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“Amateurism Is Dead” - ESPN’s Jay Bilas on the Future of the NCAA | The Rich Eisen Show | 6/30/21

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ESPN’s Jay Bilas and Rich Eisen discuss the sea change coming to the NCAA after that damaging decision from the Supreme Court last week.
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@JRock3091 3 года назад

Waiting for the class action against the NCAA and EA for all of those video game dollars they were fucked out of

@austin.hook-em 3 года назад

EA, for once in their life, were pretty reasonable. When the lawsuits first came down, EA said they were entirely fine paying the “student-athletes”. It was the NCAA who pitched a fit, and doubled down.

@georgeparker8198 3 года назад

Jay Bilas is one of my favorite people in college athletics dude just keeps it real and is not a snake oil salesman out to make himself look good like some of these scumbag coaches.

@anthonyray5713 3 года назад

Agreed

@1newbert 3 года назад

I really like when Jay gets his teeth into a subject. Great respect for him as a broadcaster.

@smithyman33 3 года назад

Now that college sports are officially/unofficially professional. Why should educational institutions be involved with sports?

@AM-pm1mm 3 года назад

"Get rekt" I believe is the term the kids use these days, NCAA.

@johnbrowntheprophet 3 года назад

This has been a long time coming.

@johnmcho 3 года назад

The more I study and follow this subject, the less I understand what amateurism even is. Charity I understand. Community Service, sure. Amateurism? I climb for fun. I am an amateur climber. If NorthFace wants to give me gear, I am a sponsored athlete, a pro. These athletes have been sponsored for years, just getting paid in shoes and gear. But then one kid I know got kicked off his college golf team because he had a moderately successful youtube channel doing trick shots. And that predated his college career. Again, I genuinely don't understand how they define amateur.

@braddillon4311 3 года назад

In some respects, the concept of amateurism has never actually existed in practice. Back when the Olympics first started, only amateurs were allowed to compete. Basically meaning you weren't compensated for your services. However, the majority or almost every Olympic competitor was compensated in one way or another.

@kvo1532 3 года назад

Great interview

@itisnottaken4444 3 года назад

*SMU has entered the chat*

@shawnconvery4899 3 года назад

Of course Mitch 'Small Government' McConnel wants to pass a law so athletes can't make money off their own image.

@evanviveiros 3 года назад

Regulate everyone but me sir

@rickleo2159 3 года назад

As a Syracuse fan, Jay, you explained that very well... thank you. I wonder what bidding wars might do to future tuition costs?

@cityhawk 3 года назад

Do you think it’ll be worse for public or private colleges or universities or both?

@samuelwallace2782 3 года назад

"Mighty fine slaves you got here, sir!" -Coach Cartman

@dadwithtourettes 3 года назад

Oh darn, players can finally make WELL DESERVED money off their name, likeness, and time.

@fairtreatment2618 3 года назад

Yep they should. They should also have to pay for college as half at a minimum aren’t smart enough to graduate

@AzureRaven2 3 года назад

@@fairtreatment2618 Half is just an ignorant estimate. And it's not like the ones who couldn't pass were even getting their tuition's worth, many being forced to take fake paper classes to pass which does precisely squat for their future.

@worlddevourer7740 3 года назад

They should just stop that entire farce and allow the universities to go out and hire the best athletes in the country to play under their banner and just pay them whatever the university and its boosters feel like shelling out to have a dominant team in whatever sport. They should also let the athletes all to be complete free agents and move from school to school without restriction (even mid season) in order to get the most money they can. Forget about taking classes and earning a degree. What do you mean this would destroy competition and only a few super rich schools would dominate the major sports??? That is EXACTLY what will happen.

@kudukilla 3 года назад

In all these discussions, they seem to think football and baseball are the only programs are an athletic department. Those 2 pay for everything else.

@seandoughty767 3 года назад

NCAA should give Reggie Bush back his Heisman now…

@worlddevourer7740 3 года назад

Reggie would need to get in line. There are MANY athletes who broke those rules, got paid off and got caught that would/should have won Heismans. Eric Dickerson comes to mind.

@dallaswood4117 3 года назад

He didn’t really make money off image and likeness or endorsements he was paid outright so I don’t know what’s going to happen with that

@Pumpkin3.14pi 3 года назад

He broke the rules at the time. If I get a speeding ticket today, and three months from now they change the speed limit, I still have to pay the ticket.

@PeeedaPan 3 года назад

Im for paying the players. Its sad though that this new era will probably lead to many smaller schools, or schools with not much prestige in Power 5 conferences, to ending their sports programs because they aren't going to be able to compete monetarily with big programs like Alabama, Ohio State, Oregon, etc. Atleast before, if a school could hire a good coach, it would change the fortunes of the whole program. Now, even if the coach is really good, many of these high schoolers are just going to see $$$ and choose to go to a palce where they make slightly more money rather than to a school that fits their values and a coach that would probably be better for their development

@colinschenck2129 3 года назад

Yep. It'll turn into free agency with boosters being able to offer players big money to be an ad for their company

@JohnJohnson-kg4ek 3 года назад

I'm all for education related expenses and 3rd party sponsorships. However, when a school starts paying salaries to athletes in football and basketball, it takes revenue away from non-profitable sports like tennis or cross country. This money is essential in allowing non-revenue generating sports and womens sports to exist.

@AQUIENLASALA 3 года назад

Jay Bilas hates that student athletes get monetary rewards but is perfectly fine with coaches and ADs getting grossly overpaid compared to other school personnel

@colinschenck2129 3 года назад

Recruiting is now basically free agency. Kids will go to the schools where businesses offer them the biggest endorsements aka boosters giving them money to show up in an ad for their company.

@HockeyTownHooligan5 3 года назад

Their #1 goal is to go to the pros or get an education. Do you really think there’s going to be a top player from Georgia or Florida that picks Cornell or Harvard over Alabama or Clemson because of the rich donor base? It gives them the freedom to pick and choose based off of income like every other student.

@Ryhunts 3 года назад

Jay needs his own show

@randyjames693 3 года назад

Cheers to Jerry Tarkanian ~ The Shark

@kennyfnpowers707 3 года назад

Student athletes that sign some kind of deal should not be eligible for a scholarship or the very least if it is a 50k deal then they lose 50k in scholarships.

@colinschenck2129 3 года назад

They shouldnt get a scholarship if they accept anything. Make them pick

@user-kz1tk7sj9p 3 года назад

Amateurism is for the rich anyways. All it does is hold people back!

@jawill24 3 года назад

Ncaa is the worst run cartel in the world

@misaelchavarin5931 3 года назад

Jay is the voice of reason 👏

@schadlarry 3 года назад

So if the QB is making millions in endorsements, he better be buying during 25¢ beer night.

@coachp651 3 года назад

Welcome to the future

@60zeller 3 года назад

This will kill the small schools Only a handful full of schools are making the big cash

@marquesmurray 3 года назад

99 percent of players will make nothing This will end bad for the players

@12centcomicsandcards 3 года назад

When are we going to get a lockout for a college player who feels under paid?

@miguelpadilla31 3 года назад

That not how it works. They are not getting paid by the school. It allows student athletes to use their image, name and likeness in advertisements and merch also be able to get sponsors.

@jacobbuehne7362 3 года назад

Biggest winner is college basketball

@cinnaminson0653 3 года назад

It won't help because that sport is dead.

@goode.110 3 года назад

Too expensive to be an amateur these days. Need some money if you are gonna be giving up four + years and college for a sport

@freeindeed8416 3 года назад

Can’t forget the degree

@connorc.736 3 года назад

I wonder how this will effect sports that always run a loss instead of a profit (everything besides football and men’s basketball basically). Will those sports have to get axed because the NCAA can’t afford to pay those players?

@blue-pi2kt 3 года назад

If you can afford a $5m coach, you can run a program that breaks even. Universities aren't broke. They will figure it out, especially given it's a rounding error in most college's budget.

@geoffsimpkins7650 3 года назад

The scholarship money was not considered payment? The extra training table, medical, academic that athletes receive is not a benefit? Didn’t the Trump CFO just get into hot water for not declaring such things as undeclared income for tax purposes? That was for private school fees and parking and an apartment? Sounds a lot like an athletic scholarship to me, school, room and board. So, the athletes will now get taxed for the value of their scholarships?

@albertcovington9942 3 года назад

All they are allowing them to do is earn money in outside ways. Same as any other student. Do you have a problem with a kid in an academic scholarship doing a paid internship at a big company while in school? What's the difference? Stop being jelous of folks with a talent you don't have.

@Minoltalphafan 3 года назад

Oh please! All of these kids are practically professional with the schedules they keep doing only athletics.

@johnsouth3912 3 года назад

Amateurism does not need too be dead, just kick football and basket ball off campus and bring back non scholarship athletics

@tallflguy 3 года назад

That’s dumb

@seymourbutts9085 3 года назад

Good luck bringing history to a stop.

@robm6726 3 года назад

Honestly, I'd be good with that, make it an affiliated buisiness with the college, and let the colleges play intramural athletics for people that just want to play with a far less time constraint. Since these athletes don't have time to get a part time job, or in many cases even study because of the football time demands.

@seandoughty767 3 года назад

So who’s going to watch a lesser product? How have all those spin-off football leagues worked out?

@johnsouth3912 3 года назад

@@seandoughty767 make city teams and form leagues for 17 - 23 year olds. Plenty of money with tv and Nike

@FlibbenMcg 3 года назад

I love all the people who are worried this will lead to schools giving players crazy incentives as recruiting tools... as though that hasn't already been the case for decades.

@kapnk066 3 года назад

Will athletes be allowed to wear their college branded apparel or mention the college they are an athlete at when they go to an autograph signing to make money? If yes, wouldn't the college be entitled to a royalty from the athlete because the athlete is leveraging the college's trademaarked brand to make money in the same manner the NCAA leveraged the athlete "brand" for decades?

@brodoxshaman 3 года назад

An athlete's relationship with a "brand" is mutually beneficial. The school is a brand, and there is a relationship between the athlete and the brand. The college could negotiate for a royalty, but in a free market having a popular athlete represent your brand usually involves compensation FROM the brand TO the athlete. You've got the market analysis backwards.

@lovebattlerap3341 3 года назад

For the love of food lmao

@brodoxshaman 3 года назад

More insightful guests like Bilas, please! Great interview.

@tomjones2121 3 года назад

I want to sign my 4 year old grandson to a cereal advertising contract as a member of his T Ball team .. ...LOL

@colinschenck2129 3 года назад

Not far away sadly

@leonrobinson2475 3 года назад

There's going to be a player with a multi-million dollar shoe deal also getting a scholarship. The rule should be scholarship = no NIL money. If you want to get NIL money then pay your own way.

@jaybrook07 3 года назад

Yeah I never understood how they said it was amateurism...yet the coach got paid.

@colinschenck2129 3 года назад

So then why do high school, junior high, or AAU levels of play get paid? That's all amateur level stuff

@jaybrook07 3 года назад

@@colinschenck2129 aren't they usually getting paid to be teachers at that school? Not sure about every school but my football coach was a gym teacher

@albertcovington9942 3 года назад

@@colinschenck2129 high school at the top levels is far from "amateur" and had been for a long time. Just the fact a kid can get an athletic scholarship worth 100k makes it not amateur. Not to mention the side money...the shoe money and coaches salaries.

@mourka01 3 года назад

Amateur athletics existed for the benefit of everyone but the person engaging in said activities

@jbonet4750 3 года назад

No, the illusion of amateurism is dead, indentured servitude is dead.

@sonofsarek 3 года назад

Many of these kids have no business being in college if it wasn’t for sports. In no unbiased reality are they victims. Gimme a break.

@jbonet4750 3 года назад

@@sonofsarek You said it yourself, they have no business being in school, and yet there they are pretending to go to school s they can work for free in the slim hope of having a professional career. These are kids, and they are being used to make billions of dollars....seems like they are victims.

@cinnaminson0653 3 года назад

Does this mean that the $EC bag men can operate openly rather than dropping off $9,000 to someone's uncle in the parking lot of a Piggly Wiggly or a Waffle House?

@ThatGhettoPenguin 3 года назад

Chad kavannagh dropping the hammer… literally

@ak102986 3 года назад

Jay Bilas clearly did not get an education while he was at Duke.

@tfive24 3 года назад

The state of Georgia gave the other states and schools advantage over Georgia schools for athletics.

@Dabeast1911Que 3 года назад

Its been dead a long time. The money shows you as much

@mason678w 3 года назад

If amateurism is over then give the athletes part of the tv money...

@flashblack1059 3 года назад

Go get your money, but don’t blame anybody except yourself if you’re broke with 7 paternity suits because you don’t have any financial sense.

@hond4h34d 3 года назад

Why can't non-white 17 year olds become professionals in America? It's a question that everyone knows the answer to but don't want to say out loud.

@brotherLee340 3 года назад

Well whites can't become professionals either lol

@hond4h34d 3 года назад

@@brotherLee340 c'mon, we all know most of these student-athletes are black

@brotherLee340 3 года назад

@@hond4h34d technically you are wrong lol. I get what you saying tho. Most college athletes are white. But the big sports basketball/football are mostly Black.

@freeindeed8416 3 года назад

What?

@jamesshaffer3951 3 года назад

be an amateur while institutions make Billions..nah

@jamesbingham1007 3 года назад

Wait til' guys start "loaning" money to players. Anyone see where I'm heading with this?

@D-AVGGamer 3 года назад

And you thought this wasn't happening already? Get your head out of the ground. They've been paying students athletes for decades, even bench players were getting bribes. This isn't something new.

@cityhawk 3 года назад

@@D-AVGGamer Watch Pony Excess about SMU football in the 1980s. There are no bounds as to what universities, ADs, and boosters will do to get the best players to come play for them. You name it.

@keithhogan7836 3 года назад

It also means players can't have a business like a RU-vid or tik tok

@inlinechris 3 года назад

Bilas is looking old

@brotherLee340 3 года назад

Soo basically The Big Schools can just pay the players whatever lol.

@uss_cushing 3 года назад

No they can’t pay some college athlete whatever they want. Because then any college athlete could become a potential free agent and shop their services to any and all colleges.

@brotherLee340 3 года назад

@@uss_cushing yea I know. I was being funny. But they basically will be able to pay athletes. Just think about it. Kids are basically gonna shop themselves to the highest bidder🤷‍♂️

@colinschenck2129 3 года назад

@@brotherLee340 they will shop themselves to the highest booster bidder.

@brotherLee340 3 года назад

@@colinschenck2129 yea basically

@johncoffelt6645 3 года назад

Time for plan "B" any college athlete that signs endorsement deals or is making money off their image/name, should not get any scholarships from any University/College. Since they are now profiting off themselves the scholarships should go to the student athletes that aren't profiting off their own image, after all it only seems fair.

@smithyamiami 3 года назад

Stop. There's nothing wrong with making a living.

@prmath 3 года назад

When the Federal gov. Touches anything………. It is over

@cristianvera93 3 года назад

First!

@tallflguy 3 года назад

Second

@iamthem.a.n.middleagednerd1053 3 года назад

I agree that college players should be allowed to be compensated but doesn't their education count as compensation?

@renlysotherlover294 3 года назад

Sure but the universities and ncaa are making billions upon billions in revenue so that doesn’t really pan out fairly plus scholarships get pulled all the time.

@uteboy86 3 года назад

The thing is mate they paid for this course. Players couldn't even get given computers, tablets things that would help them with their course. Food they had to pay for their own food after making billions of dollars for the NCAA. Players who had kids couldn't get child care for their kids. Their families couldn't be dropped off or picked up by coaches wives or family members the rules are fucking ridiculous.

@undrtddrmzmedia3331 3 года назад

There are jobs across america that pay for your tuition but you still get a paycheck. You dont work at McDonald's for free just because they pay for you tuition

@12centcomicsandcards 3 года назад

Free tuition to $200k schools ain’t enough?

@smithyamiami 3 года назад

That number's a little high. By the way, the CEO of the NCAA makes $4M per year.

@justinmailloux3799 3 года назад

not when you look ay revenues made off the kids. Its in the multimillions and even billions of dollars.

@12centcomicsandcards 3 года назад

@@justinmailloux3799 college athletics ain’t about making the money think of how small major universities would be if all the money brought in went to the players instead of building the university

@12centcomicsandcards 3 года назад

@@smithyamiami seems reasonable for such a major brand