‘A Flying Tank’: Why the Mi-24 Is Called the World’s Only Assault Helicopter | WSJ Equipped 

Even comparing these 2 helis is embarrassing. Mi24 should be compared to MH-60(if I remember name correctly)

Exactly, it's like comparing a bus and a car, saying the car is better because it's faster. The two vehicles just weren't conceived for the same use

@@innelator6941 I'd doubt even that. The Mi-24 is unique in this case. Too assault for a light-armed transport heli, too underpowered for a comparison with the DAP modificiation but can keep the troop carrying function in anyway, the DAP doesn't carry troops. Also, when the Hind is full-loaded, it doesn't take off exactly vertically. It takes off almost plane style, requiring a runway

They talk about Russia upgrading their mi24’s and then show footage of an mi28 👍

Comparing the Hind and the Apache is even dumber when you compare how they fight The Apache stands off and attacks at a hover from afar shooting missiles, guided rockets, and it's gun The Hind on the other hand keeps moving. It uses its speed to come in and get out of a target area fast in order to confuse and scare the enemy with semi-surprise attacks. They're both designed for 2 very different styles of combat. The Apache could very much mimic this attack profile but it wouldn't have as much speed or armor to get that personal and the Hind could hover from afar but it's weapons don't have the range nor does the Hind have as good maneuverability from a hover to just drop below cover or start evading whatever enemy fire does come it's way.

will confess I too was a little thrown by the expert guy having like a 1:200 scale toy for a reference model. You'd imagine they have 1:20 models galore of all those soviet era types

This is the one that Ukraine still owns

He did not have an advance notice the reporter was coming.😂

I would have at least built a scale model. S m h....

It's like the reporter was like, "I'm not going to bring anything to this interview that won't fit in my pockets."

It’s probably the experts personal model, it’s a lot easier to explain to people with a simpler model

I imagine it was just sitt8ng on some office workers desk 😅

I can't tell the difference, there are jet engines, torpedoes, lazors and something something combobulator. I mean, close enough

real

Yeah

That's not even sort of what's happening, but sure. I'm guessing you assume the f14s the Iranians have are exactly the same as the ones we continually upgraded for 20 plus years after theirs were delivered 😂

The most hilarious part is you not hearing that they said that russian mi 24 are more sophisticated and there are more of them.

Yeah, nah, not really mate....I think it was more about Ukrainians doing what they can with what they've got.

What was it like being stationed in Germany in the 80s?

@@orion3253 Mostly? Drunk.

@@schlirf Nice.

Ahah, that's gold 😅

Who cares?

uuol strit žurnal

The Apache is a better heli along with the obvious fact these are outdated undertrained and not mass produced assault copters that can’t compete with Russia. Very glorified one sided view of this heli.

@@connerflowers7358 Comparing apples to oranges.

There is a privately owned ln the US

@@connerflowers7358no it isnt

​@@connerflowers7358ye apache is Great but can it ride a platoon of troops at the same time? I guess not. The US should really consider adopting a "Battle Taxi" Doctrine into their fleet. Since their current doctrine in regards of Rotary Combat AC is pretty much resource intensive that not many countries could follow or even adopt at the first place

Absolutely!

They did a few things really well. Most of it is trash.

​@@jj4791 es justo al revés amigo... Hicieron muchas cosas muy bien y algunas son basura igual pasa con el armamento occidental, la mayoria esta muy bien pero hay algunas cosas que son basura.. no todo puede ser perfecto, y algun armamento de un bando tiene ventajas en algunos aspectos sobre el bando contrario y viceversa.

@@jj4791most of it *isnt* trash

rockets can be guided, just saying

​@@timothy1949once a rocket is guided it becomes a missile. The only difference between rockets and missiles is does it have a guidance system or not

The rocket itself dosent have a guidence system but the pilot can have a sight that helps if firing somewhat accurate on longer distances or as a barrage.@@naizeylines

Yes, but that is only in English language usage. In some foreign languages there is no distinction as they may be missing either of the 2 words, or they have the same exact meaning. And what Battlefield 4 has thought me, is that Hydra 70 rocket can be turned into a precision guided munition (PGM, aka smart rockets), blurring the whole missile/rocket nomenclature, enough to be understanding of how others are using their language.

. No it can still be called a rocket..ie APKWS.

other vehicles have also been called "flying tanks" for a reason. The SU-25 can literally survive multiple hits from manpads and the KA-52 can survive AA guns and will still fly without its tail.

@blackmagnetica8714 I know those I just feel the phrase "flying tank" is a very widely used term like also the a10 il10 and a lot others

@@zerotheboxer tbf if an aircraft has enough armor you could reasonably call it a “flying tank”, and those aircraft have a lot of armor

The media has the same literary imagination as a spoon, not surprised.

No? They’ve been proven to be a flying tank, did you see the video of a KA-52 returning back to base without a tail? Did you see the video of a SU-25 tanking manpads and the plane still ends up delivering its support?

It's not that hard when you have engineers that "know" what they're doing, quit the meat riding.

@@THESECONDCOMINGOFCAGGTRO Next time you retrofit a soviet helicopter to not only carry but also fire American weapons I’ll make sure to downplay your achievement.

Why are you arguing with the fact I told you to stop glazing Ukraine for doing something that any good engineer can do@@chonkymonkey6988

I'd doubt that. The pre-Mi-35 modifications sport very weak targetting systems. I mean, they can barrage MLRS-style, but precision strikes with APKWS? Very doubtfully. You should see the stock YakB-12.7 machine gun targetting station. It didn't go anything near digital until the Russian Mi-35/Mi-35M with the GSh-23 cannon. They got thermals after that

@@sergeyalaev9393 that's exactly what I'm saying, they likely as reporters don't know the differences as they also made many mistakes about weapon loadouts for the guns of the Mi-24 so I wouldn't doubt if they are wrong

It's unique that's for sure

@@bulgaria_681you’re bulgarian? Cus i am

You don't know the definition of 'dedicated.' The Mi24 is COMPROMISED as an assault chopper because of its ability to carry troops. A Huey with missiles and guns is lethal but the military decided to build a dedicated assault version without the troops section to make it a smaller target and thus the Cobra was born.

@@toolbaggers Yea I know all of that. It's fine, Banjo

Perhaps it's the expert's personal model he's had since childhood that he carries around in his pocket and sleeps with underneath his pillow at night.

Soviet

​@@FVBmoviesthe soviets were who? Dutch???

@@justicehenrydamian475 Cluelessness is not a virtue. Many great engineers lived in Soviet occupied territories.

@@justicehenrydamian475

@@FVBmovies which of them created this helicopter? Say their names.

They are jerry rigging and modernizing weapons for themselves

@@smallpeople172 In garages.

@@attilamarics3374 I'm sure not always but a garage certainly helps lol

@@smallpeople172 Against a working military industry? Barely.

That’s exactly what they’re doing. You think 1990s British cruise missiles were meant to be fired from 1970s Soviet attack jets.

They are still there, just changed hats

When the Soviet Union fell, Russia's military engineers didn't evaporate

@@RatherCrunchyMuffin same people but different environment, like the big corporation you were working at suddenly disappearing now you work for a smaller company

@@RatherCrunchyMuffin guess what - the majority of the soviet union engineers were not russian :) they didn't evaporate, but they also did not all magically start working for russia after the fall of the soviet union

Soviet innovation is an oxymoron

Apache are too expensive even in India we have moved to indeginous attack heli prachand but our requirement is different also our heli fly in Himalayas where iaf apache couldn’t even reach

Apache is a sophisticated combat helicopter it's not a Toyota corolla. It requires a full team of technicians and other specialists for maintenance , repairs and support etc. Training a competent maintenance and suppoet crew takes years, also lets not forget pilot training. Not to mention the logistical support for spare parts and munitions among many other things. So yeah you can't just " hand" them a brand new piece of equipment and call it a day

@@liuyifei1989 And it blews my head off how Indonesain could equip both Russian and USA's helicopters. They got both Hind and Apache serving their Army Aviation.

@@pacedior yeah but I think there was a 4 year training and integration period tho.

@@liuyifei1989 Indeed. What makes me curious was how USA can approve a nation that not even their ally whose also equipping rival's armament to buy their sophisticated attack helicopter.

They did mention it. Briefly within ten seconds of the video. I guess your memory is no good?

@@toolbaggers The title says it will explain why it is the world's only assault helicopter. But they never explain it. They just say it is one, don't say what it means or does

You lot will be asking for an carrier group next year

@@Sunshine-sl3kr well, if you didnt took from us not inly nukes, but even conventional missiles, we wouldnt ask about anything

@@Sunshine-sl3kr and i bet you wont asking US unconditional support for Israel or other agressive undemocratic force in Middle East

I mean Ukraine has the T-80 and T-64s. Unlike what people think, Ukraine had a very good part in USSR armor and aircraft production

@@warbrain1053it did. The manufacturing industry of Ukraine lied in the East, in regions such as Kharkiv and Donbas. Kharkiv is under fire, so production is limited, if not nonexistent. And as for Donbas? Well, the majority of them are Russian now.

@@lucks4fools978 industrial production just shifted westward especially as Ukrainian air defenses are expanded by Western systems protecting Ukrainian population centers.

@@warbrain1053 The fact is that after the USSR was destroyed (not collapse, the country was simply destroyed), many military production facilities remained in Ukraine, ranging from tanks to shells. The aviation industry was there too. But the new leadership of Ukraine decided to destroy it all, steal and sell it. As a result, the military-industrial complex was strangely at a low level, and if they could produce anything, it was simply to modernize Soviet-era production equipment. And then in a single quantity. Дело в том, что после того как разрушили СССР (не распада, страну просто разрушили) на Украине осталось множество объектов военного производства, начиная от танков и заканчивая снарядами. Авиационная промышленность тоже была там. Но новое руководство Украины решило все это развалить, украсть и продать. В результате ВПК странно находился на низком уровне, и если и могли что-то производить, так это просто модернизировать производственное оборудование советских времен. И то в единичном количестве.

@Belgua_ZOV Refurbishment of stored T-72s is the overwhelming share of Russian monthly production as well. There is no significant production of tanks, only refurbishment in this war.

You're right. Iconic, among basic aviation enthusiasts or the general public. The Bell UH-1 Huey is possibly even more iconic, especially among a certain generation. It's even featured in Metallicas most famous song. Everybody on the planet knows that sound. Friend or foe. But nothing on the planet compares to the Jolly Green Giant. Sikorsky MH-53. ~ The Pave Low has $h!t the Hind ain't never seen before. The missions it accomplished would have been suicide in a Hind. Or Huey. Or maybe more iconic in look, and raw performance, is the tandem rotor Boeing CH-47 Chinook. Or the crazy steath tech of a Boeing-Sikorsky RAH-66 Comanche. It was so far ahead of its time, it was not even needed. Think F-22, in a Helicopter. It's stealth research was utilized in the Blackhawk mods for the Bin Laden raid.

@@jj4791 Bell uh huey? Never heard of her

Most attack helicopters do not have an ejection seat, most have a hardened shell around the crew. If the helicopter is hit the pilot has to crash land the helicopter and the hardened shell will protect the crew from the impact (it really depends on the situation how survivable being shot down is). However there is an exeption with the russian Kamov Ka-50 & 52, these helicopters have explosive charges on the rotor blades and when the helicopter is hit and the pilot ejects, these charges will blow of the rotors. Then explosive lines on the canopy blow away the glass and a rocket with a rope attached to the seat is fired up into the sky, pulling the pilot out of the helicopter. The effectivenes of the ejection seat is questionable at best because the explosive charges have a high likelihood of failing, especially with subpar russian maintenance. The combat effectiveness of these ejection seats has been put under alot of scrutiny in the war in ukraine, where the russian pilots rarely eject and in the cases where they do the system has not been very succesfull.

Does Ukraine have the Ka-52? That's a Russian attack helicopter

@@vervetech9395 who said it was ukrainian?

@@korencekis that why 60+ have been shot down?

@@jb76489 wishful thinking.

Mi-24V replaced Mi-24D. D is from 1972, V started in 1975. Is that from a game or something ? The one on video is Mi-24P, made from 1981.

It took me 3 shots in Peacewalker

Kyiv, go and try to take.

@@toolbaggers ожидайте

@@mEDIUMGap waiting 2 years now

Everything for them is game changer. I mean they need to lie to everybody to steal even more $$$

That's like a feather weight fighter against a heavy weight.

Let have apache

No more

So u basically want to see A-10 and F16 being shot down?

We have given them ATACMS missiles, just not enough.

Just like almost every helicopter with a tail rotor?

It's his personal toy that he sleeps with.

The only thing worth understanding is that the United States overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine and turned it into a pro-American nazi hellhole

well its a good thing we aren't selling them to Russia

​@@SizzleCorndogsad to say they have their own manpads equivalent to stingers

Afghanistan are mountainous, stingers operator well hidden and can reach it altitude quickly Not so much in Ukraine

@@ralpjosephjavelosa7451 The Verba is, in fact, much better than Stingers.

@@boiboiboi1419 Actually, it's easy to hide for MANPAD teams in Ukrainian landscape because of the dense overgrowth. MANPADS have fairly long range. Pilots usually don't see they're being targeted by infantry from miles even when it's on a flat desert. MANPADS have been very effective in Ukraine, but Russian helicopers have better countermeasures than they did in Afganistan. They have systems that can blind seeker heads with laser beams, but these have blind spots.

ye russia has 10x as many hinds as ukraine and many of them are probaly more modernized than ukraine

Так WSJ деньги уплочены только чтоб напяливать корону на вооруженные силы украины, и не на какие другие армии. Только украинская армия "самая лучшая" - такой "заказ". Или ты всерьёз считаешь WSJ хорошими экспертами по вооружениям? Та я тебя умоляю... 😂 За что заплатили, то они поют.

The most modern and capable mi24 variants are not operated by Russia or Ukraine, many former block countries have modernized mi24’s greatly in effort to westernize and improve the platform.

You're wrong about Russia, Russia has plenty. But foreign countries are adding western equipment onto the already modernized aircraft, take the Super Hind for example.@@Rutherfordium2023

Lol

We all saw how russia did simular excercices. Only to get slaughtered when tested

Most of the footage shows Hind P variant, distinguishable by the Gsh23 double barreled cannon on the right side of the helicopter

Well, in bf2042 is super hind

Pretty sure they haven't played Midway 1942 either

Too late,it seems, like they will lose lots of territories, and will be extremely poor. Future is dark

True,but that’s just propaganda from both sides