‘Vegan Christmas’ FAIL?! | Pass It On S3 E5 

This is a stellar idea!

It'd be interesting, but it really just means whoever goes last has to try to make everything fit their theme.

Just to give them some chance of passing, the themes would have to all be at least somewhat similar. If one person's told the theme is date night dinner, & the next is told that it's carnival food, they're basically gonna' end up each scrapping everything the previous person did. Done right, it could be a good idea, though.

An April fool's pass it on. I recommended it a while back.

I've given variations of this idea so many times. Like each person given a different country to influence their dish. Or each person is given a secret ingredient (that's not a typical basic item they use often) that needs to be incorporated well enough that it makes it to the table. I also have the idea of each person is given information to steer the dish, like a note pulled from a hat, but there's zero communication allowed aside from hints. For example, the first person could be told Christmas dinner, the next person is told it has to be gluten free, the next person finds out it should be French, and the final person is told that it needs to fit into a small container for somebody who works on Christmas day to bring as their meal.

Add that to the intro AFTER Where's the dish!😂

I shouldn't have been drinking my tea when I saw that. 😂😂😂

I was vegan before and honey is actually considered controversial on whether or not it's vegan

@@bunnyhop-84 yeah, i think for the purposes of this video they could get away with honey, i lean towards 'not vegan' personally, but it is debated rather hotly, even tho i agree with them, i find the 'honey is not vegan' camp pretty annoying as they tend to be opinionated and obdurate about it, to the point that they will tell non-vegans like the Sorted boys that its definitely not vegan, rather than 'i personally do not consider it vegan'

It's reached iconic status now.

I agree!🤗

@@SortedFood And to be fair.. half the time you guys do pass it on, we do wonder where the dish is.. so it's still relevant to this day

The only problem is, James isn't with them anymore and they're using his voice. So, I guess he gets a nice bonus for the reused audio.

@@thisisatonofbs sadness :(

It's like he becomes Super-Ben, fixing everyone's mistakes faster than the speed of sound. That or he's a secret Time Lord, able to bend time.

Indeed, it was absolutely amazing to see him work like that

I feel that's the mark of an excellent chef. He needs to think on his feet and be fast from kitchen to table.

That is the definition of a chef. He is at home around kitchen.

The speed of a chef working desperately to correct.

That's why Veganism is stupid. what counts is if it's an ethically sourced food item or not. I mean, it's shown that plants have an actual response to what we as human beings could see as an analogue to pain response. But because 99.99% of people dun see plants the same way they do a cow, sheep, animal-provided produce like milk and eggs, etc. Then that's just a totally ignored thing.

Same energy as “Do rocks burn?”

Well is honey vegan ? I personally don't have a clue. But does it matter?.

@@littlebigman5791 vegans argue about whether honey is vegan. Some say it is an animal byproduct and therefore not allowed. Some say….. it doesn’t hurt the bees, we need bees, do you also refuse to wear wool? It’s a big debate.

Interesting - I know a lot of vegans and none of them consider honey to be vegan. I wasn't aware there were dissenting opinions on the matter.

Yeah he was utterly exceptional, I was in awe

If that didn't deserve a 10 I watched a different video. Ben absolutely smashed that one, especially given what he walked into.

yes

I really miss the reaction vids. I hope they do one for this!

reaction videos are a waste of everyones time, energy, and breath.

@@Nescent69 negative. They are great

@@bondsmatthew incorrect. They are pointless.

It was such a bittersweet moment - I'd been thinking, there they go again, the normals always start a new dish, they can't build on what's gone before - and then it all clicked for Jamie. On balance, I'm very happy to have my curmudgeonly cynicism proved wrong.

Honey is an animal product, so, no, it isn't vegan. Vegan means nothing of animal origin.

I was going to say it's a big debate in the vegan community. On the one hand it's made by animals, but on the other it involves no killing, no captivity, and no major change in what bees would do in the wild, so there's no harm to animals.

for me the main reason i wouldn’t consider it vegan is because of the negative impacts that honey bee farming causes to other native pollinators (mainly due to competition) but if someone is vegan apart from honey i don’t think it suddenly makes them not a vegan if that makes sense lol

Can we just agree to call a dish made with the addition of honey Beegan?

I really can’t fathom how people would consider it not vegan…

I think this really sums up the difference between "normals" and chef - I know the community agrees that the guys aren't reeeeeally normals any more, given how long they've been doing it and everything they've learned and are very clearly capable of, but at the same time there is still that very definite gulf when it really comes to it. They're more like "Normal 2.0"

A lot of being a chef is knowledge. He knows what works together, he knows how long things take and probably has plenty ideas what fits into the Christmas theme. Also he's able to chop while thinking. Ben is also one of those people who live their job. Always interested in learning and improving. That's far ahead from the normals, who already have more knowledge than a normal person

I've seen that exact thing on another channel, but I can't remember which. But I like it yeah

@@kaldo_kaldo it's from the Eric Andre show

so is red wine, I learned this when adding a little bit of baking soda to a sauce to try and bring down the acidity

These are fun facts!

Using a multilayered reactant ball (think jawbreaker but acids and bases rather than sugars and dyes) you can throw it in a pot or fountain filled with it that has currents and watch it bob around and create cool colorshifting waves

Yeah. I filled a wine bottle with red cabbage water and then later made my own pH strips. Kinda crude. But rather fun.

It has EVERYTHING right?

It's the bees knees- unlike Barry's honey screw up. I say everyone but Barry deserves a pass on this one. It all looks delicious though!

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Seconded!!!! I really miss the bloopers

I am always waiting for it, hoping they will be there.

I want the bloopers back as well!

I think the blooper peaked a bit early this time, with Ben's comment about how they (ahem) pummelled their own nuts...

It's Christmas, not the 'holiday season'.

Hahaha..... something usually goes wrong while cooking the Christmas dinner right? That should be the new word everyone shouts 😂

@@John-ed2wj lol who asked you?

@@John-ed2wj Cristmas is the 25th december. Today is not that day. Grow up and enjoy the Holiday season.

@@John-ed2wj there are more holidays than 1, douchebag. As another person who celebrates Christmas, shut up.

I think they should have been able to assume the stuff on the table was vegan safe...esp if they weren't given extra time to double check and make sure stuff was vegan. There is vegan honey after all.

@@nackydmoose Especially because vegan rules are CRAZY. Even stuff that should be vegan isn't. Sugar? Nope. Wine? Nope. Apples? Nope. Veggie burgers? Nope.

Nope, it's literally a disqualification. Also, Barry's omission of the truth is SO WRONG!!! It's exactly why so many vegan people (and those with intolerances and allergies) don't trust eating out. I HATED that so much.

@@adde9506 It's dependent on what additives are put in food. There's a lot of very common additives that aren't vegan that wouldn't even cross your mind.

@@adde9506 Vegan rules aren’t really crazy. Sugar in the U.K. doesn’t use bone char so can be pretty much guaranteed to be safe (Americans on the other hand). Wine is because they use non vegan filtration, but a large number of wines are already vegan (think all of co-ops own brand, most of Tescos own brand etc). No idea where you’ve got apples from? Unless they use beeswax or shellac for shine? Veggie burgers, well yeah if they’re for vegetarians they might include egg or milk etc which aren’t suitable but most veggie burgers are moving to vegan to be more accessible to all.

Proving he's full of hot air … and we love him for it.

Alternatively they could just subtly call Barry "honey" from now on. As in "Honey, have you made sure all the items in this dish are vegan?"

I think the difference is these guys were in a time crunch and couldn’t ask the person with dietary restrictions what is safe. Friends around me will always ask if there’s brands or specific products that are safe or preferred and try to cater that way.

Absolutely. I think we've all had our 'is honey vegan??' moment of panic

Glad it brought a smile to your face :)

Barry's face was hilarious 😂

Good luck for your test! Stay calm :)

Haha, so glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much for watching.

@@SortedFood Thank you guys! I'm a longtime fan and this was a treat of an episode 🥰

tbf he's been trying to do tips like that forever. His pineapple spice disaster was said in the same way

but also sufficiently normal to not know that honey isn't typically vegan (even though if its bought from a good beekeeper then you're supporting healthy happy bees.)

⁠@@Dream146that’s the thing vegan is not exactly a very uptight definition. If bought from a good beekeeper it should be vegan by logic of ethicial veganism. More of my personal opinion but I find vegans who don’t view consumption of animal products in terms of ethics as one consideration among others to be pretentious vegetarian. I have been vegetarian and it is lovely and varied depending on the person who is vegetarian. I do wonder how many vegans would just be vegetarian if they heard it first or had a better understanding of vegetarianism.

Thank you, we really will need it 😂

@@SortedFood Nahhhh, I'm only kidding, you guys always deliver a spectacular show. Excited to catch the 2 online viewings, you guys'll do great!

Agreed. I am in full support of dress rehearsal PIO vids before the live day. Barry might want to do a crash course in "school" though. He tries so hard but his errors are scary.

I second this

Did i hear "Barry has a "vegan limitation" a future video?"

@@ElmAndChorus Bring back the buzzer, any time he picks up a nonvegan ingredient he gets zapped. :P

You lot need to leave Barry alone. He gets so much hate nowadays. Let him have fun with his friends

I like that Barry did realize his mistake with the honey after and I think he should get credit for that and I don't think it should be a pass because he just wanted sweetness which Ben added with the onion marmalade anyways.

Sorry to hear you’ve been stuck like that, best of luck on a speedy recovery and I hope you find enough to keep you occupied in the meantime. Much love

@@stephendonovan9084 Thank you so much Stephen, what a lovely comment. And yeah, I finally start to see (and feel) some improvement so I hope to be able to be back home for christmas. Thank you again for the nice support :)

That's when you know it's good! When you don't usually eat that food and it blows your mind.

Tipsy vegan?

@@jackware2005 that's the one.

@@jackware2005 Have you been to the Tipsy Vegan?

@@Timalay was there recently for the lunch menu

Thank you! He really did..... also it seems like the Vegan community are totally divided over honey being vegan or not.

@@SortedFood After this many years of him doing the same things again and again, he is doing it on purpose. you cant do it over years and still claim ignorance

@@Alzeiden False. It can stem from other things, like 'fibro fog.' That's not presuming Barry has that med condition, or any med condtion. Health and well being can affect thinking or recall, etc.

@@b_uppy or just a basic "I need to think fast" going wrong, it happens all the time! Like accidentally using salt instead of sugar (thinking of the cinnamon salt)

@@mirouyo9785 That can be true as well.