The only effects that were used in this recording was compressor and limiter to increase the volume. Otherwise, the sound is the natural and unequalized sound of the Oud from my Zoom Handy Recorder. I'll probably do a follow up video to discuss this, but hearing these two Ouds digitally recorded is a completely different experience from playing these two Ouds in person. My teacher Hossein Behroozinia said that some Ouds actually sound better in the studio than when playing it live and vice versa. For example, the Miras Lute Oud sounds less robust in this recording, and it feels and sounds more robust in person. It's the loudest Oud I have. However, the Zeryab Oud sounds really good in this recording, but it lacks depth playing it in person. Fascinating.
I don't know why I prefer the cheap oud 1 which sounds more natural or "humane" while the expensive oud 2 has longer delay and more clarity it's like it has a built-in sound processing inside.
I definitely can tell the difference, the Oud 1 sounds a bit buzzier compared to the Oud 2 which sounds really clean and I guessed correctly, although the difference is not super significant for my noob ear, not like 2500 $ difference I think hahaha. The difference is not as big as my two Ouds one is 60$ Oud, which sounds horrible , and 250$ Egyptian Oud which sounds decent for my ear. Btw, I somehow still admire the Miraslute Oud, it looks has quite glossy finish yet it still sounds very good and resonant, really awesome 👌
Zeryabs seem to have really distinctive sounding nylon strings, especially g, so with that alone it was clear that 1 was the Zeryab. Sounded really nice though, not too far off from the more expensive one.
I prefer the richness and depth of #1, although there's less clarity to the pitch. #2 has a much cleaner sound, but it's missing some of the resonances.
Would like to hear more recordings but it was obvious to me that oud 2 was significantly brighter and more projecting, a bit more 'expensive' sounding. It don't necessarily mean 'better' as tone is in the ear of the beholder of course. I only have a cheap oud and your videos help me a lot man, thanks.
@OudforGuitarists .. nice vid job..do you own one or both..? i do not hear but a small difference .. so small like strings.. different small.. other commi say similarly.. maybe like.. but how he matched wood on those ribs.. i was looking at the oudtar by Thierry.. in my opinion it is a roundback guitar because of bridge placement..but to move it down to the oud or lute spot will make long low sound string
I wish more could be done to make it possible for people to buy directly from master oud makers in the middle east instead of going through online stores who mark up the price of ouds quite a lot compared to what you would pay if you bought the oud directly from the maker. There is an oud maker in Syria named Sabsaby who I want to buy from but I am worried that US sanctions on Syria will prevent him from shipping it to me in the US. There also Faruk Türünz, a master oud maker in Turkey who I want to buy from if I get enough money.
Yes, I feel this pain. It's a challenging business indeed for Oud builders. They are artists and craftsman and have to spend a lot of time running their business themselves. When shipping internationally the price automatically goes up too because their are costs and risks in shipping.
I'm not sure. Different makers definitely have their preferences. Older ouds tended to have slightly more narrow width at the nut than ouds made nowadays. There probably is a standard I've never paid much attention to it.
There are a lot of differences, but they do not necessarily translate into a price difference. As to the sound it would be better not to use compressors, because they act also as equalizers on the transiente. If you want to compare sound, my advice would be to record with absolutely no processing whatsoever - at the same volume, so that the power of the oud also could be assessed. Thanks for your work, though...
Oud 2 seemed more refined with less upper harshness, as a total beginner though... it would take me a while to reach a level where I could make Oud 2 sound good enough to justify the the price haha
Oud 1 has a beautiful voice, but has (what sounds like) interference between the string and the fretboard. Oud 2 is very crisp and sounds great, but it lacks the depth of voice in Oud 1. I must add though, you're playing makes them both sound like $5000 Ouds 🙂
Exacltly 2 is 3000 not the sound too much difference as 2500 dolars but the feeling is softer than 1st as much expense means for a little difference which gives too much higher feelings is about the man made it harder work and trees get more attention to ready so it needs to got a good player thats all to see the difference
@@OudforGuitarists .. nice vid job..do you own one or both..? i do not hear but a small difference .. so small like strings.. different small.. other commi say similarly.. maybe like.. but how he matched wood on those ribs.. i was looking at the oudtar by Thierry.. in my opinion it is a roundback guitar because of bridge placement..but to move it down to the oud or lute spot will make long low sound string
@@OudforGuitarists I looking for rib pattern Rib measurement For an oudtar Or an oud or a lute Oudtar is smaller(width length depth volume ) (Teardrop or eye or watermelon or oval) (Bowl or body) But are two of them.. Oud volume is bigger.. An Oud lute pattern i could modify.. Sorry the bother
Can someone please tell me whether the ouds on his page are suitable for Turkish and Greek traditional music too? Meaning turkish tuning. In other words, The Arabic ouds are similar to the turkish? If not, what are the differences? Can they support the turkish tuning just as well? If anyone can answer me, it would be more than valuable because I'm looking for an oud to play Greek music(the good old music of the Minor Asia, before the Greek genocide happened there at the beginning of the 20th century)
Hi, Any Oud that is 58.5 cm string length should be able to withstand Turkish tuning/Greek tuning provided you put a string set on for that tuning. Please check the measurements on the page.
@@OudforGuitarists So an arabic oud of 58.5 string length can serve fine the greek and turkish music, right? If its more than 58.5 length, it will probably not be able to sustain the turkish tuning because this tuning has more tension?
@@felicegreece That is correct. However, I would recommend an Oud made in Turkey that is 58.5 cm string length because the sound of Turkish ouds is likely to match the old Greek repertoire better. If you email me and tell me your budget I can recommend some ouds that are not listed on my site. I don't list all the ouds I sell on that page because too many options turn buyers away. My email is support@oudforguitarists.com
I play (long time ago) Oud finger pick.. "Try it" i need my frets A guitar can imitate (Fairly) oud.. The reverse no.. Oud can imitate (Poorly) guitar Lute is another story..
Just out of curiousity, how much is your third Oud cost? (the one with the ebony or wenge bowl - sorry, I don't actually know exactly what type of wood it's made up of, but I guessed by the colour.. Am I correct?!)
I can get the same tone out of a 300 dollar epiphone than a 3k dollar gibson. At least for one songe. After that it gets tiresome. playability is vastly diffrent. Easy playability allows you to create music on a higher level..
