It's not about 750 watts. Simply make it safe driving behavior which are laws that are already exist. Speeding stunts Etc have no place on Public streets. I have a powerful ebike and drive it at about 20 miles an hour because that's safe. Unless you want a ban all cars that go over 65?
if that Jetski-Motorscooter rider happened to get his shoes/feet stopped/stuck on uneven surface while in motion or rolling, his may be seriously injured or feet cut off by the plastic-fairing
Thank you Augie! That's the truth, parents need to take more responsibility! It's not only about your children's life, you have to consider the lives of others too!
The ones that are causing trouble are electric dirt bikes like the Surron, these are not E-bikes, hike the minimum age for E-bikes to 16, like here in Quebec.
Ebikes are a convenient scapegoat to point fingers at rather than enforcing existing laws. Why blame the parent who bought their young kid a bike that can go 60mph when you can blame the bike itself instead?
Only in Hawaii, would they outlaw a bike for a kid! We have an electric bike that goes 20 miles an hour. It’s fantastic, we’re older and cannot pedal all damn day! If kids are riding too fast, then find a way to license them like a motorcycle, but they’re not dangerous unless you are reckless. They’re fantastic and one of the best inventions in our century.
Do you guys have bike lanes in Hawaii? In SF, there are tons of bike lanes and there are hardly ever any accidents or complaints about ebikes and they are everywhere. We just don't share the same lanes as cars which is probably the reason why there are hardly any reported accidents.
I ride ebikes and bicycles everyday neither one makes any noise cars make the most noise in a city drivers are so stupid and reporters for defending the car drivers
Trying to make rules for people who don't really need rules. They are bikes. leave the kids alone. Go after real criminals. Go find the Missing people from Lahaina 2000 still missing. Bikes real aren't an issue. Give the people of Lahaina back their lands.
Ive seen how these kids drive, they have no regards to other people. They drive like maniacs. And when is a better time to learn them a few rules than while they are still young. So many americans could have needed this while they were young. Look at them now.
Communities need to hold more Town Hall/Q & A meetings. With Hawaii's "perfect" year-round riding weather, kids >15y/o are crawling all over highways, side roads & trails. Got in touch w/my City Council rep., asking for the same thing that Augie is initiating. Prayers going out to Ascuncion family...I've been where Uncle is & it's No fun! Looong Road to Recovery
Way too many cars in Hawaii increasing road maintenence as it is. Some are too heavy & overaized for the roads as much as they are unecessary as one person driving a large truck or SUV not for work, but to get around, so why not an electric bike? Oahu has good transit to help reduce car traffic. Maybe peoole should try to find alternatives to driving, maybe improve their overall health at the same time. So please stop picking on & harrasing people that have solved problems with traffic congestion & health. Also be a better driver, & be aware of everyine outaide your car, not just other cars.
I swear some Hawaii residents grumble about everything! Then the wonder why they can’t do anything because of the ridiculous laws they put in place. Aunty worried about wheelies? Typical Karen kine stuff. More and more I’m glad I moved.
Mopeds are required safety checks and a driver's license. Kids are riding e bikes on the road with no knowledge of right of way or traffic laws. Plain and simple it is not safe for children to be riding on the roads
how about they do more than one thing at a time? just because they are attempting to deal with one issue doesn't mean they push everything else of the table ffs.
Why are the politicians and news media trying to address things that don't affect me? Don't they know that if it doesn't affect me then it doesn't matter? Why bother with anything other that what I include in my life? Jesus how stupid are they?
If the law is difficult to understand, then it cannot be a law! Laws are supposed to be very easy to understand. Period! Statutes, codes, rules, regulations, edicts, or ordinances are NOT law, but colorable law which NEEDS your consent, in order to be applicable! No consent=No law! Know your Rights, or you’ll have NONE!
Really, Mililani has alot of them riding on the sidewalk. a few times, I almost got run over by one. Hope the HOA step up and take action. We do pay fees.
they're confusing e bikes with e moto. e bikes are electric bicycles. e motos are electric motorcycles. some might have pedals but you can't pedal them like an electric bicycle or e bike. by their definition, the surron you see at the start of the video is illegal. 🤔they should sort that out first instead of grouping them together like that. class 3 faster e motos can be regulated differently than e bicycles/e bikes.
If they are just dying to make some more laws , how about restricting under age riders in some way. Teens running around irresponsibly these things is the main complaint in my opinion. Limiting everyones use of ebikes would be counterproductive. Jmo.
the problem is evident in the video provided... those aren't ebikes, they're e motorcycles/mopeds that are being called e bicycles.. e motorcycles and mopeds are manufactured to make enough noise so you can hear them coming, for safety.. in my area that is part of the law, they HAVE TO make noise for safety of pedestrians.. they need to change the laws to make these what they are, which is NOT an ebike... every actual ebike i have seen is very quiet, and won't go nearly as fast as an e motorcycle or moped...
I've seen old people, we talking in the 90s almost taken out by young kids in my neighborhood, get a quiet road on the side but the kids always flying up and down the sidwalk instead.
there is a lot of confusion on what is legal and illegal in the UK as well, not sure why. there have been reddit posts from the UK with ebikes with throttles and motors more powerful than 250 watts and people think they are legal here, but unfortunately they'll get taken off you if you're caught with them and you'll never see them again. I'd just like for them to loosen the laws on speed limits for ebikes. 15.5mph is baby slow.
How come the State not requiring these electric bikes to have insurance?? If anything goes on the roadways that means it should have insurance and be registered every year. I’m telling you guys whoever makes these laws are stupid. Not just stupid but they are just straight stupid.
People are concerned about ebikes? And NOT mopeds or dirt bikes on our roads? They mopeds and dirt bikes spew noxious fumes and make TONS of noise! Leave e-bikes alone! This incessant, backward demonizing of new technology is idiotic.
Wrong. This is just a greedy way to take away something fun from the People... You took the land... You took their independance... You took their food... Took their water... Now taking away there bikes?
Pedals don't matter, you can have a completely legal e pedal bike and upgrade it to go over 60mph, it's all about riding safe, i can ride my eride pro 11mph and get in trouble but a super 73 going 40mph doesn't get bothered, definition of surrounded by idiots
The "complex" part that was not even addressed by the journalist is that there are e-bikes that have 750 watt electronic lockouts but their internal motors and battery system can actually handle more, a lot more. And there's a backdoor that allows the operator to exceed this limit with a couple of button manipulations. They can go back and forth on it. So they can remain in compliance and be on the road with the lockout on, and can even show that to be the case. But again, the operator can defeat it and unlock well over a thousand watts if they wanted to.
mad kids dont play outside anymore. theyre finally outside again. “the barely audible ebike noises piss me off. lets ban em”. LET THEM PLAY!!! or would u rather they hop on some 2-strokes?
its not the e-Bikes fault its the PARENTS FAULT. and NOISE complaint!?! lol brah trust me u ever had a Mynah bird nest next to your bedroom window DATS a noise😊
People need to choose their battles. Either you have gas bikes way louder doing the same thing or you have ebikes. Do you want no bikes at all? Do you want bikes only in certain places? People who are against them present the problem but never present a solution nor have they any idea what it's like to even ride one of these. Who are you concerned for, the safety of yourself from wheelies or the safety of those doing the wheelies? If its the safety for those doing it, leave them alone thats their own perogative. If its for your safety, go get on an ebike and see how much fun you are missing out on and educate yourself so that you have valid arguments. We can't have people who have never riden one, never sat on one, telling us what we should be doing with them because they just don't understand. I admit these can get pretty fast but so can motorcycles and we don't ban those and they are much more dangerous. And how do you have noise concerns about ebikes and not for anything else... Really?.... And the argument with the 12 year old riding an ebike and criticaly injured could be anyone on any bike, there is an agenda here presenting those facts to sway people to believe these things are the most dangerous bikes, it's like any other bike. If you don't know how to ride it, obvioulsy you are going to get hurt which is unfortunate.
Its against the law? So why isnt it enforced more ??!because i see kids that look way younger than 15 all over the damn roads with there ebikes. I guess well just wait when its too late 🤷🏻♂️
