$6,000 PC can't handle the heat (undervolting an i9-13900KF)  

I wish I could pin multiple comments but in the full version you can see on Instagram or TikTok, I explain the undervolt was a temporary solution to keep the CPU stable until the 360mm AIO arrives.

For 6 grand you'd expect the entire pc to be water-cooled

For $6k, you should put the civic radiator on it

Imagine overpaying $6k and not getting a custom cooling setup

When you spend 6K on a PC but use a 240mm AIO on a i9 13900KF. LOL

Imagine spending this much on a PC and getting a to small cooler

For 6k you better get a solid, liquid and gas cooler 💀

4 months later, we finally found out that motherboard manufacturers were over clocking these high-end CPU’s right out of the box. And it certainly didn’t help that Intel was already pushing these CPU’s to the limit.

It’s like your trying to cool down a v10 engine with a Honda civic radiator got me laughing 😂

Alright people. $6,000, let's do the math. ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero - $550 SABRENT 8TB Rocket 4 Plus - $1300 CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5 RAM 128GB - $430 ASUS ROG 4090 - $2000 2x 14TB Seagate Ironwolf - $480 Intel Core i9-13900KF - $550 Phanteks Case - $200? Corsair RM1200x PSU - $230 Corsair 240mm H100i = $120 TOTAL = $5860 w/o tax, not including Capture Card = ???? Fans + cords = ???? Bizon's labor = ???? So yes. $6k. Did Bizon do a shitty job by giving him a 240mm AIO on this CPU? Yes. Is my customer at fault in any way shape or form here? No. They trusted a company to give them what they asked for, and that company failed. The heat should be on Bizon, not my customer.

"after a short youtube tutorial I pretend like I know what im doing" as someone working in Tech as admin/support, this is 95% of the job

That 240mm radiator looks so wrong on so many levels in that pc

for this $6000, i will build my PC casing into a fridge

That's the "i paid a builder 6k for 2500 in parts" box

6k and not even getting a 360mm rad is crazy

So this is a video of someone that got ripped off of 6k .

128GB of RAM? Damn, that thing can run my whole life 💀

"after a few tutorial, i pretend to know what i am doing 😂"

The greatest technician that's ever lived, he search a tutorial in RU-vid

last thing i expect to see in a 6k setup is a 240mm aio 😅

There is nothing like a computer you can't use to its fullest extent

The howl got me dying 💀 💀💀

i read that error message out loud as a cowboy for some reason

Things to invest in, a robust cooling setup is honestly high on my list because even if I’m not getting top spec parts elsewhere, I won’t have to deal with overheating and screaming computer bits which honestly helps the longevity of computer parts more

“Don’t forget, I’ve got your house, your car, and your 401k on my desk”

If you're getting bluescreens from overheating, there might be more at play than just the AIO being too small. Normally, a CPU would simply limit power draw to not overheat and throttle performance. Outright bluescreening under load makes it seem like no heat is being dissipated at all and the CPU overheats before it can even think of throttling. Possibly the contact between CPU and cooler isn't good, which may be the good old "forgot to remove the peel" problem, for example, or a bad/no application of thermal paste.

I built my own recently for $2200, and while I admit, the base stats for that would would smoke mine, I had no issues getting mine to work. I'm running an 11900K in an MSi MEG Z590 GODLIKE with an RX6800 16GB Gaming Z Trio and an 360 AIO CPU Cooler from MSi. Yeah, it's nearly a full MSi build, because after my last machine, which was MSi, which I had a lot of doubt about, lasted me 8 years without any critical fault, I'm a believer. It's only running 64GB of RAM, but its overclocked fairly heavily, and yet, rarely ever goes above 60C. I saw the AIO on that and I was immediately thinking, "What was the builder thinking there?!!?" I'd have a hard time wanting that thing on my old computer's CPU, and is it an old 5800 something 4 core LGA 1151 with a typical CPU fan over it, nothing special. One rule of thumb I have for my computer builds are: 1. Don't watercool unless you have to. 2. I will likely always use an AIO if not watercooling. 3. Always top-mount the AIO. Side mounting is fine, but NEVER bottom mounting. If you find yourself needing to mount your AIO on the bottom, just redo your build. 4. Always exhaust air out the back and top. Always have more fans for intake than exhaust. And do not block your intakes. 5. Install your primary hard drive so it will be what has your OS on it. THEN add the rest of them in. 6. Use a larger PSU than you're going to actually need. That will ensure you can upgrade things later. Be smart about it and think in these terms. "What if you were going to add a 2nd GPU identical to what your primary GPU is. What power supply would be required to run it? Buy that PSU" Things I screwed up on and will not be doing in future builds: 1. My computer case needed to be a little longer, and have a little space between where the edge of the mother board and the back mounted 120mm fans were. Because of that, I had to route my ATX cable upward, and my USB header cables downward. Would have been nice to send it directly behind the mother board. Also, the 2 120mm intake fans got replaced with slim profile fans in order to give my USB headers the clearance needed so it could be plugged in. 2. I should have went with something besides an LGA1200 motherboard/CPU combo. That was my first build, so, my bad. I've seen a number of LGA1700 combos that would have probably been better for the money I spent, but that said, I didn't pay full price for either the motherboard, the CPU, or the GPU, if I'm being honest. While I'm also not sure if I could have gotten even remotely better deals on a good LGA1700 set up, for example, next time I will make sure I'm not working on a limited budget. In all, it took some time to acquire ALL of the parts needed to fully create this thing. Many of these parts sat around for a couple of months while the rest were being purchased. I spent more time looking into better pricing for these bad boys than I did assembling it all, that's for damned sure. 3. A minor detail. Those slim profile fans... they came with an ARGB controller, and I screwed up and didn't plug it into the JCORSAIR plug. The color scheme did not match the Mystic Lights profile, and it took me about a week to figure out why.

I wish PC parts manufacturers would make more efficient chips rather than more powerful ones.

Dude for 6K i would expect it to come with its own portable repairman lol

Should have spent some of that 6k on better cooling.

Not only is that too small of a radiator for the cpu and graphics card, but it's configured as top exhaust, so all the hot air being blown from the gpu is hitting the aio, cpu, and radiator(mainly the radiator). Compounding on this issue is that the 240mm radiator only has stock fans, which are no where near powerful enough. RTX cards run very hot, especially the 90 series, so I understand that the radiator being front mounted is a no, so this basically forces a 360mm radiator with very high rpm/cfm after market radiator fans. I'd even replace all the stock case intake fans for high rpm noctuas.

Might wanna check if they removed the plastic seal on the cooler

Very heartwarming seeing the greatest technician that ever lived to also know about cars too

Plus its been revealed that motherboard manufacturers are running Intel 13th & 14th (& likely 12th gen) all LGA 1700 CPUs out of spec. They are running incorrect Power loads by default, forcing Intel to put out a new power spec baseline and require all Motherboard manufacturers to implement by the end of May.

Bro when i seen the watchdog error, i thought aiden peirce was just gonna walk in and hack the damn thing

Bro tried to save money with the AIO 💀

"Trying to cool a V10 with a Civic radiator" is a roast I would have never thought of outta my head. 🤣🤣🤣

Had the same issue. I spend about the half for just the desktop but i figured everything out myself. There is so many settings to get it on full potential.

Had that same issue. Turned out my psu wasn't enough to support the new cpu.

For 6 grand I'd expect this PC to grow limbs and start doing my homework

Your racoon at the background scared me the shit out of me

That pallet block/reset ability can go nuts on longer loops and god loops in chase, but yeah simply preventing them from being broken and resetting them can kinda be like kicking yourself. The skeleton wave needs to be faster and slightly tighter. Fly needs to be just a little bit less clunky. I’d be careful with anything more than that though because making any of those abilities too strong risks making a jack of all trades, master of one (or some). I completely understand why they were conservative with this killer.

I havent seen linus cut corners until now😂

for 6 Grand I would expect a custom liquid cool loop... or at least a 360 aio!

Blud had 128 gb Of RAM!!!! thats literally the storage amount of my hard drive that runs my entire pc....

Dude got scammed. 6k with a 240mm aio? 😂😂 . This shit was gimped from the start.

Undervolting has worked great for me. Dropped my temps to around 55c while gaming. 80c while stress testing.

Da greatest technician that's ever lived boyyy

There is no way that PC costs six grand for an AIO build. The person got scammed.

we have a brazilian tech version of you here in Brazil and everytime he checks a overheating problem on a costumer PC, its always the PC owner not removing that plastic from the AIO block that say "remove it"

Bro got robbed dude whoever built it for him definitely robbed him. I feel bad for the dude because he probably wasn’t expecting this when he spent the money. He should be able to return it I hope and get something better for less.

Thanks for explaining that "overheated CPUs (thermal issue)" means the cpu is overheating(i couldn't figure it out), you truly understand your audience's intelligence levels 😊

I was just wondering last night if that particular AIO cooler would keep a 14900kf under control... Greatest mind-reader that's ever lived.

The last thing you want to see is no GPU support 😅

i guess this explains my laptop with an AMD processor’s continuous crashing with this same error… yeh that shit gets hot REAL FAST for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON

"Removes cooler, opens prime95, puts frying pan and egg on cpu"

That's why you send your computers to the greatest technician that's ever lived

PC builder simulator taught me to always remember to apply thermal paste.

Intel's aware of it and they are working on it. Reminds me of the days of the floating point errors, requiring them to add a math co-processor. They may require a similar effort to swap out existing stock of installed cpu's in favor of providing modified replacements

A 240mm should cool a 13900k without issues. Either the pump is dying or it wasn’t installed correctly

Remember little ones. the forest is still there... And if you listen, you may hear Lupe's howls, and if you're good, you may just, catch a glimpse of the greatest technician thats ever lived... 🤗

he is *the greatest technician that’s ever lived* . don’t mess that up..

Why this cooler reminds me when people buy a 6k pc but using a 2 dollar connector strip with no fuse . God its give me the chills when i see such pc plucked into some cheap connector strip

THATS LITERALLY THE PROBLEM I HAD WITH MY OLD PC. I went through everything with updating drivers, check disks, sfcscans, etc, and it would still do this. Hats off to the “greatest technician that’s ever lived”

The hottest technician that’s ever lived 🔥

That's why I had Puget Systems build my 13k pc in 2016. They handled the cooling, using infrared cameras, and tweaked as needed, and twitched the build. Also the quietest computer I've ever owned. It was a business asset, so maybe not an option for personal computing. I'm building my own ryzen 9750x3d / rtx 4070 this week, so guess we'll see how that goes!

For that cost you better be getting a phase change cooling setup, such as an aircon hooked up onto a water reservoir which is pumped to a cooling block for that cpu

Bro nerfed the customers pc 💀

What a cute budget, starter PC.

Was that taskbar at the top of the screen???

I would have been looking for a 420mm if the case supports it. I paid $115 for mine and it keeps my i9 7920x in check 5ghz all core. 370 watts and my hottest temp creeps upto 100c under load.

For 6k, it should have a freakin' Epyc or Threadripper and 8 dimm slots.

Imagine spending 6k all for a technician to essentially give you back a part that doesn't perform as specified

My pc was BSOD a lot when I built it. I remember almost every BSOD message related to RAM, I just bought new RAM sticks and never saw a BSOD again. Corsair vengeance 👍

well at least he was honest

“Awoooo!” Yup, he’s definitely an IT technician.

I pretend to know what I'm doing so casually. Goated tech support.

I have the same Enthoo 719 case. You could put up to 14 fans in there. The dude could've done more to cool it. Like a 360 aio or go full water cooling.

I was expecting at least a 360mm AIO for the processor . The pc build company did him dirty.

Did I see 128GIGS OF RAM!?!?!?!?

THE GREATEST TECHNICIAN THATS EVER LIVED 🗣🗣🗣💨💨🔥🔥🔥🔥

😂 My P3 workstation isn’t just blowing out hot air-it’s single-handedly hosting an office tornado convention!

That's why 7800X3D > I9 & I7.

you know the pc is fucked when the greatest technician to ever live has to look up a youtube tutorial to fix it.

The fact that my 2010 laptop does this and then resets itself 😅 luckily i only use it for writing or watching movies, it still has to endure a few more years

oh i’m not excited for this 🤦🏼‍♂️ I’m not spending 3 straight days grinding for badges.

When you max out every spec except endurance

Salem does love his R8

Wow, I didn't know watchdog violation was overheating related. I always thought it was a ram issue. Thanks a lot, seriously! I've had these random watchdog problems for my laptop forever!

I have the same processor, cools just fine with a 360mm fan setup. Use it for gaming and video editing.

I forgot that the greatest technician that’s ever lived was a leaf, so hopefully that customer was only fleeced of $6000 CAD instead of $6000 USD

Tip for future cases like this, the thermal grizzly CPU contact frame fixes this heat issue for the 12th, 13th, & 14th gen Intel CPU's, you could have some lying around for situations like this. My i7-13700k cannot hit a package temp of 90 degrees and thats under 100% AVX load, only cores 1 & 3 go above 90 at 91 & 93 respectively, and my system is air cooled via the Noctua nh-d15.

Easy fix. Place the tower horizontal rather than vertical. Plus you need one push fan and pull fan on your water cooler. ( reverse one fan)

"Just like your newborn it shits itself" - the greatest technician that's ever lived

How do you spend 6k and not have proper cooling

"I bought a 6000 dollar PC to undervolt it due to failed cooling and make it work like a 3000 dollar PC." 😂 Edit: Yes, I know that with very accurate undervolting, you can absolutely extend the life of a CPU by a slight bit. However, that is beside the point of this video, the guys asking to undervolt to assist in overheating, which to undervolt it to that extent will absolutely affect the performance negatively. This is not a GPU, people. It's a CPU. GPUs can have less power and still perform the same, making less heat generate due to less power going through it, which can add some time to its life. The CPU is the same in explanation only the result is more complex, if done wrong, it can crash your computer and possibly cause surges and hurt your hardware. Whereas with a GPU? You'll just get a little wonky game play if you mess that up lol my point in this comment being why risk all that when you can just responsibly buy what you can afford and it works fine, like the $3000 PC that he could've bought instead of wasting double the money only to underwork it due to inefficient cooling. It's like buying a whole gaming setup just for Roblox. 😭 For reference so yall can eat the sock, from Intel: "Undervolt reduces the CPU voltage and reduces energy consumption and heat which can make the processor not stable, so that is why altering clock frequency or voltage may damage or reduce the useful life of the processor and other system components, and may reduce system stability and performance which can be damaging."

Holy crap, undervolting sounds like a rather useful thing to know how to do, even if in this scenario it was only a temporary fix at worst

I have a 13900k in a 9.9 liter small form factor case (FormD T1) with a 240mm nzxt z53 AIO and it works great for gaming.

Yeah the aio might be too small but that still won't make it instantly throttle. That clearly has another issue. You should have looked under the cooler to check for plastic that didn't get removed or for proper thermal paste spread.

Thermal Grizzly makes a contact plate for the 13 and 14th gen Intel chips that corrects the heat problem with the CPU, which it turns out is just a poorly designed socket for the boards in that series. Not only can it lower the Temps by 10 degrees depending on how bad your cooler's contact is with the cpu, it makes all of the cores heat up evenly whereas without it there are Hotspot making it throttle the cpu despite it only being that hot on one or two cores. Worth checking out in this case imo.