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‘Apple Could Never Make Anything as Shitty as the Things I Make:’ Artist Tom Sachs 

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Do you want to build a rocket ship but don't have the deep pockets of Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, and Richard Branson?
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You might want to turn to the Rocket Factory, "a trans-dimensional manufacturing plant" created by artist Tom Sachs, in which you can build and own a personalized rocket in both the physical and virtual world. The project is one of the most inventive uses of NFTs, a groundbreaking technology that makes digital items one-of-a-kind by giving them a unique code that can't be duplicated or forged. It stands at the intersection of cryptocurrency, the metaverse, and persistent human longing for the new frontier. You create a unique rocket online that gets minted as an NFT, he builds a meatspace replica and launches it, and you decide what happens next to the art.
Sachs' ongoing project makes use of the new form of digital commons called the blockchain, which is the shared public database that make it possible to prove that you and you alone own an NFT; of the metaverse, or the 3D virtual world where some believe a great deal of human interaction will soon be migrating; and of our persistent longing for a new frontier, all of which are characteristics of what is often referred to as web3-the next phase in the evolution of the internet.
Sachs is an internationally recognized artist and sculptor best known for making painstakingly realistic reproductions of familiar objects that exist in the real world. One of his most acclaimed projects, for instance, included creating a scale replica of Le Corbusier's modernist housing project The Radiant City out of foamcore. Other memorable pieces include creating a full-scale model of the atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki and, in a nod to Andy Warhol, a series of shipping boxes for household items such as Kellogg's corn flakes, Brillo pads, and Heinz ketchup. Long obsessed with space flight, he has created three different "Space Program" installations, each of which represents what it means to fly to the moon, Mars, and beyond.
Reason's Nick Gillespie spoke with Sachs in his studio in Manhattan's Soho neighborhood to talk about the role of psychedelics in his creative process, how the internet has radically flattened and improved the relationship between artist and audience, and why his meticulously handcrafted NFT rockets can be just as exciting, innovative, and inspiring as the ones made by Bezos, Musk, and Branson.

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@mikef7707
@mikef7707 2 года назад
This has got to be one of the most idiotic business ventures I've ever seen. I bet it will make millions of dollars
@Slavolko
@Slavolko 2 года назад
I'll take your entire (non-fungible) stock!
@carloweis
@carloweis 2 года назад
Thus it's not idiotic.
@canadude6401
@canadude6401 Год назад
@@MarkStoddard just be careful backing out of the garage m-kay
@JourneysADRIFT
@JourneysADRIFT 2 года назад
"NFTs" Immediately stops watching
@Zypher77777
@Zypher77777 2 года назад
THANK YOU
@tann_man
@tann_man 2 года назад
NFTs have some limited utility and will probably have more in the future but this guy ain’t it.
@TXGRunner
@TXGRunner 2 года назад
...or I can buy an Estes kit, build a way bigger rocket for a fraction of the cost and put decals on it for whatever brand I want. ...oh, and I'll have the sense of accomplishment knowing I built the rocket.
@ferulebezel
@ferulebezel 2 года назад
I remember in the 70s when a guy in Los Gatos packaged an ordinary rock in a pet carrier looking box labelled "pet rock". He got rich. Of course everyone knew it was a gag.
@Foolish188
@Foolish188 2 года назад
Gag? My pet rock is the best behaved pet I have ever had. Told it to sit almost fifty years ago and it is still sitting.
@FathomFrequency
@FathomFrequency 2 года назад
@@Foolish188 🤣
@RoyGBiv-lc8tv
@RoyGBiv-lc8tv 2 года назад
Conservatives need to rise up and demand Biden and his goons to be ousted! The election was obviously stolen! This is not the way God intended it! MAGA 2024! At this point, violence is a necessity!
@FathomFrequency
@FathomFrequency 2 года назад
@@RoyGBiv-lc8tv( love that name btw) - there is an old adage I would have applied here...but hallmark cards are out of style and outdated. Are you ready to mow down your neighbors over clear voting fraud and malfeasance? Or are you new to how long this has been going on? ...or are you a simple paid troll looking for a reaction?
@arkansaslibertarian5051
@arkansaslibertarian5051 2 года назад
Can we just get some more Remy, please?
@mattaz2315
@mattaz2315 2 года назад
PT Barnum allegedly said "There is a sucker born every minute." This guy is obviously after every one of them. Perhaps the worst video ever on Reason!
@QuadCloudNine
@QuadCloudNine 2 года назад
Seconded.
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater 2 года назад
NFTs aren't market driven and are propped up by the Fed. Reason isn't very Libertarian.
@jacobawojtowicz
@jacobawojtowicz 2 года назад
@@tuckerbugeater NFTs are propped up by the fed directly? Because technically everything is held up by the fed indirectly right now...Care to elaborate?
@jeanniemaycrawford4466
@jeanniemaycrawford4466 2 года назад
Really? Nfts? Bruh, you're a scammer
@resmarted
@resmarted 2 года назад
I made one of those in 8th grade. Painted it too. Didn't do anything as moronic as an NFT tho.
@sephil
@sephil Год назад
It's all about execution
@SuperFinGuy
@SuperFinGuy 2 года назад
NFT's more like No F***ing Thanks
@SGCXD
@SGCXD 2 года назад
The opportunity to separate fools from their money will never end.
@michaeljohnson1761
@michaeljohnson1761 2 года назад
I saw his space exposition at Site Santa Fe i 2017. Whimsical, Detailed, Serious. Incredible. Love his work.
@TheRealWinser
@TheRealWinser 2 года назад
Stop promoting NFT scams.
@RiverheadSkate
@RiverheadSkate 2 года назад
Says he doesn't make art for collectors, and then the program immediately goes into his NFT COLLECTION, to be COLLECTED by....... COLLECTORS.
@RiverheadSkate
@RiverheadSkate 2 года назад
By the way, he has made installations for -- you guessed it -- MUSEUMS which he also claims not to do.
@MasterArkannor
@MasterArkannor 2 года назад
5:42 *holds up 4 fingers *realises *hmm, I better go whole hand with this before they ask me if I'm on something
@EdwardTCBlake
@EdwardTCBlake 2 года назад
"Immediately change the channel and do something else." Okay.
@MarcelEnglmaier_1
@MarcelEnglmaier_1 2 года назад
Dude this guy is just selling model rockets and selling them. Convince me i’m wrong
@jacobawojtowicz
@jacobawojtowicz 2 года назад
But you can also own his Microsoft paint sketch of the rocket.
@headpump
@headpump 2 года назад
Ah, the great NFT ponzi scheme. Web3 is a bubble.
@Interopader
@Interopader 2 года назад
I still don't get the purpose of NFTs. Never have I had a piece of art on my wall and thought I need a collectable digital version of this.
@Paul_Marek
@Paul_Marek 2 года назад
A better explanation of NFT that will make sense in the near future is “executable digital contracts”. Real estate will be sold by NFT soon.
@Interopader
@Interopader 2 года назад
@@Paul_Marek And so would the real estate NFT cost the value of the property?
@Paul_Marek
@Paul_Marek 2 года назад
@@Interopader it’s no different than a regular real estate transaction except now instead of a paper sales contract and deed, it’s digital on the blockchain. All of the terms of the deal and any subsequent transactions are coded right into the NFT (digital contract), which gets executed automatically. Think of it as a list of “if this happens then do that” statements built right in. Pretty much everything will be sold as an NFT in future because of the simplistic executability and security. It’s too bad the digital art space has sorta bastardized the understanding of the potential and need for moving things toward NFTs. We should drop that name and instead call them EDCs (executable digital contracts).
@Paul_Marek
@Paul_Marek 2 года назад
@@Interopader to answer your question another way, is it the paper deed that holds the value of real estate, or the property itself? ;) Lol that’s a deep one!
@Interopader
@Interopader 2 года назад
@@Paul_Marek So a digital contract makes sense. But NFTs worth millions makes no sense. What needs to be executed automatically in the real estate example?
@harrisonsmith1556
@harrisonsmith1556 2 года назад
I thought this dude was borderline cringe when he was talking about NFTs. By the end of the video it is clear he went full cringe and either has no self-awareness or he's so high on his own supply he just doesn't care. Neither are good lol. He contributes nothing.
@cjpenning
@cjpenning 2 года назад
I think the people gung-ho about NFTs just get a thrill when someone else buys into their BS.
@crissd8283
@crissd8283 2 года назад
It is like a pyramid scheme but instead of being built on a really weak product, it is based on nothing.
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater 2 года назад
@@crissd8283 It's based on the Federal Reserves monetary policy. The market doesn't want this or cryptocurrency.
@crissd8283
@crissd8283 2 года назад
@@tuckerbugeater Are you saying that people don't trust the fed so much that they have more trust in NFTs and crypto? They are picking between two bad options and the fed is worse than NFTs? If that is what you are saying then I kinda agree with you.
@MaiElizabeth
@MaiElizabeth 3 месяца назад
Now we know where Casey got the phrase "Ideas are cheap, execution is everything"
@SilencerNate
@SilencerNate 2 года назад
This has got to be one of the most weird interviews Reason has ever done. Part of the video I was trying to decide if this guy was a genius or a lunatic. By the time he starts discussing motherships, and computers working inside his butt or whatever, its cleared the latter.
@jacobawojtowicz
@jacobawojtowicz 2 года назад
The best geniuses are often lunatics.
@JD2jr.
@JD2jr. 2 года назад
@@jacobawojtowicz But the majority of lunatics are not actually geniuses.
@breppbrepp
@breppbrepp 2 года назад
Why choose, call it an artist
@Winford.Studios
@Winford.Studios 2 года назад
hes both, but mainly a lunatic
@lightsnaketv
@lightsnaketv 2 года назад
this guys is not an artist ,he is a scamer
@TheRealBrook1968
@TheRealBrook1968 2 года назад
My cousin lived on a farm and we would order Estes rocket parts from the comic book back page and fire them in a field.
@romanspataro1688
@romanspataro1688 Год назад
great interview
@AnonEMoose-mr8jm
@AnonEMoose-mr8jm 2 года назад
Just another way for a fool to be parted with his money.
@bikinggreg
@bikinggreg 2 года назад
Remember, back in the day, when you'd save your allowance, buy and assemble your own rocket kit, and then launch it yourself?
@austinburgess8983
@austinburgess8983 2 года назад
it's Tom sachs, it would be an amazing to have something he built personally
@jonathanwallers4546
@jonathanwallers4546 2 года назад
Something tells me the "Return RU-vid Dislike" add-on will be useful on this video.
@Standbackforscience
@Standbackforscience Месяц назад
2 minutes in and so damned disappointed Tom Sachs has gotten stuck in the NFT swamp. Changing the channel.
@motnosniv
@motnosniv 2 года назад
1 + 1 = 1,000,000? Dude is wack. Not surprising that he's on drugs.
@skwest
@skwest 2 года назад
Finish this sentence: "A fool and his money are soon _____"
@janetdupree6353
@janetdupree6353 2 года назад
Brilliant. Tom is the bomb!
@michellesimonds7723
@michellesimonds7723 2 года назад
Thanks for posting this interview. It was interesting!
@crissd8283
@crissd8283 2 года назад
While I believe people should be able to spend their money on whatever they want. Even if it is a worthless NFT, it is your time and your money so do what you want. I personally wouldn't spend a cent to do this. I would much rather build a real rocket with my son but to each his own. It isn't my place to decide where you spend your money, this is a strange reasonTV episode.
@williemherbert1456
@williemherbert1456 2 года назад
NFT is even worse than worthless, they have no worth at all, you buy those things but you would never own anything at all, just a waste of money for something that's imaginative unrealistic that couldn't be utilized more than fine art that at least still could be functioned as unique decoration in a space, as valueless as crypto-currency at the end of the day when it stopped being used as black market currency, instead used as if they're reliable investment by the normies.
@64maxpower
@64maxpower 2 года назад
What am I missing?
@HolographicSweater
@HolographicSweater 2 года назад
This was a lot more true when he started saying it in 2005
@vaclavjebavy5118
@vaclavjebavy5118 2 года назад
I can't afford to go to the circus, so I watch ReasonTV.
@acctsys
@acctsys 2 года назад
Looks like an expensive form of entertainment to me. It doesn't look scummy as it doesn't seem to be the "investment" NFTs. Still, it doesn't appeal to me.
@jingles123456789ify
@jingles123456789ify 2 года назад
I don't understand this whatsoever
@levvayner4509
@levvayner4509 2 года назад
"makes digital items one of a kind" I am not an expert, but I am fairly certain that anything digital can be easily copied if you have access to the data. For example DVD had some mechanism for write protection, but it was quickly bypassed. Games have all sorts of ways to prevent piracy, and yet cracks exist for every game. The only thing NFT does is say "I legally own this particular set of 1s and 0s" which is based on dubious assumptions and unenforceable. The only enforceable part is the exchange/sale of those digital items in established markets that may check NFT ownership before allowing a sale.
@patrickhemus8102
@patrickhemus8102 2 года назад
The tech behind making an NFT unique and unable to be copied is blockchain and cryptography. I’d love into those before assuming.
@predtime
@predtime 2 года назад
I honestly think I misunderstood something toward the end. Where is this guy coming up with peanut butter in Mars rocks?
@moribundmurdoch
@moribundmurdoch 2 года назад
Are NFTs just an informal copyright system that doesn't really work. I never really liked copyright in the first place? ROFL MDR LOL. I love tokenized stocks & asset-backed tokens, but I don't think NFTs are useful yet. This is an interesting way to use NFTs though.
@moribundmurdoch
@moribundmurdoch 2 года назад
@_____ Yeah, it just appears to be some dude's nerd project. IDK why ReasonTV is covering it besides maybe their penchant for NFTS: IDK I think they'd made their own NFTs of their staff before.??
@edwardferry8247
@edwardferry8247 Год назад
The dude is interested in making money, he’s from the same cloth as Koons. That’s cool but to deny it from the outset kind of sucks.
@grraadd
@grraadd 2 года назад
thank you - no. from pushing BTC global con to nft - even more conjobby BS, but brand new. Worth watching first will be: "Line Goes Up - The Problem With NFTs"
@driesdeblock2901
@driesdeblock2901 4 месяца назад
This is the least Tom Sachs Tom Sachs project ever...
@wenloongg
@wenloongg 2 года назад
The neistat brothers’ sensei
@JasonFiske
@JasonFiske 2 года назад
You had me at Tom Sachs. Love it!
@juliancate7089
@juliancate7089 2 года назад
I got two minutes in before laughing at the seriousness given to NFTs in general and artists using NFTs to hype their garbage.
@j_shelby_damnwird
@j_shelby_damnwird 2 года назад
The West is toast
@jackspruceiii3920
@jackspruceiii3920 2 года назад
I completely agree with Mr. Edward T.C. Blake and Mr. Dapper Dan ... having unfortunately met and having had to work for Mr. Poisonous Dwarf. To the "hypocrisy and arrogance" comments of D.Dan, I would add "obnoxious, obsessively narcissistic, condescending, and massively idiotic". And as Mr. Blake comments ... I agree. The only half-way intelligent words I ever heard come out of Shorty's mouth were; "Immediately change the channel and do something else."
@07serda
@07serda 2 года назад
This is not REASON able.
@silveravnt
@silveravnt 2 года назад
High everyone!
@ManCave1972
@ManCave1972 Год назад
It’s bollocks, of course. NFT was never going to amount to anything and it’s dead before it ever became anything meaningful. Utter bollocks.
@edgewyze7352
@edgewyze7352 2 года назад
I make digital art. I don't want lizard "money" for it.
@rgb3304
@rgb3304 2 года назад
His work has been pretty cool in the past, but this is just stupid.
@ProductBasement
@ProductBasement 2 года назад
What the heck did I just watch
@SDsc0rch
@SDsc0rch 2 года назад
"multidimensional" I don't think it means what you think it means
@TECHN01200
@TECHN01200 2 года назад
On the basis of how NFTs work, I do not see how they are any different to a normal database except instead of the database being entirely hidden, it is out and in the public. I see NFTs only really being useful in applications where the data is stored on the NFT and not just as a link to some data that someone else actually hosts and secondly, that there is actually a need to have this data be completely transparent.
@EricGranata
@EricGranata 2 года назад
NFTs are like getting a star named after you. You don’t own the star. Nor do you really own the right to say it is exclusively yours. What you’ve bought is your name next to an entry in the star registry’s database. NFTs are that but the database is visible to everyone.
@joshwent
@joshwent 2 года назад
@@EricGranata This is fantastically incorrect
@EricGranata
@EricGranata 2 года назад
@@joshwent teach me.
@nickwilson3499
@nickwilson3499 2 года назад
@@EricGranata from what I understand people use them (in theory at least) as digital contracts or proof of ownership just like a deed to a house. That doesn't mean that buying bad art of monkeys isn't dumb.
@EricGranata
@EricGranata 2 года назад
@@nickwilson3499 what’s the point, though? What benefit is there for a deed to be recorded on the blockchain?
@TheRisky9
@TheRisky9 2 года назад
The technology behind NFTs are not inherently bad. It has a lot of uses. For example, an artist could assign an official NFT to their physical artwork before it's sold, which would allow future potential owners and sellers to easily prove provenance. And this would be a powerful, private sector tool to protect consumers. Comic books, coins, and other collectables that have been graded and authenticated could also use this technology.
@skippityblippity8656
@skippityblippity8656 2 года назад
Dont tell marvel about this
@Timboykee
@Timboykee 2 года назад
Can we use NFT technology to verify votes in elections?
@joefunsmith
@joefunsmith 2 года назад
Whether NFT or other blockchain/crypto schema, it would be incredible. The goal being, an individual can verify their vote was cast and counted as intended, officials can verify they voted, but more extreme steps need to be taken for officials to verify who or what you voted for, example: multiple keyholders to reduce shenanigans. Election officials would be able to see aggregate data. I'm very much a novice on the outside looking at this, but worth more inspection.
@MrTomservo85
@MrTomservo85 2 года назад
The future is stupid
@freesk8
@freesk8 2 года назад
I hope he sells a lot of rockets! :)
@Phantom8589
@Phantom8589 2 года назад
NFT's are things sold by people who don't own them. Personally I never recommend getting an NFT.
@DarkHorseSki
@DarkHorseSki 2 года назад
NFT's are just as stupid as crypto currency.
@sumatrican5990
@sumatrican5990 2 года назад
50/50 because only two people have bought lol
@I.dont.think.you.understand
@I.dont.think.you.understand 2 года назад
Awesome vid. Love that these two great minds met. For those claiming you can just go build your own...way to state the obvious. Take the time to look more into Tom's work; you'll find out very quickly there is literally nothing more "Tom Sachs" than going out and "making one yourself." That's precisely what his Art is all about.
@JacobAnawalt
@JacobAnawalt 2 года назад
What do you call a few “rules for life” mixed with philosophy and a grift?
@cellardoor7500
@cellardoor7500 2 года назад
3 dimensions and all 3 are boring AF.
@mundaneallaround
@mundaneallaround 2 года назад
Money laundering is an art.
@resmarted
@resmarted 2 года назад
You don't know what money laundering is.
@mundaneallaround
@mundaneallaround 2 года назад
www.
@mundaneallaround
@mundaneallaround 2 года назад
artandobject.
@mundaneallaround
@mundaneallaround 2 года назад
com
@mundaneallaround
@mundaneallaround 2 года назад
/news/how-money-laundering-works-art-world
@jacobawojtowicz
@jacobawojtowicz 2 года назад
Lots of hate in the comments....i was all about "you do you" for this guy until he said ketamine was a safer version of acid.
@VincentFischer
@VincentFischer 2 года назад
I hear NFT i close the tab
@WhoTube277
@WhoTube277 2 года назад
What?
@kc4276
@kc4276 2 года назад
Can he build me a McNuke NFT?
@fernchanjan733
@fernchanjan733 2 года назад
I guess Tom couldn't help himself from getting wrapped up with idiotic NFT projects.
@SDsc0rch
@SDsc0rch 2 года назад
explain why this guy is NOT eminently narcissistic
@larrydugan1441
@larrydugan1441 2 года назад
DUH?
@lisandroCT
@lisandroCT 2 года назад
Buddy, your neurons are freaking out and you're imagining a transcendental experience. There's nothing trascendental about it. 😂
@SDsc0rch
@SDsc0rch 2 года назад
absurd
@SDsc0rch
@SDsc0rch 2 года назад
a fool and his money..........
@thelaurens1996
@thelaurens1996 2 года назад
This guy actually has some interesting views and ideas.
@skippityblippity8656
@skippityblippity8656 2 года назад
I really enjoyed this interview The guy seems to be very aware of himself and articulate in his philosophy
@Vlfkfnejisjejrjtjrie
@Vlfkfnejisjejrjtjrie 2 года назад
He kmows how to sell a polished turd.
@quirkyturtle4896
@quirkyturtle4896 2 года назад
I would like to see LESS of this content.
@cellardoor7500
@cellardoor7500 2 года назад
N 🤢 F 🤢 T 🤮
@bruceh3905
@bruceh3905 2 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@watts391
@watts391 2 года назад
A.B.K.
@ferulebezel
@ferulebezel 2 года назад
Gillespie's English major background is showing. Reason is getting infected with post modernism/critical theory to the degree that it is starting to resemble Wired.
@Muonium1
@Muonium1 2 года назад
thanks for reminding me how much I hate wanky avant-garde artist crap. 👍🏻
@bencruz563
@bencruz563 2 года назад
This guy is right about intillectual property.
@bille77
@bille77 Год назад
A tad too moronic for my taste.
@arikwolf3777
@arikwolf3777 2 года назад
What a rip-off. Just order an Estes model rocket and build and launch it yourself...for about a $100.
@D00kerT
@D00kerT 2 года назад
Interesting guy but the catch phrase part just had me rolling my eyes. “Dont be creative!”. Ok dude.
@conradbamboozled1653
@conradbamboozled1653 2 года назад
Cringe
@TrevmiceterZ
@TrevmiceterZ 2 года назад
Why are y'all calling this a scam? The project is very clear in their intentions and it is a voluntary exchange. I think a lot people can't get past the Monkey JPEG idea of NFTs when it can be so much bigger than that. Verifying ownership of JPEGs are just the easiest implementation of their use, so of course they were implemented first. Tom Sachs is creatively expanding upon the space and I think it's cool. I'm not willing to spend the money on it, but it seems enough people are. They want to be a part of the Sachs' project, so let them.
@user-nh3gu1ge3d
@user-nh3gu1ge3d 2 года назад
A lot of people are scammed in a "voluntary exchange". It sure looks like a bs scam to me, I guess time will tell. Would you consider pet rocks to be a scam? People voluntarily bought them...
@Vlfkfnejisjejrjtjrie
@Vlfkfnejisjejrjtjrie 2 года назад
@@user-nh3gu1ge3d people knew pet rock was a gag and never paid millions for one...This is a scam for the naive...so be it.
@23wtb
@23wtb 2 года назад
Love copyright law? Well what if we could apply copyrights to literally anything you could see with your eye.
@truss508
@truss508 2 года назад
No offense, but the only guy I know who can make shittier products than apple is Tom.... Green! Tom Green! And let's be real, I don't even know the guy who's the subject of this video, so he better produce some really grade A quality good shit... If that makes any sense..... 😂😂😂😆🤣
@truss508
@truss508 2 года назад
@@afdkj ...... And this guy is making a claim like he's more shittier than apple?! 😆 He seems like a legitimately decent guy. I'm a little disappointed, but in a weird way. I thought someone like him was going to outdo apple, you know, the company that even though they help poor people in China have jobs to begin with, the poor people are also overworked and have suicide nets at those factories just in case. It could of made Tom green look like some profound artist, which in a way he achieved what most people wouldn't have thought possible, but l don't necessarily know if he was even trying to be profound. Actually on second thought, I'd rather he didn't become shittier than apple. If he's doing a good enough job at spreading ideas of liberty, he's alright in my book ☺️
@jayvonnoelsmith8445
@jayvonnoelsmith8445 2 года назад
Amazing
@Dan16673
@Dan16673 2 года назад
Lol nft. Gtfoh
@johncgibson4720
@johncgibson4720 2 года назад
You can catch a Russian private ranked soldier, video him for 15 seconds, and get more views than this.
@timsexton
@timsexton 2 года назад
12:40 - Now we're talking, baby!! I've certainly wandered about my fair share of k-hole collectives. The rest of the interview... Meh
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