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Want to annihilate your opponents, but not your wallet?
Look no further than our upgrade guide for the five-color Modern Horizons 3 “Eldrazi Incursion” precon! Eldrazi aficionado Ashlen Rose is here to reshape this deck’s reality by adding 10 powerful new cards and sending 10 back to the void, all for under $50. With these swaps, you’ll be strong enough to scour your opponents from existence!
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:05:51 - "Eldrazi Incursion" Precon Upgrade
00:07:53 - Possible Commanders
00:14:06 - Notable Reprints
00:17:29 - Reprint Value
00:21:42 - Stats
00:25:47 - Best Cards
00:33:01 - Upgrade Goals
00:41:44 - Cards to Add
01:00:29 - Honorable Mentions
01:06:44 - Cards to Cut
01:14:08 - How The Deck Plays
01:20:44 - To the Listeners
01:22:50 - Bocchi the Rock!
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@commandcast
@commandcast Месяц назад
What do you think of this precon? Any cards we missed? Any cards we suggested to take out or add that you disagree with?
@ArtiePhillips
@ArtiePhillips Месяц назад
I'm not sure the first trigger from Conduit of Ruin would work with the copy from Ulalek. From my understanding, the trigger would resolve once, shuffling the deck and putting a 7 drop on top. But once the 2nd trigger resolves, upon finding a second 7 drop, the forced shuffle would tuck the first drop you found back into the deck. Still a great include though, with a cost reduction of 4.
@MFobes
@MFobes Месяц назад
@@ArtiePhillips ^
@alberhawkgaming8960
@alberhawkgaming8960 Месяц назад
You can go infinite with the echoes of eternity, Ulalek, and the Spawn Gang Lieutenant by sacrificing two of the three spawns created to keep paying for the ulalek triggers and then make infinite spawns and sacrifice them to the Lieutenant to kill everyone at the table. Also you can just one shot kill everyone with Aetherflux Reservoir by copying the ability with ulalek and echoes. Just some of the few things you can do with Ulalek :)
@brycewilliams3993
@brycewilliams3993 Месяц назад
Will you revisit once we have prices for the set’s cards?
@jasonhorn5976
@jasonhorn5976 Месяц назад
Not the best in the set but it's definitely a bomb eldrazi deck.. also I think imma need to join the Patreon lol this video came out and the 50 dollars in upgrades are already like 75 😆 🤣
@Cal-fr9mw
@Cal-fr9mw Месяц назад
Y’all had the perfect guest for this pre-con
@enoesiw
@enoesiw Месяц назад
I did get a turn 5 win with this deck out of the box. Similar to what you mentioned in the start of the video, but i had ulalek down on turn 2 because of a sol ring into talisman start. Then i copied Glaring Fleshraker on turn 3, copied Chittering Disptcher on turn 4, then attacked with both dispatchers on turn 5. With the myriad triggers on the stack, i cast Eldritch Immunity (C eldrazi instant) that gives a target (the fleshrakers) protection from all colors and copied everything on the stack. 8 damage from spawns entering. 16 damage from dispatcher copies entering. That was 37 damage to each opponent before the 6/8/6 going at face and a pending 16 damage at the end of the turn when the 8 myriad copies left the battlefield and each left a spawn behind.
@FoxHound-xu1mq
@FoxHound-xu1mq Месяц назад
If only we could get this precon for a fair f*cking price....
@Chucklepuffs
@Chucklepuffs Месяц назад
Factsssss
@joking1211
@joking1211 Месяц назад
Egh I payed 80 for it
@Acidblack027
@Acidblack027 Месяц назад
It was if you pre ordered the set of 4 for $200
@ML-yn9yu
@ML-yn9yu Месяц назад
I did, only payed 70ish for mine
@user-qw3oh3dx1o
@user-qw3oh3dx1o Месяц назад
Preorder the sets you want when they first become available -from anyone but Amazon, tcgflayer, and card kingdom
@kosche99
@kosche99 Месяц назад
The trigger from Ulalek Copies ALL spells you control on the stack, not just eldrazi ones. Whenever you cast an Eldrazi spell, you may pay {C}{C} . If you do, copy all spells you control, then copy all other activated and triggered abilities you control. You may choose new targets for the copies
@barongeoffrey75
@barongeoffrey75 Месяц назад
So if you play an eldrazi ulalek triggers and if you play an eldrazi in response you can retrigger ulalek so you can copy both eldrazis spells and their ability twice. That is a lot of mana but can be huge.
@kosche99
@kosche99 Месяц назад
@@barongeoffrey75 You could even flash in an Expropriate 7 {U} {U} and get copy it - if you got an Vedalken Orrery effect in play.
@barongeoffrey75
@barongeoffrey75 Месяц назад
@@kosche99 eww gross xd
@CrapsGoodxD
@CrapsGoodxD Месяц назад
​@@barongeoffrey75 wouldn't the last cast trigger only be copied once, since ulalek is added on top of it on stack once after? The second resolution of ulalek would be after resolution of the second eldrazi cast? Correct me if im wrong im noob
@GiraffeCrab
@GiraffeCrab Месяц назад
​@@barongeoffrey75 or go cheeper. Mash in monstrous vortex. Cats Eldrazi with power 5+ copy with ulalek ability. Discover twice. If you discover into another power 5+ Eldrazi cast for free copy the discover, it the copies everything still on the stack. As long as you can pay the two and keep discovering into power 5+ creatures you just keep copying everything on the stack. Either that or I'm playing the game wrong.
@hunterjoverstreet
@hunterjoverstreet Месяц назад
For what it's worth, the face commander is a brood spawn that is a combo of both ulamog and kozilek's lineage and not a combination of the two titans themselves
@coolguywithahat
@coolguywithahat Месяц назад
Doesn’t the booklet reference Ugins hand in a pond analogy and says what if two hands went in at the same time? Ulalek supposedly destroyed a planet/was successful and hasn’t been seen since.
@yoshitheonly
@yoshitheonly Месяц назад
Everytime I see people complaining about the cost, I count my lucky blessing of having a dope LGS with a killer owner that cares more about his customers than raw profit. Picked mine up during pre-release, would've never gotten the chance if he priced them like everyone else has.
@MrTimmyGT
@MrTimmyGT Месяц назад
Yea, my store did charge a "premium" for this deck compared to the others...$80. I thought that was completely fair and when I saw people saying this precon was $130-$150 I was so confused lol
@yoshitheonly
@yoshitheonly Месяц назад
@@MrTimmyGT Lowkey, if I was a business owner, I'd probably do the same at $80. Def arguably fair all things considered. Absolutely insane tho that others get charged 50% more ON TOP of that price. I'd be complaining nonstop too if that were me.
@kstephenson5857
@kstephenson5857 Месяц назад
Yeah I got mine for $85 at my LGS. Was ticked off that they raised the price until I called 3 other LGS's, and the lowest quote among them was $115.
@ohyea456
@ohyea456 Месяц назад
Usually... that means that store won't be around long. If they aren't maximizing their profit, LGSs don't make a ton of money to stay open. If they aren't maximizing their profit, that means they are sacrificing money on each sale... which means they have to sell more than a store that does. I've played magic for 20 years and every store I've seen open that is a "cool" store that prioritizing players happiness is usually gone a couple years later. I hope it's not true for your store, but I have yet to see one last long operating that way.
@mattcowling
@mattcowling Месяц назад
same here
@minine6508
@minine6508 Месяц назад
I'm gonna be honest, this precon going for $140+ is a complete failure of the entire no-msrp landscape. I don't understand why wizards isnt revaluating this problem
@Raymx3
@Raymx3 25 дней назад
Picked it up at a local retailer for ‘msrp’ at $72. It’s still out there, but gotta look
@Fuckyoutubecensorship1
@Fuckyoutubecensorship1 18 дней назад
I got it for $20 at Toys R Us
@ps5392
@ps5392 15 дней назад
What happened to these things going for $35 bucks? I think that was the pricing on the first set of decks. I realize that was a dozen years ago and thing go up in price but still…seems like they could easily be priced around fifty bucks and everyone still makes money.
@gabspvieira
@gabspvieira Месяц назад
Abaout the Conduit of Ruin, you can't stack the top of your library with two scary things unless you manage to draw the first scary thing (from the copied ability) before the other ability (original one) resolves.
Месяц назад
Was going to comment on that. The shuffling is not optional, so it does not work, indeed.
@kstephenson5857
@kstephenson5857 Месяц назад
The precon does come with some card draw, most notably Garruk's Uprising. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the copy of Conduit will resolve, you put your chosen card on top of your library, and then Garruk's Uprising would trigger before your second Conduit would resolve, correct? And yeah I know that card is literally 1/98 in your deck (sans Ulalek and Conduit), but that's why I threw in as much card draw as I could into my upgraded precon
Месяц назад
@@kstephenson5857 I'm pretty sure you're right. If the stack looks like this: Conduit spell < Conduit cast trigger < Conduit spell copy < Conduit cast trigger copy If you copied with Ulalek, then it works. Because you have a copy of the creature entering between the cast triggers. The creature entering would trigger Garruk's uprising, thus making it possible to draw the card before the original cast trigger resolves. Copying any other way that doesn't copy the body would not work with Garruk's Uprising, but having any way to draw a card at instant speed would still allow to get the card on top between the cast triggers (Prophet of Distortion, Snapping Voidcraw, Endbringer, Kozilek's Command, to name examples with the Eldrazi subtype).
@kstephenson5857
@kstephenson5857 Месяц назад
I had a hard time taking out Skittering Invasion just because if you copy it (it is a tribal Eldrazi card after all), then you’re getting 10 blockers AND 10 colorless mana for only 9 mana. I also threw in every colorless cost reducer I could find (like Herald of Kozilek or It That Heralds the End), basically making it so you can duplicate your big beaters crazy fast. Also, Leyline of Anticipation, Alchemist’s Refuge, Urza’s Battlethoper all give your spells flash as well. But the best flash enabler is Skittering Cicada, which gets +X/+X and trample for the mana cost of a colorless spell you cast. As a reminder, that is a cast trigger that will be duplicated with Ulalek, so you can incidentally make your 3-drop suddenly become a 17/17 trampler.
@miekamariehodson1731
@miekamariehodson1731 Месяц назад
Chromatic orrery
@kstephenson5857
@kstephenson5857 Месяц назад
@@miekamariehodson1731 I keep putting that in and then taking it out. It's great, and doubles as insurance for the chromatic lantern everyone's gonna throw in there, but in the end, you really would rather have in the early game mana rocks/ramp spells that are 2-3, maybe 4 mana if you're stretching it. If you don't reduce the # of cheap ramp in order to fit Orrery into your deck, then you are trading it for interaction, card draw, or big Eldrazi payoffs, which in my limited experience is the hardest part of a deck to balance. So it keeps getting cut, as much as I keep trying to put it back in. [Oh, and the ancillary card draw it might have provided with its second ability gets squandered because only a handful of cards at most in your deck will cost colored mana and not have 'devoid.' Feels bad.]
@Stringer207
@Stringer207 Месяц назад
Naturally the eldrazi queen here to upgrade the eldrazi deck. Love it. Also I need that shirt lol
@arridueldes9843
@arridueldes9843 Месяц назад
ok, hear me out, instead of Vedalken orrey, Liberator, Urza's battlethoper. It comes in at flash speed itself, and costs less, both mana and money. Granted it is a creature so interaction is easier, but still, solid surprise move. And for those who do want to run the big splashy titans, mirror box is cheap
@mayerherskowitz
@mayerherskowitz Месяц назад
i already put both in lol
@mistertadakichi
@mistertadakichi Месяц назад
I’d argue that the titans work with Ulalek, even without Mirror Box available. Sure, you only get to keep one of the titans, but you also get a copy of any of their excellent cast triggers. The OG Kozilek and Ulamog also help you with recursion as their “shuffle graveyard into library” ability will activate even if it’s the token copy you’re putting into the graveyard
@DancingGoat
@DancingGoat Месяц назад
+1 for this suggestion. Also, the 'thopter has a cast trigger, which Ulalek can copy, which buffs the thopter when bigger spells are cast.
@Greg501-
@Greg501- Месяц назад
@@DancingGoat Remember, the intervening if clause means it checks when resolving too.
@DancingGoat
@DancingGoat Месяц назад
@@Greg501- That makes sense.
@ProfWalton
@ProfWalton Месяц назад
I am glad I preordered the set. Got all four for $190. I was worried I overspent but I am very happy now!
@cmsfhms
@cmsfhms Месяц назад
Unfortunately you still overspent. But luckily for you the people (consumers) decide the price of the product to a large degree.
@SwagMaster824
@SwagMaster824 Месяц назад
@@cmsfhmsI think it’s stupid that there’s no MSRP for ANY product in Magic. How is that any way to run a business
@pinkcreme69
@pinkcreme69 Месяц назад
@@SwagMaster824 the msrp is $5 per pack, so good luck l0l i got the deck for the original price of $60
@AruhiTheGreat
@AruhiTheGreat Месяц назад
I'm surprised they didn't mention the fact that Kozilek's unsealing 4/5/6 trigger can be used modally depending on how you stack the triggers. If you put it on the stack AFTER Ulalek's trigger, it can help you pay for the trigger when you might otherwise not be able to. If you put it on the stack BEFORE Ulalek's trigger, it generates more mana for more explosive turns by generating extra scions.
@tomdoetsch8603
@tomdoetsch8603 Месяц назад
Seeing Ashlen back for this precon episode was the best part! Her shirt, Eldrazi Game, is fantastic too 😂🤣 long live the Eldrazi Queen!
@ME-rt8pw
@ME-rt8pw Месяц назад
Temur Ascendancy?? Solves both your haste and card draw problems in one card.
@danielleeanes8760
@danielleeanes8760 Месяц назад
Ashley’s shirt is awesome lol. I always appreciate you guys transparency about the price and “bang for your buck” for consumers. Definitely has made me rethink quickly buying some things right as they drop as I’ve instead waited for better prices where I can find them
@Staples317
@Staples317 Месяц назад
If you are running Vedalken Orrery, why not run Leyline of Anticipation in addition or instead. The purchase cost is cheaper (less than $2) and you can start the game with it on the field, and it still only costs 4 total.
@iamunnami
@iamunnami Месяц назад
Because of colors
@Jrizzle7426
@Jrizzle7426 Месяц назад
Double blue pips might be rough with a 6 color commander. It's not impossible it could be a problem.
@Themadwollf
@Themadwollf Месяц назад
Even better, for 3 generic mana you have Skittering Cicada and Liberator, Urza's Battlethopter, both of which are $3-4ish
@Staples317
@Staples317 Месяц назад
@@Themadwollf those are the two I'm running in my eldrazi deck
@xMareZx
@xMareZx Месяц назад
Thanks a lot for going into detail on the tech about the stack, casting, copying etc. 👍🏻
@nathaneyring4858
@nathaneyring4858 Месяц назад
Cards to add: Emergengce Zone, Vedalken Orrery, Void Grafter, Flayer of Loyalties, Reality Smasher, Dust Stalker, Rhythm of the Wild, Swiftfoot Boots Reflections of Littjara, Conduit of Ruin Honorable Mentions: Echoes of Eternity, Eldrazi Linebreaker, Kozilek's Unsealing, Nulldrifter, Sowing Mycospawn, Ugin's Binding
@chrisgebben2043
@chrisgebben2043 Месяц назад
why on earth is Dust Stalker and Reality smasher upgrades? i would not put those in my eldrazi deck
@CS-yo9iq
@CS-yo9iq Месяц назад
I have had a pretty solid 5 color DEVOID deck for a long time. Mana Maze and Spreading Plague really control the table. Ramp/Draw/Control and Annihilator!
@MProducing
@MProducing Месяц назад
I feel like Eldrazi Displacer has a lot of value as a protection piece in being able to blink your stuff in response to your opponents trying to remove it.
@DJM_64
@DJM_64 Месяц назад
Love the Des Moines demons hat
@JasonOshinko
@JasonOshinko Месяц назад
With this deck it's especially important to recognize the distinction between colorless mana and generic mana.
@Dclem742
@Dclem742 Месяц назад
Progenitor's Icon to flash in Eldrazi is a good add too
@Stringer207
@Stringer207 Месяц назад
If you copy Conduit of Ruin’s cast trigger, will you fetch, shuffle, and then place on top. Then do that again? Thus nullifying the first fetch? Or does it basically put two fetches and they both end up on top.
@SigmaZer0
@SigmaZer0 Месяц назад
I have the same question so I'll leave this comment and wait for a reply. :D
@samuelraymond7191
@samuelraymond7191 Месяц назад
Nullifying the first yeah
@Asderios
@Asderios Месяц назад
It's a minor price to pay for 2 instances of cost reduction
@SigmaZer0
@SigmaZer0 Месяц назад
@@Asderios Very true. :)
@Atmatan_Kabbaher
@Atmatan_Kabbaher Месяц назад
Two of my favorite ladies talking about my newest favorite deck in one of my favorite archetypes and color combos. Must be my birthday or something.
@lukebranam-wenger1999
@lukebranam-wenger1999 Месяц назад
54:09 at first glance I thought it didn’t work this way, since I’m 1 of the 3 people with a Verazol commander deck lmao. Kinda wild that with the similar spell copying ability, Verazol gets around the original spell getting countered, while Ulalek does not. Turns out that “copy that spell” vs “copy all spells you control” have very different implications 😅
@dubsinthetubs
@dubsinthetubs Месяц назад
Viva la Verazol!
@UNIVERSESBEYOND
@UNIVERSESBEYOND Месяц назад
Played two games with this deck today, absolutely loved playing it. I think it’s a scary commander so it gets targeted real quick, but it’s awesome when it does its thing!
@DranzerG3
@DranzerG3 Месяц назад
I played against this deck since my friend had a 5 color Eldrazi deck before this and it was pretty decent then, but now my god is it strong. The stack gets so high from all the copiees that you may as well be playing a storm deck. ONE thing I have to emphasize above all else is to make sure you practice this deck with players who are masters of the stack, ideally a judge because we took a few minutes during each activation to sequence it right due to the fact that this is now a truly well supported tribal deck. So you can run all the tribal synergy cards in full force along with all the new powerful eldrazi token generators, annihilate triggers, and cards like Kindred summons. And this heavily complicates the stack. To give you an example of how op this deck can be. I swords to plowshared Ulalek the turn he came out, and my friend still almost won the game due to how strong the new eldrazi tribal synergies are now, even without the commander. Also, anyone who wants to play this commander, don't be shocked if it's removed instantly, this deck is so freaking strong with all it's mana reductions and just every other spells creates spawns and scions so you have even more mana to work with. And now that you're in 5 colors, you have every possible answer to any situation in the game
@CaptVooDooGaming
@CaptVooDooGaming Месяц назад
I just made some changes to my own version. One of the cards I added was Jodah, Archmage Eternal, Regenerations Restored, Ulamon, the Ceaseless Hunger, and Temur Ascendancy. There is some silly techs I threw in there and I'm excited to try my build
@trinitybraley8907
@trinitybraley8907 Месяц назад
i JUST got this and im sooo exited to see it work!!!!
@Phe0nix1986
@Phe0nix1986 Месяц назад
Hyped for this & for my decks arrival!!!
@captcharisma02
@captcharisma02 Месяц назад
This is such a cool build. I like the tech and will have to borrow. I am hoping to get as much deviod in there as possible.
@nerdlabmtg
@nerdlabmtg Месяц назад
i got to play this at Commandfest agains the other precons and got the W. It played great. I am going to build the Azlask (Azlaska).
@dakkarocka
@dakkarocka Месяц назад
Got this and the simic, was thinking of flipping the eldrazi until this video. Looks sorta fun.
@gsmastermike
@gsmastermike Месяц назад
The simic deck just has so much value in reprints I had to cop immediately. Sadly didn't grab the eldrazi one but I don't typically play them
@tengyangpuu04
@tengyangpuu04 Месяц назад
Miss her so much welcome back !!!!
@Ivanjumper13
@Ivanjumper13 Месяц назад
Lean into flash and go seedborn and anything that lets you draw a card whenever you cast a creature to keep your hand full
@youropinionisinspired9954
@youropinionisinspired9954 9 дней назад
I'm now so correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't using the copy while its on the stack end the game as a tie? so if i cast fleshtaker, then ulalek to copy, then crib swap, then ulalek again... the game ends right. the 2nd CMD copies the first making it 2 copies and the new copy will copy the last making it an infinite loop with no get out.
@thor82ak
@thor82ak Месяц назад
Link is for graveyard overdrive, and is not valid. Got the correct deck build link?
@commandcast
@commandcast Месяц назад
Whoops! Updated
@thor82ak
@thor82ak Месяц назад
@@commandcast Thanks.
@drew7180
@drew7180 Месяц назад
So excited for the awesome eldrazi in this release!😍
@tlatoaniretialis8316
@tlatoaniretialis8316 Месяц назад
Thanks guys!!!! Excellent tips!!!!
@mattsk4487
@mattsk4487 Месяц назад
Question: when you cast Conduit of Ruin and copy it with the commander, are those tutor triggers stacked so that you search the first, shuffle, and put it on top then the second trigger resolves and you search shuffle and put the second on top? Meaning would you have to shuffle the first one away?
@myhairismessy3363
@myhairismessy3363 Месяц назад
Yes, you’re correct. The first CoR trigger resolving is not useful unless you have a way to draw a card in-between the CoR triggers.
@DarkPretender205
@DarkPretender205 Месяц назад
how does Glaring Fleshraker trigger to do 12 damage? can you explain the step by step?, because I can only see how you can copy it once? :)
@thatsmrpirate5456
@thatsmrpirate5456 Месяц назад
I got this deck at a prerelease event last week and already added path of annihilation, echoes of eternity, toxic deluge, kozilek's command and desolation twin
@xMareZx
@xMareZx Месяц назад
Does Vedalken Orrery affect all your ramp artifacts when you flash them in and copy them with Ulalek?
@sulakkalus
@sulakkalus Месяц назад
I’ve been calling the mana cost ‘Hybroid’
@kareltje2222
@kareltje2222 Месяц назад
Better than what I was thinking of today. Paying dewhite, deblue, deblack, …
@xbtex
@xbtex 28 дней назад
Eldrazi Displacer can also blink out blockers or other attackers, which is nice just FYI
@MeWeeney
@MeWeeney Месяц назад
I'm feeling pretty lucky! My pod wanted to pre-order the 4 precons. We each wanted different ones so we split the $200 pre-order evenly.
@kvncnh
@kvncnh Месяц назад
31:34, Does the card that comes after glaring fleshraker have to be at instant speed to be on the stack?
@ANGELROOTS619
@ANGELROOTS619 Месяц назад
Been waiting for this!
@Sleepless227
@Sleepless227 Месяц назад
Mystic Forge for my 5 color eldrazj deck with Morophon as the commander goes hard. Not having access to a lot of draw, playing cards from the top of your library really helps, I had an eye of Ugin and was able to play like 3 or 4 eldrazis off the top for free lmao
@hellstocker7707
@hellstocker7707 Месяц назад
I have a lot of questions about Echoes of Eternity. If I copy it on the stack and make two, when I cast my next spell and copy everything on the stack how many versions will there be? Because wont the two Echoes of Eternity see each other trigger and make each other trigger an additional time? Plus won't they make Ulalek trigger two additional times? and won't the following Ulalek triggers be able to copy everything that proceeded them including the previous Ulalek copies? So.......You cast a spell -- both echoes of eternity trigger twice making 4 copies -- Ulalek triggers 3 times -- with first ulalek trigger you copy the spell and the 4 copies -- with second Ulalek trigger you copy the spell, 4 copies, and the 5 copies from the previous Ulalek trigger -- with the last trigger you copy the spell, 4 copies, 5 copies from 1st, and all 10 from second. If everything works out and you're able to pay for the two additional activations of Ulalek then you're making 40 versions of the spell. The original and 39 copies
@myhairismessy3363
@myhairismessy3363 Месяц назад
Yes, copying Ulalek’s triggers leads to exponential copies of spells and triggers on the stack. This is an infinite combo as long as you have some way to generate an additional 2 colorless mana e.g. Drowner of Truth’s triggered ability
@sakuralily5907
@sakuralily5907 Месяц назад
Yo bocchi the rock! fantastic show and the music rocks! also great upgrade guide as usual - even if I can't afford and liekly can't get the precon itself!
@CrapsGoodxD
@CrapsGoodxD Месяц назад
Would the urza's mine/ tower/ powerplant cards not be great lands in this deck or am I wrong?
@pawstep3271
@pawstep3271 Месяц назад
I'm happy I got the set of 4 for $200, just got in the mail as I sat down to watch this episode
@g1sbi
@g1sbi Месяц назад
I'm confused on how the manabase could be upgraded in this deck. Are the hurt-lands optimal, or should I upgrade to shock and fetches? It doesn't seem particularly worth it since you don't tap for colored mana that often. Or maybe put the Urza lands?
@magnusprime962
@magnusprime962 Месяц назад
In this deck, the pain lands are a really good option. Eldrazi love colorless mana, and when you do need colors the pain lands give you multiple options for the low price of one damage. For a precon, this manabase is shockingly good, especially compared to the Slivers one last year.
@WardReacts2
@WardReacts2 Месяц назад
1:06:10 You can copy reflexive triggered abilities, so you can in fact copy the last part of ugins binding if someone tries to counter it.
@Soulus101
@Soulus101 Месяц назад
Twinning Staff seems like an easy add for me, it gives you copies of your copies (it does copy any type of copy, not just instants and sorceries). Just try to imagine your Ulalek/Reflections interaction with a Twinning Staff in play :D
@wickieuk1
@wickieuk1 Месяц назад
I’ve had this deck on pre order for ages so been looking forward to this upgrade I managed to pre order it for £55
@AleksaStefanRadunovic
@AleksaStefanRadunovic Месяц назад
I got it for 58£ about a week ago! Can't wait for it to arrive and upgrade it slowly as well.
@HexForger
@HexForger Месяц назад
Very hard to come by. I pre-order it for £57 a month ago and then realized the only place left you could get that precon was Amazon, which is notorious for sending either incorrect decks or cancelling pre-orders.
@amusician1771
@amusician1771 Месяц назад
Same! It’s also just come through my post and Ulalek seems totally busted ngl. Also pulled a foil echoes of eternity from the 2 card collector sample and combining it with ulalek a is hurting my head 😂
@AleksaStefanRadunovic
@AleksaStefanRadunovic Месяц назад
@@amusician1771 thats so cool! How come you got it before the 14th? I thought that's when it actually comes out. Or do some people get it earlier?
@avengedprophet1559
@avengedprophet1559 Месяц назад
@@AleksaStefanRadunovic If the shop has a partnership with Hasbro, they tend to deliver about a week earlier. At least in Germany that‘s the case.
@alexanderolson4990
@alexanderolson4990 Месяц назад
I think one such potential card to put in an azalask deck, is rukarumel from the commander masters slivers deck. It makes 1/1 colorless slivers, and can make those slivers also be scions or spawn. You could additional throw in maskwood nexus as it makes all your things into scions and spawn, and can be a mana sink to make colorless tokens.
@amusician1771
@amusician1771 Месяц назад
Can I just ask why zhulodok isn’t mentioned in cards to add? The way I’ve read it, if you cast a 7+ mana Eldrazi from your hand whilst zhulodok and ulalek are both on the battlefield, you can pay CC, copy the Eldrazi spell which now gives you two spells with cascade, cascade, and THEN you copy the triggers so each spell has double cascade, cascade no?
@famousstranger8468
@famousstranger8468 Месяц назад
Cascade isn't a triggered ability it's why the roaming throne doesn't work in that precon
@RevonlyruGaming
@RevonlyruGaming Месяц назад
@@famousstranger8468 Cascade is a triggered ability, If you have Zhulodok on field, cast a 7 cost Eldrazi, use Ulalek's trigger, you will Cascade 4 times
@famousstranger8468
@famousstranger8468 Месяц назад
@@RevonlyruGaming zhulodok's ability doesn't start with when whenever or at
@Themadwollf
@Themadwollf Месяц назад
​@famousstranger8468 the cascade rule text reads: "when you cast this spell", which is indeed a trigger. Throne doesn't work with Zhulodok because Z gives the spell on the stack cascade, rather than himself, so it's not a trigger of a creature permanent. Ulalek operates differently.
@Tornven2003
@Tornven2003 Месяц назад
I've been experimenting with Zhuludok. I figure you kill the original leaving the token in play because there's that shapeshifter that is basically gravedigger (return creature to hand from grave yard) but as it's classed as an eldrazi it can make another stack by itself and return OG zhuludok to hand and if you can keep copying mana rocks and eldrazi spawn etb's...
@joshuamccartney7712
@joshuamccartney7712 Месяц назад
I preordered this for 74 from Amazon, but it was on announcement. I've played Grixis Eldrazi for 5 plus years with no great commander. I'm psyched to get Ulalek in action!
@maplemeep
@maplemeep Месяц назад
Got the deck day of release for 50$ along with all the other decks for the same price. Great decks for the price!
@razornoir8488
@razornoir8488 Месяц назад
this is the one mh3 product i'm purchasing and i'm so excited ! i'm def building a deck with the 2nd commander so i'm glad this upgrade falls with that plan ! very glad i preordered it for $70 when it was announced 😅😅
@snowmanO07
@snowmanO07 Месяц назад
Really surprised you spoke about flash and Vedalken Orrery, but left out Skittering Cicada!
@BladedCreed
@BladedCreed Месяц назад
Definitely thinking of making Azlask with all the other Experience Counter legends so that I can get max value out of them
@snakeman830
@snakeman830 Месяц назад
Already works really well with most of them. Spawn and Scions are small enough to trigger Ezuri, anything that triggers Azlask will also trigger Meren, Minthara makes a fantastic anthem when you're ready to finish, and Otharri's tokens love the boost from Azlask.
@jayd0lin214
@jayd0lin214 29 дней назад
Haha, look mom my name is on RU-vid! Funny story, Sorin has actually become one of my favorite planewalkers. Maybe its fate I ended up with my last name lol.Its a running joke in my playgroup. Love you guys and your content, keep up the great work!
@CorrinQuest
@CorrinQuest Месяц назад
Managed to get this one for $80, was quite happy
@capitalg6
@capitalg6 Месяц назад
Yes! Ashlen Rose back for the Eldrazi deck! The colorless champion returns! 🩶
@elitefourblue3761
@elitefourblue3761 Месяц назад
Flippy Heliod is also a great add for both ways to build this. Flash and cost reduction!
@Soulus101
@Soulus101 Месяц назад
not sure if you cover this later, Forsaken Monument doesn't double spawn or scion mana, as you don't tap them to get the mana; relevant if you're looking to play it in Azlask.
@Brian-nd5fo
@Brian-nd5fo 21 день назад
Does Selective Obliteration destroy lands as well if its not the color choice?
@myrrkitt9636
@myrrkitt9636 21 день назад
A question Can vile redeemer create a token if it paid the cost then got sacrificed? E.g. cast vile redeemer, paid (1), in response [emerge]cast Elder deep-fiend.
@Soulus101
@Soulus101 Месяц назад
If you cast a second eldrazi spell before you resolve the first ulalek trigger, don't you get a copy of the first trigger? This has infinite potential.
@forloss3
@forloss3 Месяц назад
What is the large tablet you are using?
@TheLocoreaper
@TheLocoreaper Месяц назад
At 1:05:00 you're talking about "not being able to copy" Kozilek's Unsealing. Though not in the way you probably intended.. you did mentioned flash before and you could technically copy is by casting this and casting a flash/instant eldrazi spell while it's on the stack :P
@Bausi88
@Bausi88 Месяц назад
i am pretty new to the game and confused over your ulalek and glaring fleshraker combo. those scions are not spells and so they cant be copied by ulalek. Ulalek only copies spells. As soon as a spell is casted to the battlefield it is no longer a spell. can someone explain that to me. I dont get it...^^
@olivierdebilde4292
@olivierdebilde4292 Месяц назад
Ashleeeeen 🎉 we missed you. Nice to see the Eldrazi Queen around 🎉
@EddieMaetlle
@EddieMaetlle Месяц назад
Parralel Lives says put one or more so it would work as it ounts after they enter battleield right? doubling season says create so that wouldnt work
@JasonOshinko
@JasonOshinko Месяц назад
Parallel Lives says "create" in the oracle text.
@EddieMaetlle
@EddieMaetlle Месяц назад
@@JasonOshinko sorry im new to magic so im not sure what oracle text is i assume its an original version? I must have a reprint with alternative text
@DHunt88
@DHunt88 Месяц назад
I get that this is a budget build but, Ulamog the Defiler to me, is a must add. That dude is insane. I also think Roaming Throne would be a good addition as well
@LeBigsou
@LeBigsou Месяц назад
I found an echoes of eternity alternate foil in the collector sample I got with the deck, talk about luck
@vincentroberto2260
@vincentroberto2260 Месяц назад
They were talking about paying the activation cost multiple times if you cast multiple spells. If you can get spells with flash, and you’re able to pay the activation cost more than once on the same stack, does that mean the activation of this creature would be triggered again? Or, how would that work?
@GTS196
@GTS196 Месяц назад
You can only pay the cost whenever you cast an Eldrazi spell, which I think you already know, but just to make sure it was clear - so you can pay it once per Eldrazi cast. But yes, whenever you pay to copy, you copy all spells and activated/triggered abilities on the stack, regardless of if they’ve been copied already. Furthermore (and maybe this is what you meant), you should be able to cast an Eldrazi, and then in response to Ulalek’s triggered ability, flash another Eldrazi, which triggers him again - pay the two for the second trigger, and copy the stack, including the first Ulalek pay two copy trigger…
@merklegaming
@merklegaming Месяц назад
Cutting displacer is crazy. If you add any sort of token or etb doubler you can create infinte scion tokens with a couple different eldrazi.
@rumpt1549
@rumpt1549 Месяц назад
Ulakek is so easy to break. All you need is another flash eldrazi or kindred instant with some scions on the stack and you can go infinite. Its amazing
@TrashcanActual
@TrashcanActual Месяц назад
Got lucky and received a bordelsss Echoes of Eternity in my Eldrazi Incursion sample booster so that went STRAIGHT into the deck lol. I also added in Strisonic Resonator, and cus im a terrible person - picking up a Roaming Throne too.
@thePrinceofFrogs
@thePrinceofFrogs Месяц назад
Where can I get that ELDRAZI GAME shirt?????????
@ronnierodriguez6247
@ronnierodriguez6247 Месяц назад
I hope to see you guys play this deck
@heresyseed
@heresyseed 20 дней назад
I’ve battled against it twice now and it’s a house… I’m trying to come up with a counter deck build just for facing off against it… any ideas for kryptonite?
@CarterCat60
@CarterCat60 Месяц назад
I dub this color combo Wuless Because I'm clueless with Wuless
@mendes423
@mendes423 Месяц назад
How about creating a nice Azlask spawning/scion deck? Would be awesome.
@Meladoop
@Meladoop Месяц назад
I've heard the thing about the titans being like hands in a pool of water i like to think ulalek is just big kozilek and ulamog holding pinkies from the Blind Eternities :)
@thevampirekiler791
@thevampirekiler791 Месяц назад
i have only a cuestion why you cut a eldrazi displacer that eldrazi have a combo , sorry for my bad english
@geolawie
@geolawie Месяц назад
Mutated Cultist is going to be a lovely surprise for my friend who plays a poison deck. It can't remove my own counters, but I can remove those from others for politics.
@paulszki
@paulszki Месяц назад
do not understand their dismissal of that card. So many decks use counters. Planeswalkers/superfriends, +1/+1 counter theme, anything proliferate related and sure energy decks were mentioned and yes, they're still niche, but will appear with more frequency from now on. Like, even Radiation is a thing. There's so much incidental counter stacking going on that you'll seldomlyy have no targets most importantly, it's a free eldrazi drop or even a ritual sometimes. pay 3. copy for 2 = 5 mana. You now choose TWO cards to remove counters from. Depending on the gamestate you just disrupted 1-2 players completely, you have two 1/3 deathtouchers on the board and your next colorless spell might actually be free to cast. Complete worst case it's a 1/3 deathtoucher. Or two with Ulalek out. The ceiling is: you kill any combination of planeswalkers/+1/+1 creatures/charge-counter synnergies, get two 1/3 deathtouch bodies and your next spell is like 10 colorless mana cheaper. Do. Not. Cut. This. Card.
@enoesiw
@enoesiw Месяц назад
I'm a little surprised you never mentioned Path of Annihilation. It's like a forsaken Monument for your eldrazi except it also mana fixes. Granted, you took a. lot of the scion/spawn synergy out, but even with the stuff you left in, it can make your mana situation a lot better.
@DarkMewtwo1994
@DarkMewtwo1994 Месяц назад
They brought back the GOAT eldrazi queen for the eldrazi precon!! Absolutely perfect ❤ Edit: PS: totally Wana build the secondary commander with a extra combat steps theme. Sure annihilator isn't what it used to be, but when it triggers multiple times in a turn? And all my little dudes attack like crazy? Sounds like fun
@petec7948
@petec7948 Месяц назад
I might be wrong but isn’t the second part of Ugin’s Binding a reflexive trigger? Ergo, when you do exile Ugin’s Binding from the graveyard after it triggers, it puts a separate ability on the stack that says “return each nonland… etc” which can be copied by Ulalek’s triggered ability (which is also a reflexive trigger) if you flash in an Eldrazi spell. 1:06:17
@chrisnengel7520
@chrisnengel7520 Месяц назад
Forerunner of Slaughter is a good add in. It's a cheaply costed Eldrazi that gives haste to your other threats.
@crunkiss
@crunkiss 23 дня назад
My favorite addition to this is Ramos Dragon Engine. With him on the field bringing out Ulalek immediately gives him his 5 + 1/1 counters so now it’s a 9/9 or sack the counters for 10 colored mana. Now imagine if spells at some point are copied and you bring out Ulalek a second time…gives you all the mana you need for your powerhouses while saving your colorless lands
@broveku
@broveku Месяц назад
Skittering Cicada is another good one for flashing colorless spells in
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