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American Psycho isn't the simple, dark, clinical slasher film many assumed it was when it released back in 2000. It's fundamentally a social satire, and a comedy. A very dark comedy. But a comedy nonetheless. And no one understood this better than American Psycho writer/director Mary Harron and breakout lead Christian Bale. Today, we'll delve into the funnier and most satirical moments from American Psycho, hearing not just from Harron and Bale, but also Bret Easton Ellis, who wrote the original novel.
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@CinemaStix
@CinemaStix 11 месяцев назад
Fun Fact #2: American Psycho was shot by Andrzej Sekula, the same guy who did Pulp Fiction (and Reservoir Dogs). Which is why both movies have the same golden paint-y glow to them, if you look at them side by side.
@Sam-nl8ie
@Sam-nl8ie 11 месяцев назад
Ever thinking of covering Trainspotting and it’s sequel in this series - love your work
@illusionithink5976
@illusionithink5976 11 месяцев назад
@@Sam-nl8ie would love to see that too, especially the sequel for how great it actually ended up being despite all odds
@simperingham
@simperingham 11 месяцев назад
Oh that is interesting! I think I just assumed subconsciously that it was a 90s look.
@General_Maximus
@General_Maximus 11 месяцев назад
i cant unsee it now 🤯🤯🤯
@maarten452
@maarten452 11 месяцев назад
I thought quentin tarantino made pulp fiction and reservoir dogs.
@Valandar2
@Valandar2 11 месяцев назад
You would THINK that the business card scene, if ANYTHING, would give away the satire. It turns basically the most meaningless aspect of a businessman into a life or death stress trigger.
@actualturtle2421
@actualturtle2421 11 месяцев назад
It does. Only the absolute dumbest minority of people would have missed it. People don't take it seriously. The people you see online are pretending to take it seriously because it's funny.
@randomnobody8770
@randomnobody8770 11 месяцев назад
Is that a gram?
@adamhollander9487
@adamhollander9487 11 месяцев назад
Everyone knows it's a satire, but that's only because it touches on some true themes. Business card design was a big deal in the 80s and 90s, just like what shoes or watch or suit you wore were (and still are) a big deal to the people you dealt with in business. Corporate life doesn't come with a lot of creativity in how you present yourself to the world, so the little details matter.
@jozepedro27
@jozepedro27 11 месяцев назад
I bet people who were invested in the movie as straight, not satire, saw that scene like "ok, you *do* need attention to detail to become sucessful"
@Cos_Why_Not
@Cos_Why_Not 11 месяцев назад
@@jozepedro27 Nobody in the world has thought that. The people who take the movie "as straight" see the satire, and embrace it. It's funny to take it in unironically
@altEFG
@altEFG 11 месяцев назад
Fun Fact: in preparation for the role, Christian Bale read the script and memorized his lines.
@miriglith4293
@miriglith4293 11 месяцев назад
I read that in order to play the character of Patrick Bateman, he actually pretended to be him.
@JP-sm4cs
@JP-sm4cs 11 месяцев назад
True dedication
@stevecarter8810
@stevecarter8810 11 месяцев назад
​@@miriglith4293he did that on camera too, if you watch the movie you can see where it happens
@jocap3837
@jocap3837 11 месяцев назад
Truly on of the movies of all time
@noeldown1952
@noeldown1952 11 месяцев назад
Marlon Brando would like a word
@robdixson196
@robdixson196 9 месяцев назад
In the context of the early 80's "I have to return some video tapes" was actually a subtle flex. At the time VCR's and Betamaxes were still fairly expensive so just dropping the hint you had one meant you were with it and hip. The line is PERFECT for the character.
@Rampart.X
@Rampart.X 6 месяцев назад
It also reminds us that he has a lot of free time for an alpha yuppy.
@overtherenowaitthere
@overtherenowaitthere 5 месяцев назад
Those things were more expensive than modern video game consoles and were designed to match your expensive furniture. All that wood grain stuff, the cheaper ones (still like 700 bucks in 1980s dollars too!) were plastic and painted but I think it’s interesting how back then LOOKING expensive if you had a VCR was just as important as the function.
@robdixson196
@robdixson196 5 месяцев назад
@@overtherenowaitthere Yeah back then a VCR would be easily a months salary for a working class person. A gaming machine today 1-1.5 weeks.
@user-sl4hx8vs9w
@user-sl4hx8vs9w 5 месяцев назад
Imagine flexing going to a Redbox these days 😂
@flyer3455
@flyer3455 5 месяцев назад
Our old VCR from the late eighties weighed like 25 lbs. Ridiculous!
@thebreakfastmenu
@thebreakfastmenu 10 месяцев назад
My favorite thing about this movie is literally everyone in the P&P office mistakes everyone for someone else because they're all too full of themselves to get to know anyone they work with, and everyone who is mistaken for someone else just rolls with it until the end, even Patrick's lawyer doesn't even know who he is. Maybe Patrick killed someone he THOUGHT was Paul Allen. Maybe he killed Paul and the lawyer had dinner with someone he thought was Paul Allen. Maybe none of it happened. There's so many ways to watch this movie.
@jneilson7568
@jneilson7568 10 месяцев назад
Willem DeFie played the interview at least three ways and they mixed up the takes, it's brilliant.
@dbrooke3629
@dbrooke3629 5 месяцев назад
Okay this makes so much more sense. I never understood that before
@glarcier4398
@glarcier4398 5 месяцев назад
maybe bateman is in fact allen
@ConnieLynchitzWhoElse
@ConnieLynchitzWhoElse 4 месяца назад
congratulations for understanding the key point of the film.
@thebreakfastmenu
@thebreakfastmenu 4 месяца назад
@@ConnieLynchitzWhoElse I'm pointing out what my favorite thing about the film is. Not whether or not it's obvious to the audience. Merry Christmas.
@JBoxy7
@JBoxy7 11 месяцев назад
This movie is hilarious. "Patrick is that you?" "No louis, its not me, youre mistaken."
@Freakazoid12345
@Freakazoid12345 11 месяцев назад
Lol, the movie is so funny. Anyway, gotta go... ... return some video tapes.
@Melsharpe95
@Melsharpe95 11 месяцев назад
@@Freakazoid12345 A lot of people won't get that video rental stores back in the Eighties would charge you up the ass if you returned tapes late. Places like Blockbuster hoped you'd return them late so they could charge you the whole fucking rental fee again. So the whole "have to return some video tapes" really was a thing for us back then. Superb satire.
@Freakazoid12345
@Freakazoid12345 11 месяцев назад
@@Melsharpe95 I hung out with a guy dude from a local Hollywood video (like a Blockbuster, not in Hollywood). He listened to Madonna and had a Chihuahua. He hit on me and I said I was straight and to get back at me he kept the tapes I returned so I had to pay for replacing them. This was the early 2000's and I'm sure you can guess how I felt about that and perhaps even what somebody might call somebody like him who does something like that.
@neillynch_ecocidologist
@neillynch_ecocidologist 11 месяцев назад
@@Melsharpe95 Absolutely love the movie and whilst I'm 51 yrs old (today! :D ), I don't think I've ever personally paid for a video store membership / film hire. So the last bit of the jigsaw makes sense, now. Thanks.
@Melsharpe95
@Melsharpe95 11 месяцев назад
@@neillynch_ecocidologist Happy birthday :)
@fideliocgn
@fideliocgn 11 месяцев назад
So rare to see a book author that happy with the film version of his book.
@amorphousblob
@amorphousblob 11 месяцев назад
Yeah they seem to be far and few between. Another one is Chuck Palahniuk, who was happy with the film version of Fight Club iirc.
@cWjkL8ysxOkrH66
@cWjkL8ysxOkrH66 11 месяцев назад
@@amorphousblob chuck palahniuk you mean
@alexarias5717
@alexarias5717 11 месяцев назад
Until he made comments that the movie would have been better if directed by a man 🙄🙄
@Ten_Thousand_Locusts
@Ten_Thousand_Locusts 11 месяцев назад
​@@amorphousblobwtf are you on about? David Fincher didn't write Fight Club, he directed it.
@amorphousblob
@amorphousblob 11 месяцев назад
@@Ten_Thousand_Locusts It was a half-asleep mistake lmao, christ. Relax.
@michaelcollins5819
@michaelcollins5819 2 месяца назад
“Although I have a slightly better haircut” Everything about that line is pure chefs kiss
@existingperson
@existingperson 10 месяцев назад
It's really funny how people like to say Patrick Bateman is a "sigma male" while the purpose of his character is to make fun of that stuff
@goldenarmour7975
@goldenarmour7975 3 месяца назад
I like to say he's a "sigma male" and honestly it's purely because it's funny. The scene where he arranges his hair with the menu is just too hilarious.
@alexandermccabe556
@alexandermccabe556 3 месяца назад
its as if the people saying that are joking and get the character perfectly
@mystic_mimi21
@mystic_mimi21 3 месяца назад
It’s the same with all the ‘sigma male’ wannabes. Take Tommy Shelby , he ends up alone and unloved by those he loves. Yet pathetic men aspire to him. Same with Patrick. It’s because they hate women and themselves. They want to be desired by other men, validated by other men, hence why they replicate these men that most women don’t like. Look at Mr Darcy a pretty much universally love male character, yet no men aspire to him (or very few).
@mr.dirtydan3338
@mr.dirtydan3338 3 месяца назад
​@@alexandermccabe556sure
@NoNameAtAll2
@NoNameAtAll2 3 месяца назад
sigma male **is** a satire satire of alpha-beta-omega stuff from false wolf pack structure
@legoqueen2445
@legoqueen2445 11 месяцев назад
For years I tried to use the 'I need to return some videos' line as often as I could. Now that video shops don't really exist anymore, I think its even more important to work that line into every day situations.
@mmaranta785
@mmaranta785 11 месяцев назад
I’m going to do that too!
@Towhomitmayconcern9293
@Towhomitmayconcern9293 11 месяцев назад
I can only see people using it ironically to simply quote the movie and not actually genuinely to get out of social situation. I guess you could get out of social situation and quote the movie at the same time, but not use it as a genuine line.
@bobhoskins6475
@bobhoskins6475 11 месяцев назад
Just add "to Redbox" lol
@mousepumpkin7564
@mousepumpkin7564 11 месяцев назад
😂 lmao
@csabagalambos1461
@csabagalambos1461 10 месяцев назад
I usually just say "I gotta go, I've got a ton of excuses to make up"
@christopherroa9781
@christopherroa9781 11 месяцев назад
Ive never seen the movie, but i find it absolutely hilarious that they ALL misspell "Acquisitions" on their business cards
@wafflepoet5437
@wafflepoet5437 11 месяцев назад
Brilliant catch!
@Annatar_Lord_of_Gifts
@Annatar_Lord_of_Gifts 11 месяцев назад
Watch the movie!
@Lovuniate
@Lovuniate 11 месяцев назад
@@wafflepoet5437 brilliant catch??? he literally says it in the video what are you on about
@scottfitzpatrick1939
@scottfitzpatrick1939 11 месяцев назад
Never notice that hhaha nice easter egg
@aksy1430555
@aksy1430555 11 месяцев назад
"I'm into murders and executions" "You like it? Cuz a lot of guys I know don't like being in mergers and acquisitions" You should really give the movie a shot! It is too good to miss!
@EatAtJoes
@EatAtJoes 9 месяцев назад
I remember watching this, as a teen, not realizing it was a comedy until the scene with the chainsaw, where I said, "This is stupid. Someone would hear that. How does no one care?" And that was immediately followed by "Oh my God, this entire movie is satire." Blew my mind as I watched him make that freaked-out phone call.
@carlkligerman1981
@carlkligerman1981 9 месяцев назад
I saw this during its initial theatrical release. Maybe it’s Australian audiences (we have a dark sense of humour) but the cinema I was in laughed out loud every time Bateman started an album review, so I think in Melbourne in the late 90s we all got the joke. Easton Ellis’s “Informers” is a far darker book, in my opinion, although the copy of Psycho I bought (the same you show during this video essay) had to be wrapped with an R rating on it in bookshops.
@LeahIsHereNow
@LeahIsHereNow 7 месяцев назад
Leave it to Americans to think a satire about a sad, pathetic, run-of-the-mill malignant narcissist is something they should take seriously because they aspire to be like the antagonist. They think the antagonist is the protagonist. Basically America is fucked. Thanks for reading. 😂
@nobody48803
@nobody48803 5 месяцев назад
I mean its objectively hilarious that someone would consistently review albums in a robotic tone at extremely bizarre times
@gabbleratchet1890
@gabbleratchet1890 5 месяцев назад
This video is overstating things a bit. I saw it in the theater when it was released and the audience was laughing and clearly understood the satire,
@peterfconley
@peterfconley 11 месяцев назад
I remember reading the book, finding it horrifying, and then like a week after finishing it, going, “Ohhhh, it’s a satire!” I was young.
@red2977
@red2977 11 месяцев назад
I read the book when I was a teen. I had read a bunch of serial killer books and horror books etc and this was the one book I had to put down and take a break from because some of the sections were soo disturbing. Satire or not the violence was extreme and I still remember the descriptions to this day of the scotch sharpening his reflexes
@VoxVeritasXXX
@VoxVeritasXXX 11 месяцев назад
What I find most hilarious is all the so called "intellectuals" on the internet who actually believe that anyone, anywhere, doesn't understand that this movie is blatant and obvious satire and are constantly patting each other on the back for "getting it". I heretofore challenge any of you "enlightened academics" to provide concrete proof of existence pertaining to these imaginary, non-existent, ignoramus straw-men that you have all unified together to pretentiously mock in your circle jerk of condensation...
@zoelester7379
@zoelester7379 11 месяцев назад
@@red2977 love the part where he pulls a girl’s neck inside out
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 11 месяцев назад
Can your point to what's satirical about the bit where he puts cheese and rats into a woman's pussy and then cuts her in half with a chainsaw
@howard5992
@howard5992 11 месяцев назад
@@red2977 Thank you for your comment. Extreme violence and misogyny and greed and anger and obsessive self-involvement is simply pathological. Saying it is satire is almost meaningless.
@folarinosibodu
@folarinosibodu 11 месяцев назад
I never noticed they all misspelled Acquisitions on their business cards.
@-Scrapper-
@-Scrapper- 11 месяцев назад
one of them did. the rest copied him.
@Dayvit78
@Dayvit78 11 месяцев назад
Which is ironic since the whole scene was about attention to the details of the cards
@Andy-ub3ub
@Andy-ub3ub 11 месяцев назад
Or bateman didnt know how to spell acquisitions, and the whole thing is made up on his mind.🙄
@bunyann90
@bunyann90 11 месяцев назад
Folarin Osibodu BSc BSc MSc PSM PSPO do u introduce urself as this in person, must take a while :D
@notahotshot
@notahotshot 11 месяцев назад
​@@bunyann90 I wonder if he pronounces it bisk bisk pissim pisspoo
@jackdaniels2905
@jackdaniels2905 10 месяцев назад
My wife and I watched this in the theater when it came out. I remember laughing at the absurdity and sarcasm but I also remember the audience being so silent so our laughing really stood out. I guess the sarcasm wasn't very obvious. Still this movie has been one of my favorites all these years.
@anjar.2910
@anjar.2910 8 месяцев назад
You kinda have to watch it a second time to really get into the comedy, especially if you watch it the first time thinking it's gonna be a scary thriller lol
@madislandguy
@madislandguy 7 месяцев назад
I saw the movie with some friends and I was the only one laughing my ass off. I kind of questioned myself about that afterwards and determined I got the movie and they didn't.
@jackdaniels2905
@jackdaniels2905 7 месяцев назад
@@madislandguy I remember laughing at the card scene in particular. For years after I'd make the same joke whenever someone handed me a business card.
@6Sparx9
@6Sparx9 7 месяцев назад
sometimes you have to be primed by someone else that it is a comedy to even look for such cues.
@lasurfette7830
@lasurfette7830 5 месяцев назад
The kitten scene had me gasping for air.
@hazonku
@hazonku 6 месяцев назад
I still say, "I have to return some video tapes." Whenever I exit conversations with several strangers at parties. It's a hilarious way to exit because there'll almost always be one person who immediately remembers the line & starts laughing, by the time they've awkwardly explained it to the rest a couple more people might remember and laugh too, everyone else is just baffled, and you've made a fairly memorable exit. They say first impressions are most important but that exit has made impressions that lasted literally years.
@youngnoodle1963
@youngnoodle1963 3 месяца назад
I don't think this works as well as you think it does
@chaosbringer-planeteater
@chaosbringer-planeteater 23 дня назад
@@youngnoodle1963right 😭
@dylanmurtagh666
@dylanmurtagh666 14 дней назад
💪😅😅💪​@@youngnoodle1963
@cosmicslacker
@cosmicslacker 11 месяцев назад
The fact there are modern boys that look up to him prove the exact point of the movie
@oliviabb73849
@oliviabb73849 7 месяцев назад
Oh buddy, yes.
@ToxicBastard
@ToxicBastard 4 месяца назад
The point of the movie is that teenagers are stupid and don't understand satire? Someone didn't understand the film...
@shesapea
@shesapea 3 месяца назад
@@ToxicBastarduh ya
@garrgravarr
@garrgravarr 2 месяца назад
​@@ToxicBastardYeah, nailed it buddy. Good job.
@PropaneWP
@PropaneWP 2 месяца назад
They're the same bunch of superficial people who don't understand that Warhammer 40k at its core is a satire on fascism. It flies right over their head. Instead they worship all the idiocy that these works make fun of.
@Dilopho
@Dilopho 11 месяцев назад
the fact that he might not even have killed paul allen and might have killed the wrong guy makes the whole thing so much better. he's no different to his peers.
@simonster-9094
@simonster-9094 11 месяцев назад
My interpretation of it was that he actually DID kill Paul Allen but his co-worker who said he had lunch with Allen after Bateman supposedly killed him, thought he was Paul Allen, because they all seem the same and interchangeable in the eyes of the Wall Streeters.
@Dilopho
@Dilopho 11 месяцев назад
@@simonster-9094 it's not quite as funny as bateman killing the wrong guy but it's just as nightmarish. Such a violent action and noone even cares. He'll never get the punishment he craves.
@ForeverGotShorter
@ForeverGotShorter 11 месяцев назад
Oh, I never thought of it like that! I just assumed it was the other guy who mistook someone else for Paul Allen. But honestly your interpretation of it makes the whole thing a lot funnier.
@Donnerbalken28
@Donnerbalken28 11 месяцев назад
@@simonster-9094 My interpretation of it was also that he did kill Paul Allen, but everyone subtly tells him that they know, don't care and will cover for him indefinitely, despite Bateman's most desperate desire being caught out. The psychopathic part of Bateman wants to break out of the endless yuppie Hamster Wheel, so he indulges in shocking acts of hyperviolence in the hopes someone might actually recognize that there is indeed some semblence of a human being under all those designer clothes, expensive perfume and flawless skin care. Instead he is told, in a rather threatening tone, more overtly so in the movie, that Paul Allen is still alive. The way Allens lawyer acted the scene was more of a "I know you did, now shut up before you get into trouble", followed by the "This is not an exit" sign. This soulless consumerism is Batemans personal purgatory, and nothing he deems deems acceptable to do will offer him an escape. He could of course reject his ways of a materialistic yuppie and nouveau riche businessman who got into his position via napotism alone (his father is a close friend of the CEO of the bank he works at iirc) but that is a scary prospect, because above all, he values his status, hence why the impoverished are the primary targets of his aggression.
@SerfsUp1848
@SerfsUp1848 10 месяцев назад
Am I wrong for taking the title literally and believing all the murders were just in his head? My interpretation was he's so pathetic and insane that he just makes up these scenarios to deal with his mondaine existence
@yvc9
@yvc9 10 месяцев назад
I laughed out loud at several passages of the book, notably when he feeds his date a chocolate covered urinal cake. She then complained that it was "so minty" i got some weird looks in the bus.
@jneilson7568
@jneilson7568 10 месяцев назад
Oddly that's the scene that stuck with me the most, it was so petty and weird.
@ToxicBastard
@ToxicBastard 4 месяца назад
People on busses hate to see a fella happy.
@staudinga
@staudinga 27 дней назад
Speaking of reading on the bus, I almost fainted reading one of the more brutal parts of it while riding the bus. Had to half lie down in my seat until I was no longer white as a corpse, and was barely able to get up and walk when we arrived at my stop.
@alecazadi-hocking8381
@alecazadi-hocking8381 4 месяца назад
He totally killed people, maybe not the cops or the old lady, but a lot of people and the fact that he might’ve mistaken some for others and that no one notices who’s missing is the ultimate punchline to the ultimate joke about yuppie culture that is this novel and its film adaptation. Also, the author made a “sequel” that he published online that mentions the “disappearance of Paul Allen” with Patrick stating that even years later no one suspects and that he’s playing golf with the now Chief Kimball later that day.
@Taru1blm
@Taru1blm 3 месяца назад
Laws of Attraction is a storyline based on Bateman's brother, but you probably already knew that.
@armandogonzales2960
@armandogonzales2960 11 месяцев назад
I love the artistic romance between the author and the director. Ellis even going so far as to say Harron's work clarifies aspects of the book. The card scene is probably my favorite.
@askmeaboutsugma
@askmeaboutsugma 11 месяцев назад
And nowadays we get films based on novels that are rushed out and delete important scenes entirely or misinterpret important themes of the book. Even worse, ones where production disregard the author's opinions or don't consult the author whatsoever.
@goodial
@goodial 11 месяцев назад
@@askmeaboutsugma yeah that's nothing new ...
@Diwasho
@Diwasho 11 месяцев назад
@@askmeaboutsugma We just got a serviceable adaptation of Dune for the first time since the books debuted half a century ago. Bad and good adaptations always existed, it's just the bad ones are always prevalent.
@askmeaboutsugma
@askmeaboutsugma 11 месяцев назад
@@goodial Far more prevalent now than it was two decades ago. It could just be that movies based on books get made much more often than they did previously, so the data is just exacerbated.
@lynnzick9805
@lynnzick9805 10 месяцев назад
The card scene is mine, also but it stems from the fact there were kids in my high school at the time who had already been passing out their business cards with fake occupations on it trying to impress students, more specifically the girls, I guess. Then I love the video tape return excuse to not want to spend time with the person.
@rogersmith9535
@rogersmith9535 11 месяцев назад
It is ironic how the perfect satire of alpha male culture became a symbol of it for so many people. Edit: Look at the replies at your own risk. You have been warned.
@hulking_presence
@hulking_presence 11 месяцев назад
💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@janus3555
@janus3555 11 месяцев назад
Because we don't care. Those who want this to be a reflection or satire as a form of criticism or ridicule fail to understand that many of us don't agree with their conclusion. Their almost Dunning-Kruger like affect regarding their judgement is nothing more than an opinion. One we don't share. This is also the case with Starship Troopers, albeit in a different position (We absolutely agree with what Michael Ironsides tells the students in the classroom lesson). Those who hold those movies as an allegory seem to be in a false sense of moral superiority when it simply shows that they don't understand the purposes and even the nuances of humanity. Their judgement of excesses are hypocritical as the same could be said about them from much of the 3rd world. Their position in this criticism often comes from a place of envy. Their desire for those lesser than them to be bolstered and they to be lauded as saviors while criticizing their betters. It's a form of super-ego of the mundane. And that's ultimately it. Envy being the ultimate failing of humanity suffered by all and the purpose for much of everything that exists today when you ultimately break it down. Those who champion the writing of American Psycho as a criticism are themselves doing so because of their own envy or even inferiority complex. The psychological door swings both ways. It always has. This is why Gen Z and looks to be Gen Alpha have used this movie and many like it as a primer. Often through memes and the subtle nuances of phrases in their lexicon. And that's neither a good or a bad thing.
@idothisforfun3005
@idothisforfun3005 11 месяцев назад
American Psycho is a Litmus test. If you actually think Batemen is "cool"* and not the sniveling loser that he is; you don't get the message.
@VogtTD
@VogtTD 11 месяцев назад
@@janus3555 Are you for real? LMAO. Thanks for exposing yourself as a clown and a horrible person.
@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494
@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 11 месяцев назад
@@janus3555 You're really lambasting the creators of both book and film for "not getting it", huh? Boy, do I have some stuff to tell you about "The Matrix"...
@p4ngolin
@p4ngolin 5 месяцев назад
i remember when I first saw it, my friend showed it to me and was really anticipating my reaction. I was in stitches, and he was so confused as to why. he did not think the movie was funny. he thought patrick bateman was super charismatic. This movie has become one of my red flag tools (among other movies)
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, it's sad how many people focus on the personas that _they_ want to be, rather than what the characters _do._
@ilsevdg1194
@ilsevdg1194 18 дней назад
Indeed! For me too! The movie is insanely clever at that. But the first requirement is that you see through the shininess of the objects in the film (and in life). That one, you have to do yourself.
@CelloMaster2000
@CelloMaster2000 14 дней назад
I’ll take “Things that didn’t happen” for 400, Alex
@p4ngolin
@p4ngolin 14 дней назад
@@CelloMaster2000 ok
@MrAdrienmartinez
@MrAdrienmartinez 6 месяцев назад
The misspelling of the word "Acquisition" on their business cards is elegant, subtle and enormously brilliant. So funny. Antonia Bird's "Ravenous" c.1999 is my second favorite film.
@_The_Archive_
@_The_Archive_ 11 месяцев назад
Fun Fact: During production, Christian Bale followed the morning routine that his character Patrick Bateman describes toward the beginning of the film.
@CinemaStix
@CinemaStix 11 месяцев назад
Much healthier than his daily routines during The Machinist…
@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494
@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 11 месяцев назад
@@CinemaStix Yep. A tin of tuna, an apple and endless cups of black coffee (water also included) per day - and ONLY that per day - will do that to ya. I honestly don't know how he even found the energy to perform 😕
@eyeamstrongest
@eyeamstrongest 11 месяцев назад
@@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 the black coffee
@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494
@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 11 месяцев назад
@@eyeamstrongest lol fair enough
@memegazer
@memegazer 11 месяцев назад
Saw the director in an interview and she said Bale could break out in a sweat on command during filming.
@KolMan2000
@KolMan2000 11 месяцев назад
The fact that many of the criticisms were “the characters did these things I didn’t like” and the response is obviously “yeah, you’re supposed to not like it. You’re supposed to be unsettled or disturbed by it. The characters are supposed to be disturbed”
@neglectfulsausage7689
@neglectfulsausage7689 11 месяцев назад
I dunno, I thought the discussion on women and perosnality vs looks was spot on and funny. A good commentary on how owmne are valued. Their lives as men is a good commentary on how men are valued by women.
@mellinghedd267
@mellinghedd267 11 месяцев назад
“The characters in this work are [insert traits I don’t like/make me uncomfortable] and because of that I don’t want to consume that work”: Perfectly reasonable! critical of the media you consume! “The characters in this work are [insert traits I don’t like/make me uncomfortable] and because of that it is a bad work and the creators support those same traits”: braindead! you are a moron!
@underarmbowlingincidentof1981
@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 11 месяцев назад
People who critisize like that are scary. But there is something even worse. People who like a movie like American Psycho because they like what the characters do.
@mightymoeish
@mightymoeish 11 месяцев назад
There are so many different characters throughout all sorts of media people like through the screen, but wouldn't like in real life. Most critically acclaimed shows and movies are about criminals and degenerates. Godfather, Scarface, Shawshank, The Dark Knight, Breaking Bad, Sopranos, The Wire. Heros, anti-heroes, villains. Humans are able to separate people from characters, no matter how engaging.
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 11 месяцев назад
It's actually too toned down, the sharp edges filed down
@marshallcrane5447
@marshallcrane5447 10 месяцев назад
I own the book and it's some of the funniest most poignant satire. Some of the dialogue-heavy chapters are laugh out loud funny. So well written unlike anything else but I do skip the extended violent parts upon rereading since they are hard to stomach. All the "yuppies" are always confusing each other for someone else because they dress and look the same. Patrick's nemesis is Dorsia because its the only place he can't get a reservation. He's on the verge of a mental breakdown every time he thinks he might have to sit at an average table location within a restaurant. There's a chapter where Bono is on stage at a concert and telepathically communicates that he recognizes Patrick for what he is and that he's also a fellow psychopath. The nightclubs in New York have absurd names and there is always a newer more exclusive one opening up. At points Patrick's inner dialogue devolves into listing random luxury items because is obsessed with obtaining the ultimate luxury lifestyle. One of the most successful movie adaptations of a book in look and feel. Perfectly cast. Plenty of parts that I wish were included in the movie but you can't include them all.
@William-the-Guy
@William-the-Guy 9 месяцев назад
The best interpretation I've ever heard of that is that it's actually a satire of the entire 80s. The world around Bateman is so fake and corrupt and meaningless, that he could have plausibly gone on a murder spree, and no one would have cared. At the end, even HE is not sure if the murders really happened, because it is just as believable that everyone around him ignored the murders and covered them up. They are all that soulless. So it's not just him that the movie is commenting on, rather it's the world he exists in.
@gabbleratchet1890
@gabbleratchet1890 5 месяцев назад
That’s not an interpretation, that’s the literal plot of the book.
@William-the-Guy
@William-the-Guy 5 месяцев назад
@@gabbleratchet1890 I am not sure you understand what the word "interpretation" means...
@comfykeegs
@comfykeegs 11 месяцев назад
I’m literally always telling people it is deceptively one of the funniest scripts ever written. The more watches the more defined the bits become
@BrandonToy
@BrandonToy 11 месяцев назад
It really is hilarious. I watched it with my wife when we were dating and she did NOT get it at all. I was laughing my ass off, which she found disturbing. 😂😂😂
@VoxVeritasXXX
@VoxVeritasXXX 11 месяцев назад
What I find most hilarious is all the so called "intellectuals" on the internet who actually believe that anyone, anywhere, doesn't understand that this movie is blatant and obvious satire and are constantly patting each other on the back for "getting it". I heretofore challenge any of you "enlightened academics" to provide concrete proof of existence pertaining to these imaginary, non-existent, ignoramus straw-men that you have all unified together to pretentiously mock in your circle jerk of condensation...
@bengreen2200
@bengreen2200 11 месяцев назад
​@@BrandonToy glad I'm not the only one this happened to 😂
@DroolingLizard
@DroolingLizard 11 месяцев назад
​@@bengreen2200happened to me too, I had to play it down lest she'd think I was a psycho myself
@urbz6712
@urbz6712 11 месяцев назад
feed me the cat
@Anikthias
@Anikthias 11 месяцев назад
Its crazy how spot on this movie nails the yuppie culture and personalities. I have friends in finance and visiting them in the city was like stepping into this film, even in 2023. It makes the movie all the more hilarious, and terrifying, whenever i rewatch it
@chrisel4349
@chrisel4349 11 месяцев назад
They actually worship this character. Especially the young ones just starting out…they want to be just like him. They don’t see how flawed and ridiculous he is.
@silverblue73
@silverblue73 11 месяцев назад
@@chrisel4349 In another interview Bale speaks about how these people actually scared him and they didn't understand irony
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 11 месяцев назад
Not really yuppie culture though. The first letter of that word stands for 'young'. In my experience the people this movie ridicules a breed of people employed in finance or property development typically aged 45 and up, with a majority being 55 and up. Source: I work in something that facilitates both industries and allows them to pretend they know f*ckall. Had my fair share of loud disagreements because my normal behaviour (including, yes, having a business card) offended their sense of super-importantess. The whole swinging chainsaws at eachother is exagerated though, they typically prefer flashy cars as weapons, that and empty threats.
@Anikthias
@Anikthias 11 месяцев назад
@@nvelsen1975 it's both; the guys I've met have all been
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan 11 месяцев назад
@@silverblue73 Everyone understands, nobody cares.
@bmo14lax
@bmo14lax 4 месяца назад
You did a great job picking up the absurdity aspect of this character and the clips you provided were great examples. the restaurant menu one that's funny, I missed that one.
@modernmusty
@modernmusty 2 месяца назад
8:07 "They all misspelled 'Acquisitions' on their business cards" I never caught that. I've watched this film so many times and that's a detail I missed every time. Nice catch!
@TWOxTONE_773
@TWOxTONE_773 11 месяцев назад
“Hey Hamilton. Have a holly jolly Christmas” The best delivery in the movie.
@jakejoseph5534
@jakejoseph5534 11 месяцев назад
I like the line that’s like “…which really gives the songs …a BIG boost!”
@tomcruze7898
@tomcruze7898 7 месяцев назад
I say it every year.
@Greg-om2hb
@Greg-om2hb 11 месяцев назад
8:23 “Marcus and I even go to the same barber … although I have a slightly better hair cut.” My favorite line in the book. And I never tire of the Huey Lewis scene.
@Knokkelman
@Knokkelman 19 дней назад
Btw I think the fact that the real Huey Lewis did a parody of this scene with Weird Al where he talks about the movie is probably the greatest achievement in the history of meta humor, just WOW!
@JRAnimationStudios
@JRAnimationStudios 11 месяцев назад
This is a really good video, I keep coming back to it!
@lovemcurvy3126
@lovemcurvy3126 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much for dissecting exactly what this movie conveys.
@ronmackinnon9374
@ronmackinnon9374 11 месяцев назад
I love the part when he tells his secretary, Chloe Sevigny's character, 'I think if you stay, you might get hurt.' And she interprets that one way, but the audience knows he means it in a completely different way than the one she thinks.
@Jargonloster
@Jargonloster 7 месяцев назад
That's called dramatic irony.
@LordAus123
@LordAus123 6 месяцев назад
@@Jargonlosterright, since it’s ironic because Chloe is acting like someone she’s really not but yet doesn’t tell us she isn’t really that person and it’s dramatic because it’s in a theatrical production intended to be viewed by an audience - that Chloe and Christian can’t even see!
@MrAdrienmartinez
@MrAdrienmartinez 6 месяцев назад
"...No. I guess not, I don't want to get bruised."
@StoolCoiler
@StoolCoiler 6 месяцев назад
@@LordAus123 You are referring to irony. Dramatic irony is when the audience knows something the character doesn’t. In this example we know that Bateman would hurt her literally (with an axe) but she interprets it as getting emotionally hurt.
@milhousevanhoutan9235
@milhousevanhoutan9235 6 дней назад
I still grapple with the "why" of that decision having read the book and seen the movie. One part of me thinks he realizes that she's playing a part and ultimately is not like him or the rest of his victims. Therefore she is NOT anonymous and interchangeable. That part I'm solid on. Why he decides to let her go I can't decide between 'So he decides to let her go because he knows she'll be missed and he's not so deep into psychosis to have lost his sense of self preservation' and 'Because she represents the lifestyle he yearns for, and the opposite of the one he wants to break free of she doesn't trigger the same rage and hate his victims do.'
@doro626
@doro626 11 месяцев назад
I loved how all the restaurants had these ridiculous permanent menus with basically three items on them to eat.
@LeahIsHereNow
@LeahIsHereNow 7 месяцев назад
And one is peanut butter soup with smoked duck and mashed squash. 😂
@shraka
@shraka 7 месяцев назад
Wanky restaurants be like that.
@mrtrolly4184
@mrtrolly4184 6 месяцев назад
I'm me I like mcdonadld and you can get all items z on yhe menu because its a fast food place and they are like simple burgers and etc cetera
@liquiddevil7396
@liquiddevil7396 5 месяцев назад
Yeah at least in the book it was a real restaurant in Soho. Balthazar. I remember in the ‘90’s the cheapest thing they had on the menu (of maybe 8 items) was a “salad” that came on a saucer for $14 that was three leaves of spinach and 2 halves of a hard boiled egg. The kind of place you intentionally don’t eat at out of principle. For him to order a lobster as an appetizer followed by a lobster for the main course and not even touch them just because his brother was paying was such a hilarious dick move.
@HealthandExercise-ht1zl
@HealthandExercise-ht1zl 4 месяца назад
All menus are permanent. You order new ones when you change them.
@user-zm7xk6po3n
@user-zm7xk6po3n 3 месяца назад
I rarely watch a video through to finish. Very good!
@daredevilcammo
@daredevilcammo 9 месяцев назад
Thought I'd hate this video, but damn sat through it all, you're killing it majorkill!
@ronfroehlich4697
@ronfroehlich4697 11 месяцев назад
I worked at a country club for many years in the 90's and observed that a lot of the men there exhibited a cartoonish obsession with status and pathological phoniness. When I saw this movie it really reminded of those people. The businesses card scene was exactly how imagined those people would think.
@inscrutianaII
@inscrutianaII 9 месяцев назад
I had the hardest time in the theater because it reminded me so much of the culture I'd run 3000 miles from. It felt like an invasion.
@omg9261
@omg9261 7 месяцев назад
I don't think that's some typical "rich" culture there though. I think that's just some narcissism and toxic masculinity. I used to go to a carate class for a year and the way men behaved was pretty similar. The only difference they were measuring not the business cards, but the number of pull ups or push ups they were able to do. And also their skills at throwing others at the floor. That's just masculine insecurity and machismo. And they were not rich, just normal middle class. And it was not 1980-2000, it was 2022. And we are not americans, we are from Eastern Europe. That's just some universal behaviour.
@6Sparx9
@6Sparx9 7 месяцев назад
That's how satire works :) reminds you of stuff even if it is completely exaggerated.
@ronfroehlich4697
@ronfroehlich4697 6 месяцев назад
@@el060248 No, I actually witnessed it, even their obsession with status was phony, (which is what made it cartoonish). It was a bizarre subculture, the business card scene portrays it. I liked some of those men, most of them treated me well and weren't bad people. Most of the men at the country club were not hyper phony and I liked most of them, too. Says a lot about you that you had a strong enough emotional reaction to a RU-vid comment about pathological phoniness that you found it necessary to leave an insulting reply to it.
@12ealDealOfficial
@12ealDealOfficial 6 месяцев назад
And they don't all look and dress like Bateman. There is a kind clique-based hierarchy that manifests itself in various ways depending on the region. Silicon Valley white collar professionals have an entirely different style than the country tycoons and the city-expat nerds in IT I interact with. There is a tendency towards electric cars, bland/ muted colored clothing, half-framed glasses, Patagonia, and a consumptive- terminally online appearance. The tycoons are weightlifters with pretty wives, large American trucks, love of the outdoors and martial disciplines, etc. The two groups need each other but interact very little, and their views on the power of money and the lack of genuine, conscious love of humanity and the mundane are identical.
@lisaleone2296
@lisaleone2296 11 месяцев назад
I was attending a private liberal arts college in 1991, and one of the English classes was reading the book. The rich girls in the class just thought it was gratuitous violence. The rich boys took away that you could get away with anything if you were rich and good looking. I was a poor scholarship student. My takeaway was that Bateman had everything a young man could want, and it could never be enough, because his greed was all-consuming. The best line in the book/movie is "That's a very fine Chardonnay you're not drinking." He recognized that the wine was good, but he didn't want the wine, he wanted the other people to acknowledge his good taste. The fact they disgusted him and he planned on killing them didn't change his overwhelming need of their admiration.
@baggyjeans45
@baggyjeans45 11 месяцев назад
Oh so you were basically Richard from TSH 😅😊
@memyselfandi8544
@memyselfandi8544 10 месяцев назад
The question you all have but cannot imagine an answer to is WHO is this? A real person? A criminal aberration? An evil corporation? What is it? These are Devil worshippers. Our permanent ruling class. These are the people that run everything.
@johnnysake8052
@johnnysake8052 10 месяцев назад
@@aceman67HDA haha right, they both pulled out themes from the book, one more deep than the other based on who you ask
@qr6QRbMBG6hjGpZhnWqG
@qr6QRbMBG6hjGpZhnWqG 10 месяцев назад
@@aceman67HDA The rich girls...also right.
@Menstral
@Menstral 10 месяцев назад
Whiny woman victim mentality
@OllieJamesFoster
@OllieJamesFoster 9 месяцев назад
I think I commented the same thing on one of your videos quite a while back, but man, I love your editing and narration style! So good
@DaveKovalComedy
@DaveKovalComedy 7 месяцев назад
I LOVE that you incorporated the Funny Or Die parody into this
@vishnu2407
@vishnu2407 11 месяцев назад
00:47 holy shit, Bale was so in character that he's speaking in an American accent
@kerik6380
@kerik6380 11 месяцев назад
Bale, and many other British actors, keep their fake accents out of character during production as to not "lose" it.
@dirkdiggler.
@dirkdiggler. 11 месяцев назад
"I dont drop character till the dvd commentary"
@Freakazoid12345
@Freakazoid12345 11 месяцев назад
It's much easier to maintain an accent than switch back and fourth. I lived in Germany as a kid and I'll talk differently when speaking to other people after a while because my accent isn't 100% natural and I don't want to be called a nazi or get weird looks from people.
@saulhernandez320
@saulhernandez320 11 месяцев назад
He was also speaking in the same cadence as Batemen he's a method actor
@mayankbisht7691
@mayankbisht7691 11 месяцев назад
​@@dirkdiggler. 😂
@davidswanson5669
@davidswanson5669 11 месяцев назад
I know the business card scene is the most iconic from the film, and has been memed to death, but it really does deliver every time.
@fododude
@fododude 11 месяцев назад
Fun Fact: When the novel was written, there were no "memes" and people rarely used the word "iconic."
@jurassicclassic6543
@jurassicclassic6543 11 месяцев назад
​@@fododudethat's actually just false
@fododude
@fododude 11 месяцев назад
@@jurassicclassic6543 Not many people talked about memes in 1991 (pre-internet), especially as it is defined now. And I certainly was around before "iconic" was used as widely as it is now. It was a distinct and very noticeable emergence of a seldom-used word. I'll go ahead and maintain my position.
@markgraham5971
@markgraham5971 11 месяцев назад
Be a responsible business person in Japan and say that, I dare you.
@Ghost-fc9hw
@Ghost-fc9hw 11 месяцев назад
​@fododude Iconic was definitely used more widely back then, shortened to "icon" which has been used to describe people for hundreds upon hundreds of years. You're just being semantically ignorant aswell, as "memes' didn't exist because there was no virality, but mocking political cartoons and drawings existed for centuries, which can now be described as memes. No one uses forsooth anymore, but everyone uses "in fact" which is the exact same thing
@etang5
@etang5 10 месяцев назад
I totally agree with the end. I didn't get it when I first watched it in high school but went back to watch it after finishing college and that time and experience in watching movies really helped me "get it". Really interesting work by Ellis and Harron.
@bud389
@bud389 8 месяцев назад
How could you watch this movie and NOT get that it was a satire? First time I saw it I was laughing my ass off. "FEED ME A CAT" - How is that not hilarious?
@user-uu1nw1bl9j
@user-uu1nw1bl9j 8 месяцев назад
The whole video gives zero evidence or provides zero discussion on how people didnt understand the satire at the time.
@nathanherren6708
@nathanherren6708 11 месяцев назад
I always thought Christian Bale was acting like Jim Carrey playing the part of a serial killer….this movie has always been hilarious and it somehow makes it funnier when people meme Patrick’s lifestyle like it’s “top-G alpha” when they probably haven’t seen the movie lmao
@geraldfriend256
@geraldfriend256 11 месяцев назад
Yes he was consciously aping Jim Carrey. And nailed it.
@lordpsi99
@lordpsi99 11 месяцев назад
That's why I love The Cable Guy. I was always shocked that people hated on what I thought was brilliant as Jim Carrey was the ultimate villain and parasite. Terrifying and hilarious simultaneously.
@LamonsterZone
@LamonsterZone 11 месяцев назад
He has said that a Tom Cruise appearance on Letterman was one of his inspirations.
@nathanherren6708
@nathanherren6708 11 месяцев назад
@@LamonsterZone that’s kinda scary honestly
@Donnerbalken28
@Donnerbalken28 11 месяцев назад
@@LamonsterZone It was linked somewhere in another video. The context to that Cruise interview is basically that it is blatantly obvious that Cruise has less than zero motivation to be there and acts with a kind of hollow, superficial politeness, as you do when you really don't like being in a specific social situation, but don't want to offend the host.
@jakeweed1327
@jakeweed1327 11 месяцев назад
there is an interview where Bale talks about meeting and speaking with actual men like this after the film, and how astonishing it was to him that they didn't see it as satire and unironically love Bateman and aspire to be him.
@LeahIsHereNow
@LeahIsHereNow 7 месяцев назад
Ironically, that’s the only terrifying thing about this movie.
@Rampart.X
@Rampart.X 6 месяцев назад
Because, like Bateman, they lacked abstract cognition and self awareness.
@Lektuerekurs
@Lektuerekurs 6 месяцев назад
I mean, it is obviously unrealistically exaggerated... I use only 4 different face lotions
@cleoarbel
@cleoarbel 6 месяцев назад
Fucking terrifying 😭
@BarberShave19
@BarberShave19 6 месяцев назад
Just as long as they don't kill people with axes while playing Huey Lewis & The News.
@ArtiIntel-wl7su
@ArtiIntel-wl7su 6 месяцев назад
I worked in the print industry at that time and the business card scene was so on point!
@Matyboy519
@Matyboy519 9 месяцев назад
Great deep dive!
@jamused4502
@jamused4502 11 месяцев назад
I love that Bale stays in character vocally even when doing the behind the scene interview
@KeithR2002
@KeithR2002 11 месяцев назад
good eye he kept the accent. however have you noticed him returning to his native british accent in one of the last scenes where he is panicking at the telephone booth and confessing to his assistant?
@lucystoner
@lucystoner 10 месяцев назад
A lot of actors stay "in accent" during the whole filming of a project so they don't flip back and forth.
@burper-oe6tm
@burper-oe6tm 11 месяцев назад
I love how in all the behind the scenes clips Christian Bale still uses his American accent because of his method acting
@ratlinggull2223
@ratlinggull2223 11 месяцев назад
Better than Paul Allen's method acting!
@LamonsterZone
@LamonsterZone 11 месяцев назад
I noticed this too!
@kl7360
@kl7360 9 месяцев назад
That's why I rolled my eyes at reports of his "on set meltdown" while they were filming that Terminator movie. The audio showed that he was in character the entire time.
@akbarshahzad5780
@akbarshahzad5780 8 месяцев назад
He doesn't do that as part of method acting, he just has trouble maintaining accents if he lets himself switch back to his normal accent all the time
@micalzoncillo249
@micalzoncillo249 6 месяцев назад
@@kl7360 nah the meltdown was real, imagine you are working, the scene is coming good and you have to do the take again because some idiot was fixing the lights during the shot, it wasn't really a meltdown he just chewed the guy. it's not like bale is an angel either, i think he got arrested for hiting his mom and his sister or something like that, it was right after the dark knight and before terminator
@antonnym214
@antonnym214 6 месяцев назад
👍 Hey, man. I LOVE Huey Lewis and the News! Great Stuff!
@elev8j10
@elev8j10 Месяц назад
I'm going to use, "I have to return some video tapes" to get out of any situation I don't want to be in from now on.
@dmpearnmusic
@dmpearnmusic 11 месяцев назад
I think I remember reading somewhere that Mary said that people were horrified that her and Christian would be pissing themselves laughing when they watched the "do you like Huey lewis" scene during the premiere while everyone was shocked at the violent murder going on 🤣
@BrandonToy
@BrandonToy 11 месяцев назад
How could you not find that scene funny! 😂😂
@fordmodelT1957
@fordmodelT1957 11 месяцев назад
My favourite fact about this film: none of the murders were real - they were all the work of acclaimed fiction writer Bret Easton Ellis.
@sheharyarahmed9745
@sheharyarahmed9745 11 месяцев назад
How did you know ? 😮
@JersJohn
@JersJohn 11 месяцев назад
Genius comment
@actualturtle2421
@actualturtle2421 11 месяцев назад
Movie magic is amazing
@AndrewJW
@AndrewJW 11 месяцев назад
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie
@upintheclouds9511
@upintheclouds9511 11 месяцев назад
Clever
@bwilliams4477
@bwilliams4477 5 месяцев назад
One of the main things I remember from the book, which I read a long time ago, was not so much the violence it was the continuous and meticulous descriptions of the characters suits.
@marcbeaumont62
@marcbeaumont62 7 месяцев назад
When I read the book, I had a slightly different take on it to most people. I assumed that all the violence was just in Patrick's head. So many things happen in such a casual way that someone would have noticed. Witnesses to the violence, do nothing. One of the people he supposedly killed shows up at the end of the book. He leaves bodies out for the garbage men to take away. To me it's a classic example of the unreliable narrator, but unlike Fight Club it doesn't give it away as a twist at the end in a big revelation.
@wyldmaximus2844
@wyldmaximus2844 5 месяцев назад
I like that they leave it pretty ambiguous. It's possible that all the violence was in Patrick's head, but it's also completely plausible that people who live well in a such a callous, self-obsessed world would hear something like that and think "not my problem." For me the fact that he can do these things and no one bats an eye heightens the sense of alienation. It's like he's standing there screaming "WITNESS ME" and no one even looks up.
@peepeepoopoovdbhxvbcc6683
@peepeepoopoovdbhxvbcc6683 11 месяцев назад
Fun fact: the writers later revealed that it is not satire at all and should be taken completely at face value. They applauded the online community that grew to adopt this movie as a “sigma cinema” classic and agreed that Patrick Bateman is actually very cool and alpha and should be a personally strived for by all male youth.
@JamesIsAway
@JamesIsAway 11 месяцев назад
Me when I spread misinformation on the Internet
@geraldfriend256
@geraldfriend256 11 месяцев назад
That IS fun
@jonsnow7844
@jonsnow7844 11 месяцев назад
Or maybe the adoption of Patrick Bateman as the Sigma Male is a tongue in cheek post post modern satire of the latent feminism in the satire. Sure Patrick Bateman is a funny strawman and a critique of "masculinity" but if you honestly believe that wall street stockbrokers aren't human beings with unique personalities and ideas; if you honestly believe that "all men = patriarchy", then jokes on you, we'll be memeing Sigma grindset until the sociology professors (cows) come home.
@johannescarl4283
@johannescarl4283 11 месяцев назад
​@@Wicker_ You're talking about the same kind of men that listen to and defend Andrew Tate. Yes, they do glorify Patrick Bateman. That level of introspection you're describing isn't there.
@ioncekilledamanwithmyshoe
@ioncekilledamanwithmyshoe 11 месяцев назад
@Wicker 2 the sigma meme is a satirical critique of those who genuinely idolize Patrick Bateman and believe in the “sigma male grindset”.
@aayushsharma1350
@aayushsharma1350 11 месяцев назад
When he said he had to return some videotapes the 3rd time I finally realized I was just watching this weird dude who has probably never had a proper confrontation with anyone and then I just kept laughing all the way to the end.
@ToxicBastard
@ToxicBastard 4 месяца назад
Same. This movie is funny as hell, especially when Bateman has to interact with people.
@Toosii2times
@Toosii2times 6 дней назад
your compliment was SUFFICIENT LEWIS.
@zeraldonith8715
@zeraldonith8715 7 месяцев назад
An actually good covering of American Psycho, letting those involved speak for themselves, with complementary interjections
@Mel.U
@Mel.U 11 месяцев назад
Mary Harron was unsung genius director who co-wrote the screenplay with Guinevere Turner. They both are pretty much ignored and not acknowledged,,, which is a shame.
@hulking_presence
@hulking_presence 11 месяцев назад
Probably because of these toxic masculine males again 😡
@joedorben3504
@joedorben3504 11 месяцев назад
Length is not a flaw in and of itself (there's a that's what she said joke in there somewhere), and it's not severely flawed like you're making it out to be. Also a lot of its decisions were bound to be controversial, rather than outright bad. If they work for you, you don't see any issues and find it to be a masterpiece. If they don't work for you, you see it as quite flawed
@gzuskreist1021
@gzuskreist1021 11 месяцев назад
tbh, the movie is absolute trash when compared with the book and she missed out on some key aspects. She basically makes him an insane killer from the beginning instead of building it to it. The first half of the book has almost zero mention of violence at all.
@CalmClamFam
@CalmClamFam 11 месяцев назад
⁠@@gzuskreist1021 Yeah but almost all book to movie adaptations will be like this. They probably wanted to start off the movie as a thriller because that’s how it was advertised in the first place. Thrillers pull more audiences than satire comedies in general.
@eyeseer1
@eyeseer1 11 месяцев назад
A pair of women who wrote and directed a dark comedy about a delusional chauvinist from a book spited by feminists in 1987 is ironic full circle.
@CaptainFSU
@CaptainFSU 9 месяцев назад
I remember watching this in college (where I was essentially still a kid) and being freaked out a little by it, but now when I watch it I realize how much a weirdo Bateman is. What's interesting is how none of the guys really pick up on it, but all the women kinda know that he's a bit off his rocker.
@neuvocastezero1838
@neuvocastezero1838 8 месяцев назад
It's nice when a film remains faithful to the novel, especially a well written one.
@jp3813
@jp3813 11 месяцев назад
While this video points out that many people who missed the satire often end up disliking a satirical work, it's important to also keep in mind that disliking a satirical work doesn't necessarily mean that you missed the satire. Lots of people who hated the book ended up loving this film b/c the latter is very much less violent & sadistic than its source material.
@epsteindidntkillhimself69
@epsteindidntkillhimself69 11 месяцев назад
Was it really all that much more violent? I haven't read it personally, so I can't attest to that, but the author in the video said if you added up all of the text describing violence in the book you'd have about four pages.
@jp3813
@jp3813 11 месяцев назад
​@@epsteindidntkillhimself69 Regardless of the author's accuracy w/ that statement (which I doubt), the level of violence isn't dependent on the number of pages. The book was banned by many places in the world b/c of its sadistic torture sequences, while the movie was not. You can find many comparisons online.
@epsteindidntkillhimself69
@epsteindidntkillhimself69 11 месяцев назад
​@@jp3813 Huckleberry Finn was the first book banned in the US. Is that an indictment of Huckleberry Finn, or an indictment of the people who banned it? The fact that some people were so offended they had to ban a book tells me a good bit about the people, but very little about the book. Have you read American Psycho, or are you just going off the fact that it was banned in some places?
@jp3813
@jp3813 11 месяцев назад
@@epsteindidntkillhimself69 I said "world" & "many", not "US" & "some". I tried reading it long ago but couldn't stomach finishing it. The movie, on the other hand, skips most of the brutality. But if you're gonna doubt what I say anyway, might as well just look up some violent passages from the book yourself. Research beats asking random commenters.
@chuckleberryfinn1992
@chuckleberryfinn1992 11 месяцев назад
​@epsteindidntkillhimself69 not sure the qualifiers to be officially banned, but offer that Harriet Beecher Stowe's " Uncle Tom's Cabin" may qualify, not as the first, but it did precede Huckleberry Finn. But yes to your premise : "Well, what do you mean by that?" ~ "That's boring...much more intriguing is how you are taking it- , that's what's arousing, no?"
@Thatscrazyyourecrazy
@Thatscrazyyourecrazy 11 месяцев назад
The nervous breakdown on the business cards always kills me 😂
@kittybuckley3
@kittybuckley3 6 месяцев назад
I like that Huey Lewis is in the spoof that makes it so clever.
@louisdracula
@louisdracula 10 месяцев назад
I've seen the movie at least a dozen times and somehow never noticed the identical job titles/misspellings in the business card scene, that's an insanely clever detail
@dsmyify
@dsmyify 11 месяцев назад
Fun Fact: there is a typo in the original run of the book. One Bateman is accidentality spelt Batman.
@JacobGrim
@JacobGrim 11 месяцев назад
Lmao
@poppers7317
@poppers7317 11 месяцев назад
how prophetic
@carlray9819
@carlray9819 11 месяцев назад
“accidentality spelt”
@dsmyify
@dsmyify 11 месяцев назад
@@carlray9819... yeah I know. Don't be harsh.
@brandonfitzgerald8705
@brandonfitzgerald8705 11 месяцев назад
@@dsmyify balls for not editing LOL
@jamiebowler4693
@jamiebowler4693 11 месяцев назад
Impressive very nice, let’s see Paul Allen’s deep dive into American Psycho.
@sorecererslothful703
@sorecererslothful703 Месяц назад
I love how Christine Bale stays in character on set even when being interviewed about the movie.
@mikejohnzon
@mikejohnzon 5 месяцев назад
The mispelled "aquisitions" on all their cards is just delightful
@sircharlessomerset1290
@sircharlessomerset1290 11 месяцев назад
" I want to fit in" : that s the key phrase of the movie
@staebs
@staebs 11 месяцев назад
Too bad the people who take the movie as something to look up to fully overlook any sort of subtext like that.
@actualturtle2421
@actualturtle2421 11 месяцев назад
@@staebs No they don't. Your inability to get the joke doesn't mean we're not joking. Go outside and stop being a busybody on the internet.
@YesJellyfish
@YesJellyfish 11 месяцев назад
​@@actualturtle2421 dude, I don't think he disagrees..
@AndrewJW
@AndrewJW 11 месяцев назад
They're exactly right. People idolize Bateman as the ultimate "sigma male" meanwhile his biggest goal is not to stand out and be a trailblazer but to fit in and be invisible. He wants to be liked by everyone. He wants to be the same just a LITTLE bit better.
@sboinkthelegday3892
@sboinkthelegday3892 11 месяцев назад
Amazing how many people have the key phrase "I want to wear the mask" still rattling in their brains, and here they sit, having the main takeaway of the film be what "happened" in the film and what it "tells" us. When it DIDN'T happen; it's fiction. Told by some guy. Bateman is admired like Santa Claus is admired, because articles of faith REMAIN WITHIN the FAITH, they don't appear in your real life prowling on the rooftops. Not in reality, not until the line for you specifically starts to blur. Then YOU start conjuring up these imps and devils on the wall about how behavior, or made-up stories, MEANS something when it doesn't in fact CAUSE anything. Like a single protest MEANS something but the violence or peace of the protest itself, is irrelevant to your agenda. Because the violence is in reality, and your "meaning" is in the fantasy, that YOU take seriously.
@Cameron-ue7lu
@Cameron-ue7lu 11 месяцев назад
For someone who worked in Banking in the 90's, American Psycho is absolutely spot on with it's characterisation of our protagonist. There was a Patrick Bateman in every dealing desk and the blood stains to prove it. For the record, my business cards were not the best by far. The Power of Love. Sleep well.
@Rose_from_UK
@Rose_from_UK 7 месяцев назад
I need to rewatch this
@DanielJohnFPV
@DanielJohnFPV 9 месяцев назад
I never caught that they misspelled acquisitions! Such a great detail
@tom.mp4
@tom.mp4 11 месяцев назад
Fun fact: Christian Bale said his performance was inspired by a Tom Cruise appearance on David Letterman
@CinemaStix
@CinemaStix 11 месяцев назад
I was hoping to throw that in, but couldn’t find a good quality version of the specific interview. Maybe for a part two one day. Because the film’s got a fascinating history generally in how it all cane together.
@tom.mp4
@tom.mp4 11 месяцев назад
@@CinemaStix Agreed! That's a video I'd be very excited to watch
@lrvz7187
@lrvz7187 11 месяцев назад
@@tom.mp4 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ecwh7g5GnP0.html&ab_channel=Eddie4518is it this one?
@dsmyify
@dsmyify 11 месяцев назад
Patrick Bateman meets Tom Cruise in the book.
@theonlywestfree
@theonlywestfree 11 месяцев назад
​@@dsmyify holy shytstix. Is this real?
@jerraldwest8531
@jerraldwest8531 11 месяцев назад
Fun fact: Christian Bale suppressed his natural accent for the entire production of the film, even when he wasn't acting in a scene. That's why he's got an american accent in those interview clips.
@waltervanlille2263
@waltervanlille2263 8 месяцев назад
Fun fact: Charlize Theron never loses her fake American accent either, but that's because she's the living personification of Christian Bale's character in this movie, and has no actual personality of her own.
@Ukraineaissance2014
@Ukraineaissance2014 8 месяцев назад
Thats pretty common to do. David suchet keeps his belgian accent for weeks while filming poirot, it just makes it a lot easier. With accents yiu have to physically change your miuth movements and aclimitise to it
@santiv4
@santiv4 6 месяцев назад
@@Ukraineaissance2014sure but that doesnt require you to be in it off set.
@normie2716
@normie2716 6 месяцев назад
@@santiv4 In this case, it does. That's what the guy above you is saying. It's easier once you've got it down to just keep using it all the time, rather than switching back and forth.
@gabbleratchet1890
@gabbleratchet1890 5 месяцев назад
I didn’t realize that Bale didn’t move to America until he was 17, well past the age when kids can naturally pick up a different accent. I thought he had lived in the US much younger.
@Alex_Under_Attack
@Alex_Under_Attack 11 месяцев назад
The only reason I watched American Psycho in the first place was because I thought it was a comedy. The only part I'd ever seen up until watching the full film was that section with the business cards and it was so amusing I wanted to watch the full thing. I was then horrified, but reading more about it and the context behind it changed that experience in my mind a lot!
@ToxicBastard
@ToxicBastard 4 месяца назад
I realised it was 100% a comedy when Bale is naked and bloodsoaked with a chainsaw doing his best Tom Cruise impression.
@user-dc3tv5lv8e
@user-dc3tv5lv8e 8 месяцев назад
Would love to see you talk about the relationship to "the rules of attraction" or that film in general... and I hope one day the 3rd film that they shot will be publicly released...
@DreamHouse1221
@DreamHouse1221 11 месяцев назад
I remember watching this at 13 and kinda not getting it, then I watched it years later and realized it’s one of the funniest movies I’ve ever see. And a biting satire that’s maybe more relevant today
@LabradorIndependent
@LabradorIndependent 11 месяцев назад
I think it's alright to see this at 13 and go "Well, that's fucked up" then review it later on and go "Ooooh I get it, it's irony!" What worries me is the not unsubstantial number of people who are told outright it's satire, that the author wrote it as satire and the filmmakers adapted it as satire - then insist it isn't and that they relate to it on an unironic level.
@actualturtle2421
@actualturtle2421 11 месяцев назад
@@LabradorIndependent It's a meme, numbnuts. You not getting the joke doesn't mean we're not joking.
@WICK_3D
@WICK_3D 11 месяцев назад
@@LabradorIndependent the intellectual capabilities of a 13yo and the average Patrick Bateman stan are freakishly similar, believe it or not
@Xzceed
@Xzceed 11 месяцев назад
@@WICK_3D you give them too much praise doubling their average mental age
@ukulelevillain4170
@ukulelevillain4170 11 месяцев назад
90 percent of 13 year olds never got that far
@soapybeepy
@soapybeepy 11 месяцев назад
I just want to take a moment to recommend the book to people who don't normally read. I'm not bookish at all, I'm a bit simple, and normally don't get a lot of enjoyment from literature. Themes and subtext in classic books totally fly over my head a lot of the time, and despite how universally praised a book is, I usually get too bored to continue. AP was the first book that flipped that switch in my brain that caused an "Aha" moment as to why people enjoy picking books apart for meaning. I felt as though I finally "got" literature, in that I understood everything the author was saying, and that the subtext and themes were as crucial to my enjoyment of the book as the story itself. It's a masterclass in hitting the sweet spot where the message is delivered neither heavy handedly, nor so riddled with double entendre that the (excellent) story suffers. Also, I'm terrified of blood and nearly passed out twice reading it, yet it's still my favourite book. About what I got from the book: it's that if you put a murderous lunatic in a room with a cabal of bankers, you'd never be able to point them out - they're that alien. These people run our economy. I'd like to exit the planet now, please. I thoroughly recommend reading this, especially if like me you don't "like" books. 10/10
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan 11 месяцев назад
It's not a realistic book. It's a reflection of the author's own mental illness, and is just silly. It only got popular because oversocialized people get off on breaking supposed taboos when in reality if they're all heaping praise upon it, it can't actually be breaking taboos by such powerful cultural institutions.
@noahmclaughlin2251
@noahmclaughlin2251 11 месяцев назад
The book is a lot more descriptive than the movie is though. Rat, for example.
@soapybeepy
@soapybeepy 11 месяцев назад
@noahmclaughlin2251 True, and it can be difficult to stomach at times, given how vivid Ellis is with those scenes. As I said, there were parts of the book that were a major struggle to get through for me. It's utterly brutal, much moreso than the film, but it's still a great read all the same. I'd say to anyone who got put off by the book by those scenes to give it another go - try to take a more detached attitude to the violence. Don't focus so much on the acts, but consider the type of person Patrick actually is. The violence is absurd, and this is actually an important point, in my opinion. I don't want to spoil anything, but remembering that he's an extremely unreliable narrator helps a lot.
@shazanali692
@shazanali692 10 месяцев назад
You got a point The book is really readable, its a page turner for folks who normally don't read. Just strange😊
@schoo9256
@schoo9256 9 месяцев назад
I never thought anything could make me interested in reading it, but i think you just did.
@TheOpticalFreak
@TheOpticalFreak 5 месяцев назад
The business card scene is still the best! 😆🤣
@MellissaBoomeroftheNight
@MellissaBoomeroftheNight 5 месяцев назад
I read the book in graduate school. We asked our ethics prof if we could turn it into an assignment, which isn't an easy task in grad school. He read it in a couple of days, (I mean it wasn't 'The Brothers Karamazov'). We lost, but discussed it with them during phil club and they were into it. The scene with the escorts is a lot more graphic in the book and reminded me of the end of 'Less Than Zero," the novel.
@skonenblades
@skonenblades 11 месяцев назад
I remember thinking that the book couldn't be translated to the screen while keeping the same spirit and walking that fine line. Then I saw the movie and I was like "I'll be damned. They did it!"
@ronin84
@ronin84 11 месяцев назад
I remember renting this and Donnie Darko when I was 18 and the two movies blew my tiny teenage head. Also, I never noticed they all misspelled "Acquisitions" on their business cards lol
@c3m3t4ry81unts.
@c3m3t4ry81unts. 11 месяцев назад
Donnie Darko is my favorite
@honeyxmoony
@honeyxmoony 11 месяцев назад
I watched both movies for the same time on the same day lmao it was the best day ever
@howlinhauler
@howlinhauler 11 месяцев назад
did you return the videos
@oliviabb73849
@oliviabb73849 7 месяцев назад
The business card part has always been top favorite for me. I’ve never read the book, but I think I will start tomorrow (must get from library)!
@cal7447
@cal7447 6 месяцев назад
I was waiting for the gentleman to bring forth some unique personal insight, but reached the end of the video feeling like it was just a summary of known information, with smooth BGM and voice over. I'm so confused.
@michaeldonnelly2977
@michaeldonnelly2977 11 месяцев назад
“Bateman is an alien, he copies the people around him but doesn’t have any emotions…. “ That explains everything! Thank you sir.
@RJ_Last
@RJ_Last 11 месяцев назад
I remember a friend telling me how she hates that I liked the movie. Made her re-watch it with me after getting high and she finally realized how silly everything is. She even mentioned hating on the movie so much that she didn't notice the part where the ATM asked to be fed the stray cat lol.
@andreww.8262
@andreww.8262 6 месяцев назад
I didn't notice that either lol
@vnzstz209
@vnzstz209 6 месяцев назад
women
@serena841
@serena841 6 месяцев назад
​@@vnzstz209 Wo men
@sherlockscankles6457
@sherlockscankles6457 6 месяцев назад
@@vnzstz209 When a man is stupid, he is just stupid. When a woman is stupid, all women are stupid.
@santiv4
@santiv4 6 месяцев назад
@@vnzstz209incel moment
@isaiahskates6587
@isaiahskates6587 11 месяцев назад
I didn't even notice that Christian Bale was still doing the accent as he was talking
@rory7485
@rory7485 2 месяца назад
he’s method acting
@Autotrope
@Autotrope 2 месяца назад
That bit at the start with huey lewis is hilarious. Hadn't seen that. There were two movies when I was a teenager that seemed to attract some of my peers for perhaps the "wrong" reasons. This one, and Starship Troopers. Both movies with an unsettling social commentary presented underneath over the top bombastic violence. If you miss the social commentary part you may come away from this with the idea it is celebrating that violence
@bbloomfield6497
@bbloomfield6497 11 месяцев назад
I got the joke when I saw it in the early 2000's (exploding a cop car with a single bullet made it pretty clear), but I wasn't that well versed on Bale and film history, to the extent that I thought the movie was made in the late 80's to early 90's. My naivete served me well as costumes and setting aside, it feels like a movie from the period it was based on.
@gateauxq4604
@gateauxq4604 11 месяцев назад
??? The costumes and settings are also 80s af. All the art design was virtually flawless
@AllenKnutson
@AllenKnutson 11 месяцев назад
It happens sometimes. Cars just explode. Natural causes. An ATM demanding to be fed a kitten, now, that's getting a little suspicious.
@sabbathjackal
@sabbathjackal 11 месяцев назад
I love that even Bateman looks at his gun "wtf? Did I do that?"
@bbloomfield6497
@bbloomfield6497 11 месяцев назад
@@sabbathjackal For me it kinda parallels 'The Last Action Hero' (1993) when Arnold's character is surprised and confused that he can't make cars explode in the "real world". Both playing with movie tropes, self awareness, realism and fantasy.
@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494
@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 11 месяцев назад
@@AllenKnutson lol - even if you take all the other scenes as "no, that could have actually happened", the ATM one is the point at which I think we can all agree "oh c'mon now that's not for real"
@funx24X7
@funx24X7 11 месяцев назад
It’s funny how Mary says she avoided showing the moment of violence, this likely backfired by leaving those moments up to the audiences’ imaginations which can be way more powerful than whatever image you put on screen.
@mikeyh0
@mikeyh0 11 месяцев назад
As Alfred Hitchcock did so brilliantly. That shower scene, for instance.
@KingofCrusher
@KingofCrusher 11 месяцев назад
Texas Chainsaw Massacre effect, lol. That meat hook scene will forever haunt me even though it literally shows no gore.
@lint1234
@lint1234 11 месяцев назад
excellent point, the hooker scene with the tools comes to mind 😬
@murk1e
@murk1e 11 месяцев назад
Not showing is not the same thing as not implying. Nowhere does she say that she did not want to imply.
@funx24X7
@funx24X7 11 месяцев назад
@@murk1e I mean if you really want to nitpick then sure. I was just pointing out how her approach didn’t do her any favors in regards to how viewers associate her films with violence despite her disinterest in body horror.
@NipGrizzlySays
@NipGrizzlySays 6 месяцев назад
Interesting video. This perspective makes the movie make much more sense.
@hbt739
@hbt739 4 месяца назад
Oh my god the card scene, the first time i watched the movie i was sober, the second time i wasnt and this scene killed me.
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