Forgot to give context. Ported this reel from IG. Basically the idea is to see if you can spot any actual real world differences between the both. Everybody thinks you NEED to have a Leica lens on a Leica body but that’s not always going to be the case.
@@RickStender he literally asks if you can tell the difference. But he provides it in a form where it’s really hard to do so, implying/ manipulating that there is no difference. And there is
Impossible to tell at this size and compression. I could tell the difference if there were some portraits under these circumstances. The 7Artisans is a Sonnar design I believe the Leica is a double Gauß.
Correct, the thing is professional photographers make money with their lenses, so these companies make money from professionals who earn, and hobby photographers who want some of these gears, so yes they are better, true that it’s not worth the price on paper, but if the access to these lenses and expensive bodies were cheap, then everyone would get it, thus reducing the value a lot.
Portrait isn't where you tell the difference.. it's city and street. The 7artisans flares and has barrel distortion. I still use one tho. It's a little firecracker ha.
Nope, the lens doesn't have much to do with large prints as long as the photos are sharp (which is mostly down to the photographer's skill). The MP count on the camera body is what matters for large prints
You don't need a good lens for large prints. If the print is larger, people naturally stand further back to see the whole image, meaning unless they are looking at a super close distance (which never happens) then no one can tell the difference. Skill always comes before gear.
@@ducklord3604 I don't think you have much experience printing. Printers can resolve much more detail than your monitor/TV. Your 32 inch 4K monitor is mere 140ppi. Set your printer to 140ppi and result will be laughably blurry. A decent fine art print shops will run a Noritsu on their standard prints. And those thing print at 640ppi. Area wise it is 20 times the MP of the 32 inch monitor. So any defects that are already visible on a screen will be very distracting on the prints. Of course, I don't think people into large prints shoot with Leica range finders. But you will still generally require pro-grade lenses.
Tbh, if they are not from the same scene, I doubt anyone would be able to tell the difference of any 2 lens, especially after post-editing. This does mean that the cheaper lens do not hold you back from crafting great art, but doesn’t mean that the expensive lens are not better.
Finally, someone who gets it! Love the Leica lens but the 7A holds up really well and for the most part, it's honestly hard to tell the difference in casual situations.
I had the 7A 35 f2, some other 35s as well as the Summilux 35 FLE. The 7A optically is very nice but has a lot of pincushion distortion. Of course you don’t notice that in pics of people etc, but you will if there are straight lines in your image. The problem I had with the 7A is like all 7A lenses I’ve used is it focuses way past infinity at the hard stop. It still focused accurately with the rangefinder, but you couldn’t just crank it to the hard stop and think you had infinity. Also of course the build quality and design is not as nice. But if you only have $300 it is a super deal.
Good point! Yeah I agree on the distortion. I would say even then, it's quite acceptable for the price. QC was also the main issue I had. I had a few copies and all of the were back or front focused. Then again, I've also shot with Leica lenses that were back focused. You should check on the comments on my IG. Everyone started a riot because the 7A was on an M6. Ah the internet
Can you tell the difference like that? Probably not... glass these days even from cheap chinese manufacturers is so good you really have to pixel peep to see the difference
I can compare any photo that was taken on the most expensive lenses in the world with a pin-hole camera photo, all I need is to make images even smaller and show eahc for 0.1 seconds. I can guarantee you could not spot the difference
With downsized RU-vid resolutions, all shown photos have shitty image quality, technically spoken. The idea of the images is independent from gear but the output medium requires a certain input quality.
Fair point! I do agree on the input quality being important to a certain extent. But also in which situations would EXTREME quality be needed. I would say very little
I don't think there is a need to do A/B but the fact is whether I (we) like a photo can be subjected to a myriad of reasons like composition, lighting, color harmony and many more rather than just what is the image. bad lighting and composition with a good lens don't make an image nice, the ability of the photographer and the type of audience can also make the decision very different. so this reel, unfortunately, lose any meaning or at least your intended purpose because I am literally trying to paint on air here
Not on RU-vid 😅 we all just watching this video in 720p or 1080p on a YT story 😅 You can tell the difference if you print otherwise no. No you can't tell the difference on a below 0.9mp video clip 🤣
You can’t see the difference on the internet. Print it 10x10 put it close to each other and any good professional will tell you. But because 90% of the photos are for internet use. Before spending so much money for a lens you should ask yourself what you are doing with your photos.
Depends on the lens, some camera brands are more expensive (like leica) But 300 can get you a solid lens, photography can be expensive, but it doesn't have to be ridiculous, 1000 can get you a good setup, 1000 is alot but it's not mind boggling
This is the worst comparison dude there’s virtually no way to tell from completely different images, different styles, different lighting… it could be 20 different lenses
I wonder how much 7Artisan puts into research and development, or do they just copy popular lens designs??.... How long before Leica won't have funds to do R&D? Will 7Artisan still produce amazingly cheap lenses then??... #justasking
I will never understand why people use Leica cameras or lenses. Yes they over good image quality. But a Sony a6000 can get damn near identical images for 300 bucks used and have access to more lenses that cost less. Idk. Maybe I need to use one to get it. But I don’t like their design. They seem very poorly designed.
LOL... since when humans have been fitted with eagle AI eyes that can spot differences that have been removed by algorithms to compress to to 1080.... or can you tell the difference between a whiskey aged 50 years and a cheap blended one by looking an them in a generic glass half a mile away through a pair of binoculars....
