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The Olympics are in a crisis - no one wants to host the Games anymore. After decades of fierce competitions, only 2 cities ended up in contention for the 2024 Games; Paris and LA. Worried that no one would bid for 2028, the Olympics gave them both a Games. This video will use economic data, archive, and expert analysis to explain how the most prestigious sporting event in the world got too far over its skis and how it plans to get cities interested in hosting again.
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Комментарии : 7 тыс.   
@Owlr4ider
@Owlr4ider Месяц назад
To sum it up, the host cities take all the risk, the IOC takes all the rewards.
@Parlimant_Strifey
@Parlimant_Strifey Месяц назад
didn't even mention the part where the committee members were getting bribes from foolish people in the bidding. Yes, deal with those zero ethics & morals IOC members...instead of avoiding them like a plague.
@__jack________________2225
@__jack________________2225 Месяц назад
Best comment so far.
@qj0n
@qj0n Месяц назад
It's too certain to call it a risk, it's a damage
@jankisi
@jankisi Месяц назад
Just like the UEFA
@Owlr4ider
@Owlr4ider Месяц назад
@@jankisi Yes, but on a massively larger scale. UEFA Champions' League requires just 1 stadium for a single night and decent infrastructure: roads and public transportation, for everyone(the teams, staff, press, spectators, etc) to enter and leave the stadium in a decent enough manner. The Olympic Village on the other hand is orders of magnitude more demanding than that. Multiple stadiums hosting events over multiple weeks. Athletes, staff, press, etc, living in the city throughout the runtime of the event. Much more infrastructure is required, etc.
@averytucker790
@averytucker790 Месяц назад
Imagine being in a country where everyone wanted the main city to spend $5 billion on better housing, but the city said no. Yet when the Olympics was said to be held in that country. The City agreed to spend $52.6 Billion on a stadium, high speed rail system, and 30 luxury hotels for the athletes. I'm not surprised people protest against these games. Infact, I'm surprised more people don't protest against these games.
@SnifferSock
@SnifferSock Месяц назад
How does spending money on "better housing" work? People are supposed to pay to house themselves, what can the city do about it?
@techpriestsalok8119
@techpriestsalok8119 Месяц назад
@@SnifferSocksubsidize them, incentivize builders to build cheaper/smaller houses, punish groups artificially racking up housing prices, build better public infrastructure that allows for more housing area to be utilized, etc. There is a whole lot the city government can do to help with housing issues, for every option I listed at least 10 reasonable sub options or full options exist.
@luisenriqueperezperez3193
@luisenriqueperezperez3193 Месяц назад
@@SnifferSock I'll give you an example. I'm from the Dominican Republic, we have something here called "Housing Bonus". That is a governmental subsidy that the government provides to FIRST TIME home buyers which is somewhere between USD$3-6K that can be applied to complete a missing part of the 10% down payment of a house/apartment or directly to the housing loan if the buyer has the complete down payment. What's the catch? Simple, the house/apartment has to cost USD$100k or less. This incentivizes construction companies to build low cost houses/apartments since this is essentially a guaranteed influx of buyers. The DR is now incredibly full of giant low cost apartment complexes, which makes it incredibly accessible for anyone to get their first house/apartment.
@Elmaestrodemusica
@Elmaestrodemusica Месяц назад
Chicago, until we protested it down ....
@averytucker790
@averytucker790 Месяц назад
@@techpriestsalok8119 Sir or Madam you're exactly 2,115% correct.
@mikatu
@mikatu Месяц назад
We keep avoiding the main problem. The main way cities lose money with the Games is because the IOC takes a lot of money and they spend zero! They should pay the cities to host, not charge them for the Games. In fact, the way the cities won the bids in the past was by bribing the IOC officials. When your process includes bribing something is not right.
@badkarmabaroo
@badkarmabaroo Месяц назад
Exactly. The IOC also includes stupid ass demands in their contracts with host cities: create separate lanes on all roads that will only be used by IOC personnel; the IOC commissioner must be greeted ceremonially at the tarmac (and hotel) when s/he arrives; IOC must have separate entrances to the airport. Crazy shit.
@subscribetopizzatheonlyrea7322
@subscribetopizzatheonlyrea7322 Месяц назад
@@badkarmabaroo ahahhaha thats bizarre
@TheAnimeist
@TheAnimeist Месяц назад
@@badkarmabaroo The IOCC is corrupt no doubt. But who knows? Those demands may be put in place to see if the contract was read in full detail. Like what Van Halen used to do with brown M&Ms being removed from the bowl.
@z-beeblebrox
@z-beeblebrox Месяц назад
This is also why a permanent venue solution has been avoided for so long. Because that WOULD require the IOC to foot the bill in some manner.
@nutmeg208
@nutmeg208 Месяц назад
Yeah, the Olympic Committee should change their business model to one that also raises money.
@kevindavies189
@kevindavies189 Месяц назад
It’s really sad to see the state of many of these facilities. Here in Sydney, Olympic Park is still immaculate and frequently put to good use. It’s an area to be proud of.
@KatieBellino
@KatieBellino Месяц назад
That's great to hear! It seems like certain cities/countries are more capable of hosting. Sydney, LA, it seems like Paris has the venues and finances.
@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru
@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru 26 дней назад
​@@KatieBellinoI am not so sure about Paris given the current news of the place
@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru
@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru 26 дней назад
@@flmis The seine river in particular comes to mind ,swimmers had to swim through a river with dangerous levels of e-coli and coincidentally they got sick
@AllMenMustServe
@AllMenMustServe 25 дней назад
@@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru But that was actually a good thing about the Olympics in Paris. Swimming in the Seine has been prohibited since 1923 because the water has been too toxic. They invested a whooping €1.4b to clean up the river. They just didn't complete the programme on time. But it will eventually be done and that's a good thing for the city. However, financially speaking, the Olympics as a whole is not profitable at all. And I mean for the City/Country itself, because for the IOC it is indeed highly profitable because they are the ones taking all the immediate revenue. Even for a city like Paris who only had to build 2 new venues and will definitely use those and not let them die like many host cities did previously, the daunty challenges of hosting such an event aren't covered by the global exposure and tourism the comes from it. Paris realized $8,7bn in Investments which will probably not be reimbursed with Cash Flows resulting from such investments in next few generations of population. Olympic Games are expensive, and French public finances are not in the best state. But hey, they hosted the Olympics, who cares? The big guys who wanted the Olympics hosted there probably earned some indirectly from it and will still be rich afterwards. But the common citizen, who only wants an healthy economy and the country to prosper will be the ones paying the debt for years to come through taxes. The insane amount of money invested on just logistics of planning the Olympics is enough to make something actual worth in the city/country. Like invest on healthcare, transportation, housing etc.
@kali7055
@kali7055 24 дня назад
Same in Munich, the Olympic Park here is iconic and full of people almost every day. The swimming and ice sport facilities in the park are actively used by the general public. There are frequent open air events in the park and concerts and sports games in the Olympic Stadium. People like to gather in the hills around the Olympic Stadium to have picnics and enjoy free concerts (Like the recent Taylor Swift one where over 30.000 people gathered in the hills outside). Our former Olympic Villages have become affordable housing for mainly students and are almost full.
@Azamat78726
@Azamat78726 Месяц назад
Why olympics are hosted by only 1 city instead of whole country ? Hosting it as a country might solve some issues like infrastructure and environment.
@s2Capacidade2s
@s2Capacidade2s Месяц назад
Technically they are hosted by the country and not by just one city, because for example this year you have events that will happen all across France, not only in Paris, including in Tahiti.
@NiallMcEvoy05
@NiallMcEvoy05 Месяц назад
Absolutely and would allow smaller countries to host aswell. Irish person here with a dream.
@xungnham1388
@xungnham1388 Месяц назад
They are hosted by the hole country. The host city is just where the main stadiums are. But they use stadiums hundreds of miles away. When Atlanta held the '96 games, they used soccer stadiums as far away as Miami and DC. Same thing is going to happen at the '24 games; they are using soccer stadiums in Marseille, Lyon, Bordeaux, St Etienne, Nice, Nantes. They will have basketball and handball in Lille. Rowing and kayak in Vaires-sur-Marne. They're even holding the surfing events in Tahiti, the french territory in the Pacific ocean.
@fod2011
@fod2011 Месяц назад
​@@NiallMcEvoy05 Coolock
@nosignal88
@nosignal88 Месяц назад
1000%
@savannahm.laurentian1286
@savannahm.laurentian1286 Месяц назад
They used to utilize mostly existing facilities. Now they build dorms & venues. It's insanely wasteful.
@bipolarminddroppings
@bipolarminddroppings Месяц назад
That's not even true. Did you watch the video? That happened for ONE Olympics.
@giraffestreet
@giraffestreet Месяц назад
More and more sports added into the game
@EstParum
@EstParum Месяц назад
Brazil built stuff for the Olympics​@@bipolarminddroppings
@OK-hl6qd
@OK-hl6qd Месяц назад
@@bipolarminddroppings you didn't watch the video
@BuurmanDirk69
@BuurmanDirk69 Месяц назад
​@@bipolarminddroppings ah yes. Sydney, Athens, Beijing... Only one olympics
@thomascho8132
@thomascho8132 Месяц назад
There isn't a strong demand to host because while the IOC stands to make billions from broadcasting right and advertising, the cities that host them are usually left in debt.
@joelmilten
@joelmilten Месяц назад
I feel like this wasn't emphasized enough. From what I've heard, too much of the money from food and merchandise sales go directly into the IOC's pockets. Not enough goes into the local economy.
@freewaynicky5569
@freewaynicky5569 Месяц назад
For every winner...there has to be a loser
@Monitice
@Monitice Месяц назад
@@freewaynicky5569 Every floor ... has to be made out of floor.
@KhanMann66
@KhanMann66 Месяц назад
Did people forget what happened in Rio 2016? So many new stadiums went up only to be abandoned once the games are over. A huge waste of time.
@ad-t-dude
@ad-t-dude Месяц назад
The revenue from broadcasting rights used to be split evenly between the IOC and the organizing committees of the specific individual games. Then the IOC decided to keep ALL broadcasting revenue which is very lucrative especially in the United States. This is a major cause of their current problem finding host cities. This is even more so for the Winter Games. Now, it is my understanding, that they are sharing some of the broadcasting revenue as an incentive to get host cities.
@Zezetheb
@Zezetheb Месяц назад
Kind of surprised Salt Lake City wasn’t brought up as an example of how to do them well. All venues that were used in the 2002 Olympics are still being used today, and are planning to be used again in the 2034 Olympics. Also, I think it’s one of the few cities that did actually benefit from that “legacy” idea. The games absolutely put Salt lake on the map, and it has since become even more of a pro sports training / competing / recreational destination.
@hanguhbur
@hanguhbur 28 дней назад
I was wondering the same thing. I suspect it was conveniently not mentioned because it didn't fit the narrative of this video.
@getoffamylan6844
@getoffamylan6844 26 дней назад
I am literally going to an ISU short track event in the Olympic oval later today, and my 11 year old is currently taking speed skating classes in that same facility.
@kerstinanderson6172
@kerstinanderson6172 25 дней назад
I was looking to see if this comment was made and glad I was not disappointed. Yeah, the SLC Olympics was purposely left off. Boo!
@dh1952
@dh1952 23 дня назад
Yea they purposely ignored the successes of SLC, Atlanta, Barcelona, Lake Placid, London
@SeeJay1986
@SeeJay1986 22 дня назад
it seems like North American athletes have benefited the most from their winter olympic games as the venues post games end up being the perfect training facility for alpine sports. In Canada, Calgary Alberta ended up being exactly that, and just as their facilities started to get outdated, the city of Vancouver and Whistler in British-Columbia hosted the games with updated modern facilities in the latest technologies. ..Turin Italy struggled after cause of proximity competition facilities in other countries who dominate in alpine sports.
@harpgrewal8203
@harpgrewal8203 Месяц назад
They are a huge scam which leaves the host in debt for decades.
@captainAlex258
@captainAlex258 Месяц назад
or millennia since canada barely has nothing at all, I really need to find a small town for my l.a.noire tv series
@hybridstryker233
@hybridstryker233 Месяц назад
💯💯💯
@Clippidyclappidy
@Clippidyclappidy Месяц назад
On top of the fact modern Olympia is literally just Goebbels propaganda and is just rebranded eugenics. As in the same Goebbels who was propaganda minister of 1930s Germany.
@larsonfamilyhouse
@larsonfamilyhouse Месяц назад
And make athletes bear the burden of all the costs.
@bridgetbinion8494
@bridgetbinion8494 Месяц назад
Plus everyone wants to kiss Russia's ass even though they are cheaters.
@FrancisSiuChock
@FrancisSiuChock Месяц назад
Isn't it time for the corrupt IOC to start paying cities to host game?
@rosstheboss8633
@rosstheboss8633 Месяц назад
they don't have 25 billion dollars XD
@simonjenkins5738
@simonjenkins5738 Месяц назад
@@rosstheboss8633then the question we should be asking is do we even need an Olympic Games?
@Rei-xq3zm
@Rei-xq3zm Месяц назад
@@simonjenkins5738alternatively, does each game ACTUALLY need to cost so much?
@saikat93ify
@saikat93ify Месяц назад
@@simonjenkins5738The Olympics are a wonderful opportunity for a lot of sportsmen to show case their skills in a global platform. It also inspires many people. Almost all olympians have an inspiring journey behind them. The goal of the Olympics inspires a lot of people as well. I don’t know about the economic side but it’s definitely a great event worth having.
@musyarofah1
@musyarofah1 Месяц назад
@@saikat93ify then you don't watch the video at all.
@smurfcatcher
@smurfcatcher Месяц назад
Love the explination that the host city is able to show itself off to the world. Yes, because nobody has ever heard of Paris France or Los Angeles California.
@YRS24
@YRS24 Месяц назад
lol spot on
@user-zw5jj2uf1p
@user-zw5jj2uf1p Месяц назад
In that sense it may help developing countries more. The first time I heard of Rio de Janeiro was through the 2014 World Cup
@thrusta100
@thrusta100 Месяц назад
Brisbane tho? Now they wanna hand em back, can’t even decide on a stadium 🏟 😮
@thebeautificationclub8578
@thebeautificationclub8578 Месяц назад
Toronto Canada has never hosted. I'd love if they did since I'm in the GTA
@Madjiul
@Madjiul Месяц назад
Everyone’s heard of Paris France but it’s had a shit reputation over the last few years. So I think the decision would be somewhat to do with trying to save their international PR😂
@mogerus
@mogerus Месяц назад
Holding the Olympics in a permanent place is a practical and cost-effective idea; and holding it in Greece would be symbolic. Sports, no matter where it's held, is still a crowd drawer. Like the Superbowl and the World Cup, they can still earn revenue as long as they allow sponsors.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng Месяц назад
Greece does not have the financial resources to host every time. Also, hosting the Games in one country for every Olympic Games is in violation of the Olympic Charter.
@KatieBellino
@KatieBellino Месяц назад
@@RaymondHng I'd assume that if you went to a permanent venue in Greece, the IOC would have to start footing the bill for that venue. Every nation would contribute to the fund through athlete entry fees and ticket sales would go right to upkeep.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng Месяц назад
@@KatieBellino A significant portion of the broadcasting rights revenue collected by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is allocated towards the staging of future Olympic Games. Specifically, the IOC redistributes about 90% of its revenue to support the organization of the Olympic Games, as well as the development of the Olympic Movement around the world. General breakdown of how the IOC allocates its broadcasting rights revenue: Organizing Committees for the Olympic Games (OCOGs): Approximately 50% of the revenue is provided to the host city organizing committees to cover the costs of staging the Olympic Games. (For the 2024 Paris Olympics, approximately 27% of the budget is covered by the International Olympic Committee (IOC). The IOC's total contribution to the Paris 2024 Games amounts to $1.7 billion, of which $855 million comes from revenues generated through broadcast agreements​)​. The overall budget for organizing the Paris Olympics is primarily sourced from private sector funding, including the IOC, partnerships, ticket sales, and licensing, covering nearly all the costs of the event​ ) National Olympic Committees (NOCs): Around 10% is distributed to NOCs to help fund their operations and support their athletes. International Sports Federations (IFs): About 10% is allocated to the IFs to support the development of their respective sports globally. Olympic Solidarity: A portion is dedicated to Olympic Solidarity, which funds programs to support athletes and promote the Olympic values worldwide, especially in countries with fewer resources. The remaining revenue covers the operational and administrative costs of the IOC and other initiatives to promote the Olympic Movement. This revenue structure ensures that a large majority of the funds generated through broadcasting rights are reinvested into the continued success and growth of the Olympic Games and sports globally.
@bilbowilbo9849
@bilbowilbo9849 Месяц назад
@@KatieBellino Participating nations would help fund the maintenance of all the venues if say, Athens were to be the permanent host city. Greece itself might provide the security and/or misc. costs. Agree, the IOC model needs to change. Amazes me that LA got the 28 Games with the Calif. economy in deficit.
@KatieBellino
@KatieBellino Месяц назад
@@bilbowilbo9849 As demonstrated in 1984, LA is a unique city because it has almost all of the facilities to host the games without building much in the way of new structures...the stadiums and colleges are numerous. A poor American economy is still easily able to provide the food and materials needed for the games.
@faerydae29
@faerydae29 Месяц назад
In Brazil it was a disasters. Thousands were forced out of their homes in the poor areas so it could get torn down to build Olympic Venues. Now the venues sit empty. It’s extremely expensive, wasteful, and it hurts the locals! I agree with having multiple nearby countries hosting the event to be able to use exiting Venues, or just have a permanent location in Greece. Times have changed, we can all travel now.
@blor3664
@blor3664 Месяц назад
It would probably boost Greece's economy but you forget winter Olympics.
@Jeloquence
@Jeloquence Месяц назад
Having one permanent location would be the best idea for several reasons. But isn't it a little of an advantage to preform in your home country? Seeing all the french supporters in the stands this year, is a big boost for the athletes to do really well. You don't want to lose in front of so many people who cheer for you. Also preforming in your own timezone and climate would be kind of an advantage, right? I think, maybe it should rotate certain cities respectfully, every continent gets one city. And maybe in Europe (because, let's be honest, it's small in the great scheme of things) it can span a couple of countries with the best facilities.
@jasewilliams14
@jasewilliams14 Месяц назад
@@Jeloquence I didn't see any advantages at the Paris Olympics. All I see on social media is people complaining about events, athletes, and boycotting France or purchasing anything from there.
@myyou7335
@myyou7335 Месяц назад
​@@blor3664 I don't see a problem here. Winter Olympics is done separately and they can just go to whichever country is big on snow. or Ice. . .Also they should split indoor and outdoor winter olympics if they need to.
@TheManofthecross
@TheManofthecross Месяц назад
yep and much more. also with ww3 being a risk as it is. the games might be suspended out right.
@kirbyrules55
@kirbyrules55 Месяц назад
I live "in" LA. the 1984 olympics were so sucessful that they made a fund for under privileged kids to give them really cheap tennis lessons. I used to teach those. The charge was 10 dollars for 4 1-hour lessons for 6 weeks, so 24 total lessons, group style. Now-a-days group lessons are 30 a piece or more and more than 100 an hour for a private lessons so you can understand how cheap 10 dollars is for 24 lessons. The LA 84 olympics' fund paid for the rest. This fund STILL EXISTS in 2024 and kids still get to benefit from it across LA, meaning hundreds of lessons each week.
@garfieldsmith332
@garfieldsmith332 Месяц назад
That was 40 years ago. So much expense, kickbacks and corruption in the Olympics of today.
@KallyReeder
@KallyReeder Месяц назад
That's awesome 🎉
@H0mework
@H0mework Месяц назад
Very cool thx for sharing.
@Shark-pj8in
@Shark-pj8in Месяц назад
10 dollars is more now tho
@OscarUnrated
@OscarUnrated Месяц назад
@@garfieldsmith332 it’s not like there wasn’t corruption in the 80s. Iran-contra affair
@NostalgiCrazy
@NostalgiCrazy 23 дня назад
At this point, the most practical thing is to reuse all existing venues. It's cost effective and there are plenty of cities to rotate every 2-4 years. Some comments have mentioned just having 1 or 2 permanent locations, but the people that have spent so much money, time, and labor to build all those venues deserve to see their work at future Olympics again.
@patrickorourke41
@patrickorourke41 Месяц назад
I researched LA84 extensively for a project in my CA Culture class in college. It was a wild success thanks to everyone from top to bottom, especially Peter Ueberroth. There was also a MASSIVE volunteer force that helped run the games. Los Angeles refused to take a single tax dollar and funded the whole games through corporate sponsorship. The only real money spent came out of the initial fund started by Ueberroth. LA only had to build two new venues and modify a few existing ones. At the end of the games they netted over $200M in profit, and that led to the creation of the LA84 Foundation, which went on to create a ton of youth sports programs in Sourhern CA. That’s what you call a legacy👏👏👏👏
@caellencaellen1958
@caellencaellen1958 Месяц назад
And they were inspired by the success of the frugal Depression-era LA Games of 1932, don't forget!
@Jigamanx2
@Jigamanx2 Месяц назад
Now that’s a model with pursing. Have all these money hungry corporations pay for the event. Sell it ass a more exclusive advertisement than the Super Bowl (for the US) and watch the free Olympic money roll in to do cool things for the hosts city
@kaleimaile
@kaleimaile Месяц назад
I hope it will be a good one again in 2028. I got to go to the Gold medal baseball game: USA vs Japan (Japan won) @ the Dodger stadium.
@steveroberts9453
@steveroberts9453 Месяц назад
Apologies for Zola Budd.
@wavelength0123
@wavelength0123 Месяц назад
What about the efforts taken to clean up the streets of LA for the games to make the city "presentable" to foreign nations?
@ogog7780
@ogog7780 Месяц назад
Almost 50 years later, Montreal is still paying for the Olympic stadium 😵‍💫
@EdT.-xt6yv
@EdT.-xt6yv Месяц назад
Ahi caramba!
@lordemelodrama4203
@lordemelodrama4203 Месяц назад
Here in Brazil we will probably continue paying for this for at least another century.
Месяц назад
i LIVE IN MONTREAL QUEBEC, CANADA. WE HAD THE SUMMER OLYMPICS BACK IN 1976. WE ARE STILL PAYING FOR THEM BY THE MILLION$ EVERY YEAR. THAT IS 48 YEARS LATER. DO NOT EVEN TRY TO GET THE OLYMPICS, EVER.
@CD3MC
@CD3MC Месяц назад
didn't they fully pay it off last year?
@burmesepython393
@burmesepython393 Месяц назад
No. It was paid off 3 decades later (2006)
@clickbait3753
@clickbait3753 Месяц назад
My econ professor told our class how he was hired by the city of boston to consult them about the potential pros and cons of an olympic bid they were considering. He didnt give a recommendation of either going forward with the bid or not, but he said that within 48 hours they had withdrawn their bid for the olympics. That was all I needed to know lol.
@MNIU_
@MNIU_ Месяц назад
So he was hired to do a job and didn’t do it?
@lyyila0256
@lyyila0256 Месяц назад
@@MNIU_ Sounds like he just gave a list of pros and cons without a formal advisory recommendation either way, just that the list of cons were so bad that he didn't need to give a recommendation for them to realise it was bad
@Emileigggggh
@Emileigggggh Месяц назад
As someone who lives in Boston, can confirm that the Olympics being here would be an absolute nightmare lol
@phoenix5054
@phoenix5054 Месяц назад
​@@lyyila0256 It's a tragedy how some people don't have the ability to comprehend a paragraph-long post.
@jamesprumos7775
@jamesprumos7775 Месяц назад
I'm glad your professor gave an honest assessment of the bid.
@roygoodhand1301
@roygoodhand1301 Месяц назад
You forgot something: Denver 1976... In a statewide referendum on 7 November 1972, Colorado voters rejected funding for the games, and for the first (and only) time a city awarded the Winter Games rejected them.
@AntonioCDias-bh7ns
@AntonioCDias-bh7ns Месяц назад
I am brasilian and it really hurts that my country spent so many with olympiads and soccer word cup while we have so many people in poverty without education or health care adequate.
@cesarin3592
@cesarin3592 Месяц назад
Yeah, i'm mexican but i remember watching all the protest on tv. I was very worry about things going mad after the end of the semifinal against germany in 2014 cause your politicians risked the economy and stability of your country just to get ,maybe, the worst humilliation of your national team in football
@Tokru86
@Tokru86 Месяц назад
@@cesarin3592 7:1, never forget. the best football game ever :)
@AntonioCDias-bh7ns
@AntonioCDias-bh7ns Месяц назад
@@cesarin3592 They SOLD the game : don't forget Neymar pretended a contusion in the mach before for get out of the shame!!!!
@MatheusFernandes-xf4zm
@MatheusFernandes-xf4zm Месяц назад
"agro-exportador" significa, sem desenvolvimento.
@M86KIA
@M86KIA Месяц назад
Olympic games are just for rich spoiled anglo and lapdogs countries to brag about their "superiority" after winning medals. A waste of time and effort to spend money in most categories to participate against rivals with great advantage in power and money, much less hosting those games or events. It's playing with lag against Europeans/USA servers from southamerica... jaja Maybe few medals can be won but doesn't wroth the effort. If the "first world" countries would be in our shoes they would refuse to participate to do their own thing. They just like to set the rules, collect the spoils and ban countries like Russia from sports/olympics due hegemony issues.
@uncleremus64
@uncleremus64 Месяц назад
Montreal 1976 was a debacle. I visited Montreal in 2009, and on a guided tour of the Olympic village, the guide said the city was still (at that time) repaying the debt from the 1976 Olympics.
Месяц назад
i LIVE IN MONTREAL QUEBEC, CANADA. WE HAD THE SUMMER OLYMPICS BACK IN 1976. WE ARE STILL PAYING FOR THEM BY THE MILLION$ EVERY YEAR. THAT IS 48 YEARS LATER. DO NOT EVEN TRY TO GET THE OLYMPICS, EVER.
@KnugLidi
@KnugLidi Месяц назад
Thanks to the incredible corruption during the construction phase.
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy Месяц назад
​@@KnugLidi That's pretty standard for Montreal, unfortunately
@NoName-md6fd
@NoName-md6fd Месяц назад
The thing I heard about it, was that concrete trucks would pass a border to say they were going to unload the concrete (for constuction) as to get paid by the load, but didn't unload the cargo at all. They would then pass that border 2 or 3 times and rack up the profit. Yeah, it was bad and we are stuck with the olympic stadium.
@haroldb1856
@haroldb1856 Месяц назад
The Olympic stadium in Montreal is called the Big Owe.
@jaredhuang2225
@jaredhuang2225 Месяц назад
LA is unique in that it already has almost every venue needed for the summer games. The only expensive things they are building are long overdue improvements to public transportation.
@dt7353
@dt7353 Месяц назад
Should just stay there forever.
@danielzhang1916
@danielzhang1916 Месяц назад
they should limit it to LA and other former hosts, not every city is able to host such a big event
@barmybarmecide5390
@barmybarmecide5390 Месяц назад
Hardly unique, this is the situation Paris finds itself in. Most the budget has gone into public transport links, cleaning the river and restoring historic sites. The olympic village will be social housing after the games and be a part of a larger estate later
@EdDunkle
@EdDunkle Месяц назад
Paris has a ton of venues and an actual river. It's probably the best site for the Olympics.
@cattysplat
@cattysplat Месяц назад
LA has infinite money cheat unlike every other place in the world.
@dwayne5352
@dwayne5352 Месяц назад
I think rotating the Games among a list of 6 cities (one in each inhabitable continent) would be a good strategy. Every number of years, a new city might show its interest and contest a bid.
@lilyrolyat6726
@lilyrolyat6726 Месяц назад
This is a great idea imo
@crashthevacuum
@crashthevacuum Месяц назад
Exactly. LA for North America, Rio for South America etc. Plus Athens every 7 cycles. Have a set number of sports (don't add one without getting rid of another) also.
@dwayne5352
@dwayne5352 Месяц назад
@@crashthevacuum I agree. If the model that exists is threatening the very sustainability of the Games, then a more logical model must be embraced. I'm sure this stability would provide a lot of advantages as it relates to planning and preparation.
@christianvandegraaf9844
@christianvandegraaf9844 Месяц назад
Using existing venues isn't enough. Oslo wanted to bid for the 26 winter games, and was well on its way with a plan to use the existing infrastructure and venues, merely needing to build athlete housing which would be transformed into student housing later. Problem was that the IOC list of demands beyond just the sportive was leaked and it was absolutely insane. Things like wanting unobstructed car transport to each venue, 5 star hotels for executives, free helicopter transport, tropical fruits in arctic norway, meetings with the king and prime minister etc. Once that was seen, all public support for the bid evaporated.
@db5094
@db5094 Месяц назад
wtf
@josepheridu3322
@josepheridu3322 Месяц назад
entitlement inflation
@janejustin1788
@janejustin1788 Месяц назад
tropical fruits in Arctic Norway, meetings with the king .....wtf
@davestang5454
@davestang5454 Месяц назад
Understand that the IOC is run by very corrupt, greedy individuals these days. The "Los Angeles 1984" plan did not take for future games because as more and more players jumped in the event and they realized more and more ways to PROFIT off the games, the original focus, the ATHLETES and the sporting competitions themselves, became secondary. I think this has been made very clear for the 2024 Paris Olympics, featuring an opening ceremony that was ridiculously extravagant.
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 Месяц назад
Yeah, most of the demands had nothing to do with the actual events or athletes, it was about insanely expensive coddling of the IOC members and executives. I remember the helicopter rides. Also each had to have their own luxury car with private chauffeur, an iPhone with unlimited use, 5-star hotel suites for all, luxury meeting rooms on numerous locations with a specified temperature and specified accessories right down to the fruit and snacks they demanded in every room, whether it was used or not. Just the demands to the catering of them was beyond beliefs, down to the slightest detail, that would be more expensive than the most pricey restaurant in the world. And it just kept going for 100s of pages of outrageous and expensive demands.
@rody2k6
@rody2k6 Месяц назад
As a Brazilian and resident of Rio , I can confirm that our Olympic legacy is bullshit. Even Maracanã stadium which was shown in this video with horrible pitch took a few years after the game to finally be stabilized. I went to the games and found it awesome but the lasting effects were and are complete crap
@murlocanonyme6455
@murlocanonyme6455 Месяц назад
I heard that the city of Rio is in debt for something like 300 years just to built the Maracanã, is it true or is it exagerated ?
@rody2k6
@rody2k6 Месяц назад
@@murlocanonyme6455 no no that is not true. The last management company actually owes the state of Rio money. To save the stadium they basically had to get two football clubs Flamengo and Fluminense to take over the stadium. It’s a really convoluted story but the info that you got is wrong, fortunately.
@christianbolisca1493
@christianbolisca1493 Месяц назад
This was happening at the same time as a massive corruption scandal with Lula and Rousseff.
@bobdrooples
@bobdrooples Месяц назад
The old stadium had it's rebar rotting from piss though...its an upgrade?
@rody2k6
@rody2k6 Месяц назад
@@bobdrooples you mean Maracanã pre 2014 World Cup ?
@70mavgr
@70mavgr Месяц назад
We hosted the 2004 Olympics in Athens, got universal praise and left with billion euro installations rotting away with no use whatsoever. The only positives where the expedite of the metro infrastructure and the tram system.
@goodshipkaraboudjan
@goodshipkaraboudjan Месяц назад
It's the same in Sydney. The village and venues are in the middle of no where and a constant issue.
@greywell2982
@greywell2982 Месяц назад
@@goodshipkaraboudjan As an american, I have researched the rio and there is a issue as well.
@esmeraldagreengate4354
@esmeraldagreengate4354 Месяц назад
​@@goodshipkaraboudjan closing ceremony was a great party though 😁
@mikejones-go8vz
@mikejones-go8vz Месяц назад
Greece should stage it every time and every competing nation should contribute. The stadia and infrastructure would be already built and used every time
@dutchuncle2716
@dutchuncle2716 Месяц назад
@@mikejones-go8vz Why Greece? The modern Olympics are founded by a French man, and have nothing to do with Olympic Games of Ancient Greece except for the name.
@lucsanaraujo
@lucsanaraujo 29 дней назад
If the idea of an Olympic permanent city goes forward, I think a good solution to keep the excitement of the Games is making local-themed editions, as if the chosen country/city becomes the event's Master of Ceremony, responsible to organize the event right there not only at the ceremonies and brand identity, but also to decorate, to make expositions, presentations, experiences, conventions, etc. around the whole city during that time; ensuring the infrastructure stuff would be exclusively organized by the IOC. It would be less expensive for a local Olympic Comitee and virtually zero costs for the public authorities, would attract countries that had never had a single chance to host (or even thought in bidding) to show their culture to the world and would leave visitors watching the event motivated to visit that country soon after ending the Games.
@cerebrummaximus3762
@cerebrummaximus3762 26 дней назад
A permanent spot for an Olympic city, but the chosen "host" country decorates it based on local traditions and landmarks? Would have been an excellent idea! ...a few years ago. You see what's happening with France and Qatar (eventhough not the Olympics). Nobody's hosting a ceremony based on their local countries traditions, rather preferring a generic splendour bombast to wow the audience than something ethnic, and when they do focus on local traditions, it goes in disaster, such as the recent scandal of France mocking their own historical figures (and also the Last Supper, though Da Vinci is Italian). You can see a similar trend with other world competitions, such as Eurovision. It would have been cool if the songs and dances were themed to each of the countries' cultures, but it's just a generic contest. Some countries have done more local-themed songs. I'm not suggesting a full folk song competition, just have the pop songs more local themed, but darn it, Russia went full on and hired folklore grandmother singers one year, and that was good - however, sadly even this is no longer plausible, with countries such as the Ireland controversy straight up mocking their own culture. It's sad.
@nicoladc89
@nicoladc89 24 дня назад
@@cerebrummaximus3762 It would be very very different if the "host" country was Botswana, which could never host an Olympics. The Olympic Games are one of the very few things that unite all of humanity, what could be more perfectly Olympic than an Olympic center built, maintained, financed by everyone? Wouldn't it be perfectly in the olympic spirit to give visibility to small nations that could never host an olympics? It would also be very interesting from a sporting point of view, always the same route for the marathon, always the same route for road cycling, always the same regatta field for sailing, the same pool for swimming, the same track for athletics. The only problem would be football, because you couldn't build 5/6/7 stadiums, but nobody gives a shit about Olympic football, it's worth less than the Europa League, they could even abolish it.
@lukemullet
@lukemullet Месяц назад
Slight correction on London. They originally said there wouldn't be a football team in the stadium and would be used for athletics only. They soon realised though that it wouldn't be financially viable and practically handed the stadium to a football team just so they didn't have huge costs each year.
@MrWillyMrBrightside
@MrWillyMrBrightside Месяц назад
To be fair, with the provision that the stadium could and would be used for other sports, that's why it's not truly a football stadium (West Ham fans dislike this)
@andrewwinslow9315
@andrewwinslow9315 Месяц назад
​@@MrWillyMrBrightside Hammers Fans are still pissed they had to leave their old Ground for this dump, while Tottenham and Arsenal got much better grounds
@MrWillyMrBrightside
@MrWillyMrBrightside Месяц назад
@@andrewwinslow9315 To be fair, those clubs paid for those grounds out of their own money and bank loans, West Ham got a very generous deal from the taxpayer
@malahammer
@malahammer Месяц назад
The arrogance of Seb Coe and Co not building it with football as an after use. It's completely their fault.
@malahammer
@malahammer Месяц назад
@@MrWillyMrBrightside as West Ham fans say "It's ours, It's round We got it for a pound" It's still not a football stadium.
@WesMakowski
@WesMakowski Месяц назад
Hosting the Olympics is kind of like having a wedding. Statistically, the cheap ones are the most fun/memorable & the flashy/expensive ones often end in divorce...
@John-gr5tx
@John-gr5tx Месяц назад
You tell them wes! The whole thing was started in 1900 to stop war and promote peace between countries. So far it has produced 2 world wars, several mass murderers, a dozen protests leading to riots and the divorce rate has increased 5 fold. Along with all the wars that are on the increase!
@bobsinhav
@bobsinhav Месяц назад
Don't get me started on the Ambani wedding?
@jessquiatchon2204
@jessquiatchon2204 Месяц назад
Tf is this analogy? those descriptions arent mutually exclusive.
@user-zf1kd5qq1t
@user-zf1kd5qq1t Месяц назад
I don't think there's any statistical evidence of cheaper or more expensive weddings resulting in divorce. However I do believe that people don't like those with money out of jealousy, so in their mind, they'd like to believe that more expensive weddings result in divorce. Because in their mind, rich people are bad. At the base of it all, jealousy.
@rhubarbtart
@rhubarbtart Месяц назад
Lol ​@@user-zf1kd5qq1t
@MandiaM27
@MandiaM27 Месяц назад
I lived my entire life in the suburb/city next to the Olympic village in Athens. There was no growth to this really bad and abandoned by everyone in power city, the village and the facilities are abandoned and people of low income are housed there with no real infrastructure for the people there (no hospitals, no after school activities for kids, little to no commercial activity). The village is linked with city nearby with only one bus line that is rarest than truffles in the wild. So there was no metro lines connecting to the city and the village for more than 200k people, no economic growth, no drops in criminal rates. On the contrary the city is sinking more and more into darkness and the criminal rates have skyrocketed
@daleviker5884
@daleviker5884 Месяц назад
Athens 2004 was a budget-style games that cost very little because of Greece's economic difficulties at the time. A year before the games there were doubts they could proceed. If no money was invested it is hardly to be wondered that there are few enduring benefits. How could there be?
@iamnormal8648
@iamnormal8648 Месяц назад
*no after school activities for kids* ? C'mon ... with all that Olympics playgrounds lying around in the village.. how lazy are the kids of Athens?
@SuperDestroyerFox
@SuperDestroyerFox Месяц назад
Rarer than truffles in the wild is a saying I need to use now.
@chrislamp
@chrislamp Месяц назад
@@iamnormal8648 If you take a look at what happened to the old stadiums from the olympics you will see why these "lazy kids" don't play. The only thing standing from that time is the olympic stadium and even that hasn't had any type of maintenance since the day it was built. I am guessing the same thing happened to the olympic village.
@70mavgr
@70mavgr Месяц назад
@@daleviker5884 Athens 2004 where most definitely not budget style Olympics. The economic crisis came post 2008. Over 20 new venues where build not including the hugely expensive renovation of the Olympic stadium.
@dacorum8053
@dacorum8053 17 дней назад
I live in London and I opposed the 2012 bid because it was too expensive and it was sold to us on a lie because the final cost was several times higher than what we were originally told it would cost. it's clear that other cities are now far more aware of the astronomical cost of hosting which is why they are dropping out.
@Lagmaster33
@Lagmaster33 Месяц назад
The leaked document from Norway when they pulled out from the Winter Olympics bid showed how IOC head honchos wanted to be treated like royalties. It's insane. Nothing to do with sports, just accumulating personal wealth.
@phild8095
@phild8095 Месяц назад
That is the purpose of power.
@dmac9777
@dmac9777 Месяц назад
I've worked on 2 world cups and a commonwealth games and the VIPs are exclusively executives from the organising committees.
@steamedbunnft4477
@steamedbunnft4477 Месяц назад
Olympic Committee should stop glorifying the event so much. Stop asking for too much with too little benefits to host countries. Just keep it real.
@KorianHUN
@KorianHUN Месяц назад
All about corruption. These large numbers are a joke, the real money is the bribes everyone pockets and the friend and family who own the contracted companies get the rest.
@ObscureGaruda
@ObscureGaruda Месяц назад
@@steamedbunnft4477 Wtf do you think the OLYMPIC COMMITTEE should do? Shit on the Olympics? Wtf do you think their job is?
@franklinhuang
@franklinhuang Месяц назад
@@ObscureGarudaacknowledge the issues and account for it?
@sdiz3509
@sdiz3509 Месяц назад
@@franklinhuangcommon sense isn't so common 😂😂
@neale3871
@neale3871 Месяц назад
Far too many events, some are quite obscure. Host cities should choose, outside of the classic sports.
@lordmusea
@lordmusea Месяц назад
At this point, why would any country want to host the Olympics? There’s little, if any, economic benefit to the host country. The costs are outrageous to prepare, it inconveniences the locals, and the IOC is basically a criminal racket at this point. 🤷‍♂️
@ChryskylodonInstitute
@ChryskylodonInstitute Месяц назад
exactly. should not be called olympic but corruption games
@BurritoKingdom
@BurritoKingdom Месяц назад
Probably the same thing with the World Cup. Oil rich countries.
@thesenate1844
@thesenate1844 Месяц назад
​@@BurritoKingdomThese days even the Olympics don't have the level of international prestige as hosting a FIFA world cup.
@sadmanh0
@sadmanh0 Месяц назад
@@BurritoKingdom it's not just the oil money that makes them want to host fancy shit, those countries all have terrible human rights record and so they try to hide it with sports washing.
@sharpasacueball
@sharpasacueball Месяц назад
@@thesenate1844 Even the FIFA world cup is making losses too
@AntiNihilist
@AntiNihilist 21 день назад
Ah yes. Los Angelos really didn't have enough traffic lately, so it's nice to know it will have a sufficient amount in 2028.
@joescott5015
@joescott5015 Месяц назад
As someone who lives in east London, I would say the 2012 Olympic Games has had a positive and lasting legacy on the communities here. From a brand new park, to lots of new housing and upgraded public transportation, the benefits have been numerous. I think London is a great example of how to hold the games and leave a positive legacy.
@alyraismanisqueen4576
@alyraismanisqueen4576 Месяц назад
Yes❤
@ScarySox
@ScarySox Месяц назад
@joescott5015 We all pay while London benefits, just like everything in the UK!
@AddySwann
@AddySwann Месяц назад
@@ScarySox London is a net contributor. it generates more in tax than is spent on it..
@SeanusAurelius
@SeanusAurelius Месяц назад
Of course it has. The issue is that it cost Birmingham and Manchester and Essex and Brighton and Scotland and Wales and the Isle of Man millions and millions of pounds.
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan Месяц назад
They are also perfectly capable of building parks, transport etc. without also building stadiums that they won't need once the Olympics are over.
@brucejunior1813
@brucejunior1813 Месяц назад
Even the Olympic villa in Rio is almost still empty to this day. Only a few of the buildings have people living in.
@loercayt6146
@loercayt6146 29 дней назад
Is it dangerous tho?
@Velvet74
@Velvet74 20 дней назад
Hopefullly since most of the buildings in Paris and LA are already existing it will be better from now on.
@freebolt5913
@freebolt5913 20 дней назад
I would rather we never host the Olympics again, dont care what other country's do or dont do.
@LiezAllLiez
@LiezAllLiez Месяц назад
Wow... spending a fuckton of money on a one-time historical event produces deficits, rather than revenue? Who woulda thunk it!
@KorianHUN
@KorianHUN Месяц назад
But several politicians were paid huge sums under the table, totally worth it for them!
@Abluemoon9112
@Abluemoon9112 Месяц назад
This video is stupid lol. Countries like the USA make money off the Olympics and they also utilized the buildings after the games.
@SaintNormRIP
@SaintNormRIP Месяц назад
Atlanta actually avoided that by selling sponsorships to every event to corporations. Rare Olympics that didn’t cause a city a massive deficit. Of course the IOC hated it because the city of Atlanta benefitted and they didn’t from the corporate sponsorships.
@Abluemoon9112
@Abluemoon9112 Месяц назад
@@SaintNormRIP lol the only Olympic that cast a deficits are countries that can't afford to host it or use it as vanity project. The Olympics that the United States have hosted have either broke even or made a profit from. The London Olympics also were very inexpensive.
@vordman
@vordman Месяц назад
@@Abluemoon9112 London was a very good example. There were many existing venues they could use. Wembley, Lords, O2 etc and the venues they had to build were needed anyway.
@rustygaming7881
@rustygaming7881 Месяц назад
Brisbane Australia won the bid purely because NONE of the other states wanted it. The cost was considered too much. It's a total waste of resources that can be spent on the state or country
@qiyuxuan9437
@qiyuxuan9437 20 дней назад
I think its better for Sydney to host it again rather than brisbane, since most of the stadiums in Sydney are still in use. Many new stadiums probably are needes for brisbane, and since it is a much smaller city compare to sydney, they probably have very limited usage after the olympics.
@JKSSubstandard
@JKSSubstandard Месяц назад
A big problem ive always had is that the IOC doesnt take project sustainability into account when picking host cities.They keep picking cities that dont need all these new facilities and projects and investment. So it just ends up as a waste. I said for the last 2 decades that Buffalo, NY would make an amazing Olympic venue practicality wise. Make it a joint games between Buffalo and Toronto. Toronto builds a new baseball stadium they want. The Buffalo Bills get a new football stadium they want. The Sabers can get the new arena they want. University at Buffalo gets the stadium they want. And the olympic village can be built at the University at Buffalo to serve as replacements for some of their older dorm buildings after the games. And the city could use the infrustructure investment to get itself back on its feet. Thats 8 stadiums and a village right there. After the games, the existing 4 stadiums could be torn down. Nothing would be wasted at the end of the day. All the stadiums have teams waiting to occupy them afterward. The village has a tenant afterwards. But whatever, just hit LA again
@kghostthegreat
@kghostthegreat Месяц назад
You can even build a good amount of it in Niagara Falls, which is more or less becoming a ghost town. And it literally has one of the 7 wonders of the world right there. Also not an insanely large population to work around either
@KyrilPG
@KyrilPG Месяц назад
* didn't take into account... They do now. Like in Paris, very very very few things were built. Even the Olympic Aquatic Center was sized for most international events but for the highest attendance requirement events that only exist for Olympic Games, like swim races. Those will be held in a major concert and sports arena with a temporary and reusable pool structure. The Olympic Aquatic Center will hold most other pool events. They've only built an athlete's village, and a media village, both to become housing within a few months after the games. (Private market, semi-social, and social housing). There's also a mid-size arena, which Paris needed for some time, that was built "for" the Olympics. But that's just a way for the city to externalize the cost of their new venue under the Olympic and privately funded budget. The city also piggybacked on the Olympics to fund their major river cleaning and sewer overflow problem solving projects. Literally everything that was really built "for" the Olympics, was either long overdue, or on Paris and-or France wishlist. So, there's zero chance of any equipment staying abandoned after the games. All the "new venues" already were used before the games for local events or serving the local population. Much like the training pool, which like the Olympic Aquatic center, were built in the district of Paris (and France) with the lowest amount of swimming pools per inhabitant.
@eb.3764
@eb.3764 Месяц назад
​@@kghostthegreatNo f__ck that. Go to Hamilton. Leave Niagara Falls the quiet place it is
@osco4311
@osco4311 Месяц назад
That's because the IOC doesn't care about the host city. Sustainability is the taxpayer's problem. The IOC just wants the city that offers the most benefits to them: bribes, kickback contracts, and concessions on civil rights like advertising restrictions that violate free speech.
@kghostthegreat
@kghostthegreat Месяц назад
@@eb.3764 the American side, the Canadian side is pretty much a tourist trap already
@stevek1225
@stevek1225 Месяц назад
The IOC should just buy an island in Greece and host the event in the same place, every Olympics
@cannibalronny7314
@cannibalronny7314 Месяц назад
Exactly an Olympics disneyland
@christinajoseph5029
@christinajoseph5029 Месяц назад
@@cannibalronny7314 ohhhhh I like these ideas, especially a Disney land type .
@donnacrabtree5611
@donnacrabtree5611 27 дней назад
love that idea yes 👍👍👍
@mrcak2
@mrcak2 27 дней назад
Agreed. Maybe can collaborate with 2nd country as co-host.
@Z4r4kiKenpachi
@Z4r4kiKenpachi 27 дней назад
That island can be in the middle of possible battlefield.Aegean dispute has potantial to create war.
@paulclarke7571
@paulclarke7571 Месяц назад
I'm a Canadian. The 1976 Olympics in Montreal ran way over budget as after the terrorist's attacks in 1972 games, the security budget ballooned to $1.1 billion. That's 5.35 billion in 2024 dollars.
@user-rp4ln5el4l
@user-rp4ln5el4l Месяц назад
Entertainment as a whole is a economical waste, instead of using it to cure cancer or sustainability of the earth.
@cynthiajohnston424
@cynthiajohnston424 Месяц назад
Remember the '72 Olympics well as Olympic equestrian Kathy Kusner returned to her home in Maryland & rode for the barn where I worked . Much more occurred surrounding the Munich attacks , both before & after , that never reached the media ! 😪
@HelloMattMat
@HelloMattMat Месяц назад
Interesting to learn about '76 as a fellow Canadian. My understanding is that the 2010 Winter Games in Vancouver were considered highly successful, and I believe profitable, as Canad learned much of their lessons from previously hosting in '76 and '88.
@wendysnelgrove5870
@wendysnelgrove5870 Месяц назад
@@HelloMattMat Calgary was also a pretty successful games and that infrastructure is well used. I don't mind if we host another winter games, but I hope we don't host another summer games as I think the cost just isn't worth it.
@lamou1708
@lamou1708 Месяц назад
It took more than 30 years to repay the debt of The olympic stadium in montreal by tax payers. In the end, an extra sales tax was added to tobacco to finish paying it all. I remember thanking some smokers for helping repaying that debt as a joke
@sayuas4293
@sayuas4293 Месяц назад
I am from Amsterdam. I really really do not want the olympics to ever come here. If they try, I will protest against it and sign petitions and whatever
@nurnadhirahsaing6169
@nurnadhirahsaing6169 Месяц назад
From my obsevation, the Olympics is just not worth it compared to Fifa World Cup. Maybe because it just focus on one sport while the Olympics have many sports in it therefore people/fans will flocked over to sports that are more popular? (Idk, I might be wrong).
@sayuas4293
@sayuas4293 Месяц назад
@@nurnadhirahsaing6169 i also dont want a world cup and whatever other world sporting events. Amsterdam is already full of tourists all year, every year and it causes many problems. We don't need more.
@annkramerkramer4154
@annkramerkramer4154 27 дней назад
​@@sayuas4293I fly to Paris every year and its never been so quit on the Streets becuase the Tourists didn't come becuase of the prices and most people That live in Paris leaved the City
@sayuas4293
@sayuas4293 27 дней назад
@@annkramerkramer4154 yeah everyone dislikes it basically
@AllMenMustServe
@AllMenMustServe 25 дней назад
@@nurnadhirahsaing6169 Hosting a football event is a lot easier and less costier to host than the Olympics. Just look at Germany this year with the Euros. They had all the infrastructures already. They invested close to nothing. It's just logistics and that's easy because they're already used to it every weekend. Not to mention the fact that a World Cup/Euros is organized by the whole country, not just by a single city. You can use all the infrastructures you have at your dispose in your territory, regardless of where it is located. As opposed to Olympics, where you need all the venues at a specific location.
@tarik6990
@tarik6990 Месяц назад
Hosting the Olympics is a major luxury today compared to 30-40 years ago.
@YourCanadianGuide
@YourCanadianGuide Месяц назад
And then there is Canada, who managed to go in debt for 40 years to pay off the stadium in Montreal 48 years ago... Sorry
@tarik6990
@tarik6990 Месяц назад
@@YourCanadianGuide Yes and today it would cost a thousand times more and you'd be a thousand times more in debt than you were back than in 1976.
@castorchua
@castorchua Месяц назад
Like most things
@Gingermycat
@Gingermycat Месяц назад
​@@tarik6990 what makes it ok because it was cheaper then? The Olympics are dying because people don't really care. We have bigger issues
@tarik6990
@tarik6990 Месяц назад
@@Gingermycat It's not that it makes it ok, it's that the challenges regarding financing were different at the time. How are Olympics dying?
@ketianma2810
@ketianma2810 Месяц назад
I am Beijing resident and I want to correct one thing. The national stadium in Beijing consistently holds all kinds of huge events like concerts, improvised parks, etc. I just went to a huge concert there several months ago and it was one of my most cherised memories. I'm not sure whether it paid off economically but it's definitely not "sitting there mostly empty".
@pinkitydinkity6550
@pinkitydinkity6550 Месяц назад
Yes we also toured there as part of our architecture class and it’s pretty common
@viron6734
@viron6734 Месяц назад
Thanks for the information. So many RU-vid videos are poorly researched, like this one.
@MaQuGo119
@MaQuGo119 Месяц назад
50 Cents were added to your CCP Bank account, plus 10 Good citizen points.
@sbakst
@sbakst Месяц назад
@@MaQuGo119go and touch grass
@FrcNeru
@FrcNeru Месяц назад
@@MaQuGo119 5 yuan, cents are a imperialist construct
@MrGrandBarbu
@MrGrandBarbu Месяц назад
as a quebecers, i heard for decades that we've still been paying for the interest of the montreal 76's olympics debts. and the cost on maintaining still adds up
@AIMAGICSTREAM
@AIMAGICSTREAM Месяц назад
Omg.
@TheMacacoco
@TheMacacoco Месяц назад
One of the success stories not mentioned is Barcelona. Its hosting led to increased international interest in Gaudi architecture which raised Barcelona's profile as a tourist destination.
@gemmeldrakes2758
@gemmeldrakes2758 Месяц назад
And now there are so many tourists that Barcelona has protests against tourism.
@angel_of_rust
@angel_of_rust 28 дней назад
@@gemmeldrakes2758 whoopsie
@mooreanonumbers
@mooreanonumbers 19 дней назад
Barcelona 92 lead to increased international interest in Dr Fuentes❤
@mervzd
@mervzd 19 дней назад
Thanks to the original Dream Team.
@sandrajohnson4233
@sandrajohnson4233 Месяц назад
i never understood why they have to focus on a city rather than a country or state. It would make it less congested and there would be more venues available.
@felix-gj4ut
@felix-gj4ut Месяц назад
i think the main problem would be that the olympics dont work like forexample a world cup. Games/Events tend be made out of much more smaller events, with an incredible amount of different sports, often happpig somewhat simultaniosly, which makes trying to see more than one event incredibly difficult if its happens to be at the other end the country, meaning you either dont get to see it/or have to travel a lot.
@donnacrabtree5611
@donnacrabtree5611 Месяц назад
yea like the football world cup and the euros, many stadiums in the whole country ... would be a much better way to do it 👍
@j-lon3564
@j-lon3564 Месяц назад
It’s simple, really. Olympic sports don’t really have that much of an appeal for the general public. Imagine having to travel to a random city in the middle of Brazil, that you’ve never heard of, to watch Pole Vault? You simply wouldn’t go. Now, if all of the events are in the same city, you end up attending “random” events because you’re already there.
@donnacrabtree5611
@donnacrabtree5611 27 дней назад
@@j-lon3564 well they could split the crap sports that no one wants to watch and include them at the various venues with the good stuff people do want to watch, or alternatively just ditch the crappy ones no one wants to watch anyway ... just as easy ... Also just to note, many people travelled to and from different cities / venues for the recent euros football in Germany and it was an excellent vibe everywhere 👍👍
@j-lon3564
@j-lon3564 27 дней назад
@@donnacrabtree5611 the whole point of the Olympics is to compete in a bunch of sports that wouldn’t have a spotlight otherwise, ditching them would ruin the event. About the euros, of course people travelled around lol, it’s football, the most watched sport in the planet and it was with most of the biggest and most well-known national teams. The Olympics is different, you can’t expect people to travel to random places to watch random events, it wouldn’t work. About bundling the events together, they already do that. All of the athletics stuff is held in the same venues(running, long jump, pole vault, etc.). The country-wide Olympics is a good idea only in small countries, like France, Portugal, Spain, etc. if that were to happen in the US, Russia, Brazil, China, Canada, etc. it would be a complete flop because people just wouldn’t attend the sports that are held in lesser known areas. Try to imagine yourself going to the outskirts of Arkansas in the US, or to a random city in the countryside of China, to watch archery, you simply wouldn’t go because there’s nothing attractive about the sport or the place. In contrast, if the Olympics is held in New York City, for example, and you get tickets for archery, you would attend, because you could go sightseeing across the city and visit tourist attractions and you would get the “feeling” of the Olympics as everyone is bundled together there to watch the Olympics as a whole.
@marscaleb
@marscaleb Месяц назад
What honestly surprises me the most is... How soon before the Olympics the IOC picks a city. I thought this was planned out far further in advance than this.
@elainelindsey1306
@elainelindsey1306 Месяц назад
It used to be done 7 years in advance. I remember watching the bid for 2004 Olympics which aired live on TV in 1997. Dunno maybe the system changed recently.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng Месяц назад
@@elainelindsey1306 The International Olympic Committee (IOC) typically awards the hosting rights for the Summer and Winter Olympics about 7 to 11 years in advance. This long lead time allows the host city to prepare the necessary infrastructure, facilities, and logistics to accommodate the event. For example: The 2024 Summer Olympics were awarded to Paris in 2017, giving Paris 7 years to prepare. The 2028 Summer Olympics were awarded to Los Angeles in 2017 as well, giving Los Angeles 11 years to prepare. The 2026 Winter Olympics were awarded to Milan-Cortina in 2019, providing a 7-year preparation period.
@btf_flotsam478
@btf_flotsam478 Месяц назад
Brisbane was picked a decade in advance.
@WickedNightingale
@WickedNightingale 26 дней назад
Brisbane was picked 3 years ago and they have not done one single scrap of work towards implementation. they haven't even written word on of a plan to implement. It is going to be an absolute disaster - LA will end up hosting two in a row,
@nicoladc89
@nicoladc89 24 дня назад
Well, at today we know the host cities of Olympics up to Salt Lake City 2034. Paris and Los Angeles were chosen in 2017, 7 and 11 years in advance. Milano-Corina was chosen in 2019, 7 years in advance. The French alps and Salt Lake City in 2024, 6 and 10 years in advance. Brisbane in 2021, 11 years in advance. The idea of ​​hosting the Olympics in a single city, having to build facilities from scratch that will then be dismantled, when there are already sports facilities everywhere, is a stupidity of biblical level. Paris was a little less stupid this year by hosting tennis on the courts of Roland Garros, sailing in Marseille and surfing in Tahiti, but then they spent 2 billion to make the athletes swim in a river that hasn't been swimmable for over 100 years. It seems that in 2030 they want to hold the skating competitions in the Turin 2006 facility (something that the idiots who organize Milan-Cortina refuse to do). For Milan-Cortina they cleared dozens of hectares (in an area that is a UNESCO World Heritage Site) to make a sledding track that no one will use anymore, when they could have gone to Innsbruck which is a few kilometers away. You want to host the Olympics in a single city? Why not always the same city? All the NOCs and Olympic countries contribute according to their capabilities and all together build an Olympic center where the Olympics are always held. The opening and closing ceremonies are assigned to a nation, which can then make itself known to the world even if it is not one of the rich nations, the facilities will be used in the future. The money earned is reinvested in the maintenance of the Olympic sites. And that's it.
@carlosroura7581
@carlosroura7581 Месяц назад
Being from Barcelona, it came as a shock to me when I first learned about this topic. For us, it is still said today that the Olympics of 1992 really transformed the city and put it on the map for worldwide tourism. Not only that, but most of the infrastructure and venues are still used today. Almost all the venues here have been repurposed for hosting various contests, events & festivals (like a copy of the Oktoberfest or a copy of the Feria de Abril), fashion events & galas, other sports competitions, lots of concerts and shows (like Cirque du Soleil and many musical artists), comic-cons, congresses (some are used for the Mobile World Congress for instance), a yearly children festival and a yearly youth employment & studies guidance & job fair, and some are even open to the public permanently as sports facilities or museums I don´t know if Barcelona´s model was exceptionally well maintained through time or what, but it really was a blessing for the city. Nowadays though, I´m not so sure it would be again, probably not
@memovilmx6239
@memovilmx6239 Месяц назад
Barcelona has a lot of stuff. Actual summer, a shitton of culture related venues, magnificent architecture. The Olympics were a booster? Perhaps but definitely not what brought Barcelona to the world's eyes.
@SomeoneFromBeijing
@SomeoneFromBeijing Месяц назад
Been to Barcelona and I can confirm it. That shopping centre shown in the video used to be a stadium. It is really cool. Beijing did something very similar. The gigantic swimming venue is now a water park. New metro lines are used by residents to get to places. And despite what the video says, the main stadium is still hosting football matches, concerts, and many other events. The football team he mentioned never planned to move into the stadium, the video was wrong about it. I remember living in Beijing during that period. The city really transformed. And I enjoyed the Olympics.
@estebanod
@estebanod Месяц назад
It’s harder when you’re already in a big city
@sporeafan
@sporeafan Месяц назад
I'd say it's a bit special case as Barcelona is just lucky, being already well known tourist destination before, and being able to combine a well sized city, with the sea and incredible soft power of Spanish and Catalan cultures
@belamoure
@belamoure Месяц назад
Today Barcelonese pistol water their tourists so that they can leave them alone .
@BuyBBStonk
@BuyBBStonk Месяц назад
Summer = Athens Winter = Switzerland.
@alyeanna
@alyeanna 23 дня назад
Doing sports in the Summer in Greece is brutal. Temperatures are extremely high and are only going to get higher. Right now it is 35°C in Athens (95F). You can't perform at the highest level in these conditions.
@jhh764
@jhh764 23 дня назад
​@@alyeannaThat's pretty much the summer temps in most places
@raspberries97
@raspberries97 22 дня назад
Winter: Stalingrad, Russia 💀💀💀
@Masterraccoon-np3kl
@Masterraccoon-np3kl 22 дня назад
@@alyeannaThat’s not brutal. That’s literally Michigan summer weather.😭 I mean, I’ve heard the Mediterranean weather is really temperate. But 95f is not, “brutal,” bro…
@nevn3v
@nevn3v 22 дня назад
Summer = Quenia xD Winter = Siberia
@mradamp125
@mradamp125 Месяц назад
Boston was down to be a re-occurring destination. We have DOZENS of high-quality universities with wonderful facilities that agreed to participate as Olympic hosts. BUT the IOC demanded new venues erected for the event. Wicked stupid. We told them to take a hike.
@vordman
@vordman Месяц назад
Good for you. But have a heart for those poor IOC officials denied their backhanders under the table from the construction companies.
@kelvinpell4571
@kelvinpell4571 Месяц назад
But you are also governed by democrat party fascists
@rungfang27
@rungfang27 Месяц назад
I imagine you saying wicked stupid in a Boston accent. While Ben afflick dances to the dunkings in the back ground!
@mradamp125
@mradamp125 Месяц назад
@@rungfang27 accurate
@normadgarmez7026
@normadgarmez7026 Месяц назад
Sounds to me that Boston gave the IOC a lot of benefits on a silver platter to host the games. I mean that's what they need to be profitable and hosting a city is one of them. But nope, it's not enough and ask that those countries especially the citizens flip the whole bill.
@RoboJules
@RoboJules Месяц назад
Sometimes those costs are a good thing if they're spent well. With Vancouver, everything we built was designed to be used by the public years after the Olympics. The Canada Line is an extremely successful transit line linking the Airport and Richmond to Downtown, which currently serves 150k riders a day. The Sea to Sky highway upgrades are very well appreciated and has allowed Squamish to become a major satellite city. All of the local Olympic venues were turned into really nice community centers that are currently so crowded that the city needs to start building more. The Olympic village has become a vibrant transit oriented waterfront community. The point I'm making is that the infrastructure being built cannot be single use, but must be designed to build and grow the city itself. Vancouver used the Olympics as an excuse to build important infrastructure instead of the other way around.
@enterpriset
@enterpriset Месяц назад
I was very curious why Vancouver wasn't mentioned once. It was far from perfect but I guess it didn't fit the storyline?
@TheMowgus
@TheMowgus Месяц назад
My thoughts exactly. The Richmond Oval (the speed skating venue) was designed to be a multi-purpose facility and locals are able to use it and host events like basketball. It all comes down to the people doing the planning; it's not an Olympics problem.
@Pscribbled
@Pscribbled Месяц назад
Yeah Vancouver did an awesome job with the infrastructure improvements. Although I wonder if maybe the problems seen happens more with summer Olympics as Id assume they would need more permanent facilities that would inevitably end up as “white elephants”
@danielzhang1916
@danielzhang1916 Месяц назад
@@tek1645 back then, a lot of cities thought it would bring a lot of tourists if they built a lot, but they later realized that it was only temporary, so the new venues went to waste or were torn down
@janicechau5482
@janicechau5482 Месяц назад
Vancouver 2010 was probably one of the few Olympics success stories and doesn't fit the narrative of the video. It left a lasting legacy but it was sustainable, the city definitely optimized and still uses all the infrastructure that was built. It was 100% the right decision to host it in Van, and honestly it could probably be done again successfully a second time.
@gregorylu
@gregorylu Месяц назад
What about a rotation with “anchor cities” as where the Olympics returns to regularly, but still gives room for other cities to make bids when they feel like they have the budget? For example, in the golf majors (except the Masters), each have “anchor sites” which the major returns to every 7-8 years. St. Andrews for the Open, Pebble Beach, Marion, Oakmont among others for the US Open. But other old and historic courses also can make an appearance every once in a while. This process allows two things: 1) it makes it so anchor sites don’t need to spend as much money to build infrastructure, and we can use already successful cities to do so, such as LA. 2) it still gives us the ability to experience the wow factor when a new city hosts. Further, there’s the added benefit where if a country that regularly hosts the Olympics has an issue, whether through domestic turmoil or crimes against humanity, the IOC can effectively suspend that country until they fix their issues, then reinstate them into the rotation. Sites can also serve as emergency backups in case no new country desires to bid on a future Games, or if a site has some massive issue that may prevent them from hosting/completing their infrastructure in time.
@danflaman7268
@danflaman7268 Месяц назад
Or you rotate the hosting between 5 distinct cities, and the facilities in all of the cities between Olympic years are available for participants to train at at a reduced cost to their home country. in effect you get a training facility that's globally local for athletes in that area to train at that should be an Olympic level venue, and the participating countries can use it with reduced costs for their athletes because they are already paying money to the IOC.
@ikester8
@ikester8 Месяц назад
I like that idea. It's still worldwide, and nearby cities in the country can host some events without breaking the bank.
@caellencaellen1958
@caellencaellen1958 Месяц назад
This would be a superb plan for the struggling Commonwealth Games...
@Lilitha11
@Lilitha11 Месяц назад
I like that idea but I am not sure it would work due to how long it is between each event. If you only rotate between the same 3 cities that is every 12 years. A white elephant isn't really worth it, if the games only come to you every 12 years, and that was using an extremely small number of cities.
@droid2D2C3P0
@droid2D2C3P0 Месяц назад
Similar concept to the world juniors. Canada hosts it every other year and on off years the rest of the world rotates. Canada has a ton of infrastructure for hockey plus a high concentration of fans to fill the stadiums making it easy to host every other year, but still allows other countries a turn on off years
@garystrahan4601
@garystrahan4601 Месяц назад
It's interesting that this popped up in my feed, considering I boycotted watching the Olympics since 1990 when Atlanta was awarded the games and came to the conclusion that the whole process was corrupted and costing taxpayers of the losing bidding countries millions of dollars.
@Emmanuel_Rocha
@Emmanuel_Rocha 24 дня назад
Same, I don't even bother to watch them anymore. People are taking way too long to realize the Olympic games are just a scam.
@Masterraccoon-np3kl
@Masterraccoon-np3kl 22 дня назад
⁠@@Emmanuel_RochaWith how horrible this 2024 Olympics game is? Not really. The number is increasing. Rapidly.
@rchilde1
@rchilde1 Месяц назад
One thing you forgot to mention or expand upon, is that for the LA 2028 Olympic Games not all of them will be held in LA or even the S Cal region. Two events, Softball and Canoe Slohlam will be held in Oklahoma City; a city that already has world class venues for the two sports; which will significantly save LA28 and the Olympics. In fact, OKC also has a very straight course along its river that could also be used for rowing events - that hasn't been announced but it could. This just reiterates the acceptance of the Olympics being a multi-city effort where possible, while also shining a bit of light for lesser known cities or those would couldn't do it on their own such as Oklahoma City, to also shine and share in the rewards of being an Olympic city.
@mircopaul5259
@mircopaul5259 Месяц назад
Still need to build toilets for all the gender fluid people
@GilBangalan
@GilBangalan Месяц назад
The idea of having the Olympics as a "multi-city effort" is worth considering. I would go beyond by suggesting to have the Olympics in a "multi-region" event. Some games maybe held in the cities of several regions - USA, South America, Asia, Middle East, Africa, etc. The cities will not have to accumulate debts just to hold the events - and use the money for the people who needs help.
@davestang5454
@davestang5454 Месяц назад
Technically speaking, a "city" doesn't host the games. It's organized by the national Olympic committee so it would be normal for some events in the Los Angeles 2028 Olympics to be held in other American cities. They try to keep most events in a tight geographical area but that's not always practical. Team events, especially, might employ multiple venues.
@aclark903
@aclark903 Месяц назад
@@davestang5454Hope LA reigns back the Pride shit, but I won’t hold my breath.
@SnowmanTF2
@SnowmanTF2 Месяц назад
That only got announced a few weeks ago, even if there had been rumors for months at least the Canoe Slalom was for over a year, some chance the video was already shot and in editing by that point.
@luapslev5826
@luapslev5826 Месяц назад
I'm surprised Qatar, Saudi Arabia or the UAE haven't been selected to host an Olympics. They'll spend about $1T on a sporting event easily
@olliemcdowell4503
@olliemcdowell4503 Месяц назад
Because then it’d have to be in Qatar, Saudi Arabia or UAE LOL
@abstort9593
@abstort9593 Месяц назад
​@@olliemcdowell4503 yea like didn't doha already get under fire for hosting FIFA since it's a very homophobic country (or something along those lines, i don't fully remember the situation)? i doubt it would fly for qatar to host the olympics in today's climate, and for good reason
@shagunthapliyal7309
@shagunthapliyal7309 Месяц назад
Qatar and Saudi Already got the 2030 and 2034 Asian Games with Saudi even making an new city for the asian winter games and obviously the 2034 World Cup
@lol-ih1tl
@lol-ih1tl Месяц назад
​@@abstort9593 the FIFA World Cup 2022 boycott was because of the unspeakable working conditions of the construction workers.
@Hex4Trex
@Hex4Trex Месяц назад
I'm not - I suspect that has always been considered very controversial
@MrSilverDude101
@MrSilverDude101 Месяц назад
There's really only one city I've heard of that loved hosting the Olympics, it was Salt Lake in the 2002 winter ganes. It was very similar to the LA model, but new infrastructure was built. The difference is that all that new infrastructure is still in use. Students still stay in the Olympic Village when they attend the University of Utah. The difference is SLC was a growing city as opposed to an established one. Would be hard ro replicate in another city, but not an imposible one.
@caio5987
@caio5987 Месяц назад
London loved it too back in 2012
@XMysticHerox
@XMysticHerox Месяц назад
@@caio5987 The long-term effects of the London olympics is a big part of why cities dropped out this time.
@imtired1696
@imtired1696 Месяц назад
I hear Salt Lake City is going to host winter games again too?
@maxpowr90
@maxpowr90 Месяц назад
Why Salt Lake is so happy to have a "new" NHL team. They're gonna build a new arena for the team (and the Utah Jazz) so they will definitely be ready for the 2030 or 2034. I imagine Stockholm is the other winning bid.
@FffFff-jd2lo
@FffFff-jd2lo Месяц назад
@@XMysticHerox i thought london olympics were successful?
@dranzacspartan8002
@dranzacspartan8002 25 дней назад
The Olympics should be held in Greece, permanently. The country is already geared up for millions of tourist a year, and its freeways are spectacular, with vehicles travelling at 160kph. They could run all the traditional events in Sparta (Javelin, Discuss, Archery, etc); they could run the water events between one of the 2000 islands of Greece; they could run the cycling/vehicle events at Mount Olympus; and they could run all the track events on the original Olympic Stadium in Old Olympus.
@Belomoh6
@Belomoh6 22 дня назад
Agreed
@carmenl163
@carmenl163 21 день назад
That's not possible. Those are UNESCO World Heritage sites. They are historical and cultural legacy and cannot be put in jeopardy of destroying them.
@iljagaimovic9166
@iljagaimovic9166 21 день назад
And who will pay for the game? Greece
@dranzacspartan8002
@dranzacspartan8002 21 день назад
@@iljagaimovic9166 The Olympic Committee. It doesn't require Rocket Science, mate.
@dranzacspartan8002
@dranzacspartan8002 20 дней назад
@@jbrock8596 You really need to comprehend, mate. Think. Just think. IF you have it a one location, preferably Greece, then EVERY COUNTRY has to pitch in and the OC is the International committee to work that out. Forget Rocket Science with you, mate ... just grab a 3rd Grader to explain this to you!
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 Месяц назад
One topic just touched upon is that there are so many "sports" that have been added to the Olympics, and they all require an often-specialized venue. That adds to the overall costs of being a host city.
@donkeysaurusrex7881
@donkeysaurusrex7881 Месяц назад
Most don’t “require” a specialized venue. The IOC simply requires separate buildings. No reason, you couldn’t hold many of indoor sports that have small competition areas such as the fighting sports and weightlifting in one building divided into multiple areas.
@etienne8110
@etienne8110 Месяц назад
​@@donkeysaurusrex7881even if not specific, more sports means more venues used at the same time. So more venues (which won t have much use afterwards), means more spendings. And returns aren t following.
@Calemdoscope-uq1yg
@Calemdoscope-uq1yg Месяц назад
Not to mention how pandemic-time olimmpics turned into politcal speech platform for "underrepresented group" ( the one that demands letting men into women lockerrooms ).
@richiericher9084
@richiericher9084 Месяц назад
Additionally, many of the "new" sports can manage with temporary infrastructure. Take 3x3 basketball, the last world cup was hosted on a temporary court in the middle of Vienna. Similar things go for speed climbing or BMX.
@tk80mufa5
@tk80mufa5 Месяц назад
I would argue the sports program itself should get cut down to the big 3 in terms of audience interest : - *Athletics* ( but only Sprinting really , everything else is outdated like Shot Put , Javelin & Discus & Hammer throw , Pole Vault , Long & Triple & High Jump , Marathon , Decathlon , Race Walk , etc. ) - *Aquatics* ( but only swimming as in races , no Diving , no Water Polo , no Artistic synchronized , no Marathon ) - *Gymnastics* ( but get rid of the Vault & Trampoline ) the only "new" sport i am okay with is *Climbing* , since over the last 20 (?) years in Western countries it has gained an enormous following / active scene. Combat Sports (inluding Fencing , Boxing , Wrestling , Judo , Taekwondo , Karate , etc.) to me are quite primitive , and should all get canceled. same with Equestrian & Modern Pentathlon. animal rights have evolved. Cycling & Triathlon is for morons only. now on to the team sports : since FIFA actively sabotages the Olympic football tournament - get rid of it. same with the low audience interest sports like Field Hockey , Team Handball & Rugby. also get rid of Tennis ( the Slams are more prestigious than the Olympics) , Badminton , Table Tennis , 3x3 Basketball & Beach Volleyball , Canoeing , Rowing , Sailing , Surfing , Skateboarding , Breaking & Golf , Archery & Weightlifting . the only team sports I would keep are *Basketball* & *Volleyball* ( since FIFA is actively gonna sabotage Futsal if it were to be included ). So , in my book , that would be *6* (!!!) sports , and only really three types of venues need to be built - a indoor running track ( no more than 20,000 capacity ) - an indoor swimming pool ( no more than 10,000 capacity) - several multi-purpose indoor arenas for Gymnastics , Climbing , Basketball & Volleyball ( again , no more than 10 - 20,000 capacity ) I want to also add , that the Olympics should be extended AT LEAST to *4* (!!!) weeks , not two ! If you are going to have an event like this , at least let the people enjoy it for a full month !!! ( like the FIFA World Cup ) there i did it , saved billions of Dollars/Euros/Pounds and hundreds of boring sports tv hours.
@An00bisY00tubis
@An00bisY00tubis Месяц назад
I’m from Brisbane and am not looking forward to paying for the Olympics with tax
@ChrisSmith-bh2hg
@ChrisSmith-bh2hg Месяц назад
You hosted the Commonwealth Games. You already paid to build much of the necessary infrastructure.
@Scottagram
@Scottagram Месяц назад
I'm not overly pleased about Brisbane hosting the games but I softened on the idea. New selection rules state that 80% of the infrastructure has to already exist or be funded before the Olympic bid, specifically to prevent empty stadiums. New rules also let the event spread out more instead of being in one stupidly big mega-venue. Gabba total reconstruction has been demoted to a regular refurbishment and new stadium proposal has also been shot down.
@jimjimson6208
@jimjimson6208 Месяц назад
@@Scottagram Thank god
@matthewbain6306
@matthewbain6306 Месяц назад
@@ChrisSmith-bh2hg You would think so, but no, already huge arguments about the amount to be spent and where the main stadium would be. The commonwealth games were actually on the Gold Coast and although some venues will be reused most will be in Brisbane .
@MercifulEmma
@MercifulEmma Месяц назад
If Brisbane is anything like Sydney the infrastructure and venues created will still be used years to come if that is any consolidation.
@WarioSaysSo
@WarioSaysSo Месяц назад
Actually, does each Olympic Games ACTUALLY need to cost so much? It really don't need to have so much extra costs, incl. luxuary hotels, luxuary built stadiums etc-etc. Its about the competitions, NOT luxuary things. In the old past it was never these insane prices because they kept things more modest.
@jakovcu
@jakovcu Месяц назад
Well the number of Olympic sports is increasing so number of facilities has to grow and so the cost.
@dty1207
@dty1207 Месяц назад
@@jakovcuthat’s irrelevant to what they posted.
@oriena_
@oriena_ Месяц назад
@@jakovcu This doesn't explain the need for hotels that cost $500/per night per person
@jakovcu
@jakovcu Месяц назад
@oriena_ I don't think that some hotels are built for Olympics, in grand scheme of things I don't think that increased price for some hotels for few people (athletes will stay in Olympic village) makes huge difference.
@Wfalen
@Wfalen Месяц назад
They cost a lot per night because there's so much demand. No one is building new hotels for a two week sports event. Actually when you look at the athletes rooms they are usually pretty spartan. The venues themselves and transportation are the ones that cost.
@LT-mc8vj
@LT-mc8vj 22 дня назад
The Olympics should be scrapped. It is a an event that is filled with animosity, bad sportsmanship, politicized, suspicion, jealousy, doping, double standards, accusations, racism, hatred, etc. Such a lousy event, no one should be hosting it.
@tsitracommunications2884
@tsitracommunications2884 19 дней назад
its also full of sexual immorality
@AAblade7
@AAblade7 Месяц назад
I’m kind of surprised the 96 Olympics wasn’t mentioned that much as well. I know the IOC hated it, but that was because of how little control they had over it. The major sponsors had much more say due to Atlanta using mostly private funding for the games. IOC really cracked down on sponsorships after that one.
@belamoure
@belamoure Месяц назад
IOC hated Atlanta 1996 because Atlanta was so bright and lit about not being screwed by them. I was there in 1996 and I really saw how a city can control IOC's pirates.
@nachobroryan8824
@nachobroryan8824 Месяц назад
Eric Rudolph is an example of why people wouldn't want what happened in Atlanta.
@70mavgr
@70mavgr Месяц назад
The 1996 Olympics where bought by Coca Cola.
@colej1206
@colej1206 Месяц назад
Surprised by this as well, guess it goes against the narrative of the video. A lot of facilities were reused after the Olympics a good example being the Ga Tech North Ave dorms which were built originally to house athletes.
@Xiuhtec
@Xiuhtec Месяц назад
Atlanta used them as an excuse to perform much needed upgrades on their interstate highways through downtown as well, traffic improved for many years following.
@Dnn411
@Dnn411 Месяц назад
What financially responsible and sane country would disagree? Today, a city wanting to host the Olympics is just a politician’s Vanity Project. Overall, hosting is a huge security risk, financial RISK and environmental disaster.
@indigocheetah4172
@indigocheetah4172 Месяц назад
Exactly, the politicians in Brisbane made the bid for 2032. We unfortunately won the bid.
@chdreturns
@chdreturns Месяц назад
​@@indigocheetah4172Say what would happen if a city refuses to pay afterwards?
@xituma
@xituma Месяц назад
@@indigocheetah4172exactly, and the construction, not just for the arenas and stadium but the road infrastructures have began everywhere and pretty much hired out 80% of all trades persons. Thus making the housing crisis even greater with rising interest rates and inflation. New home buyers and investors are having a hard time finding tradies to build houses or even renovate it to sell.
@night6724
@night6724 Месяц назад
If the world operated in your way there’d be no art or beauty and everything would be utilitarian
@tournamentmaster2000
@tournamentmaster2000 Месяц назад
@@indigocheetah4172 I believe there was only one bid, which is why it won.
@cv4981
@cv4981 Месяц назад
From what I gather the only real recent successful Olympics was the 2012 London Olympics, due to the absolutely massive focus on makign sure the facilities built for the Olympics would serve a purpose after. From what I know almost every single permanent build for the Olympics (stadiums, accommodation, the Olympic village) still exist today and are in use.
@rafhurffer7884
@rafhurffer7884 Месяц назад
I'm a live in London and can confirm this. The main stadium is now a weekly sold out premier league stadium, the arena is home aof Londons basketball team, the aquatics is just an awesome public pool etc. The best part is the area where they built the olympic park was pretty dodgy and now I think I see mkre new builds there than anywhere else still to this day
@FlashyVic
@FlashyVic Месяц назад
​​@@rafhurffer7884The stadium very nearly wasn't as the London Olympic committee insisted the Olympic stadium design be specific for athletics and not fit for easy conversion for football after the games. Even though there was never ever going to be any demand for a large arena for athletics in the UK. It was only afterwards when reality bit and with some dubious dealing and a lot of taxpayer money wasted that West Ham moved into the stadium - against the wishes of the majority of their support. And it's renowned in football supporter circles for its bad sightlines, poor atmosphere and distance of pitch from many of the seats.
@jasonstevens2060
@jasonstevens2060 Месяц назад
Pretty sure Vancouver and Lillehammer for the winter Olympics were considered successful also
@CtrlAltDelete007
@CtrlAltDelete007 Месяц назад
The Vancouver 2010 winter Olympics are one of the most successful in the history of the Olympics. Vancouver still utilizes pretty much every single venue and infrastructure upgrade they did in preparation for the games. They also didn't lose money like most Olympics.
@bennwaters5851
@bennwaters5851 Месяц назад
Sydney was more sucessful than London.
@TedTrinity
@TedTrinity 29 дней назад
It's not worth the money. Splitting it up by individual sport by category and have cities bid on each sport. Specializing on individual sports would improve everything overall and less overwhelming. Something needs to change
@MaxPayne909
@MaxPayne909 Месяц назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="544">9:04</a> The part of hosting the Olympics can hurt the image of the city is so true. I never want to visit Paris after all the negative things that were brought to light during the Olympics this year.
@skidmoda
@skidmoda Месяц назад
ditto, after the sexual deviant stuff they make it seem like a pedo and groomer world capital.
@evelynalvarez4897
@evelynalvarez4897 Месяц назад
Can you give any example of this negative things?
@clarity2115
@clarity2115 Месяц назад
Paris is a dump... outside of their architecture
@qcthesxientist
@qcthesxientist Месяц назад
@@evelynalvarez4897 tourists from my country have been getting raped
@ebtsolstice
@ebtsolstice Месяц назад
@@evelynalvarez4897 Can you come up with a positive thing about paris?
@tankeater
@tankeater Месяц назад
The Olympics need to just be in 1 location... With the amount of venues needed, it would just make sense to have a premier location.
@davestang5454
@davestang5454 Месяц назад
Don't really agree but I would like to see the games rotated among a short list of locations.
@tankeater
@tankeater Месяц назад
@@davestang5454 I could see that, but any more than 3 locations would be at least 16 year gaps and the cost to keep those buildings up wouldn't be a liable option... 1, 2, or 3 locations with premium venues is what the Olympics needs.
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 Месяц назад
That was the original idea, why its a city hosting, not a country. But practically it was impossible. No 1 city could have all the facilities for all sports events, fx, that would mean, that no landlocked city could ever be considered, coz what about the sailing events? Plus, financially its so insanely expensive, it has to be a countrywide effort. Tho I had to admit, I did a double take, when I found out, that the 2024 Paris (read: French) Olympics would be holding the surfing contests on Tahiti on the other side of the world. It does seem insane to be so far away, tho I see their argument, that they wanted all French territories involved, and Tahiti does have some of the best wave. And considering how here just a few days in most of the sailing events have had to be cancelled due to a lack of wind, maybe they shouldve held all ocean involved event over there!
@tankeater
@tankeater Месяц назад
@@dfuher968 you need to think about the amount of events they've added along with the entire world represented having more rounds/heats. Along with the video presentation needed 2 centuries later and the simple logistics needed 128 years later. Los Angeles better do good in 2028, because I honestly think that's one of the best spots to do it. With LA and OC, there's so much infrastructure to house the tourists and an enormous International Airport. California just needs to stop going so far to the left, it's crippling this state with their policies. O yah, in SoCal, we have The Wedge in Newport Beach. They usually start to get big this time of year, but they're only 2 feet today, so, I can't blame them for that choice... Honestly, surfers are uh different breed. Doesn't it sound rad to have the top of the top contest with nothing but your fans, friends, comp, and like minded people. 🤷‍♂️🤘
@solehsolehsoleh
@solehsolehsoleh Месяц назад
They can build a new city in Greece only for the Olympics.
@marcr7583
@marcr7583 Месяц назад
the corruption part has been left out: these events are excellent for money laundry - that's why they're so incredible expensive. there's a ski jump in a more recent winter games event that cost about the same as the complete games in Montreal.
@SauROnmiKE
@SauROnmiKE Месяц назад
As a Greek, the lasting effects of our corrupt Games are still felt to this day. It was awesome to be a part of them, but it hurt the country a lot.
@luciennedespota909
@luciennedespota909 22 дня назад
A permanent location makes total sense. Although the Paris Olympics were beautiful and well organized, getting from one event to another became a real hassle on certain days. The opening ceremony was a five minute walk from my hotel. Due to security issues, and Metro train problems, I ended up needing to take three different trains back to my hotel. I had to show my Pass Jeux six times just to get onto the block of the hotel. There were huge lines at train stations and at the different events. Eliminating the need for public transportation and utilizing buses and vans which move people from one event to another without traversing huge swaths of a metropolitan area would be cheaper, easier and eliminate the need for the military and police to be stationed on every street.
@bubbabear244
@bubbabear244 Месяц назад
The Big Owe in Montreal for the 1976 Olympics didn't pay off their debt on the Stade Olympique until 2004. It's not being used regularly as the Als and CFM play elsewhere where they don't need a 65k seat venue.
@123mathtutorabc4
@123mathtutorabc4 Месяц назад
lol, the CFM play right next door and the Als prefer an 100 year stadium to the Big Owe, oh yeah they are going to spend another $870 million to replace the roof again...
@krisppynugget
@krisppynugget Месяц назад
At the very least they still use or have repurposed some of the old sports vicinities (the aquatic center is still in use today, for example, and the biodome was converted from the '76 velodrome), but the Big O itself is a white elephant, the whole thing has and always will be an exorbitant money drainer.
@lanceschmidt3047
@lanceschmidt3047 Месяц назад
A bit of trivia - it was also the first games where the host country didn’t win a gold medal.
@genebohannon8820
@genebohannon8820 Месяц назад
Champlain Islander here and the Big O has been a laughing stock my whole life. I saw an exposure game in 1980 and it wasn't finished then and the place was empty
@123mathtutorabc4
@123mathtutorabc4 Месяц назад
MONSTER SPECTACULAR!!!!!!!!!!
@SonOfAsgard-ku4kd
@SonOfAsgard-ku4kd Месяц назад
I'm from Atlanta and I can tell you that the 96 Olympics put Atlanta on the MAP!!!! The City took off after the Olympics and has never look back!
@n7y8c7
@n7y8c7 Месяц назад
Exactly! Not to mention, Olympic venues are still in use today. The Olympic Village are dorms for Georgia Tech, Georgia State uses Turner Field, and Centennial Olympic Park has generated billions in spinoff development like the Georgia Aquarium.
@Mystipaoniz
@Mystipaoniz Месяц назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="511">8:31</a> "It puts your city on the map...." Yeah because nobody ever heard of Paris, Los Angeles, Beijing.... I wonder how does that makes an argument. It's not like the olympics are hosted in a small village, that actually needs to be put on the map.
@CarlosD374
@CarlosD374 Месяц назад
That's more of a recent trend though. The Olympics did help some cities in becoming more prominent, such as Seoul which in 1988 wasn't the world leading metropoli it's today. Something similar happened to Barcelona in 1992, which of course was always well known and fairly important on a world scale, but it did help Spain get back on the world stage in the aftermath of its decades long dictatorship. Also, Atlanta isn't really a city that's known outside of the US; similar to Brisbane which will be the 2032 host. This is also a problem that mostly applies to the Summer Olympics, as many not-so-worldwide-popular cities have also hosted the Winter Olympics, such as: Pyeongchang, Sochi, Lillehammer, Nagano, Sarajevo, etc.
@worawatli8952
@worawatli8952 Месяц назад
Imagine Sealand holding Olympic.
@high-captain-BaLrog
@high-captain-BaLrog Месяц назад
Typical RU-vid intellectual
@neilbiggs1353
@neilbiggs1353 Месяц назад
@@CarlosD374 I remember the discussion happening specifically around Birmingham or Manchester bids for the Olympics in England. UKA were told that they'd only consider bids from capital cities (which raises odd questions in the UK with technically 4 capitals, Belfast, Cardiff and Edinburgh in addition to London)
@Mark.G475
@Mark.G475 Месяц назад
😂 funny
@derekh4511
@derekh4511 Месяц назад
Munich Olympic Park still makes money, every year, and is a stunning place to visit. There's always something happening there, sports, concerts, carnivals, all kinds of stuff.
@tk80mufa5
@tk80mufa5 Месяц назад
@derekh4511 not really , both the Munich & Berlin Olympic Parks are costing taxpayers millions every year in maintenance , and that for decades now. the few events are nice , but don't bring in anywhere near the exorbitant costs. Munich alone is scheduled to undergo the third (?!) renovation of its super complicated roof structure , they are talking about the possibility of 280 Mio. € !!! -- just for a roof renovation !!!
@howl_with_the_wolves
@howl_with_the_wolves Месяц назад
That's because the Germans are great people that know what the hell they're doing. Where is the rest of the places that host the Olympics? They're all corrupt with politicians that are even more corrupt
@setlerking
@setlerking 27 дней назад
The IOC has also overlooked a bunch of cities that would’ve worked great who did bid while picking exotic, flashy cities with little to no infrastructure to actually host like Rio
@Rverma30
@Rverma30 Месяц назад
You didnt touch on the $1Bn question - will cities still want to bid anymore given the ratings for Olympics are dropping like a rock. No viewers = less tv revenue = why are we putting on such a big show at all?
@bernardpolicarpio651
@bernardpolicarpio651 Месяц назад
If The world market in general would still be interested. Same reason why hotdog eating contests and jerks playing computer games have their own olympics. Only a few percent of humanity wants to still be fit..
@MikeBenko
@MikeBenko Месяц назад
I think having Greece as a permanent venue makes the most sense historically, economically, environmentally. It's the birthplace of the idea, it is a country that is accustomed to handling large volumes of visitors, it has a diverse cultural and environmental offer, it can invest into building out the necessary infrastructure knowing it will be a recurring event etc.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield Месяц назад
Imagine if the games took place in Greece for the past 20 years. The venues would've become legendary.
@turtlefrog-tn3ek
@turtlefrog-tn3ek Месяц назад
greece does not have a diverse culture, its a white country, period.
@NationalParksArtist
@NationalParksArtist Месяц назад
Just rotate between, like, LA, Beijing or Tokyo, London/Paris, and Sydney/Brisbane. Pick 4-5 cities that have everything in place and each city hosts every 20-24 years.
@SenileOtaku
@SenileOtaku Месяц назад
Exactly what I've thought. Although you probably wouldn't want the rotation more than 20 years. But a rotation schedule would let the games have diverse locations, and the intervening time allows the hosting cities do whatever maintenance & upgrades needed. They would have the expectation of recouping costs, which the current system doesn't. It's like Worldcon (World Science Fiction Convention). You'd be amazed at how many times Boston (NESFA primarily) has hosted Worldcon. Meanwhile NYC hasn't had a Worlcon since I think the 1960's (I had been on a bid committee for a NYC-centric Worldcon, which we had to drop when one of the hotels we would have used sold off it's function space).
@lanapapas
@lanapapas Месяц назад
I lime that😊
@74_pelicans
@74_pelicans Месяц назад
Melbourne is better than both Sydney and Brisbane with its infrastructure, although why it needs to be one city. Melbourne hosted events in 2000 so why cant it be shared.
@sharpasacueball
@sharpasacueball Месяц назад
Tokyo was a disaster
@jorgeortega6806
@jorgeortega6806 Месяц назад
​@@sharpasacueball but because of covid
@diegosilang4823
@diegosilang4823 20 дней назад
In Vancouver, all Olympic facilities are still in use, but the Provincial and Feds had not fully recovered the cost. The winner are the real estate investors who inflated property cost and making it unaffordable to average people.
@johndodd6843
@johndodd6843 Месяц назад
The exception was also the most criticized: Atlanta. Atlanta made a profit and its legacy projects have mostly been used (the Olympic stadium became Turner Field, home of the Braves. It's now Georgia States football stadium and hosts the high school semifinals)
@BooksRebound
@BooksRebound Месяц назад
Barcelona, Toronto and New York being nowhere near their actual location on the map is really sending me 😂
@aromaticsnail
@aromaticsnail Месяц назад
Because a photo and video editors aren't the right tools to create maps. I also noticed and it's annoying as a map maker, considering the channel is all about Geography and Geopolitics (and sports). There are plugins that they could use with Photoshop to make accurate maps, if they really want to use such software.
@BooksRebound
@BooksRebound Месяц назад
@@aromaticsnail But they could have just manually placed the dots in the right location. It's easy to adjust their position. Then again most people won't know, or maybe it was just a trap to make us pendants comment. People are transparent lol. A friend of mine codes and when he runs into problems, he asks reddit. Nobody would answer until he started logging in on a second account and answering his own question with an answer so egregiously wrong that people were compelled to respond lmao. We're predictable af. But yeah, they marked around around Murcia, Washington and Sudbury which is funny
@esgee3829
@esgee3829 Месяц назад
it's probably because the train he was on when making the graphic was amtrak and VERRRRRRRY SHAKEY. i inferred this because i watched half the ad read.
@gamechip06
@gamechip06 Месяц назад
Guys chill it's ok it's funny and it's not the important part if it was about the cities themselves then yeah that's reasonable but they're just mentioned here
@anongecko
@anongecko Месяц назад
The red dots are the city locations, not the white dots
@nlpnt
@nlpnt Месяц назад
One of many problems was the draconian restrictions on local businesses the IOC insisted on to protect their sponsors (international corporations); one that was well-publicized in 2012 around the London games was that local chip shops within a certain radius of a venue were forbidden from selling...chips. Fries, that is, because McDonalds had exclusive rights. "Fish and chips" was allowed as a heritage food but no selling fried potatoes on their own or as a side to anything else. Apparently a lot of fried fish was thrown out...
@TheRealScooterGuy
@TheRealScooterGuy Месяц назад
Had not heard about those restrictions before. I don't think that would fly in the US, but maybe someone knows otherwise. I could see restrictions in the venues or on sidewalk vendors, of course, but the IOC has no authority to restrict the products sold by existing businesses. If the cities tried to make such restrictions, the businesses would tie them up in court until well-after the event.
@tk80mufa5
@tk80mufa5 Месяц назад
@@TheRealScooterGuy nah you should read up on these Swiss IOC FIFA UEFA contracts and the clauses they put in them , whichever country kneels down to their demands gets the games , countries that don't simply go empty handed. they even put something in regarding suspending lawsuits during the duration of the event , and guaranteeing legal "consistency" or something. don't forget , after the event is done , the money goes back to Switzerland , a non-signatory country to most US & EU contracts / supranational courts.
@johnpk5831
@johnpk5831 Месяц назад
It costs too much to run the games and bribe the IOC. Then there's all the headaches before, during and after the games for the host city.
@Lutefisk_lover
@Lutefisk_lover Месяц назад
I’m proud to live in the one place that rejected an awarded Olympics. Colorado was awarded the 1976 Winter Olympics. It was put to a citizen vote, and rejected. Due to the cost and the environmental impacts. Good for us.
@goodshipkaraboudjan
@goodshipkaraboudjan Месяц назад
Lucky. I'm in Brisbane and the public opposition to the bid was overwhelming but 2032 it's coming here and the opposition has only intensified.
@Erik_The_Viking
@Erik_The_Viking Месяц назад
Denver CO has originally won the 1976 Olympics but they decided to withdraw in 1972, so it went to Innsbruck Austria. Smart move on their part. The costs have skyrocketed out of control, IOC demands, politics, financial issues, and much more. LA in 1984 was one of the best Olympics ever and the fact they pulled a profit was incredible at the time.
@nicko5945
@nicko5945 Месяц назад
SLC proved it can be done and turn a profit. It’s why Denver actually tried to bid on the Olympics again but they lost to a second bid from SLC. SLC will now be hosting again in 2034 and will turn yet another profit.
@InTeCredo
@InTeCredo Месяц назад
Same with Munich that lucked out with all of its facilities still in use to this day, including Olympic Village that had been converted to the private residential homes and student housing.
@Erik_The_Viking
@Erik_The_Viking Месяц назад
@@InTeCredo Munich definitely lucked out, which is more than you can say about other locations.
@MJCLAXDEN
@MJCLAXDEN Месяц назад
@@nicko5945 Actually, that's not true. Denver had some (very Left leaning) business leaders and politicians who wanted it. LITERALLY, nobody else wanted it.
@nicko5945
@nicko5945 Месяц назад
@@MJCLAXDEN actually it is true. Never said the people wanted it, only that Denver put in a bid with the USOC against SLC and SLC won the vote.
@Hex4Trex
@Hex4Trex Месяц назад
I lived in the area where the London Olympics regenerated it, and I feel overall the legacy regeneration was successful and the area is thriving. The only thing it didn't really deliver well on was enough truly affordable housing for residents such as key workers, so there is an element of investors taking up property or 'gentrification'. But the public areas and green spaces that everyone can enjoy has done the area fantastic along with sporting, arts and entertainment facilities, restaurants, local shops, offices etc. But it did require commitments and ongoing investment to make the legacy work.
@etienne8110
@etienne8110 Месяц назад
The games were used as a convenient excuse for gentryfication.
@smfreeze
@smfreeze Месяц назад
They done gentrified Stratford 😢
@TemptressTeelia
@TemptressTeelia Месяц назад
I live in Stratford, and I disagree to a certain extent. Due to the building of the stadium, they demolished many flats in that area. Which was were homeless and drug addicts squatted. Now I ain’t advocating squatting. But when the buildings left, the tent city that appeared in the Stratford mall was atrocious. Still now, as I live across the tracks, on the non Westfield side, we have so much drug addicts and homelessness around. We have homelessness living in bushes next to schools. I’ve have seen people streak in FRONT of schools, as they propped their tents right behind a playground. I’ve had people stab each other right on my doorstep before 8am! So whilst the olympics rejuvenated the area of E20, E15 has felt the negatives of it. I will say though, we have used the park unlike the other hosts. So that’s a good thing tbh.
@keithhallam1155
@keithhallam1155 Месяц назад
How is shipping the basketball stadium from London 2012 to Rio creating a legacy for east London? In an area of high unemployment an overwhelmingly white labour force was imported to build the Olympic venues, accompanied by white racist thugs wearing 'Olympic security' coats terrorising the local community. How does a community worker explain to young people that the biggest building site in Europe was within sight of their homes, yet minimal local people were employed in this site? Basketball is associated with black players (especially at the highest level) yet no basketball stadium remained in the Olympic site after the (money making) games had finished.
@Hex4Trex
@Hex4Trex 26 дней назад
@@TemptressTeelia Yes, it's a problem that has always needed to be addressed and this council has never managed to do so properly. I think it's better getting rid of those flats than hiding the problems in those flats which were a state. They were squatting nearby buildings where I lived (E15 too) but they were still out in the neighbourhood, it took an incident for them to finally knock them down, yes they are still about but the police have more visibility, in our area it started getting a little better. A few of my friends even came to live here. I think the most of the Olympic legacy very well utilised though, but yes, more should have been put back to E15.
@j-lon3564
@j-lon3564 Месяц назад
Im from Rio and besides the public transportation improvement(only in very specific areas), the Olympics were more of a detriment than a benefit for the city. The Olympic venues are mostly left unused and are just a huge public cost. Of all the venues built(this means excluding the ones that were already there before, like the Olympic stadium Nilton Santos), only 1.5 are used nowadays. One of them being repurposed for shows and other events like the UFC, the Jeunesse Arena, and 0.5 being the actual Olympic city(where all the venues are located) that is used for the Rock in Rio events. The Olympic city used to be used for other shows, but because it’s located so close to residential areas, the government has made it illegal to host other events there. The other venues are all left unused. The tennis courts built for the Olympics aren’t even used for the Rio Open events. The cycling arena is abandoned and only serves the purpose of wasting electricity as it needs to be kept at a constant temperature. The Olympic pool is either empty or completely abandoned. I could go on and on. The only real benefits were the BRT(express bus system), that was expanded and improved, and the subway system.
@jamaarbrundidge1395
@jamaarbrundidge1395 Месяц назад
Atlanta has repurposed many facilities from the 1996 Olympics. My kids learned to swim in Olympic-size pools in the inner city of Atlanta.
@kimyeung5307
@kimyeung5307 Месяц назад
Worst Olympic Games ever (Atlanta)
@williamwolf2844
@williamwolf2844 Месяц назад
But almost always this reuse and repurposing of Olympic venues is horribly cost inefficient. Absolutely massive amounts of money are spent on making a small number of gold-plated venues. And then after the Olympics, they are used far below capacity for things like what you mentioned. A much better way to do this would be to have not had the Olympics and to take only 10% of the total money spent on the Olympics and actually invest that for sports facilities throughout the city, especially in low income areas.
@donnyslader9025
@donnyslader9025 Месяц назад
And the Atlanta games were bought - not won fair and square.
@tk80mufa5
@tk80mufa5 Месяц назад
@@williamwolf2844 agreed ! great comment !
@Usercute-fx6uq
@Usercute-fx6uq Месяц назад
This might be different for the winter games. I’m from Salt Lake and we still use every venue we built from our games for local sports, college teams, youth programs, and athlete olympic training.
@fullmooney561
@fullmooney561 Месяц назад
Vancouver is very similar, everything is being used in all seasons.
@CD3MC
@CD3MC Месяц назад
Same with Calgary. It's legitimately only the bobsled track that's no longer in use (formerly the busiest such track globally), and that's only because the refrigeration system kicked the bucket a few years ago, and they can't find the funds to fix it. :(
@user-zf1kd5qq1t
@user-zf1kd5qq1t Месяц назад
They may be getting used. But Youth programs, local sports, and college teams aren't paying off billions of dollar of investment. They'll bring in a small fraction of revenue to actually pay it off.
@glacialis3329
@glacialis3329 Месяц назад
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@fullmooney561Vancouver is one of the rare scenarios where the host city broke even on the games with a profit of $1.9 million. And then there’s the economic benefit to the rest of the region in tourism during the games. I think it shows that you can run the games effectively and provide a massive benefit to the region both in infrastructure and economic growth without the need to spend billions and billions. Vancouver cost $6.4B to run (including transportation upgrades), while Korea in 2018 cost twice that (not to mention Russia at $51B)
@rebeccarichardson8669
@rebeccarichardson8669 Месяц назад
They need to have a place called Olympic City. It would be kinda like Vatican City. They could just build a place with arenas, hotels, and restaurants. It would only be open during the games. Every four years, all the athletes travel to Olympic City to compete. 😎
@bbutler7158
@bbutler7158 Месяц назад
💯
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng Месяц назад
What about the Winter Olympic Games?
@rebeccarichardson8669
@rebeccarichardson8669 Месяц назад
@@RaymondHng Ok I didn't think of that. 😂
@j-lon3564
@j-lon3564 Месяц назад
And for the other years, nobody lives there or works there? How would that even be maintained? Many of the Olympic venues need constant care and work. Hotels, restaurants, etc. need to be kept clean and maintained during the 4 years that the city would be closed. It’s not plausible to have a city that is kept closed for the majority of the time.
@rebeccarichardson8669
@rebeccarichardson8669 Месяц назад
@@j-lon3564 Amusement parks are open seasonally. I just think Olympic City would be a long term plan. We shouldn't be building brand new venues every four years. I think there's a way to make it work.
@ManuelVIAUD
@ManuelVIAUD 22 дня назад
It's a bit sad as Olimpism should be universalism, but the Paris model should be the ones to follow. That means hosting OG in cities with existing sport venues, consistent transportation network and accomodations, as well as temporary structures within the city. Furthermore, countries hosting the Olimpics should have an "Olympic culture", meaning that the investments made may benefit local populations in their sport practices. There is no sense hosting OG in Saudi Arabia or Qatar for instance, because they won't use what they would build and performance programs would probably be short term to have decent results the year they host it. It limits the potential hosts to a shortlist with Paris, London, Berlin in Europe, US/CAN big cities, Tokyo, Beijing and maybe Sidney.
@e-moshe
@e-moshe Месяц назад
I’m in Brisbane and there’s already infighting going on around the 2032 Olympics. For example they wanted to demolish the Gabba stadium, which was still perfectly good for a white elephant. There is however already the world class Suncorp stadium relatively nearby. Thankfully, it seems that has been canned. Oh, and there was also the underhanded way they wanted to expand the Belmont shooting range by razing parts of the natural forest right next to it. Thankfully someone noticed and it was blocked.
@kholdstare90
@kholdstare90 Месяц назад
Really doesn't help the blatantly corrupted John Coates gloating about getting another games under his tenure as president of the AOC by breaking rules and entirely behind closed doors. Then there were protests shortly after the announcement, then "don't use existing infrastructure, build new stuff", "if we go over budget a different city will pay" combined with "basically every single calculation says any point of benefit flew by $800 million ago and we're just barely 1/3 of the way into the budget". Hell, March there were talks about backing out of the whole ordeal and the subsequent federal inquiry really did not paint a good picture.
@Jota_M9999
@Jota_M9999 Месяц назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="3">0:03</a> sounds like he's rapping to the beat
@littledudefromacrossthestr5755
@littledudefromacrossthestr5755 Месяц назад
Lol
@Jaden-y7e
@Jaden-y7e 27 дней назад
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@cwg73160
@cwg73160 25 дней назад
ok cool
@JesusChristislord372
@JesusChristislord372 21 день назад
(John 3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. We are all sinners and we have all fallen short of the glory of God God has pronounced that the penalty of sin Even just one would make you liable To spiritual and physical death and separation from God for all of eternity in a place of judgment called Hell after death. But here is the Good News!: “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. Jesus died in place of you Because He loves you And because God does not want to see you in hell! And He rose again on the third day he is victorious over sin and death and He offers the same victory! Jesus loves you and He wants a relationship with you. everything this world can offer is nothing compared to what God offers you true love, peace forgiveness, hope, purpose, fulfillment and Life Repent turn from your sins and turn to God! He is going back soon so be ready or be ready to be left behind. (1 john 9-10) If we acknowledge our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from every wrongdoing. If we say, “We have not sinned,” we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. Romans 10:9-11 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame." (For Christians) you don't need to do anything to be saved because Jesus paid the price in full for your sins BUT when you are saved your salvation is going to be shown In how you live. A saved person isn't gonna live like an unbeliever I am not saying you won't mess up from time to time we’re humans that's bound to happen but what I am saying is every single person who has had a true encounter with Jesus will never be the same Be careful.
@rebeccajayden9718
@rebeccajayden9718 17 дней назад
True
@ulizez89
@ulizez89 Месяц назад
The IOC learned nothing from their greek history, they sinned of hubris and now they are here.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield Месяц назад
Everything is a sin for you guys
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 Месяц назад
I'm sinning right now all over my ...
@ATLIEN333
@ATLIEN333 26 дней назад
You left out this great example the ATLANTA 1996 in total, these Games turned a profit of $19 million. The cost for Atlanta 1996 compares with costs of $4.6 billion for Rio 2016, $40-44 billion for Beijing 2008, and $51 billion for Sochi 2014 (the most expensive Olympics in history). The average cost for the Summer Games since 1960 is $5.2 billion.
@SteveGaudi1976
@SteveGaudi1976 24 дня назад
Atlanta were the most commercialised games in the games' history- marked by a terrorist act and the fact that they bought the games instead of letting them held in Athens for the 100 years commemoration
@Mr.Verethron
@Mr.Verethron Месяц назад
Why the heck dont they show the games in a worldwide olympics streaming platform where some of the revenue from ads, etc goes to the city that hosts the games?
@Duncan_Campbell
@Duncan_Campbell Месяц назад
because then they can't sell the TV rights for us much. TV rights now, or maybe money in the future.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng Месяц назад
@@Duncan_Campbell ​Broadcasting revenue is a crucial source of funding for the Olympics and helps support the staging of future Games, as well as various programs under the International Olympic Committee (IOC). Allocation of Broadcasting Revenue The IOC redistributes the revenue generated from broadcasting rights to various stakeholders and programs to ensure the sustainable development of the Olympic Movement. Here’s how the breakdown typically works: Organizing Committees for the Olympic Games (OCOGs): A significant portion of the *revenue goes directly to the OCOGs to cover the costs of hosting the Games,* including infrastructure, operations, and security. For example, *the Tokyo 2020 Olympics received around 70% of its budget from broadcasting rights, sponsorships, and ticket sales.* National Olympic Committees (NOCs): The IOC allocates funds to NOCs worldwide to support the development of athletes and sports programs in their respective countries. These funds help NOCs cover the costs of training, equipment, and participation in the Olympics. International Federations (IFs): IFs governing each Olympic sport receive funding to support the development of their respective sports globally. This includes organizing world championships, development programs, and promoting grassroots participation. Olympic Solidarity: The Olympic Solidarity program is designed to assist NOCs, particularly those from developing countries, in ensuring their athletes can participate in the Games. Funding from this program helps provide scholarships, coaching, and technical assistance. IOC Operational Costs: A portion of the revenue is used to cover the IOC’s operational costs, including administration, marketing, and promotional activities. The IOC also invests in its digital platforms and media operations to enhance the coverage and engagement of the Games. Example of Revenue Distribution For the period of the 2013-2016 Olympic cycle, the IOC generated approximately USD 5.7 billion in revenue, with a significant portion coming from broadcasting rights. Here’s a rough breakdown of how these funds were distributed: *Organizing Committees: USD 2.5 billion* NOCs and IFs: USD 1.5 billion Olympic Solidarity: USD 500 million IOC operations and reserves: USD 1.2 billion These allocations ensure that the benefits of the revenue are spread across the entire Olympic Movement, promoting the development of sports globally and supporting the successful staging of future Olympic Games.
@trninfan
@trninfan 29 дней назад
Because no one will pay for another streaming service. I'm already paying about $60 for streaming services
@inodesnet
@inodesnet Месяц назад
As a Sydney resident who attended the games, it is well known that the economic benefits were strongely felt for over 20 years. The stadium still holds the record for the largest Olympic stadium (Melbourne 1956 was the second largest). But it was reconfigured to be smaller after the games. Sydney gained a new airport train line and an Olympics line that is regularly are from well before to now. The Olympic village was designed to be converted to homes after the Oympics and is a thriving suburb today. The venues are very frequently used today. The Olympic area was a derelict wasteland but it and surrounding areas are among the most densily populated areas of Sydney today. The economic benefits included a change to have Sydney still be today, the primary city for UHNWI (ultra high net worth individiual) migration. If there was anything that the city gained that it may not have wanted, it was a massive increase in population and wealth leading it to become one of the most overpriced real estate markets in the world. Sydney's success is why Brisbane has been desperate to host the Olympics for so long. It's following LA in 2034.
@tk80mufa5
@tk80mufa5 Месяц назад
and yet the recent news out of Brisbane have not been great regarding 2032
@daleviker5884
@daleviker5884 Месяц назад
I lived in Sydney in 2000 and still fondly remember those Games. The only people who vilify the event are the joyless types that vilify everybody and everything.
@aj1218
@aj1218 Месяц назад
Bill Schmidt was a bronze medal olymian during the Munich Olympics. After his Olympic glory he became an early adopter of sports marketing. He was one of the planners for the Worlds Fair that was in Knoxville Tennessee. That event was profitable and he was invited to become a lead planner for the LA games in 1984. He helped make it profitable. Then became one of the lead marketers for Gatorade and transformed that company. He is a fantastic man that is always behind the scenes in these discussions
@checkanr138
@checkanr138 Месяц назад
oh he made kids drink sugary drinks that lead to diabetes, by suggesting that athletes (they just use a gatorade labeled bottle with non sugary drinks inside) drink gatorade. well done. diabetes for the win.
@PC-tan
@PC-tan Месяц назад
​@@checkanr138I remember hearing just how many cavities these Olympians seem to have as well. Because of that stuff. Also I just watched Idiocracy and in that word Gatorade is an evil company that basically made everyone get rid of water. So I'm sure that years after him that people were finally able to put two and two together.
@RalstigRacing
@RalstigRacing Месяц назад
@@checkanr138Older Gatorade was different than the sugary water we have now.
@checkanr138
@checkanr138 26 дней назад
@@RalstigRacing i am fully aware how gatorade came to be what it is today. the actual formula developed at florida university that was not tasting good is what is still what athletes use (they dont use the sugary bs that is sold by gatorade or other "sport drink" companies, simply put just some minerals and electrolytes. but the stuff you get in stores is full of sugar and not healthy at all. There are 34 g of sugar (8 teaspoons) in one 20 US fluid ounces (590 ml) bottle of regular Gatorade.
@chatify68
@chatify68 Месяц назад
Paris Olympics has shown that Olympics has become rotten to the core.
@daeith1233
@daeith1233 Месяц назад
Sports taking place under the Eiffel Tower, in Versailles, les Invalides, le Grand Palais, Marseille and even Tahiti, what's rotten abt it? We used a lot of infrastructures already had, things are going great
@chatify68
@chatify68 Месяц назад
@@daeith1233 You must be from another planet, oblivious to all the scandals this Olympics have had AND CONTINUES TO HAVE!!
@impositive17_07
@impositive17_07 Месяц назад
@@daeith1233its super disorganised. The paint was ripping of the roads in the opening ceremony.
@daeith1233
@daeith1233 Месяц назад
@@impositive17_07 it actually was, idk where you're from but as a French Paris has never been this organized, Im shocked that it took them to use more policemen and get rid of poor people and potential scamers, but Im sadly gonna say it was worth it. Every tourists I met loved the opening and the olympics, sad to see that only people oversea and who aren't even there are hating, expecially on organisation bc it was actually great
@impositive17_07
@impositive17_07 Месяц назад
@@daeith1233 if paris was never this organised seems like a bigger issue. the fact that the organisation had to call police from different countries to protect the participants and the fact that the food is so bad that chefs are actually being called from home countries speaks volumes.
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