This is a total failure on CONMEBOL. They wanted to control the event, pretty much ignored best practices and created a dangerous situation for fans. Hard Rock Stadium literally gave them plans for how to create perimeters around Hard Rock for this event and CONMEBOL basically threw them in the garbage. This isn't a US problem, this is a CONMEBOL problem.
This happened in the US, its an awful look. If the US gave all the reigns to conmebol(which is most likely bs and a blame game) then they are just as responsible. How could they expect a federation to come from outside and organize anything well? Regardless a South American tournament should not be held in the US it was all corruption
CONMEBOL definitely needs to bear the brunt of this debacle, but dont be mistaken USSF has some degree of culpability as a co-host. They are to sign off on the CONMEBOL plan. Also, the relevant law enforcement and municipal agencies have requirements for events based on several factors, such as crowd size. Clearly there wasn't enough security. Failures all the was around, from CONMEBOL on down.
Of course its also a US Problem if US soccer officials and US Authorities give all responsibility as a host nation away to CONMEBOL. You are a the host of an international tournament. Police looked like they go on a fishing trip. They are not prepared to face international football fans. Its not MLS or super bowl.
In South America a football match with 50,000 people will have at least a 1000 Policemen. Here you had about 70,000 people in a Copa America final. Someone from the South American Press said that the people in charge of the security were laughing when they were told "you'll need 1000 policemen" and ended up assigning only about 500.
@@mtadams2009 - Well, it was the United States' idea not mine. That was the whole reason for the FIFAgate, it wasn't to stop corruption. Corruption is still going but now handled by different people, if you know what I mean. The plan was to hold many football tournaments for very big profits and there are many more tournaments coming besides the 2026 World Cup. Enjoy!
@@mtadams2009 if the ticket is over a $1K and they leave areas where people can get in for free . Then idiot is to think people won’t take advantage of that. That’s why you prepare and not let ppl without ticket come close from the stadium . Yes you re not prepared to host this nor the World Cup . People can die if they let the USA host that magnitude of events. Rusia , France and Qatar did very good job hosting the last WCs but they re in a different level . You will never see this careless mess in Rusia.
Yes and no, in the sense that they were ill-prepared for the level of behaviour displayed by the fans. American Sport culture is completely different, battles are waged on the pitch, not amongst the fans, that is not only frowned upon, but also simply not tolerated. They are simply not used to people showing up without a ticket, let alone pushing to get in, so yes, they were unprepared, but it was the fans, and I could easily single out somebody, who behaved like animals and just like it happened for the English supporters decades ago, after the Hysel Stadium tragedy, CONMEBOL should hang a several years ban on those fans or are we waiting for something to happen and somebody to die? Instead, they are looking to punish Bielsa or those players who behaved like human beings and try to defend their families, instead they booked a 30-minutes, half-time concert, totally disrespecting the game and the players. They are clowns but dangerous ones.
A Venue that has hosted high profile global events with little to no hiccup, now people are questioning the city. Are you kidding me? Why don't we talk about the UNRULY FANS and CONMEBOL for being greedy and did not want to spend money for a better Tournament? This is an absolute disgrace.
This wasn't even so much a problem at the 2016 tournament, when the US soccer federation controlled every aspect of the proceedings outside the game itself, which is not what happened with this version, as CONMEBOL controlled those aspects, despite the US being the hosts and knowing what to do, with each stadium hosting giant events like this on the regular (especially those Taylor Swift concerts, too)
If we take the previous game between Colombia and Uruguay into consideration, where Uruguayan players had to protect their families, it's more like that the Colombia fans can't behave themselves. Argentinian fans went to Qatar in great numbers without any problems. It says a lot about how Colombians are behaving in general. Surely CONMEBOL is also at fault for not having the final of the Copa America in a stadium with a bigger capacity, a lack of improve security given the previous behavior of Colombian fans in the game against Uruguay and the lack of better Logistics in place to prevent fans without a ticket getting so close to the stadium.
Because it happened in Miami and in that stadium (and that uneventful past events are not the point)... It's not good enough for the stadium to say, we gave the organizers blueprints and they turned them down. If that is the case then don't accept the event. Yes on some videos you see some unruly fans but on many other videos you see a stadium that was not prepared for this event.... Corraling thousands of fans into a fenced in area and causing a pileup. Too easy to say that Conmebol was the organizer. The venue owners also have some liability as do local officials. I am assuming that in Miami as in other locations around the world for an event of this size you get a permit and that your security arrangements are vetted (since you do have law enforcement there). there are videos where security is trying to hold back barriers / fencing not of people without tickets but people being crushed. so yes that causes a lot of issues on the fact they seemed unprepared
@@shanghaidiscovery2664 Its not easy, its the truth. The organizer controls the event. They decided to cut corners and they fucked it up not just in Miami, but every stadium site. Also CONMEBOL paid USFF 10 million to have control over the organization of the tournament, so they had no say or control over what happened.
This is football , the only sport that drives people crazy around the world . It's not just the Conmebol. This country is not ready to host a World Cup. They don't have the correct staff nor organization.
How about blaming THE FANS WHO DID THIS CRAP? You know, 'personal responsibility', 'the difference between right and wrong', 'idiot should have known better', dumb stuff like that....
The venue didn't host any viewing parties outside or nearby, didn't hold off on selling portions of sections until day of, didn't bring extra security, didn't open their gates earlier to better-improve the traffic flow, and didn't offer additional ways to enjoy the game in large settings----all while arguably millions of Latinos are trying to watch the game in a congested region of Florida.
@@DIAC1987 Let's ditch the race card in this. It absolutely doesn't matter who was doing this crap. Color, culture, advocacy and all that stuff is secondary to the point. The people who rushed the gate were trying to get in free. They figured that if enough of them got in that stadium security couldn't or wouldn't evict them all. AND they figured that they would steal [yes, STEAL] seats from the people who actually bought tickets. That shit's wrong no matter who you are or where you're from. Don't mistake me here. The venue made mistakes. That's obviously true. But bum rushing the gates to try and see the game free was a crime and those who did it bear the primary responsibility. The venue doesn't owe a Goddamn thing to victims who didn't have a valid ticket.
Only NFL games have a comparable attendance. But for whatever reason, Americans seem to respect a lot more those who bought the tickets and have the right to be in the stadium.
what's embarassing is how the US couldnt handle a soccer match. Everywhere in the world they host futbol matches and they dont have this chaos. even AFRICA and the MIDDLE EAST didn't have multiple instances of fights, astroturf that wasn't even patched up. Those BS american excuses as to why you guys FAILED don't really work when the rest of the world can competently host a match.
Fans created a dangerous environment for fans. The fans didn't respect anything. Those countries should have to pay for damages and refund tickets. Ridiculous. Those fan bases behaved like children.
I lived in Colombia for 10 years. A different level of brash lawlessness and disrespect and violent disobedience. Of course not everyone but enough people to ruin it for the rest.
Indeed. But the question still needs to be asked why wasn't there enough security on hand to prevent this from happening in the first place. This has happened at other soccer matches like the euro final at Wembley and 2021 in London. Why were those lessons learned is also an important point.
I was working that night at the stadium.😢 It was truly something crazy to witness. That damaged escalator is located in the Lobby near the club where I work. Totally unimaginable!
I was the only international Event of the Month !!!!. All Europe, All America (that is why is called Copa America) Asia, Africa, the Hole World was watching it.
This is absolutely disgraceful! Yes, Conmebol or coruptobol wears a lot of responsibility here but those people ought to be ashamed of themselves! They embarrassed themselves and their country! I hope the US puts the right measures in place before the world cup to address this! This is unsafe for families!
Rich- references Die Hard Chris- What? It's like Tom Cruise in like Mission Impossible TJ- starts humming the Mission: Impossible theme Think you missed a step...You really didn't hear Brockman say Tom Cruise?
The USA probably holds more high-profile, high-attendance sporting events every year than all of South America combined, and we do so without massive safety issues. We’ve hosted a men’s and women’s World Cup without issue. We’ve hosted Copa America before, without issue. The Olympics. Super Bowls. 81 baseball games at every baseball stadium every year. Taylor Swift concerts. Etc etc etc. Not to mention, we already have security measures in place for the World Cup in a few years, including for Hard Rock, and this is all documented that they are multi-tiered and locked down. This is fully on CONMEBOL.
I am Colombian born and yes a lot had to do with the organization but I am ashamed for these Colombian fans, that was delinquent mob behavior!, shame on those parents that show their kids that jumping off a fence unauthorized is ok! If anything else this was an opportunity to show people that Colombians are good despite the irresponsibility of the organizers but what do we do? Show the world we are still a third world country always trying to get ahead without concern of others, it’s so upsetting and embarrassing. I am always pointing this out to Colombians and for that I always get backlash, but here we show again what we are really made of. Very very sad
As a person who knows someone who was on scene , as this was happening. 90% of the crowd was Colombian. Trying to rush the stadium to enter without tickets. Perhaps acceptable in Bucaramanga , Bogota , even Cali. Not acceptable here. The message needs to be driven home , pre-2026. This could've been a (preventable) disaster. 3rd-world tier behavior should never be tolerated.
No normal football behaviour around the world. You will see this in Europe on a regular basis are you classifying, Germany, England, The Netherlands as third world countries? Just go look up Football Ultras and you will see what football is really like. The US got off lightly last time because England did not qualify and if they don't heed the warning from the weekend things could get very nasty. Oh and I'm English.
The saddest part is that Colombian Soccer team played some of its best futbol since 2014 and it’s gonna be overshadowed by this. Most of the Colombian fans doing that were American natives. Which makes it even worse. Embarrassing end to a beautiful tournament by the players and it’s not fair to them.
As someone whose family is from South America let me tell you it’s a different culture. Maybe in Europe too, I don’t know. I’ve been to so many stadiums in the US for other sports and this never happens. But the ONE time I saw a soccer match (Ecuador vs Mexico) at Metlife people were pushing forward like they wanted to bring walls down. I had to yell at people behind me, strangers just shoving me forward. Security had to bring German Shepards across the fence to keep us in order. What an embarrassment. This is EVERYONE’S fault and I’m not surprised.
I think it's spiritually an Idol in these countries, and there is literally an evil spirit driving a lot of those fans. It's not far off in America, but America still somewhat civilized in its sports, but it could go more that way in America too if things get out of hand.
@@Jbird-sx4zk Colombia and Argentina are located in the the American continent, in the south of the continent (they re not floating on the air). Therefore they are Americans from the South of America, or South Americans , same thing .
@@Courtjowhite if the ticket is over a $1K and they leave areas where people can get in for free . Then idiot is to think people won’t take advantage of that. That’s why you prepare and not let ppl without ticket close from the stadium . The checkpoints needed to be away from the stadium not in the door. Just common sense . They let 7k people get in without tickets .
But they want to suspend the uruguayn players that had to jump to the grades to protect their parents and kids, including babies from the same kind of people...
Brother, the fight was between two fans not at all involving the families. They were in a different section next to the family section. People decided to start moving the families down to the field in case anything happened. The Uruguay players jumped to the stands and started fights with the fans because they had no clue wtf was going on. It's on them. Hell, Nunez, the one fist fighting didn't even have his family up there. They had been on the field, safer and he still went up there to fist fight random fans.
The blame is on the fans, who will do anything to gain entry to the stadium, with or without tickets and on the authorities who should take all necessary steps to thwart them. Rich Eisen correctly identifies multiple tickets checks, well away from the ground, as being essential. This was the problem at Wembley in 2021 for the Euro final and at Stade de France in 2022 for the Champions League final. Football authorities have got to wake up as there could so easily have been numerous casualties.
I live in S. Florida. While Florida man is a maniac, all the international folks are rude as F and don't want to pay for anything. Is what it is, but lets blame the stadium.
What is there to pay when there weren't any tickets available for a while? And the scalpers were charging thousands of dollars per ticket. How is that okay and fair?
@@DIAC1987 - It isn't. Tickets get sold out for big events everywhere. Tickets for Taylor Swift, Beyonce, BTS, etc. are outrageously priced and many fans cannot afford to attend. But they don't just show up to the stadium and break in. Not understanding your logic.
I worked for the company(CSC) for the word series and the difference is the fans. I was told by multiple supervisors (Hispanic) that Hispanic fans will do whatever they can get away with.
@@LargeDude2023 None of those really compare to soccer...I don't know how much clearer it needs to be than what just went down. It's crazy that America is trying to play it so cool as high horse "better than you" as if Trump didn't get shot at.
There was supposed to be a Fanfest area where the fans without tickets were going, but that was canceled. Doesn't make it right to try to get in without tickets but the Fanfest would have prevented this.
@@voiceofreason2674 - Voice of reason? Really?? … because your infrastructure is limited to a parking lot next to the stadium. How to keep people entertained if there are no access to bathrooms, food and beverages in a hot environment in nowhere land? That’s the same way you treat refugees at your borders - to keep them away. During the EURO 2024 you had fan fest's everywhere, and those were managed the same way as the games themself. You deal with the greatest sport on this planet, not with a WorldChampionship look-alike egg ball kicking "Super Bowl".
I watched a vlog by Tactical Manager a prominent soccer RU-vidr about it… zero security… not a single cop in the whole video he’s just locked out the whole time and finally just goes home even though he had tickets.
You have to separate the tailgate area from the entry area. A fence falls down at a SuperBowl stadium and hundreds of tailgaters without tickets will enter the stadium.
Look, us simple. Over 100 years of Copa America, and this NEVER happened. The 3 and 4 rings of entrance it's an standards in all big league of football worldwide, not only big events like that. The organisation is held between Conmebol requirements and the country hosting the event capabilities. If the country can't meet this requirements it can't host it. If don't deliver it get penalty. Security is one of those. Hard Rock Stadium OR USA football association didn't do what every other host did before them. So, ITS THEIR FAULT. And Hard Rock Stadium OR USA football association must be held responsible and punished.
We’d rather not, thank you very much. Especially if this is commonplace. What’s that much maligned quote from a few years ago? “They’re not sending their best…”
Remind me of the deadhead back in the 80s - one guy jumps over the wall at Giant Stadium and gets surrounded by security-followed by an unstoppable flood of merry pranksters.
It happen at the champions league final and it was the “local youth “ the problem is mass immigration from third world countries turning first world countries into cesspools.
Bad fan behavior is a problem in a lot of sports but the lack of security and the mess in the organization is on the hosts (venues/cities) and organizers. I think they don't know the attention and mass expectation a big soccer tournament brings so they dismiss the level of organization and the amount of security needed, when in reality it needs as much if not more security than the SB. They better figure it out because the magnitude of a Worl Cup is like 10 times the SB and fans go absolutely CRAZY for it , Copa America is child's play in comparison.
You are talking about superbowl experience. Did you noticed the crowd when they arrived to the hotel? This is not just a soccer game. This is NOT a superbowl experience. This is typical for soccer.
It’s silly to compare super ball or soccer game especially Copa America. The passion and craziness is a part of the soccer culture and what makes it the greatest sport in the world.
Argentina is the Word Champion of Soccer, Messi the best player in the World. That is why if it is typical of soccer as you say it should have been better organized. I Qatar this did not happen
0:59 "Why would so many people show up without tickets?" LOL. They obviously could care less about such a trivial formality as having a ticket. It's a different mentality entirely.
They promised a big fanfest watch party outside, then cancelled...This was literally a huge ball drop on organization and care. All the ingredients were there for mobs to form.
Ticket master cancelled and resold tickets. So there were a lot of people with the flight and hotel paid. They had to go anyway and try to buy a ticket there.
Europe & South America: The National Federation will be involved. Police Authorities have to give a green light and are involved from day one. Having Riot Police close by is Default. America: Its not a US Problem, we ordered an international tournament on TEMU. How dare they! Shakira and CONMEBOL are so powerful. We had to surrender! Ugly Fans. We wanted MLS weekend fans.
Fan behaviour. Disregarding their nationality or the team they were supporting, there is a clear lack of education, culture, mindset about behaviour in public places, events, a sickening feeling of entitlement from playing against the rules. You name it. It's simply disgraceful. Needless to say, as a Colombian, I feel embarrassed of what these people did. They do not represent us.
National teams playing each other in the final of a once in 4 years soccer tournament is emotionally so much bigger than any football game. And thats me, a polite German, saying that. Have you ever seen South American crowds ? No surprise at all for anyone who ever watched it.
So to add to the hundreds of opinions out there saying this, if this is all apparently known by so many people, why in the world did they not prepare for it like other lesser events do? It was embarrassing for both nations. Why go to a game and trash an escalator… Absolutely ridiculous.
The world baseball championship took place in Miami 2022 I believe. Involving teams from all over the world. An event that last several days and not just one. Not a problem. This falls on the fans imo
See the problem is Americans compare a Major Continental Final between two rival nations, that only happens once every 4 years to just an annual Superbowl in the local league.