chuck, i like your show alot, thank you! we purchased 4 nine bots max original and 2 show error 15, we are having problems clearing them, do you any suggestions
I just got mine and I love it. Perfect scooter for the price. Everything about it I have no complaints. I got mine to 30km with just the firmware update. I drove max speed to and from work 5.5 miles, 11 mile round trip, and still had 2 bars and the other one blinking. So 2 and a half you can say. Great scooter and the tires are great. I had to replace mine on a hoover scooter and it completely went to shit after that. No tubes would fit and the ones that did, the stem was too long or curved. So having no replacement tubes is by far my favorite thing about it.
Thank you for the super informative and professionally done video! I absolutely love my ninebot Max G 30 LP scooter. I'm a smaller person, 125 pounds, and I use the scooter to go to one of my jobs and to go to my parents' house as I am a caretaker. I have saved so much gas and had so much fun riding around on the scooter on the side streets and bike paths. So glad I purchased it!
Got two G30LP's from Costco and returned the larger Max...reasons...very simple....the max is heavier, doesn't fit in the trunk, handle bars are to high and overall ride quality is the same between these scooters. Also I like the charger to be separate from scooter because if adapter breaks it can easily be replaced. In the Max the charger has to be replaced from inside the scooter. Bottom line, anybody under 5'-8" can easily ride the G30LP. If taller then 5"-8" then Max is needed because larger deck.
I got the G30LP and I have absolutely no complaints. I'm 5'5" 180lbs dude so its fine for me. Did the firmware hack and man that thing takes off now! No issues!
They didn’t mention the main appeal of the new scooter. The reason some of its stats are worse is because the battery can make the scooter go full speed even when it is about to die, which means you could be going the full 19mph at 10% battery. As for the old version, it begins to lose top speed once the battery is below 70% battery. I had the opportunity to buy either one for the same price and I actually went with the new version because this trait is so valuable to me.
I have both the Ninebot max and the G30LP. I like both. When I go on short trips I take the G30LP. Heavier trips I take my Ninebot. Both are well made.
G30LP is a little smaller and has a range of 25 miles on a full charge. The Ninebot Max has a range of 40 miles on a full charge. They both can reach 19 MPH.
Great review ESG! I am 59 years young, 5' 7", 175 pounds. I like the specs for my first scooter purchase (getting it next week). I will be taking it to some camp grounds that have small hills. Can't wait!
I've had mine now for 6 months and I'm over 300 lb I use it for work and fun and put 300 miles on it and the thing is a beast , I attached a wagon to the back of the seat to use as a pull equipment to and from the field when I'm working, everybody is always jealous saying that's the way to go . On my channel on my i do reviews on this particular shooter . I love it so much .
I got the Ninebot Max G30LP for $520 on BF Amazon flash sale, so I am not complaining. Beside I am a “regular” size guy, who fit this lighter escooter.
Hey Keith - I just got it too on Amazon for $599.99 but haven’t unboxed yet. Have you taken it out for a spin? I’m 5’10 about 205 rockin size 11 sneakers. Wondering if the deck n where your arms are for the bars seem comfy to you. Thanks bud.
@@playboy2323 I have it for a little over a month now. So far I put 129 mi on it. It feels quite comfortable, except the lid of the charge socket. It is difficult to put on correctly and easy to get loose. The loose off of the lid doesn’t feel like affecting the performance of the escooter though.
Damn, you got a good price huh. Now it is around 699 dollars less 20 dollars coupon. Anyway how is it for a regular commute? Any issues suspension wise? I don't want to go for cheaper models like Xiaomi 365 or GoTrax 4 and be worried about build/quality issues.
Yeah I’ve had it for almost half a year and it’s my first scooter I think it’s pretty good but the longer you ride something You’ll start to think you wanna go a little faster the range is good but sometimes you wish you can go a little faster and the price range plays a part
Just dipping my toe in the scooter market.. actually bought it for using on the golf course. This was a perfect video to teach me about the features of the G30 LP. PS I'm 6'8 240lb and it fits me pretty good!
i have been a e scooter nerd since i got my first one ninebot es1 and now i have 3 es1 max 30 and now waiting for the new order cant wait, may all time fav is this one i love everyhing about it
Nice vid and thanks for the comparison updates. To suit my size and travel distance needs I would go for the original Ninebot Max. However my real reason for thinking of buying one is not one that I find online to have been considered....I could be wrong....but anyways...... I have a HIace Hitop Campervan and intend travelling extensively. As a Senior Citizen, for me to have another means of transport to use either to go get help in case of vehicle breakdown or medical emergency or if I need to go pick up supplies and shopping are all for me highly important considerations. That means I need to seriously look at how I am going to port the thing in my Campervan. My van is being serviced right now so I am only guessing when I say that the Ninebot might fit under the bed at the rear. That will deprive me of quite some of the space I normally use for plastic food storage bins. But.....this is all about consideration of PRIORITIES , CONVENIENCE along with PROTECTION OF PERSONAL MOBILITY... so I am staying focused on that. One thing that occurs to me is that it would greatly simplify storage of a Ninebot if the handle could be rotated to be in line with the body when it is folded up. It could then be stored lying either vertically or flat within a limited space such as a car boot, or attached to the back of a vehicle somehow. Bicycle holders which attach to the vehicle towball have been around for years...I will have to check if there is such an option for E-scooters, and one that ensures they are rendered thief proof to a reasonable degree. So for me, the considerations are not so much about having FUN......but things much more important. The FUN to be had will for me be more that of PERSONAL SATISFACTION that I have covered the important bases I set out to. I am sure I will have FUN riding one. I still get that even riding my bike at age 76 !
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I live in the UK...the world's most unfriendly country for e-scooters. I've an electric bike currently but one day when the UK see's the light I'll get a scooter.
My vehicle transmission actually went out and after 6 months of using uber decided to invest an e scooter for my 2 miles commute to work. I was actually tried finding a video review on the ninebot 30 series but mostly on the original g30 not much on the lp. Only readable reviews this actually is spot on except from the charging door having issues with door or lid braking. I went ahead and went with the original g30 with the max since It was delivered earlier of the versions. Being almost 50 years old thing 5'6" 145 lbs it basically no frills and jump on and go. Only thing i need to do pay attenion to surrounding. New to the hobby and looking forward to more upcoming in depth reviews from the esg crew thanks.
Just bought this in Costco. I really love it. I'm only 5'6 so it's perfect in my height. I use it everyday to work. It's only drawback is the range. Your work distance should not be more than 15 kilometers away from your house in order to ride this scooter back and forth without charging. If your work is 20km away then get the Max. Even though it says max range of 40km this scooter will probably get you to max range of 38. Roads aren't level all the time and weather condition can also affect the range.
@@KevinModz65 I just bought it but it took awhile to connect to an iPhone and I think the app isn't all its cracked up to be.....but the scooter works just fine - for now! have a good one ✌️
@@marinct3176 Hi Marin, I think you may find this new model does the trick- does for me! I love it, good to go right out of the box. happy shopping! ride safe....
I just got this at Costco on sale for a good discount. I'm pretty happy with it so far and I like that it's a bit smaller and lighter than the previous model. I'm not needing to go like 45 miles on an escooter anyways.
I try to think of it as a good round trip distance. I might not want to go 45 miles away on it but if I might go half that distance then at least it should get me back home. Anyway, mine doesn’t tha be that range anyway, being the newer model, but it’s worth considering that approach.
Dont know why they come up with a new Max if the other one was so hard to improve on, would have been best they had the old one until they managed to break the mold again in some more years, like adding suspension or increasing range or acceleration. Just making it smaller, removing the integrated charger and reducing range does not make any sense, instead makes it a downgrade and more in line with the xiaomi.
@@Darmixo nope 👎 look on the motor (rear wheel) , if the serial number starts with a 6 it’s the old motor (not brushless ) if it starts with 9 it’s a brushless motor
@@JCKloppers Sorry, that's simply not correct. ALL modern-day eScooters employ Brushless DC Motors -all of them! The difference between the Serial 6x motors & the Serial 9x ones is mainly to do with the number of turns of wire that is used for the electromagnet for each motor segment -thereby giving each motor type a slightly different performance characteristic. -And the 'gauge' of the wire [thickness] is different too. I understand that the Serial 6x motors have greater driving power (torque) for going up steep inclines, but have slightly slower top speeds. While the 9x motors have higher top speeds but have slightly less torque available for going up steep inclines. But then, most people seem to judge how fast a scooter can go on the flat -and forget to consider how well a scooter can handle steep inclines. But this latter aspect is pretty important for people who live in hilly cities though. Cheers
I have the original max. I am buying a second one because I love it so much. When I saw the new version come out I loved your video because it really explain the differences I am 6'2" tall and really have issues with scooters I do not fit my frame. Yeah man I think ninebot builds an incredible product I think the difference between the two scooters really comes down to size my personal recommendation is to spend the extra hundred dollars and get the original Max it is in such a solid machine I love it
Great review guys! You said it best Chuck. If the original Max did not exist, then this newer version would be a contender amongst the crowd. I will defend the original Ninebot Max to the very end. Segway needs to go back to the drawing board in a locked room and stay there until they come up with something more impressive 🛴💨😃
I think you said it better than I said it lol. Maybe if they had given more options to increase/decrease the motor power then riders could tweak their own power/range to make it optimum for them.
@@satwikk9896I coincidentally bought it on Amazon Prime Day of July 11th this year and it was exactly the same price as you described! It is simply amazing and I already have 700+ miles on it! It helped me get on time at my 2 hour, multi-modal commute home and to work with barely any battery remaining every time I come home. I'm looking to upgrade to an F2 Pro this Christmas to make sure the speed does not dip to 17mph when you drop below 60% battery on the G30LP.
@@satwikk9896It was amazing and reliable. I now upgraded to a Ninebot F2 Pro which is faster, more powerful and sleeker in ride quality with roughly the same range but requires more maintenance.
@@chaxologist2024f2 pro doesn't even have a battery it does but that battery is so small that you'll have to be kicking it most of the time to get it up to 20
These are more nimble than the original one. Also maintains 18 mph much better at low battery level. Range is much less but with a fast charger you can really push this thing. Great vid.
Thanks a million! Honestly! You guys totally and utterly ROCK! I have recently become interested in buying an electric scooter, and I super appreciate all the reviews and the detailed information you guys include on your videos etc. By the way in my opinion the videos you guys make are the best and the most professional looking and sounding, and the most informative. You guys are seriously amazing!!! A huge well done to you all! THANK YOU! 😃🙏💖😃🙏💖
I think I would prefer G30LP but it's still far from perfect, I fear that it would be near impossible for me to carry around. I was hoping this version would cut down the weight much more.
I got one at costco for 850 cad. I was considering the max but everywhere else sells it for 1200 cad( used ones sell for 950-1000 ) best buy had them for sale for 1100 at one point but they all ways sell out. I feel like i already got a good deal and i get around 30km on it . Gets me from home to work and back no problem and ive been using it for 7 months . I saved a couple hundred dollars not paying for parking and auto insurance. So if you live in the city i would recommend getting one ( get the max though, I feel like the extra miles on it will help) I dont k ow where people are getting them for a "$100" than the glp but if you can get them on sale then go for it
This thing is brilliant! I opted to return my E22 and buy a refurbished G30LP. This thing is so much faster and built like a TANK. Surprisingly, the lighter E22 doesn't fit in my car trunk, but the G30LP barely does because of it's reduced folded length.
I can see why they shortened the deck. Still though. For me, the range is everything. The OG Max would still be my pick but then why spend the 800 when I can spend 300 more for the Zero 8 Pro w/ 21ah battery & seat?
In shoes I’m over 6ft and I wear size 12’s. One of my feet is more than half the deck size. This is too small for me. I just ordered the Xiaomi Essential to get me started then I’ll upgrade to a Ninebot when I’m ready for more speed and range.
That's why you don't drive like an asshole and have plenty of lights for night time and pay close attention when you're driving in the daytime. I have been writing electric scooters for over 5 years and never hit a pothole or got into an accident ebikes are a waste of money for what you get
This is helpful as I am 6ft tall. I am looking for my 1st scooter. I am a cyclist and surprised handlebar or stem height is fixed on scooters not adjustable. Anyway the Max (taller one) is looking like the best choice for me.
I'd go with the E45. The E45 is the evolution of the original Ninebot ES series. They improved everything. Dual density tires, front/rear brakes, front spring suspension makes a return. I owned the ES1. All of these upgrades plus the good parts of the ES should make it a top quality scooter. I only wish the E45 was available in the American market.
I'm happy with the g30 I'm not sure what lp means maybe light power, yeah distance is key to transport from electric powered vehicles I recommend pay extra for better as you get what ya pay for .
Thank you for the review. Just got an F30 for my teenage son, and wondering now if it was the best option. He likes to ride for a few hours at times, and the F30 has an 18 mile range, and no way to hook up am external battery. Are either of these Max scooters able to use an external battery, and which would you say would be better to just cruise on daily ? He's 150 lbs and growing currently. He wants to ride longer, and also add LED lights to it.
The F30 does seem like a solid scooter, so iffy on switching it. Just a little bummed it's very limited to what it is. Battery lasted him about 40 minutes, 10-15 miles while using it in all 3 modes trying it out.
It’s pretty good, but I weigh 172 lbs and carry around 20-30 pounds on me so I’m not surprised when it inches up hills. If I was 20 pounds lighter im sure it would do better
It seems so many ride these scooter even tho they weigh well over the 100 kg limit. I guess it is okey and it works finem but does it not take damage that you will see later? I also read somewhere that the scooter steal construction it self can take 700 KG....
I will voice my complaints, since no one else seems to have any. The cruise control is awkward and difficult. While I am thankful to have a rudimentary cruise control, let's not see past what it is, which is just that, a very rudimentary cruise control. The dedication one must have to hold the throttle precisely still for the amount of time it takes the G30 to register and activate cruise control, is maddening. If it is a bumpy road you may as well forget about having cruise control. I understand you put some buttons on the G2 for turn signals. These same buttons could go on the G30P/LP as cruise control +/- and SET buttons.
ETWOW geni.us/74l8?track=web is hard to beat for both of those things. The ride isn't the smoothest, because of the solid tires. But it's light, compact and fast. -Paul
Yes. These are built to take a beating. As with any scooter, jump enough curbs hard enough and you'll eventually break something, but this scooter is about as strong as scooters get, since it was designed for the sharing market.
Hello, i'm trying to figure out if i should by LP or not, but one thing worries me is slow acceleration. Is it possible to change by custom firmware? I mean, is it possible to configure to accelerate faster? Like, to have more fast start?
The issue is laws. Many places consider anything that goes 20km or faster as a motorcycle class vehicle, so you need a motorcycle license and insurance to ride something that fast in most places. All these scooters can do more than 20, they're just artificially limited so they don't fall into that category. But to be honest, +20mph is simply a dangerous speed to ride at when you're just standing on little more than a small moving platform on 2 wheels. Even 15mph is dangerous for crashes. Even 10mph can break bones. So really, these speed issues won't change much. If you want to go faster, that's what mopeds and motorcycles are for.
We don't have one coming our way, that I know of. We do have a Vsett 10+ coming though. The closest thing to the Vsett 8 that we have reviewed is the Splach Turbo: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XyKM0dEBfMU.html
