses when these videos come on... Great job..

@pinkadam8989 3 года назад

I'll offer you USD $05.00 for your finest house!

@Datenkabel 3 года назад

@grantowens6619 3 года назад

Thanks for being public with your Faith and your positive content It makes a difference!

@mattokeefe691 3 года назад

For $250 it’s better than I expected. Live scope is incredible. I wish

@ZERO0HEROisFTW 3 года назад

Just used my livescope for the first time this past weekend. Seeing a lake trout come onto the screen and swim 40 ft in about 3 seconds then swirl around my bait before crushing it was incredible.

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Yeah so fun!

@jerryesau1311 3 года назад

You nailed it Jay, I love my livescope for finding fish and reacting to their behaviour with the presentation. But the biggest unintended result was learning so much about fish behaviour. Makes me a better fisherman even if I am using the Helix.

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Absolutely!

@Dennisgoyette 3 года назад

I try the same thing with a conventional flasher, but it's def much harder when you're not sure how they're fully reacting. I wish I had the money for something like this, or even rental for a day!

@shxvk9298 3 года назад

@@JaySiemens For fishing at Lockport is 20 pound line and a 30 pound leader strong enough? And how long should the leader be?

@TheSilver9r Год назад

Good review! Just wondering if depth of the ice affects the sonar ball. I have one and never thought to use it as I thought the ice thickness would restrict it's ability to pick up anything that wasn't directly below the hole. Good for depth marking if anything.

@Fishing_With_Ivan 3 года назад

12:12 what did you call that fish? Btw Love watching your vids man. I live in California so ice fishing here lasts for about 3 months if we’re lucky and have a good winter. I’ve owned 2 pro plus and currently own and use a deeper chirp and I love it! I’m currently on the hunt for lake trout this ice fishing season. Do you have any tips and tricks that you use to catch lake trout? Keep cranking out the vids! Always excited when I get a notification about a new vid from you! :)

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Whitefish or Tullibee. Thanks so much for watching!

@lingslinger2786 3 года назад

Just look at it ! Would you look at this , mmmmm look at that .... usually when I look at something , I say would you look at this , look at that !! Lol.

@hellabearded7742 3 года назад

Psh,

@David-pk5vf 3 года назад

I love you videos Jay! Every time I watch one I learn something new! :)

@wadewinch4372 3 года назад

Have u ever tried zooming in on the bottom with the garmin, gets a little fuzzy but easier to see. Pros/cons?

@matttig 3 года назад

I love content like this 👍so informative. Thanks Jay keep it coming!

@shxvk9298 3 года назад

@Jay Siemens For fishing at Lockport is 20 pound line and a 30 pound leader good? And how long should my leader be?

@Tyler_County_King90 3 года назад

Jay posted a new video.....taking my coffee break be back in 15. I had no idea about those tiny sonar balls. Would be amazing for those back country spec lakes when your packing light. Thanks Jay!

@wholenebaleba Год назад

This thing is frickin awesome! Ounce I turned this unit on an saw all the gizmos it has, I said sweet baby Jesus, honey get out the frying pan cuz this things going to catch us a whole lot of good eatin!!!

@jeanlaferriere1091 3 года назад

Good day....you also need to try the RayMarine Dragonfly.... 🤔🤔🤔

@rickjames2618 Год назад

The flasher mode on the ball unit was surprisingly good.

@JohnHeurung Год назад

Jay, I noticed your in forward mode in this video, why use that vs Downard view since your not moving around????

@rosieone5670 7 месяцев назад

30 years as a sonar and depth sounder tech, easier and less hassle to go fishing at Costco or St. Lawrence Market.

@ddphotoadventure2657 3 года назад

Does anyone remember when graphs required paper? Now look how technology is

@sowhatitsjustme Год назад

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

@tonyholland7140 Год назад

I don't know if the sonar ball has the ability in the app to turn up the chart speed, but that would help with fish recognition.

@bradysikora5316 3 года назад

I’m not paying attention to school just so I can watch this

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

The video will be here after school!!

@thetasmaniandevil5011 2 года назад

Does the sonar ball work for both Samsung and iPhones?

@richardgallant6175 3 года назад

Jay, why do you have to post new videos when I'm in the middle of home schooling my kid 🤣🤣🤣

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

It’s an education video! Watch with your kid 😂😂

@richardgallant6175 3 года назад

@@JaySiemens oh he loves watching them with me. 10am can't get here fast enough

@406life 2 года назад

Good video lol, I had to laugh when you pulled out the deeper, I have livescope but I still love my deeper.

@gnibs1492 3 года назад

I bought a Garmin LiveScope All Season bundle using a 93 SVUHD for $2599 brand new delivered to my door. Everything I need to ice fish with LiveScope. 1 click and I am fishing in my boat using side imaging and down imaging in the spring. I L-O-V-E my LiveScope for both summer and winter fishing!

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Thats awesome!

@stefanodigaetano1627 2 года назад

... seems you used the old version of the application

@ballistic350 3 года назад

If u fish alot the livescope is a must...

@gabetrejo3296 3 года назад

Great channel! The problem I have with quite a bit of the content is locating fish! You all make it seem so easy because you have Pay-To-Play mapping, Panoptix, underwater cams, etc.. believe you me... If I could, I would have Panoptix! Just not at all feasible! You should go out on an expedition with bait, a rod, and a bucket and show us poor boys how to do it the hard way!!!

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

I have a few videos doing this! Going out with a hook and line. Check them out!

@207ice2woods Год назад

Getting catch and cook for this year!!!

@letsgofishingboys8756 9 месяцев назад

You’re amazing ! Nice video!

@LuRanOutdoors 3 года назад

The deeper is going up in price after this video! Hahaha

@LuRanOutdoors 3 года назад

@@Skank_Hunt42 you don't think comparing an item with something that cost 20 times the amount will bring up it's value? Of course the livescope is better. But is it 20 times better? Of its 20 times better, what percentage of people actually has 5k laying around to buy it?

@LuRanOutdoors 3 года назад

@@Skank_Hunt42 that's all based on personal opinion and preference. I have access to a traditional unit and the lives cope. And frankly speaking I catch the same amount of fish with both devices. Sure the live scope is a lot more fun to use. However, like Jay said you almost need a dedicated sled for it. And it makes hole hopping a lot more difficult. Where as with deeper you can easily move around if you don't have fish below you. Why would I spent 20 times the money if i like to hole hop and fish in hard to get to places? And once again, maybe you have unlimited amount of money, but 5k is not a easy purchase for majority of people based on the average income in USA and Canada. That's not mentioning a lot of fishermen are in school still with no income. All I'm trying to say is that deeper is a good cheap option for people, not saying it's better than lives cope.

@LuRanOutdoors 3 года назад

@@Skank_Hunt42 well you just watched a video with a person who owns a deeper. And in the video he showed that it works fairly good. Personally I would get the Garmin sticker 4 over the deeper but I'm not one to talk bad about something that I don't personally own. Or have "never seen" anyone use.

@LuRanOutdoors 3 года назад

@@Skank_Hunt42 dude... last time I checked you commented on my initial comment.

@dawsonlutz2971 3 года назад

@@Skank_Hunt42 imagine having to brag about your bank account to strangers on the internet to feel better 😂.

@creativelifeskills 3 года назад

Supperbb broww

@alexhuot2010 3 года назад

"It's cold and this is when it get hard" as he's in a sweatshirt🤣. Love your videos

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Haha yeah fair enough

@adkbeau 3 года назад

Where are you at? We’re Rouses Point NY Lake Champlain no ones driving on ice yet !!!

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

NW Ontario

@marksay56 3 года назад

Must be nice, 40 in michagain😔

@erichsenft2235 3 года назад

Jay have you worked with the Lowrance Hook 2 rev 7 ? Seems like the sonar band is wider and a sort of a poor mans livescope. Love your video just wondering what you thought... :)

@HuyFishin 3 года назад

not sure if prices will go down LOL apple tech has competition but it seems like iphones keep increasing in cost haha i hope it goes down in cost.

@ka0zoz 3 года назад

I have the Deeper chirp version. I don't think you mentioned the ability to record your sessions to your phone and then uploading it to deepers web site to review all the data it captures. I have a Vexilar and a Deeper and to be honest the history graph on the Deeper gives you just a little bit more information to see the movement of the fish. Add a cheaper underwater camera and a Deeper and you are long way ahead.

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Good suggestion! Thanks!

@wynnedel8097 2 года назад

Love your fishing videos, always lots of information. What Livescope do you have? Thanks for sharing.

@WowomgCool 3 года назад

Great video Jay, you should invite Aaron sometimes, I miss you two being together alot!

@Beamer866 3 года назад

See how jay liked pretty much every comment but this one. That’s a NO. But I do wish jay would focus more on fishing

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

He's always invited!

@michaelapps2823 Год назад

I found one on Amazon for $159 for deeper

@canufish4961 3 года назад

Do you just use the LiveScope for ice fishing? If so, what type of fish finder do you use the most when fishing open water?

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Nope! My livescope moves with me to my boat.

@bryantitus6634 3 года назад

For $240 US you can buy the Garmin Striker 4 portable kit with their ice transducer. The regular portable kit with a tradition ducer for open water use (that works under the ice too in a pinch) is on sale right now for $180. And I'd say it's superior to anything else under $300. Be interested to see what you think.

@lukesbaits7085 3 года назад

i love your Videos!!!!!!!keep it up

@differentfins 3 года назад

I use a Marcum M5 and I am impressed with the Deeper Ball to be honest... and its 1/3 the price! Graph sonar is cool but not $5000 cool lol. I love the multispecies action!

@J_flics 3 года назад

I feel like the striker 4 from garmin is a better option, 190 us for flasher and 2d with chirp. That nice..

@eversky1365 3 года назад

I have to say, the garmin striker 4 is FAR superior to that bobber junk.

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Just giving price options

@aydengruninger9785 3 года назад

I find it really cool the difference in walleye sizes like our walleye out at pigeon lake alberta are a minimum 40cm and like 3-5 pounds.. with very big shoulders

@kimlongdota 3 года назад

Hey guys do you think it’s worth getting livescope for the kayak or maybe wait a little longer for a better price even used ?

@David-pk5vf 3 года назад

75,000 subs!!!!! Woohoo Jay!! Congrats!

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Thanks!!

@jeffhaayema466 3 года назад

Great video , but seriously anyone who spends 5 grand on a sonar for ice fishing needs to seek help because they have an addiction

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Or a career

@nashelleson3815 3 года назад

Great videos keep them up

@ysgamez7403 3 года назад

As soon as that notification comes ‘ click’

@Detroit3Pistons 3 года назад

Can you run a split screen on the Garmin with a Flasher view so don’t have to deal with the 8” of bottom you lose?

@rippinglipsadventures 3 года назад

Great video. Thanks for the information. I'm still sporting my $20 garage-sale flasher that works and was always wondering if I'd be good to jump into Panoptix. I'll probably wait longer.

@Razedot 3 года назад

I’m a noob to your work. What lake are you on all the time? That thing is the size of a city.

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Usually Lake of the Woods!

@dalbert4991 3 года назад

I wonder if my boss has any sonar interest... probably not...will have to wait, ugh.

@dakotagreg1177 2 года назад

It would be cool to compare the older vintage sonars, like the Lowrance green box. It goes on ebay for about 40$.

@kurtandjaxoutdoorshow8476 3 года назад

got a garmin striker and navionics on my phone and its works!

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Great!

@hjgh7937 18 дней назад

Good work

@RushVoorhisOutdoors 3 года назад

it was 60 degress in Montana last week...not the best winter lol

@Bertaaaa 2 года назад

Wow congratulations on the catch and cook. I buy that stuff anytime I see it on the shelf, can never have too much around !

@Slayingslabsyt 3 года назад

Hi jay going ice fishing for the second time for big gills any tips trying to get my first fish through the ice

@330Maniac 3 года назад

I LIKE this!!!

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Glad to hear it!

@MidWestRiverRat Год назад

Thank you

@AlIsUpOutdoors 3 года назад

I have a deep smart sonar chirp. I used it all last ice season and on my kayak over the spring and summer. This year I bought a Garmin striker plus 4 which was actually cheaper than the deeper but IMO it absolutely out performs it by far. I am curious how you got the flasher setting next to the 2D traditional with the A-Scope.

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Good to know! Thanks!

@cory6554 3 года назад

Thought for sure it'd be a garmin striker 4 in the comparison - a very solid unit for entry level

@williamjohnston1731 3 года назад

I think the 2d deep ball worked better I could c the fish on the 2d over the big sonar screen other than one fish but for the price and weight to carry it out it’s not worth the extra in my eyes but is pretty cool tec tho can’t wait to c where they go with it next

@rj420nels 3 года назад

Nice livscope setup man! Now I want the bigger screen 🤣🤣

@michiganmike3268 3 года назад

Comment 200 😎

@sc1742 3 года назад

5000 dollars to get a sonar to get perch... nah no thanks 🤣

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Just showing options

@ramstein1871 2 года назад

I have had the deeper sonar ball for 4 years now I believe and I love it just for the convenience of how portable it really is. Though I have been looking at buying something new since I do alot of lake fishing now that I have a boat.

@NgayialMania 3 года назад

Wow,, nice🍻 I like fishing

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

me too!

@pinkadam8989 3 года назад

Ill give the panoptix 5 years to perfect and lower the price

@jackhendrickson2279 3 года назад

Buy a new phone and just have it sit there and you will catch fish

@fishlovme 3 года назад

Pretty cool vid. I'd definitely purchase a livescope if I could afford it.....back to my single days I would've definitely purchased something like that! But 12 years later I'd have difficulty affording even 250 dollars for a new sonar. Luckily my Vexilar FL-18 is in it's 18th season and still works great. I did upgrade my underwater camera last year, but I had to sell a lot of my old equipment to afford one.

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

18th season! Thats awesome!

@BrandonMcCrackan 3 года назад

I use a Garmin Striker 4 for ice fishing. Picked up on sale for $95. Originally got it for my kayak but have since used it for ice fishing. Battery lasts all weekend on a 8ah, it's light weight, It has a 16 degree cone, traditional graph or flasher style. The only downside is it takes a little technique to get the transducer to aim correctly but still does the trick. For 80 bucks you can get the ice transducer and that issue would be solved. Would love to see your thoughts in another flasher breakdown/comparison.

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Loved the striker 4. Excellent option for its price point!

@walleye204 3 года назад

Love watching all your vids but to compare a deeper with helix or garmin and Lowrance units even the cheaper models I don't think is fair. Regardless of that though, anyone who can afford the livescope or hide the expense from the significant other who may not like fishing..... Do It lol.

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Haha luckily Sam likes watching "fish TV"

@dtcsoutdoors8489 3 года назад

How's a going Jay?

@matthewcarr5846 3 года назад

Is there a website where we can buy bait your using?

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Fish Frostbite

@matthewkamm5946 3 года назад

Is that an Old Town Canoe sweatshirt?

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Yup!

@jessesmith-pinkham7236 3 года назад

There really isn’t a comparison, would love a live scope, but not feasible for the average fishermen. Maybe in 5 years! Til then the helix is fun to play with! Keep up the great content!

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Definitely! Thank you!

@marcialp93 3 года назад

Thanks for putting out this video. I currently run the Deeper as well as an older lowrance ice unit.. with the Deeper I run it on my 8-in tablet. Or should I say both of my older kids run the electronics and I'm usually out just dead sticking.. if anything I probably will purchase a Helix next for myself and let let the kids just have the other two. Although it's like they own them already because I never get to use them when I take them with me..🤣

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Haha that's the way it goes!

@dandeyo1185 3 года назад

Good video. Liked the side by side comparison.

@chuylion 3 года назад

Hey Jay hi all the way from Utah awesome video i started ice fishing about 10 years ago I started with a hammer 🔨 and a rod moved up to a used humminbird for 100 bucks moved up to a helix 7 si now im using a panoptix livescope and it is awesome and now i just need to stop buying gear 😁😁

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

That is awesome!

@B1GE2 3 года назад

You guys had it easy, we had it were we don’t have any ice yet still 😂

@01KINGKENG 3 года назад

I have both. The deeper, marcum lx6 and also the garmin livescope. I use both of them also. I don’t fish as much as I used too but having the garmin is a game changer. You can finally see the fish and everything. Even if you’re just fishing for fun it’s nice to have if you can afford it. The best part about having the livescope is you can use it both in hard and open water which makes it worth it also.

@alauclair3697 3 года назад

Love your fishing vids new and old. I also love that you’re from Manitoba like me, super clutch for learning!

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Thats great to hear! Cheers

@Otownbassin 3 года назад

Garmin striker 4 is the best entry level one hands down

@eliedube 3 года назад

Totally accurate. I challenge you to fish without electronic's just to see you struggle... ahaha. Great channel. Thank you!

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

It’s going to happen!

@joshmcivor4026 3 года назад

Thanks for the vids man.. the first vid i watched where was when you went to Brochet, MB with Uncut... Which is pretty cool cause that's my mother's hometown.. i know how you felt from traveling from thompson all the way to brochet lol... from truck to boat.. definitely takes a toll on the body..but its worth it being out on reindeer lake

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

Such a good memory!

@tommylam2324 3 года назад

Jay man, you have to list your link to "Catch and Cook" on the RU-vid description too!!!!!! ppl to last to go search the link somewhere else too

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

For sure! Thanks!

@noahmatthews5013 3 года назад

Jay either FaceTimes friends quite a bit on the ice, or ALL of his friends are just good luck. I love how every time he posts a video he's got a buddy on the phone. Thats awesome!

@JaySiemens 3 года назад

I like the company when the fishing slows down!