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I COMPLETELY agree!

Catharine was the only one he loved!

I think he would agree she was the best Queen, but not the best wife.

@@justanothergoogler6436 I think he really loved Jane Seymour and if she hadn’t have died, that would be his last wife.

100 percent true

... They would make her worse then she was so no.... Even tho i would enjoy a series about her

She’s vastly overlooked and set up on propaganda I would not mind a mary tutor story either as long as they portrayed her kindly cuz I doubt she was as evil as everyone acts I mean it’s not like she joined the boys club with hitler and Stalin it’s still as far as I know a boys club .

Three Sisters, Three Queens is after this but the book played this in the series. The Other Boleyn Girl is the sequel, followed by The Boleyn Inheritance

Romola Garai's Mary I carried Becoming Elizabeth. She was so compelling and a second season is looking doubtful but I would love to see her throw down the Dudleys and take the throne.

Starz did Elizabeth 1 AGAIN, and they just got done doing Catherine Medici (I'm not spelling that right). Mary 1 should be next, I really want to see her story. Romola Garai stole the show in Becoming Elizabeth, I'd love a series about Mary where Romola returns to the role.

Catherine and Mary have been the best things that have happened to England.

@@iuliuscaesar9078 Catherine yeah but not mary

​@@iuliuscaesar9078 Mary shit the bed, terrible queen.

@@iuliuscaesar9078definitely not Mary that would have been Elizabeth

It’s so refreshing to see cat grain getting the praise she deserves I came from a Tudor video and I honestly think if Natalie dormer had not played Anne not so many people would like her cuz if we are going off how she acted the the Tudor she was not likable I don’t think she desire to die but she brought it upon herself in a way that I was like stop plus it’s hard to feel badly for someone whom legit was trying to manipulate Henry into killing his innocent daughter she was a legit pre teen / younger side teenager at that time and you have Anne saying how she can’t convince a son till Henry kills Mary and Catherine it’s horrible . She was beautiful don’t get me wrong but how the Tudor tv show portrayed her honestly she’s not that great she wished the death of two innocent women plus she fucked over so many members at court she had no more friends left at court the boylen aimed to high I don’t think Anne could have ever done what Queen Catherine of Aragon did riding into battle pregnant ruing as regent Henry only left two of his queens as regent Catherine of Aragon queen of England and Katharine parr god daughter of Catharine of Aragon . Never Anne why is this she crazy I hate putting them against each other and everyone wants to blame Henry well it takes two to tango .

@@kkandsims4612 exactly! Thank you! Queen Catherine was wonderful.

@@kkandsims4612 She was never in that battle, people stop believe this! Real Catherine would never risk her child like that!

@@kkandsims4612 Anne Boelyn was very diffetent from the myths ans potrayals we see. She was a humanitarian seeking an aliance with Germany which is why her enwmies wanted her gone, she was a devoted mother and aunt and genuinly tried with Mary even sending condolences after COA died. Anne's ladies in waitung are thought to have hated her when she first came to the tower and by the end they cried at her execution.

Oh yeah, she also didn't want to marry Henry and even left court to get away from him.

Sorry, but not quite. Anne's French hood was not a crest with veil as pictured and Catherine's frontlett/bonnet was off plus it looked early Tudor 15th C..

A good number of the dresses were pretty darn close to being accurate in this show. And the men's clothes (minus the leather pants Henry wore in season 1 while exercising) were much closer to being accurate as well.

Well according to Phillipa Gregory she was. I am inclined to believe Catherine was telling the truth in real life.

But remember, this is a feminist show! (The most sarcastic jazz hands ever)

I believe she did lie. Those times were hard, I don't blame her. But I don't believe she and Arthur didn't even try, that's just a small chance

This show was full of bullshit though. Phillips Gregory also implies that Perkin Warbeck was really Richard of Shrewsbury...

She was just in love :(

A child is always the future.

Not to Henry VIII. Boys were all that mattered to him.😑

@@keomanylor3781 It's to secure the Tudor dynasty. There are others who have a much stronger claim to the throne so that's why he needs boys than women. Because if it's all women then the Tudor line would've ended with him.

@@dadian803 Actully I know that was the reason for why Henry VIII treasured boys instead of girls. His two daughters just didn't do it for him and his dynasty.

Mary almost killed Elisabeth. Mary was the past, fanatical catholic.

Well only consort. And once repudiated not even that.

@@patriciabrenner9216 stfu

Legit.

You do realize in no way was this ever ment to be historically accurate. Right?

He even danced with her at her wedding to his brother.

@@BillyGoat32 you are right but they could have done waaaaay better than this. Out of all his wives, my heart breaks for her the most. I dont believe she and Arthur had sex. Eventhough they were only married for less than a year before he died, if they did have sex, she would have been pregnant. That's my opinion anyway.

@@velisagorham8453 I would counter your comment (I agree about Catherine) that it's also a matter about timing of conception. I will vouch for ignorance on how well people tracked ovulation back then if at all. You can have sex with great frequency, and even plan for it in depth now in modern times during ovulation, but if you don't have timing...?

It would have been good to follow through her life - interesting although sad.

The Tudors covers that pretty well? I mean, it's not right on in historical accuracy, but they did do a good job showing what the end of their marriage was like and Catherine having to deal with Henry moving onto Anne, and her time in banishment.

@Hope Logan I agree, Jane grey was actually queen before Mary though, but was executed after reigning 9 days at age 16 which is another tragedy

@king dahomey m he had an illegitimate son with Bessie Blount named Henry Fitzroy who died age 16, which is sad n his son Edward w Jane Seymour died at 15☹️

@@aboleynn Henry fitzroy died at 17

@@parissanders1800 ur right I’m off a little bit, very sad thoo

I love how this is a queen Catharine video but someone’s gotta bring up Anne as if Catharine is nothing in history with out her just cuz Elisabeth was a mighty queen and brought the golden age on means nothing anne was simply the mom whom did not raise Elisabeth she had her that’s it Elisabeth had the best qualities of a Tudor but ruled as her York blood in her would I would say she got more of her grandmother Margret in her then anything .

Actually if it wasn’t for that Mary Queen of scot would never been born . And her James VI son would never be king of England that united both Scotland and England. And your Queen Elizabeth 2nd wouldn’t be born either.

Well if Mary I wouldn’t have been Queen so wouldn’t Elizabeth I been one.. bet you’re Boleyn lunatic, so why even bother to write such tasteless comment

@LeeLou Stei yes it dose. Mary was the daughter of King James V of Scotland and his second wife, Mary of Guise. Mary's great-grandfather was Henry VII, making Henry VIII her great uncle. Elizabeth I was Mary's cousin. Given that Mary was only an infant, her great-uncle Henry VIII made a bid for control. Remember every event has its place. Has everything to do with birth of Mary queen of Scotland. And the great Rivalry between two cousins Mary Queen of Scots vs Elizabeth 1st . Yet Mary still won that battle because her son James VII became king of England. And her great great granddaughter now Queen Elizabeth 2nd . If it wasn’t for Queen Mary 1st .

@LeeLou Stei Hun I just did reread my comment

@LeeLou Stei Elizabeth I (1533-1603) became Queen of England in 1558 after her sister Mary died. She was the daughter of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn and had had a troubled childhood. ... In 1558 Mary Queen of Scots, granddaughter of Henry VIII's elder sister Margaret, had challenged Elizabeth for the throne of England, but had failed.

It was because he was kell positive and possibly had McLeod syndrome which causes personality changes and infertility issues as you get older

Lmao what? The Queens personality are not fucking good they're horrible it's disappointing sorry to crush this moment but saying it's basically what happend when it's really just getting worse and worse like yes ofc not everything is accurate but the way the portray her and other queens is just bad

He didn't have syphilis that was disproven years ago! Why does everybody still believe it?

@@maearcher4721 Same. There was never any real evidence for syphilis! Now, Cesare Borgia had syphilis, often wore a mask to conceal its effects on his face, and infected his poor wife with it. Henry’s wives were spared that fate!

Do you know that he had many bustards and we know 4 of his children lived more than 15 years.

I would love it if they focused on Mary Queen of Scots, but looking at Starz complete destruction of The Spanish Princess and other shows like Reign. I feel like they'll screw up her story as well. Almost every story about Mary and Elizabeth ends up making Elizabeth look like an evil person while Mary is the martyr, when she was really a girl who made bad decisions.

They recently announced that Elizabeth Tudor would be the focus of their next series ‘Becoming Elizabeth’ with Alicia Von Rittberg cast as Elizabeth

Beautiful Queen Catherine 🥺✨

@@klee2982 😍😍😍😍

The real Margaret Beaufort was a much kinder woman who loved and protected her family.

Don’t birds travel to the north so he or she would be fine

nevermind apparently they have become an invasive species in the uk

Anne Boleyn shows rarely show Katherine as evil

@@daesgatling1345 the ones I have watched have, but okay :)

@@xxztarszebraxx4894 SUre buddy

@@daesgatling1345 I'm no buddy of yours because you seem as if you favor Anne over Catherine, but I'll be a bigger person and stop speaking! Have good day 😊❤️

@@daesgatling1345 but they show her as an old woman, with black hair, ugly and unwanted. This is basically a stereotype of villains or evil

He left a secure kingdom. This is why he was a great king.

@@patriciabrenner9216 a king whose male line doomed fast enough. too much for a great.

That's Charlotte and Ruairi's chemistry, lol. I caught myself wanting Henry and Anne of Cleves to get back together on the Tudors and I had to remind myself that was JRM and Joss Stone's chemistry I was cooing over, lol.

Truth the ending oft a bad taste in my mouth also Catharine gave me anxiety even when she had Henry the 9th she was still not happy I was like honey take a Xanax

It was actually more Auburn

Yes! God save the true queen of England! 💕💕🙏🙏

@@xxxxxx5062 amen

She wasn't queen of England, merely queen consort. And after her repudiation even not that.

@@patriciabrenner9216 she was still a queen and even after the divorce people still called her queen

@@Headpfones they could call her godess. Didn't make her so. She was the Dowager princess of Wales, not the Queen.

This ain't abt her but go off ig

yh if catherine never won the war against the scots. Anne and Elithbeth would not exist so who is the real queen

Introducing slavery and expelling black peoples who live in England, persecuting catholics and anabaptists while defaming her half-sister’s name, making the sailors who fought against the spanish armada starve to death because she dont want to pay them, a golden age due to her sister’s law that were put after her death and introducing a cult of her own personality as the “virgin” queen. And let’s not forget to mistreat, stab and hurt your servants. There you go! Approximately 30 000 persons died during her reign making her the second most bloody monarch of the Tudor dynasty, behind her father of course!

@@deathstrikes7866 Definitely Queen Catherine I love her courage and her kindness Henry never deserved.♥️

As was I. Historical dramas are never truly 100% accurate on a good day. The only genuine (and historically accurate) historical drama that I've seen is Isabel.

Velisa - I feel much the same! I was only less disappointed because I expected less from Philippa Gregory, the author who never encountered a female relationship she didn’t want to reduce to a sexist cat fight. Margaret Beaufort’s treatment alone was enough to turn me off it. Also, I totally agree about “The Tudors.” It can be wacky in places, with baffling costume choices, but it actually tries. Honestly I’ve just been spoiled reading the Shardlake series. 8p

Wolf Hall, The Six Wives of Henry VIII, Elizabeth R, and Shadow of the Tower! Each ancient, except Wolf Hall.

​@@britc.3536 I was about to mention Isabel too ! Very well written show with great actors, far better than The Spanish princess which is basically a soap opera set in the 16th century. The sequel Carlos Rey Emperador was pretty good too

@@smilemma4004 I couldn't agree more, The Split Crown is also a good movie! Sorry to go on a tangent but I ... I greatly dislike the Spanish Princess for a plethora of reasons. 1). Not that I dislike Ruari, but I don't think that he was the best choice for Henry Tudor -- for season one anyhow. It's like the production team conveniently forgot that Henry was a literal CHILD when Katherine arrived in England. Ruari is ... what? Twenty something? I wasn't convinced. Their first meeting is my favorite scene in the book because he's yammering a mile a minute, and Katherine shows genuine amusement as he leaves to ride ahead and get everything ready for her. I feel like they should have actually cast a child for this bit, or at least someone younger than both Ruari and Charlotte who could play a convincing ten/eleven-year-old. I wish that they would have followed Isabel and shown that there is a spark between the pair that, over time, develops into something more. I wish that they would have shown in greater detail that Henry is obviously crushing HARD on his sister-in-law, and this precocious streak that most ten-year-olds have. With S2, bring in Ruari, a prince turned king, who never forgot his promise to his late brother's wife, and would make good on it. 2) Unlike Michelle and Rodolfo, who had palpable chemistry, I hardly felt anything for Charlotte and Ruari's portrayals. If anything, at times, the acting seemed kind of wooden. You can tell that M and R spent time off screen just as much as they did on screen (if the BTS footage of them dancing in between takes and being silly is anything to go by). They worked to make their connection convincing. I think they'd actually spent a while together before filming began too, but I'm not entirely sure on that. It aggravated me because when watching Isabel, when she and Fernando would fight, I would be yelling at my screen, begging one or both of them to talk to one another, and sort out what ever wedge was tearing them apart. With C and R's portrayals, I would roll my eyes and act like I was advising Katherine, telling her to seek an annulment or something, because he wouldn't listen to her, no matter what she said. 3) Like they did with Lizzie in TWP, they "girl bossed" Katherine. No one in their right mind would EVER step out into a fight when pregnant, let alone armored. Yes, Katherine was very much involved in the Battle of Flodden, but she was acting as REGENT, she wasn't out in the trenches, just under Henry's nose. 4) Katherine was THRILLED when she gave birth to Mary, to a baby who lived through infancy. She didn't try to distance herself from her daughter, she didn't scoff and walk away when someone begged her to hold her baby. Katherine was VERY MUCH INVOLVED with Mary's upbringing, and even when Mary had established her own house, she was in constant contact with Salisbury. They had an incredibly close relationship, and this is showcased in The Tudors. Katherine chasing Mary through the gardens, playing with her, reminding her of just who she was. 5) Personally, I think that they should have cast a group of Spanish actors and actresses, as I noticed that Charlotte's accent would break through every now and again. They also should have recast Katherine about midway into season two, as Charlotte doesn't make a very convincing late 30s woman. there is a whole host of other things that I found aggravating about the show, but I guess we can only ask for so much. Oh! Did you have the opportunity to see Becoming Elizabeth?

she was a snake and cunning just like her daughter. She made Henry divorce Catherine and he in turn killed many monks and destroyed monestaries and other important building structures and libraries for this vile ho

@Hope Logan agreed I am sick of Anne simps I mean this is a Catharine of Aragon series yet the whole time people are like when’s Anne coming I was like 🤦🏿‍♀️ Queen Catharine was so underrated and still to this day over looked by Anne B fans as if Catharine was nothing she was bad Ass in her own right and was blood royalty so was Mary as her bloodline was probably the strongest out there Henry was an idiot not to Mary her off as she was probably the strongest princess at her time with Spanish bloodlines of Isabella the 1st queen of Castile and Aragon and Henry Tudor and Lizzie York on the other parents Henry the 8th and princess Catharine of Aragon Mary’s rule was filled with propaganda yes she burned people but so did her grandfather ,father and yup even Queen Elisabeth burned people she just had a longer rule so it’s spread out .

@@kkandsims4612 I always been team Catherine and some Anne supporters are getting af.

​@@kkandsims4612 You know she wasn't actually in that battle? And actually, did badly as regent? She is overrated and not just in her regency.

@@lovepower4899 Anne Boelyn was a humanitarian and politician, ahe fled court, a hige risk to her relevance, because she wanted to be left alone. Ambitious, yes, snake, no.

Don't think so, this is based on Philippa Gregory books ( the spanish princess and the king's curse). After this comes the other boleyn girl and we have already the movie .

What happened to Princess Mary Tudor and Catherine in the end of season 2? Did Princess Mary stay with her father or live with Catherine??Bc the letter that Catherine wrote at the end kinda threw me off. Like did she leave her daughter with her father so she left her a letter or did she write the letter to give it to her when she grows up because she most likely wouldn’t have understood why her mother left her father?? Also, 1. how did Princess Mary Tudor end up? Did she become queen of England? Or she become queen of Spain? Or did she become of both? What was her personality when she grew up? Was she fair and nice or mean and unfair? What did she do during her time? Was her reputation? How would you describe her when she grew up? 2. What did Catherine ended doing with her time away from the palace? How long did she live? 3. Did Catherine and Princess Mary live together? 4. What happened to Henry/Harry after Catherine left? Did he miss Catherine? 5. Who become king of England?

She was the future in a way. She was the first crowned queen regnant and paved the way for a great queen to rule for 40 years. Her sister Elizabeth.

@@xxwhispersxx2856 Introducing slavery and expelling black peoples who live in England, persecuting catholics and anabaptists while defaming her half-sister’s name, making the sailors who fought against the spanish armada starve to death because she dont want to pay them, a golden age due to her sister’s law that were put after her death and introducing a cult of her own personality as the “virgin” queen. And let’s not forget to mistreat, stab and hurt your servants. There you go! Approximately 30 000 persons died during her reign making her the second most bloody monarch of the Tudor dynasty, behind her father of course!

Yeah but if mary would be considered legitimate then henry wouldn't be able to marry.

She was Queen of England then she married the King of Spain making her Queen of Spain

Princes Mary was forbidden to see her mother again , but when the affair of his father when Anne Boleyn happened she was 15 a think . In that time a princess was a “property of the monarch” and because Catherine was send away well they never meet again . After that princess Mary served at princess Elizabeth house , and was called lady Mary because she was no longer a legitimate child of the king. She did become Queen of England but after some years she died and was succeeded by her sister Elizabeth.

The next king was Edward son of Henry VIII

who was she???

Thiss catherine of aragon not Anne!

Not that it's worth arguing (because Philippa Gregory and most historical fiction is TRASH), but while Shakespeare was brilliant he himself didn't invent the term "wild goose chase". It's widely accepted that the term derives from a colloquialism referring to a horse racing game that predated the 1590's. Shakespeares written mention of it was only the first time it had been recorded in print (which is frankly unsurprising for the era). I just thought anyone perusing the comments deserved a clarification.

But the boy died very young, besides not having ruled for a long time, almost nobody remembers him

Tell that to her son, too; he was placed on him expectations no child should bear. His father killed him.

Her husband Henry wasn’t that much better of a person, in the show and in real life.

@@idontgiveafaboutyou I know that. But that's no excuse for her behaviour. Catherine of Aragon has always been my favourite and this tv show is basically assasinating her character. There is nothing good about this representation. It's worst I've seen.

Nope.

No, is the 2 season

Umm, I thought it was pretty good. The first episode of the season was kind of slow, but It picked up in the second episode. They could’ve showed a little more in depth of the Anne situation, because mainly she was the cause of the divorce.

@@zabrinagreen they did what they could with only 8 episodes

@@ihavenoname424 haha mediocrity is acceptable?

@@sarahjames9456 it wasnt mediocre in my opinion this is my favourite show of all time its not meant to be historically acurate or anything

Get better shows

Really? Because most comments under videos on youtube are females. I think more likely somebody with high connections watched it and realized how bad season 2 was. Not just in terms of historical inaccuracy-but also how the main character treats others. Horribly. Female who thinks she only had value if she wins, if she beats man and even her own husband for her is enemy and she plots and lies behind his back throughout the season. For no reason really. She could just be nice and polite and a team player-but no she has to win on her own and she is downright rude to men and very entitled and arrogant when speaking with them. The character was supposed to be empowering and instead she is a misandrist. And I think that is why it got canceled.

Thank goodness I’m not the only one who noticed. I’m guessing Catherine picked it up at Target. Looks like it was in the clearance bin, though.

but the series is not based on the story but on the Phillips Gregory novel, how was the white queen and the white princess and the movie the other Boleyn girl. They are historical novels, good for entertainment, but not for study

@@evellyngarcia5999 yes this is a fact but it doesn’t change the fact the plot in tv series is weak. The dialogues are contrived or boring. Sad for the young actors. I read the book which is a rich story and fun. It’s made clear by the author she took liberties with historical fact which is fine, but Starz butchered the book and history. You can try to make comparisons but it doesn’t change the fact I think this show is a disappointment.

@@sarahjames9456 yes, but i'm explaining why you said “is not historical accurate”, since the series is not based on the story, but on a novel. In all the series and the film I mentioned you can see this because the author focuses more on the rumors of the time than in historical facts

@@evellyngarcia5999 READ my earlier response I read the book. I’m well aware this not based on historical fact, but the author at least tried. The show makes no attempt and ignores the book. Therefore in my opinion the show is junk. I’m getting the feeling you work for the show. 🤣. Please spare me your reasoning. I only watched this show because I read the book and found it to be a complete waste of time. Goodbye

@@sarahjames9456 I read your answer, but when you said "not historical accurate" it seemed like you wanted it to be based on history and not on a novel that the author clearly uses for poetic license. But it's good that you read the books and already knew that it has nothing to do with the real story. That is the point of my comments. Now if it was a bad adaptation of the books is something else.