I think there should be a change in the law, in how this is dealt with. So the registered owner of the car, is asked who was driving the car, and refuses to answer. In court the registered owner gets asked to name the person who was driving If the owner fails to explain who was driving the car, then car will be seized and sold at auction
What of those who are unable to name a driver because some one lost a log or didn't sign for a van that day, punitive law is bad law but what ever makes you feel good
In this case the car was owned by a company, not an individual. That’s the loophole. So instead of the individual getting points, the company gets a fine for not nominating who was driving.
@@ihadmyfill Any decently run company should be able to know which of their customers or employees is using what vehicle at any time. Especially rental companies. It's not an excuse in my opinion.
Anyone who’s entire defence to being caught doing something illegal is “you’re jealous” is a complete bellend. But then, his driving beforehand showed that already… I’m not jealous, but am certainly concerned he thinks operating such a powerful machine without giving it proper concentration in such a busy city is acceptable!
£1000 for someone who owns a car like this is like spending £1. Not good enough. And no points taken off is frankly an insult to those who actually drive carefully and respect the rules.
@@sowell7525 it’s not jealousy at all, I’m not a petrolhead and literally don’t care about cars at all 🤣 why do people have this type of mindset… I have zero interest in cars…
Once again, loopholes for the wealthy to allow them to get away without points or real consequences. A grand doesn't sound like a big enough fine for a Lambo owning company
Not really anyone can do this I have several motorbikes registered to a company whom I then rent them from took me a couple of days research and a couple of hours to setup. Don't moan play the game use their rules against them
Probably leased or on finance. The reason I say that is he seemed so quick to say you’re jealous so he was only driving that to try and look like the big I am. Truly wealthy people are so used to driving cars like this that its normal to them.
Another legal system failure. I went to court a couple of weeks ago to give evidence against a drink driver who had driven off after a serious accident. I wasn't called to give evidence as she was found not guilty. The reason? The CPS failed to forward one document to her lawyer at the right time. Result? One drink driver gets off Scot free. Disgusting.
Yes and she will go round saying "found not guilty" and people will think ah she wasn't DUI then. A bit like that social worker that got away with negligence but some sort of police procedure wasn't done correctly and she went round telling people "thrown out of court".......................
I find it strange that someone would spend £3-400k on a vehicle and then drive it in an area of the city where he is limited to travel at the same speed as a passing push bike. But then again, if he took it out on the open road, he wouldn't have his daily fix of an 'envious' audience looking at him. Narcissism at its finest !
They only drive it here to show off, they mostly rented vehicles and it's a good way to boost social media followers, it's sad but that is the reality.
A high performance car rushing around, undertaking and weaving in and out of traffic...and yet he still wasn't any faster than you for the distance you filmed him! And yet a common complaint from drivers is that cyclists hold up the traffic.
Lost count of how many times I've been overtaken inconsiderately or even dangerously on my bike, only to catch them up at the next set of lights. Big risk, zero gain.
@@dazediss6629 Actually yes you are correct as it's city traffic. Totally fair comment. However (and as you also correctly mentioned) he is weaving dangerously in and out of traffic, which is what I was really eluding to.
@@ibs5080 yes exactly it's called Driving without due care and attention. The phone use is the most serious here. And it is not undertaking that's what we do if he kills someone, it is known as overtaking on the inside.
Yeah exactly. Why can't some people understand its single occupant cars that cause congestion and slow down traffic in cities? and bikes help to ease congestion.
Pretty shocking. I mean the driver's face is in the video. Could the police not dig a little deeper and link the car to the actual driver? If the entity is work a few million then 1k is nothing much
I like the way you left him to his delusion when he kept saying you're jealous. I do that myself when people can't be reasoned with, so it's good to see someone else using the "rise above it" approach too. Well done, CM. 😁👍
It is ridiculous, but if no-one will say who was driving, it's very difficult to actually know who should get the points. Personally I think any registered keeper who fails to nominate (or admit to being) the actual driver, should have their licence AND their car taken off them, and then have to physically watch as one is shredded and the other gets crushed into a 3' cube, respectively. After a few news stories of that nature, people might get the message.
@@eddyblackmore2834 But if the registered keeper is a company, none of that works. My theory is the guy owns his own company which itself owns the car, or leases it. So the company takes the hit and he avoids the points.
I think that the failure to identify the driver penalty should be higher, I'm not going to mention my opinion of abuse of speed roaring away. Good going, Mikey. All the best regards to you 🙏
Don’t be silly we have enough. This is just capitalism at work, to get money from us plebs. Eventually though the rich will hoard it all, and we’ll die off.
£1000 is not enough. I believe if fines were a percentage of your earnings or in this case the companies, then people would definitely change their attitude. Have a great weekend.
in finland speeding fines are indexed to income and have been for a century. Sometimes this leads to comical results, as when in 2015 a millionaire had to pay a fine of more than €54,000 for a speeding offense of exceeding the limit by just over 20km/h. The absolute record is held by a motorcyclist, who had to pay €116,000 in 2002 for exceeding the speed limit by 25km/h in a city..
I wonder if the same loophole will apply when he eventually drives over a pedestrian or cyclist? If not then what's the difference? Good catch Mikey 👍❤️🇬🇧
"If", he has an accident. Pedestrians are just as much in danger from cyclists. Taking into account the vast difference in cars to bicycle ratio, range of cars etc, it's surprisingly very close.
@@ivorwindybottom7364 Considering most people are run over by cars in general and even on a pavement, more people are run over by cars than cyclists... I'd say you would be better off looking out for cars...
@@ivorwindybottom7364 The statistics tell a very different story, pedestrians are about 50 times more likely to be killed by motor vehicles on the pavement than by cyclists. The ratio for pedestrian fatalities generally is about 100 to 1 vehicles to cyclists. The application of a little school level Physics knowledge explains why!
That's always the smug retort of the idiot: you're just jealous. I've never driven a Lamborghini, but I did once have a ride in one and I can confirm that it was the most hideous experience I've ever had in a car. If anyone gave me that 'you're only jealous' routine, I'd tell them what for. Cheers Mikey, we appreciate all your selfless work.
In various countries people recieve a percentage fine based off what they earn as opposed to just giving everyone the same fine. It means someone earning £100,000 a year would get a fine which hurts their pocket and makes them think twice and someone who earns £20,000 a year still feels it. As opposed to currently where it hurts people who can't afford to lose that money and just confirms to the rich that they can break the law and not feel any real impact. Why UK hasn't adopted this yet is beyond me
£1000 not even enough for a couple of new tires on this car. Shouldn't fines be means tested and appropriate for who is paying? £1000 is lunch for some people "who probably have a great accountant so avoid paying taxes" But it could be devastating for someone else who actually does something useful for a living.
Mikey when did this go to court. When checking its reg the DVLA says it is now SORN and has no MOT details held. Other sites have it as no tax and has no MOT since 28/2/2022
Could you try and contact good law project? Obviously the law is supposed to be the same for everyone but obviously it's not as this person has evaded points and probably a massive increase on insurance by cheating the system.
The only way you can stop this is to make it not worthwhile for these companies to protect their clients. They can't identify a driver but you know damned well that they didn't rent it to someone with no ID. Super-fines required for non-compliance, and the chances of that happening with the current bunch of crooks making the laws...
@@PedroConejo1939 Get a court order, or the case into court, then it becomes contempt of court if failing to identify the law breaker. The good law project are the experts.
I am more certain than not, the tint was illegal as well. That’s often a sign of someone who wishes to remain anonymous. Despite driving an overpowered banana
If they fail to disclose the owner of the vehicle by the time it gets to court the vehicle should be seized and storage fees accumulated until they decide to own up
Nice Work Mikey! It is really a nice car, but the noise pollution it is creating is very unpleasant. Such cars belong on the race track and not in areas people are living and working.
Yes. The chavs that own a restraunt near us drive these types of vehicles as they also own one of these luxury car hire companies. Might bd mkney launderers too - who knows? I know they flout planning laws though - extending their restraunt massively, only evef applying for planning retrospectively. The council did even instruct them to remove one outbuilding and tgat is quite a rare thing. They travel in convoy dropping rev bombs at all sorts of crazy hours. This country is a mess.
Guessing owned by a car hire company or a lease company that offers this as a service - refuses to name you as a driver and lets you pay a fine instead.
You do a wonderful job. Keep it up, but perhaps you could shout at offenders such as the cyclist at 2.40 riding one-handed with his phone in front of his face. I rode round Plymouth yesterday and lost count of the one-handed or, more commonly, no-handed cyclists riding like this on the roads or in the pedestrian precint, posing a great danger to themselves and others.
I think phone use is only illegal in motor vehicles in the UK. He’s also mentioned before about confronting 2 wheeled road users. He doesn’t confront them in case he causes them to lose balance and fall.
In the UK it is not an offence to use a mobile phone while cycling, riding with no hands is though. As for one handed, how precisely do I signal my intentions to other road users, or indeed adjust the zipper on my jacket without leaving just one hand on the handlebars? The answer of course is that you neither know nor care, indulging in some brain dead anti cyclist whataboutery is all you are doing!
Just a small correction, the DVLA have a register of keepers not owners and the registration document clearly says on it that it’s not proof of ownership. The S172 of the RTA also refers to keepers and not owners. Otherwise keep up the good work!
Only reason I'd be in favour of bike rego's is if they are also required to have insurance. And that's the same with e-transport. I see son many people coming through hospital from being hit by scooters and the patient ends up with a huge bill.
Did he kerb his wheels whilst pulling away from you at the end or was there a Rizzla sized gap between the kerb and wheels? If he did that would have been a more expensive mistake than the £1000 sadly.
Such a shame he found the loophole to avoid the points, fines do nothing for someone with money, points do. I think he was jealous that you kept up with him on a bike :)
Man, we need an army of you in the States. I don't bike in my city for fear of people hitting me and other cyclists barely know the laws/regulations. Even just going for walks I see SO many people with their phones up. And in modern cars there is just no excuse. Long time follower, Mikey. Good to see you're still at it and crushing it! Be well and stay safe!
Jealous, Ha, Ha, Ha...Yeah we're all jealous of a bucket of cash canary coloured box, that crawls around London making little boy racer noises.... A push bike is quicker as Mikey shows...Yeah, we're jealous..! Nice catch Mikey, the driver is a total Knob..Peace..!
Whilst it is correct the registration number does not identify the driver at least the registered keeper is held accountable (to a degree). Although the UK has photographic ID driving licenses (assuming the driver holds one of these) and the driver's image was captured on video, presumably the Police were unable or unable to link the two? If it could be demonstrated the registered keeper knowingly chose to obstruct the Police's inquiries into identifying the driver, then that could introduce a very different set of potentially far more serious offences. Thank you for your efforts towards seeking to keep our roads safe!
There’s no difference between the rich and poor. They all have a 10% disposable income. So, if you make £100 a week, £10 is nothing. It’s the same when you make £100K a week £10K is nothing. Except with £100K you can buy a judge👍
It is such a shame that the police cannot do more it is probably because there is too much paperwork and the courts don't hand out stronger fines but most of all keep up the good work love xxxx
£1000?!! This is ludicrous!! This surely deserves some points because this guy used his phone, left a massive gap between him and the car ahead and parked at white patching markings. I think this guy needs to be disqualified for 2 years. Keep up the great work mikey!! I’m loving those videos!!!
Massive fine. Your point about license plates is very true. You've shown it many times where companies have been able to escape a lot of punishment for the driver.
Hi Mikey, what a shame, was the company owning the car registered in the UK as an overseas company may ignore the £1000 fine as well. Sadly, the law always lags society's behaviour and I suspect this person realised he was likely to get speeding fines etc so registered the car with a company rather than himself. If he knocks down and kills a pedestrian, then quickly flees the UK, it may be difficult to trace him. Hope you're reading this Ms Patel MP.
MIkey, at least the UK issues a fine regardless of whether the driver nominates/identifies themselves. In the US we have the 5th Amendment, so if the registered owner/keeper of the vehicle refuses to identify who was driving, the legal system is out of luck unless other evidence is available.
Another guy thinks he is above the law and privelidged because his car is worth more than ours, shame on him, apart from phone use there was driving without due care and attention and an I dont give a dam attitude, should have got more than a fine in my opinion. The one thing I like about your videos over others is your riding mate, only someone that rides motorcycles will see your high standards ie shoulder checks, indication and observations so good on you for being a good cyclist buddy.
Brother i never respected you as person until today when you said, i dont mind the noise, i like the noise. Big respect from me as a supercar driver in London. Keep up all your good work, you have no jealousy in you. God bless you, take care from me 🫡
The era of video is endlessly fascinating. For example, I watched knowing you would use your elevated perspective and capture rig to provide a very cool drone-like segment of the culprit, red-handed! The jitterbug leg action of the driver clearly displayed his discomfort- so, mission accomplished. The blatant disregard displayed, I assume because of fore-knowledge of the corporate obfuscation he had in place, was illuminating; well done, never stop!
A grand? Car worth/costs more then many of our homes. Perhaps bring in a rule for company cars....if you don't comply you get hit for a minimum 10% of value of the list price of a new model to maximum vehicle seized if its a serial law breaking vehicle ( driver). As for number plates on bikes? I don't think it'll work either, but I do think it should be law to wear a safety helmet, that goes for electric scooters too. No helmet, no using the roads/ cycle lanes. They seem to go with legislation against motor vehicles but leave other modes of transport alone
If you can afford a lambo that much money is pennies. To them its not a fine but just the cost of using the phone. People with money dont see a £35 parking ticket as a punishment to them it costs £35 to park for the day
It's not a nice car, it sounds stupid and is impractical low utility value for this and most use cases. Nasty car, in fact the noise pollution is dangerous as you get distracted by the abrupt jarring noise these horrible machines make and you don't hear something else coming the other way while your looking under duress. Highly startling and imposing decibels on the environment ambiance.
Until a few years ago in Australia, drivers of a company owned vehicle were able to avoid accruing penalty points on their licenses and the company paid the fines. The law was changed now requiring the company to Nominate the driver so that they can be fined and points attributed to them. Failure by the company to nominate the driver results in the fine being 5x the prescribed amount AND a special fine to the company for failing to nominate the driver. Each failure to nominate attracts a higher fine on the company.
If this driver can afford to own such an expensive car then surely he could afford to have a hands-free telephone system fitted? Unless the car isn't his and is just a rental (for example)? Even one of the large well-known brand car rental firms have Lamborghinis for hire starting from £695 /day. Just a thought...... 😀
If licence plates don't work then why have them at all? Also I'm pretty sure licence plates were rolled out before cars became mass market. It would probably be difficult to get them accepted in a world or country (Netherlands) where you are the first country to do so and where car (bike) use is already ubiquitous. Just look at the opposition to gun registration in the 'states for instance; if it was there from the beginning then I'd suggest it would still be there today.
Needs to be another change in the law now. It needs an adjustment such that if there is a failure to comply, another S172 notice can be sent for the same offence, until the driver Is nominated, each failure resulting in increasing fines, but with the addition that the person responsible for the vehicle then has to be identified, whether or not the driver, such that they themselves can answer a case to show that they’ve exercised due diligence in Trying to identify the driver. Further, where the insurance has named drivers, Police should, following a failure to nominate, be allowed to check the details of each named driver on DVLA Database, and identify them by DL Photograph. Then the driver STILL gets prosecuted! Only THEN will this fiasco begin to reduce!
My opinion is that if it is a company vehicle each company director and secretary should receive 24 points and an £10.000 fine if they do not declare who was driving the vehicle at the time!
