£280 for a worthless piece of paper? Electrician 

Nice to hear a different perspective

So I have had a full day EICR and done 2-3 in a day, it depends on property size/if you've worked on it before so you're familiar with the system etc. Also RCD is great but you can't force people to have RCD protection when it wasn't needed to previous versions of BS 7671 it is not retrospective yet most companies will test to the new regs not what complied when it was first installed (any alterations have to meet with their respective versions at the time of install though). At the end of the day just find a company that won't bend the truth, sometimes items need replacing and work needs to be carried out but it should not be a given. I once had to attend a lovely country rental for a unsatisfactory EICR due to a shower that a young lad from another company picked up - he stated IP rating of the electric shower compromised due to the plumber cutting out the top left hand side to bring the water supply and the cable into the shower Via trunking mastiked in. When I attended could not see an issue with that at all, done properly and used the correct cut outs so it didn't affect the IP rating of the shower - the issue that I found was the shower was 10.5kw on a 6mm cable 15 meters from the consumer unit and way over sized for the cable so the shower needed changing to a 7.5kw and the cable partially replacing. I called up the governor of the company an forwarded the photos just so he could inform the young lad that did the report for better future knowledge. So TLDR; experience and training makes a massive difference between EICR's unlike the very exacting standards of Gas where it always gets upgraded or disconnected if unsafe.

As a managing agent how much do you pay electricians to complete a EICR?

@@KH-bs2bz we were quoted 155 plus VAT as we had large numbers

@Mark Sesum I agree and I am spending lots of my time trying to explain to landlords that even with C3’s and a satisfactory result on the report if anything was to happen and they had ignored the recommendations to improve they’re still open to possible prosecution because the legislation for landlords is that they must use all due diligence to ensure the property is safe for rental purposes. We want all the properties we manage to be totally safe in all aspects including gas and electric’s. I thought the legislation coming in was to help with this but clearly it just seems that some people are trying to get a satisfactory report and then just ignore any C3s raised . Thankfully almost all of our landlords are listening to the advice and have instructed any relevant upgrades.

Chris always carry’s out safe isolation procedures don’t you Chris 😉 nah jsut joking love the videos keep them coming Chris take care mate 👍👍👍

From the On site Guide 150 mm - S 2.3 suggest insulating material rated to 230 v over pipe or insulating material interposed

Cheap .

And then they went on a holiday for two weeks in the Caribbean Islands??Paid by the customer?

Definitely agree. Chris just does all the work and has James sitting around faffing

You’ll never progress stood watching constantly, not in the long run anyway.....get him in at the deep end and he’ll learn quicker/gain confidence and start earning you money! Will also keep him interested 👍🏼

No there’s still resistance to torque it up.

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A surprisingly thorough drive-by though, if he bothered to scribble the made-up test results on the bus bar covers! The lengths some people go to just to do something wrong.

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@@Cjrelectrical Awwww. I would have showered you in cookies :P

@@Fishbait075 Excuse the intrusion, what was Chris's reply to your Q or is it those marks under his name, are they internet speak meaning something, I'm an oldie so don't know all the shortcuts. Thanks in advance if you can explain.

@@nw5835 He gave it a thumbs down. Which I read as "no way buddy, Nottingham is WAY outa my way" :)

Not just Crest Homes, but many others in that period. FYI, by the end of 1977, G/Y colours were mandatory.

Pablo might be a figure of my imagination 🤷🏻‍♂️

There is.

There is of course...

I don’t have a cat.. well who’s kitty litter did I just shit in?

Could always gland into the top bottom or sides if they can’t enter the rear easily.

Kewtech is not over complicated for my tiny brain.

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Rush Electrics... seems like the man to go to

He's at a point of tightening things up and leaving. Plus there's only him and James there, so I'm pretty sure that lock off not being on at this point isn't really an issue is it 😂

@@gkbailey540 I know. But he went through the whole thing of showing us that he locked off to work safely. Then when it comes to doing the buzz bar the lock is gone. Kinda defeats the purpose of showing us locked off no?

Main switch was also off bud we were ready to energize. It also got in the way of me tightening up the main switch with my Allen key. I didn’t leave the board unattended at this point and the house was empty.

@@Cjrelectrical 👍

He did put the outgoing cables pigtailed into the isolator 🙈. Bit of a no no. Easy to snag/pull that way.

Probably not in accordance with manufacturer instructions...... The certification was almost certainly done in horizontal orientation, plus the lid should be top hinged etc.

@@farmersteve129 I did mention the lid...

They have 19 strands rather than the 7 strands that standard tails have. You do not have ferrules on the end (just like on standard tails).

@@stupot_64 thank you

I've used them on many occasions and haven't used ferrules. They don't compress like Tri rated because the strands aren't as fine. They just have more slightly thinner strands than standard tails.

That's a great idea 👍

From what I seen in previous videos, rarely do the Tails from the meter have an isolator. That means he usually has to call "Pablo" in to pull the Main fuse so he can do a board change.

Everflex Draper and wiha

One of the four people who know who truly messed up!

Looked into this when I changed the CU here. Lots of refs. to a non-conductive and non-combustable barrier if less than 150mm but not one example given of a suitable material or a picture of one in situ. Asked the commissioning sparks and he said he'd never fitted one so I didn't bother.

@@Graham_Langley Cement board is normally my go to as it's what my local college and my GasSafe assessor/ NICEIC assessor both agreed on. I just use metal L brackets to bolt it to the wall.

@@effervescence5664 That's something I'd thought of but didn't have any to hand. The use of metal brackets raises an interesting point how to you fit it? Metal brackets are conductive and a block of wood is combustible, plus any screws will be metal and will go through the barrier if it's something like cement board. Also does this reg. take into account metal-cased CUs?

@@Graham_Langley Normally use 10mm board and just make a slot in the bottom and top for the board to slide over the bracket. Then drill them into the wall with screw fixings on the gas meter side away from potential conductors. You can use plasterboard too but I found it a little flimsy. Edit: No the reg does not take into account metal CU's - it's written as any CU due to being a Gas regulation copied into the Electrical regs and not the other way around.

@@effervescence5664 Thank you. Looks like I''ll have to have a look at it again if only to score brownie points should the installation ever have to be checked in the future. [Edit] FWIW I was going to use the 4mm fibre cement board used for roof undercloaking and soffits.