Because so long as Allen doesn't know that he's talking to the real Patrick Bateman, Patrick can still feel like he's in a position of control, and take some amount of comfort in that control. The tanning bed is a status thing that Allen has that Patrick does not, regardless of who Allen thinks he's talking to
Wow, that puts things into perspective. I recently watched Eyes Wide Shut, and thought to myself: "Wow, Cruise's really channeling his inner Patrick Bateman." But maybe Tom Cruise is the real Patrick Bateman... he has the crazy eyes, that's for sure.
Yeah Im quite surprised Tom Cruise was always so loved by alot of people. Good actor. But he seems incredibly vain and just...'plastic'. Fake as in unnaturql way.
what i love about that scene is that he doesn't take it personal (or keeps acting) when allen calls him a dork, but he's visibly upset when talking about tans
Because that's a sign of status and makes him look poor and inferior in a direct comparison. Same deal with the business cards. Whereas he doesn't ACTUALLY care what he thinks about him as a person only how his entire persona is perceived as superior
Great remark I also noticed. Not only that but Patrick wants to fit in throughout the whole movie and he says it too. He always tries to focus on fitting in and isn't able to it's frustrating for him when he hears such things even if it's such a minor detail. Healthy or wanting to be healthy people don't do that or to this extent that Patrick does they try to be themselves. There's people that fit in and try to be their own person. Patrick goes all out on just fitting in though.
Funny thing too is he's very happy to get the compliment that his fiancée has a great ass which just proves his only goal in life is status because he is most likely nihilistic.
Actually a really great thing to notice because it's the perfect definition of a psychopath, he does not care what this animal thinks of him, but damn, the animal has his own tanning bed and he does not? He goes to a salon like some regular chump
Hahaha same! I always used to replay it when I first watched this movie. And then the following facial expression when he says the "what a loser" comment.
Yeah at the begining "you shoul look into it" is the death proposal from paul. And after that the "loser patrick bateman" line is the signed certified death treatment. LMAO
@@davidklaus9133 yeah he mistook Bateman for another guy Marcus who looks like him when wearing glasses, which I think Paul should've noticed he isn't Marcus after a little while but he's just not paying attention i guess
Notice how it doesn’t visibly upset him when Allan attacks his character but he can’t keep up his mask when it turns out Paul Allan has a tanning bad while he doesn’t
@@XplicitTruth444 it wasn't just that. He'd been one upped (like with the business cards). Their shallow materialistic culture was all about that. A great tan you could get at a salon was a status symbol (nyc is cold and freezing and most can't tan there). But a personal tanning bed was an even better status symbol. Paul made a yuppie fool of him with that remark
@@milannikolic3371 William Riggan analysed in a 1981 study discernible types of unreliable narrators The Madman: a narrator who is either only experiencing mental defense mechanisms, such as (post-traumatic) dissociation and self-alienation, or severe mental illness, such as schizophrenia or paranoia. Examples include Barbara Covett in Notes on a Scandal, Charles Kinbote in Pale Fire, the unnamed protagonist of Edgar Allan Poe's The Tell-Tale Heart, and Patrick Bateman in American Psycho.
@@milannikolic3371 it’s pretty much confirmed that Paul allen never died, most of the movie is inside Patrick’s head, he’s having schizophrenic episodes the entire movie and it fades in and out of reality, at one point you can even see a pill bottle which is probably his meds that he’s not taking
@@Moon45607 everyone loves him not because he is a complex character, everyone loves him because he represents us, he is us, his pain is our pain, his hate is our hate, his life is our life
@@kridayarora22what? no! did you even saw the 2019 Joker film? it's a humorous joke Joaquin phoenix's Joker asks to Murray the comedian before killing him on stage by firing a gun.
Shows how good Christian Bale is as an actor, you can see the literal second Bateman switchs from proud that Paul also thinks his girlfriend is sexy to an expression that quickly morphs into a subtle subdued anger at being called a loser
The moving had great acting all around. They put a lot of detail into subtle facial expressions. I know that with Willem Defoe, they recorded multiple versions of his scenes where he'd act amicable, suspicious, or indifferent. Then they mixed and matched clips from the different versions to craft the exact tone they wanted. I love seeing people put a lot of passion into their work like that.
No, he only gets mad when he tells him about his personal tanning bed. As he said, there is no Patrick Bateman, he only cares about the person he portrays through his status and personal possessions. The only reason he decided to kill him in the first place is because of his business card.
when paul asked where cecilia was you can see the cogs turning in patricks head as he saw that question as an opportunity to see what paul thinks of evelyn and of himself
They seem like good friends, hopefully we'll get to see more of their wacky adventures as they grow older, such a strong friendship, and that Patrick Bateman sounds like a real handful
As some of you might notice, in the movie, colleagues oftenly mistake each other's name, just like Paul calling Patrick "Marcus" in this scene. That's actually a sign of how carefree they are, and how much they look, act, talk like each other, wearing the same expensive products; they are like a doll serie of the same factory.... this movie / book was really something ahead, a successful criticism of wrong modernism - if you put aside the 14 year old "sigma" boy community.
That tanning bed line killed him 😂😂😂 like “mfr I will lotion up with your blood, and soak my feet in your brain matter” - definitely Batemans inner thoughts
Fun fact the creator of the movie said she regrets the ending because now everyone thinks it was all in his head and that actually wasn't the case....He really did kill all those people and get away with it
Is that true? If it is, it makes absolutely no sense. He blows up a car with a couple of shots from a pistol, he confesses to all these crimes, and somehow everyone thinks or knows Paul is on vacation, except for Patrick who “killed” him
@@LegiamasC-OnTwitta could simply be a jab at how corrupt New York or whatever can be and people in his circle just want to keep things pushing but he just sees himself above them and lacks control
@@dylanvail5116 yeah that makes sense. She really did trip over herself with the ending then. I’d love to see a proper sequel (fuck American psycho 2) or even a remake to see how it could’ve ended
This convo memes aside is so relatable to having small talk with people at work who think they’re above you and have massive egos. They turn everything around to just talking about themselves and just 1up anything you say
One of the best scenes in the film. Once the words Patrick Bateman and Loser came out of Paul Allen’s mouth, Bateman knew it was the night to take care of Paul.
This is my favorite acting in any movie. The way he breaks down and conveys intense " on the edge" in the scene where he confesses on the phone call...is brilliant.
You ever wonder what if, he was appreciated? What if people game him praise. Would he have not done all those gruesome acts, just for the sole reason of not letting those ppl down as to not have their opinions of him to be changed.
I think this movie is interesting because you never know for some scenes if he actually says or does something or if he’s just imagining that he did it.
