$6,000 PC can't handle the heat (undervolting an i9-13900KF)  

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Haha- I absolutely knew you were going to take heat (no pun intended) for that ‘fix’ 😂😂 Good to hear it was a temporary solution until a permanent fix was implemented. Keep up with the videos my man, from one tech to another they are entertaining 👌😂

As someone without Instagram or TikTok: why not also put the long video on RU-vid?

If you put the video on the platforms with the scrolling people instead of the ones that actually select their content and hold grudges, and now everything better, thats entirely on you. :D But yea, expected that this was temporary. Just looked for the comment to confirm. :D

It’s gotta be caviar cooled

The 4090 clearly doesn't need watercooling with that humongous cooler but they could have at least but either a beefier 420mm AIO or a D15(if sold pre built it makes more sense as it is zero maintenance) or just used an amd cpu

@@vladppp9954You actually don’t know what you’re talking about my man.

@@gg2324an i9 needs an aio unfortunately

@@ZonexGThere are fan coolers for high end 13 & 14th gen processors, but they’re massive ugly bricks. So it’s still a give and take.

Underrated comment 😂

I cracked at this 😂

😂😂👏🏿

Had me gasping at work with this one 😂😂

And have 5k left

yes man

put wind cooler

Imagine overpaying $6k and ending up with a 240mm non-RGB cooler Edit: my god even the front fans are just plain black. where the hell did the 6k go in this rig?? lmao

I also don't understand why the 13900KF. If they want to game there is the 7950X3D if it's for more CPU heavy stuff they could get the Thread ripper 7960X for this money.

​@@valentinvas6454 probably someone with a lot of cash and say f it what's the most expensive CPU I can get and look what's happening the expensive CPU just got limited performance should've taken moderate amount and spend it elsewhere like the cooling system

That's one good pc builder... Shouldn't even be an option to select!

Lmao, why is it overheating! 😂😂😂

yeah .. seriously .. where do these 6k even come from .. GPU 2k (if its a 4090) .. 2k for CPU + board + RAM + SSD .. maybe another 1000 for psu case cooler and various small items .. but that is already generous .. 1k for having it build is .. well .. expensive

Money can’t fix stupid

Literal dumb decision. This Persons PC is actually garbage, I wonder what storage he has.. Maybe some HDDs as the boot drive..

EXACTLY they could have gotten some better cooling with like extra hundred or two

I literally just had a Dell XPS with an i9-9900 with a tiny aluminum block cooler. He is upgrading to a new case, cooler, PSU, and motherboard. He will have no thermal issues after it's done.

@@olandersnake i dont think laptop cpu are the same as computer cpu...

I totally wasn’t going to upgrade to a $1500 pc and keep my old 240 mm cooler..

Seriously?!?! Ikr. I have an i9 9900k but at least I’m running a deep cool assassin IV

and plasma

and bose-einstein condensate

I mean technically a liquid cooler is all 3. It transfers heat from the cold plate which is a solid then used liquid to move that heat to the radiator then fans to pass air across the radiator to cool the liquid then repeat.

@@ryancory5958I’m trying to imagine a _cooling system_ made of these🤣

Dammit, you beat me to writing bose einstien condesate ​@@ryancory5958

I dont know what you on about. Thats known from the beginning when u first turn on your pc and take a look into your bios. I have my 13900k since beginning of last year and set it to Intel default limits.

Only Intel is doing it

@@Muffll. the "intel default limits" that some mobo manufacturers are using are WAY higher than what intel actually recommends.

Just turn off multicore enhancement

Its funny but true, that CPU TDP only 100W lower than the same gen Xeon. So maybe the owner need to replace that AIO with a server-size heat sink

I'd connect a ford super duty truck radiator to the intel cpu

​@@superspies32 its true, because 5/6 gen civics have very shitty radiators. They are very very thin. Like one fingernail lenght thin. Solution, buy 100$ aftermarket 3 core radiators, those can handle even serious horsepower.(500-700hp)

It’s our little secret 🤫

​@@SalemTechsperts I have a question do you check your customers personal photos videos account password credit card/debit card number etc. Do you even play their games ?

@@Ahnaf_Abid That's some weirdo stuff man. The customer is trusting you to their device, if you violate their trust you're not a good person and you risk having your entire reputation and business ruined. I do exactly what I'm told and look at what I need to.

​@@SalemTechsperts ok looks like you are nice dude

If you have a problem with your pc and the parts are not just released there was someone in the past with the some problem and he posted the solution somewhere on the internet. This saved me from ever going to any of the many greatest technician of the world.

Lack of common senses is a crime

The worst PC build company to ever live ngl i will personally make a pc by myself ain't trusting none

To be fair, if you're gonna drop 6 grand you could at least do the tiniest bit of research to make sure you aren't getting screwed

@@ChodyRay my guy got scammed and also it's sad that he trusted a company to make his dream pc but they didn't do their job perfectly for him

@@ChodyRay It's unfortunate because other than using too many zip ties, the PC was immaculate and very well built. Whatever made the decision for the cooling (or if it was automated they need to force this as a non-option) is the one to blame.

13900k is thermally regulated and this should never happen. Guy probably sold him a bad CPU

@@keres993 more like this video is just full of crap and misinformation.

@@keres993 on god bro, i have a 240 mm cooler and my 13900k has nver had this problem

@@keres993 These new Intels seem like they have problems.

lol 2500$ in parts, you obviously dont know how much a 4090 is

Sounds like a good idea but its gonna be more expensive due to all those shit you need to remove the condensation and all that shit.

@@parkian4245 yeah. if you say good idea than it could be achieve. good idea always a crazy idea before exist. it is not expensive to remove the condense, it is just need a proper technique.

@@parkian4245 I believe Linus did this to test the theory, there's no exchange of exhaust heat in a fridge so it actually did worse than open air

A fridge won’t be able to keep up, they for sure cannot do 600W of cooling. There’s also the problem of everything being just convection cooling.

That's an idea!

My PC for example. Except I don't even live in the same continent as the greatest technician that's ever lived. Or a decent technician at least

My Laptop with my Internet connection is like Ford F-150 with wheels from Honda Civic

atleast its undervolting and not underclocking

Laptops in general, the only real quiet laptops I ever had where ThinkPads. Every Gaming Notebook is far from quiet and more of a PS4.​@@IluminousOne-9.7.2

My old tower was the opposite, the cooler is overkill for my CPU but I'm not complaining 😁 (i5 6600k at 4.2GHz + 1st gen Noctua NH-U12S)

no tech RU-vidr will admit it but we all do it.

@@SalemTechspertscan attest to that 😂

@@SalemTechsperts As someone studying CE I can confirm i have done this so many times lol.

Every Software Developer xD

SO true

...and the motherboard will probably only recognize half of it.

Not overkill at all...

I got the idea that it can't run anything because it BSOD instantly. Your life...

That motherboard only supports 64gbs 💀

Its completely useless, even in 2024 32GB is more than enough for any game. Get 32GB of low CL 7600mhz ram and enjoy the difference.

Funny, I went to love the comment and just noticed the "Top Commenter" badge because I heart your comments more than anyone else. Looked at the name, and it was you. Hah

​​@@SalemTechsperts Thanks for pointing my attention at their username, I'm never getting that image out of my head 💀

@German_bat_testicle_collector Allein für den Namen gibt es ein like 😂

​@@SalemTechsperts he's everywhere in your videos.

I felt so bad for this customer 😭

Same it was so random 😭😭💀

Lupe needs to be featured on this channel more 💀

That shit senttt me

😂😂

😂

CPU throttled all the way to 12%-16% before it crashed. After undervolt, no throttling, no crashing, no noticeable performance hit. Once the 360mm AIO arrives, we remove undervolt and test.

@@SalemTechsperts Very strange behaviour. Normally, an undervolt shouldn't have *that* severe of an impact. Maybe if you're getting throttling down to 80-90% performance, but not down to 12-16% and bluescreening. Suddenly having full performance with an undervolt makes very little sense to me. I sense something more waiting in the bushes.

I didn't think crashes due to overheating were really possible anymore unless you had literally no cooler at all on the CPU. It would just HEAVILY underclock and have crap performance but never really crash.

@@g00bergob94Yeah exactly, that's usually the case too, this seems a bit unusual.

It's probably the memory (which I presume has XMP enabled) getting funky the moment the CPU starts throttling which triggers the BSOD. Inscrutable errors tend to be caused by overclocked high performance RAM being sensitive in my experience.

wtf hjahahaha

Underrated😂

he shouldn't spend on a 13900k actually.

@@JomarsYTYeah just get an Amd one, 7800x3d is the Cpu equivalent of what the 1080ti was for Gpus back then.

​@@gama2064 right now amd may be better in performance but stability is horrible

@@pedroburgos1688don’t forget they have better pricing

​@@pedroburgos1688yeah cause u ever run into CPU Instability. Not like you watched random yt to know that right?

When i heard 240mm of Aio i wasn't thinking it was that bad, but then i see the size of the whole pc (like 4 times the size of mine and it's just an matx) and that does not work

​@anstorner I have a 240aio with a I914900k and a 4090 and it is stays on the lower end of the operating range while playing any game with max settings. I think I literally have the AIO in the video. This goober has to be bench testing.

@@e.cforest5422 Or there is something wrong with unit itself or/and mounting. Stuff happens.

That’s what I thought, and check the customer had applied thermal paste. Maybe they already checked

Do you not see the cooler dudes running?💀 if he hadn’t removed the plastic seal it would be throttling way quicker under stress & would more than likely smell of burnt plastic.

240 is also way too small for i9. I thought plastic film too but when he said 240 mm, I knew he underpaid for cooling.

@@Wi11iam69 Probably just missed half the die with thermal paste on only part of the IHS.

yeah, in my comment I mentioned I literally just built a rig like this and it works completely fine. A 240 cooler will work fine for an i9. My homie’s rig I built idles at 29C, and maxes out under load around 45C

he's a racing fan too

😂

Lol i know right 😅😂 I laughed so hard when he said that

How is it a roast?

For $6k you could have a custom loop but I think you would probably have had to build it yourself. It amazing how quickly you spend a lot of money buying three radiators, all the fans, all the copper fittings, the water blocks, the pump, the reservoir etc. So in parts you could get your watercooled pc but the build cost and profit margin might take it above $6k for someone to do it for you. I've built a 3090 and i9900k water cooled build and spent a lot of money doing it right with waterblocks and active backplates etc. it's unreal how quick your bill goes through the roof. Now I have intel 13th gen and 4090 I just kept it simple with 360mm aio and air cooled GPU. Less fun I guess but less stress too.

@@stevenross-watt8640there is a shop in my country that sells custom loops with those specs for around 5.5-6k

3 radiators? A little over kill don't you think. You can easily cool this whole system with a single fatboi 360 radiator. @@stevenross-watt8640

​@@stevenross-watt8640You easily can get a custom loop PC for 6k. Even with the components in this PC. If you go any higher you'll get two PCs in one case, case modding or a bad deal.

@@cdbtheclaw I'm wondering where they cut corners or where they make their profit margin. Once you add up full face water blocks from EKWB, three 45mm copper radiators, D5 pump, reservoir, all the copper fittings and the rest, it's amazing how quickly you spend a lot of money. Either the company selling them has a way to get the parts cheaper or they aren't using the same parts as when you build it yourself. The limited edition waterblock and active backplate from EKWB for my 3090 FE alone cost something like £900 (let's say $1000). So I'm not trying to argue just pointing out quick a proper custom loop adds up in price.

bro i literally watched this short right before bed and thought it was a demon or sum lmao

I was so confused cuz I thought something burned into my screen but I couldn’t figure out how that woulda happened lmao

Even I have 128. It crashes 20-30 times every day due to ddr5 issues

@@glenloboI highly doubt that’s due to ddr5

​@@glenlobo turn off xmp my guy

your ram timings are probably fucked up@@glenlobo

@@glenloboit’s quite well known you gotta run 4 sticks way slower so it’s not recommended to try it really if you just have common use cases.

THE GREATEST Technician THATS EVER LIVED😭🖐🏽

The thing about the i9s is that theyre basically always going to be thermal limited. Its just a question of how much performance you can squeeze out of them before that happens.

@@penteractgaming not as much as you might imagine. The average gamer won't notice a damn difference between the I7 and I9 either. Even high end gamers won't.

@@goldenhate6649 they will in 8 years

The only way to prvent these CPU's from hitting TJMAX is either with sub-ambient cooling or a delid job, otherwise they will always thermal throttle at normal ambient temps. These CPU's are extremely fast when not thermally contstrained as Intel still holds the crown in extreme overclocking competitions. Whoever made this video likely misdiagnosed the issues as the system is likely unstable because of the the CPU's memory controller not being able to handle all 4 DIMM's being populated with 32 GB modules as DDR5 is notorious for instability beyond 2 DIMM's at even CERTIFIED speeds, and XMP is certainly out of the question.

It's all in the storage lol

ROG strix 4090 aint cheap, $2.5-2.6 grand right there depending where you buy, the rest falls into about $2.5k ish also but for that price it should be at least 3 radiator fans on the cpu, yeah something still aint right lol but that depends if you're running 4tb or 8tb nvmes lol

@@venomous $660 NEW on Ebay.

6000 checks out, mine costs 4000, and if i upgrade to the same specs, then it will cost 6000. Better qustion is why hardware has doubled in price in the last 5 years.

Technically you'd be correct, at this point in time the parts they used cost more than $6k LOL Edit: I thought they were using a different motherboard so its below 6k, but still that ain't a ridiculous upcharge

Lmao

Good idea😊😊😊😊

use a Peltier first to make sure the egg is cooking and the CPU is cooled

Almost 100 likes wtf xD

Thay even th3n instead of a better cooler they tuned the cpu down taking performance

There is no way to prevent a 13900k from overheating without full water cooling, especially with what looks to be a 4090 in the case. 13700k has a hard time staying cool with a 360 cooler, 13900 is just pure waste

Me personally, i have a piss-cooled PC but water sounds good too. ​@goldenhate6649

Theirs also talk about how you place the radiator. The water in them aren't filled up all the way, you can shake one where the metal end is woth out the heat pipes and yull hear it slosh around. They say the radiator needs to have the heat pipes below it fir optimal cooling moving the water evenly with out air getting in their

A 240 is ½ of what a 13900k needs

Yup, watch a Gamers Nexus video, definitely should be enough.

MSI afterburner can really help diagnose heating problems, monitoring software should be someone’s first grab on any fresh build. Windows needs to start including temperature data properly for users.

@@jackrabbit1704Literally just go to task manager. You don’t need a 3rd party software for anything. How tf do you think BIOS knows your temps if you need to full boot some bloatware?

I strive to be the very best

I tried to update the drivers 5 times after getting that error, didn't fix it. Apparently it's overheating, not driver issue

@@SalemTechsperts this is why you are T H E G R E A T E S T T E C H N I T I A N T H A T S E V E R L I V E D

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Cute budget pc 💀💀

Should have, but we live in an era when those cpu's alone cost this much.

I wish it was mine :(

Its 2024, wake up dude:)

I have 64GB of DDR5 ram in my 12900HX RTX3080TI laptop. You can get a really good deal on ram if you watch for sales. I think I paid 140 for my ram kit on Black Friday.

I don't think it's a pre built I think he did it himself but thing should've been water cooled instead

The customer asked to make it work… it works now 😃 (🤣)

When you have a customer this stupid and ignorant and all they want is for it to work. (You do exactly that)

​@@Nothing666bitchlol your business ethics are impeccable.😂

Undervolting does not decrease performance, it actually improves it, and it greatly decreases temps by a lot

@@lenoirx Oh ok

I'm thinking of building a gaming and AI machine with a water cooled 4090 OC card. What mobo do you recommend for longevity (like maybe support future 5000 cards and new memory sticks).

@@keylanoslokj1806 After a lot of research and some talks with some computer building shops in my area i went with the z790-p none wifi version. I'ts a very good Mobo imo.

LMAO. what an achievement! XD ur CPU does not hit 90c congrats! Intel is a joke.

@@hircine92h I dont think you understand what 100% AVX load stress testing is. In everyday use like gaming the package temp is around 60-70 degrees.

@@keylanoslokj1806 I got a PRIME Z790-P. It has excellent cooling and does a great job at supporting high power draw CPU's. It also has plenty of options for storage expansion, i currently have 3 m.2's 1 HDD and 2 SSD's hooked up to it. Although given that Intel is moving away from the LGA1700 socket i cant recommend it if you plan on upgrading your CPU in the future, either go with an AM5 motherboard as AMD is sticking with that one for at least a few more generations or settle for a 13-14gen Intel.

What car? That's a good record

@@SalemTechsperts 1988 lincoln town car🤣 insurance is cheap and I don't drive much ive spent 5k total

@@infernoking7504 Holy shit are you Mike from breaking bad? That's awesome. Those are all gone up here in the rust belt.

@@SalemTechsperts I live in florida now my family use to live in Wisconsin so ik rust all so well its my first car was $700 with 80k miles so im not doing to bad.

​well done from the sounds of it!