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“Investing” in Path of Exile : The Most Efficient Currency Strategy in the Game 

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@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
Personal/Content Update To Begin Video This Ends/Investing Discussion Begins At: 11:01
@BrennanFalknerDev
@BrennanFalknerDev Год назад
Could you just not talk about yourself for 11 minutes? Most people's entire videos are about that long.
@mattthorpe2679
@mattthorpe2679 Год назад
Hey, bro I really loved the video. I've been working on my league starter for Crucible and I have wanted to grow my currency strategy. I still have yet to make a mirror. Could you make more content on the exact investments similar to The Voices and also how to make currency to buy items like that earlier on in the league similar to the chance orb method you showed us ? I have written down +1 Power Charge and +1 Frenzy charge rings to look out for earlier on. It would be great to broaden the list of items to watch for and how to build currency to buy them within the first couple of days and weeks !!
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
@@BrennanFalknerDev okay, I will need some information but my next video I will qualify the information presented from your perspective and experiences instead.
@BrennanFalknerDev
@BrennanFalknerDev Год назад
@@BeltonPoE my perspective is that framing information with your life story does not change the information, and leading with you being banned (again) from Twitch is a bad look and the whole thing seems like a pathetic attempt to defend yourself. Instead just make a video titled "Why I was banned from Twitch" so I can not click on it.
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
@@BrennanFalknerDev sounds good buddy, cheers
@_LogicEngineer
@_LogicEngineer Год назад
00:00 What is POEconomics? 01:56 Twitch Ban and Where I am Going With Content Creation 11:02 What is Investing in POE? 13:14 Video Topics 15:50 Inflation 22:18 The Fatal Flaw 26:11 The Solution 32:39 The Solution Pt. II 34:02 Types of Investments 40:08 Diversification and Hedging Risk 48:55 Other Factors 59:54 Investing Examples 01:09:48 Outro
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
MVP
@Gid-J
@Gid-J Год назад
One thing you could cut back on to shorten video length is how often you talk about the video length. And don't you dare talk about cutting back on talking about video length to save on video length in your next video.
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
Penrose Staircase-esque video about video duration coming April 1st 👀
@micdonallls8853
@micdonallls8853 Год назад
I like this guy we like you talking time stamps
@AndrisVilde
@AndrisVilde Год назад
Hearing your life story definetely helps understand you better. Thanks for opening up. And about video length - don't mention it anymore )) every minute of your videos is useful!
@Gid-J
@Gid-J Год назад
35:09 Mind over matter Dex stacking Boneshatter. I did it! Bless UP!
@thecpu3949
@thecpu3949 Год назад
Amazing presentation, James! Really loved how structured is everything and how you've been making clear examples throughout the video for us to better understand each case. This just couldn't be better and you of all people must know that your viewership isn't watching your vids for flashy clickbaity thumbnails and editing but for the informative and profound insights of the economic side of the game, which you've been continuously delivering. Long time follower here!
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
Thanks a lot man!
@karlh420
@karlh420 Год назад
Dude first off you are the best poe content creator I have found. A lot of what you do Is over my head but I am learning from every video. I don't usually comment on stuff but kinda feel like sharing this story. I set some goals this league that I hit and some I didn't. I am a newer player with just over 500 hours. I have played every league since arch nemesis. Everytime I try something new or to challenge myself. I played this last league a bit safer playing ea champ for a second time. I wanted to see how I could push it since the first time I played it I barely understood the game. One of the goals I set my self was craft a plus 2 amulet. I failed and wasted roughly 4-5 divines on picking the wrong meta mods. I quite the league for like 5 days since it was like 90% of my currency and It was like 3-4 weeks in. I played for another week or two before ending the league with roughly 10 divines in my stash. I hoped back on last week and sold some stuff and was sitting around 16 divines and then I stumbled on your vids. I spend some on getting materials for crafting flasks etc. I watched your crafting +2 amulet video then I watched it again. And realized I didnt mess up I could fix my old amulet. I tried again following your advice. I made a banger amulet for myself. I used it and then realized I wasn't going to play much before next league. I just want to practice more crafting. So I put it up for sale. I made my first 25 Divine sale tonight. Maybe it could of gone for more. Idk. I will say that I am now hooked even more than I was before on this game. I appreciate the knowledge you are sharing. I am not sure if I can replicate the amulet earlier in a league. But I know I have some clearer goals for crucible. Thanks again man! Also your video length is fine. No need to apologize for it. Just keep at it!
@AsmodeusClips
@AsmodeusClips Год назад
Great video! As far as I know the cluster jewels of lvl50-67 early on don't come mostly from heist because the minimum required zone level for delirium reward chests which contain cluster jewels is 68 - below that level these chests are transformed into generic reward chests which is why demolition contracts are so good to run at these early levels (they drop lots of raw currency/uniques/rare jewelery)
@triangle1332
@triangle1332 5 месяцев назад
Your channel is so fascinating. I've read some bad stuff about you so I thought I'd come watch some videos and see for myself. And all you're doing is giving amazing advice! It really is as simple as you're giving away trade secrets and people are mad about it. Getting you banned for bullshit on multiple platforms. Spreading hate. You name it. Keep it up man. These videos transcend PoE. All these lessons you're teaching can be applied to any game or even real life investing and trading. Great stuff
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for withholding judgement and affording me the opportunity to be measured by merit ; not so lucky all the time. It’s appreciated. Similarly appreciate the kind words my man! I’m glad you enjoy it
@seventyfive1
@seventyfive1 Год назад
This is definitely the best video you've made so far. I actually worked for a hedge fund for 10 years and never really connected the idea of buying items for investment. I understand crafting and flipping but the idea of buying clusters until people hit 90 makes a lot of sense. I think the PowerPoint kept you on target and was really helpful. Great job and good luck on everything. I hope your RU-vid blows way past anything you had on twitch.
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
Thank you very much my man. Wont patronize your skill-set by suggesting ways to cross-applicate it, but hopefully the idea of doing so being implanted leads you to fruitful pastures going forward. All the best hombre🙏🏻📈
@AGMI9
@AGMI9 Год назад
@@BeltonPoE dude how you analysis and work the poe market is insane you should really think about getting into day trading or swing trading which is longer than a day more to the time frame of a month or longer, you would fkn kill it, good luck man seriously think about it it seems right up your alley
@daethbane
@daethbane 9 месяцев назад
I was getting frustrated with my lack of knowledge and ability to do what I wanted, instead of complaining I've stopped focusing on the trout and found a few great whites like you. This should help the next leagues be VERY different for me. Thanks for all this effort you put in!
@PuddinDH
@PuddinDH Год назад
Nice video man, such a clean setup and great info. keep it up
@Adoptulous
@Adoptulous 5 месяцев назад
Genuinely amazing info, glad to get to catch up on these after just finding your channel.
@darkdayprogram9328
@darkdayprogram9328 2 дня назад
I really like your point about what vs. Why. This is one of the most prolific mistakes i have seen made, myself included, by new players. Understanding the fundamentals of a build will make that build feel 1000x better to pilot.
@user-oi4wu7df7p
@user-oi4wu7df7p Год назад
happy 10 year.ty for ur guide,im a 10 year poe player yet😉感谢你的付出
@kronos6460
@kronos6460 Год назад
Although many of these things I know intuitively, this video really helped to crystallize them in my mind by putting them into words. I'd be most interested in day 1-3 strategies for currency generation as that's where I've always struggled until It's possible to craft and sell higher end items.
@KrystianLusz
@KrystianLusz Год назад
You are very good at what you do with PoE. Also I am pretty sure you are presenting informations exacly as Poe Community wants and needs. Keep it up!
@NickNameGone
@NickNameGone Год назад
Thanks, each time it is an enlightenment.
@andregericke2777
@andregericke2777 Год назад
Awesome video!! Don't mind it being long, I just watch it in segments. Watching your videos already made me look at making currency differently and implementing some of the concepts will just make next league better than this one. Keep it up!!!
@Arrythmic798
@Arrythmic798 Год назад
Really love the content you are creating, helps me improve my worst aspect in the game greatly: economics and utilizing opportunity windows
@philipong8881
@philipong8881 Год назад
Hi Belton, thank you for the video. I think you really hit a raw nerve here. I'm generally a casual player, but I've played this game for a few years and my expectations grew. The one item that I wanted to buy is Original Sin, I thought casually that could be a farming goal. At that time it was selling for about 80Divines, and I had about 60. Fast forward just a week or two and it goes to 115, and another week later or so 130-140. I gave up, I can't earn currencies fast enough. Any tips for casual players? What I define casual player is not only are they only able to spend 1-2 hours daily max, they are also not necessarily stick to a strict time schedule (like investing into Chance orbs 5 hours from league start), heck we might even miss the first week. Oh btw, also want to thank you for the video on flasks. While I didn't get to follow your instruction to the t, I did profit a couple of Divines from selling multiple 100C, 60C flasks. Should have spent more effort on that now I realise.
@534nMCp633
@534nMCp633 Год назад
Just discovered your content. You make great videos and I think they will actually help me make more currency.
@MatteBlacke
@MatteBlacke Год назад
I can’t believe how thoughtful and articulate this presentation is! Truly excellent, man.
@andrewdnistriansky3719
@andrewdnistriansky3719 Год назад
Just curious, do you have a degree in economics or something? Most of these things are intuitive to some players but your certain terms use and generalizing make it looks like you have some economics or business background.
@REIwAlexY
@REIwAlexY 11 месяцев назад
This AMAZING video is EXACTLY why people meme that you need a PhD in economics to play POE at peak xD this video could legit be modified a bit and put into like a graduate econ class
@implosesgm
@implosesgm Год назад
Have you already posted the powerpoint version of the video somewhere? if yes, where it is? 😅
@gregg9725
@gregg9725 Год назад
We ask for an investing video, the man delivers!
@pixelink5190
@pixelink5190 Год назад
good subject matter, esp for this time of league , thanks belton
@ClaudioBramby
@ClaudioBramby Год назад
Hi man, i was just trying to do the thing you did about doing Einhar in act 2, i made a new char and did the quest, but after he moved to the managerie i cannot see him again in the various zones. Is there a way you use to force him to appear?
@TT-md7mm
@TT-md7mm 9 месяцев назад
I've been playing this game on and off for a few years now and you're the one person that has made the most sense about the economy I've come across. Keep up the good work g!
@jakeh.8754
@jakeh.8754 Год назад
nice video. have you considered playing hardcore (even from hideout warrior-ish angle)?
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
Google Belton and Havoc for your answer 😂
@TheBlackWaltz
@TheBlackWaltz 5 месяцев назад
I haven't been watching your stuff long, but I really enjoy it. I can tell that you're knowledgeable, passionate, and willing to help the masses even if it hurts your experience.
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE 5 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot homie! Glad you like it!
@_LogicEngineer
@_LogicEngineer Год назад
Fantastic video Belton. Very well thought out, stayed on topic, clear examples along the way. Best I've seen from you in terms of informative videos. Looking forward to more!
@eldombro7049
@eldombro7049 Год назад
That effort. Dude. Insane. You’re a mind-reader, i was looking for this one just a few hours ago . Much appreciated, thanks a lot mate!
@frito3082
@frito3082 Год назад
that act2 beast farm sounds insane, can you elaborate more pls ?
@Pizzastealingninja
@Pizzastealingninja Год назад
I love long RU-vid videos. Just like other areas of life, it's not just about length; it's about how you use it, and you always use it well. #1 rule of poe investing: invest your time in absorbing and implementing Belton's concepts
@Aurinna
@Aurinna Год назад
Love your analysis, thank you for your knowledge
@jovanpavlovic3591
@jovanpavlovic3591 Месяц назад
hay, can you please explain a little bit about your stand on TFT discord?
@rjh-pi4zg
@rjh-pi4zg Год назад
Things will turn around, cheers
@dmitrysuchkov7818
@dmitrysuchkov7818 5 месяцев назад
I feel like I finally have found someone like Path of Math or even better. This content is amazing, thank you bro! Im with you now)
@keyboardbroken
@keyboardbroken Год назад
Great video. Love the perspectives and anecdotes making profit, especially right at league start. I’m surprised you used divines as the baseline for appreciation. If you look at mirrors as the measure of wealth/value, most things are rapidly depreciating, including divines.
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
The video isn’t meant to affirm anything for myself - using mirrors as a relatable measure of inflation to a RU-vid audience would instantly lose people - too much of a disconnect. Divines are more relatable but 100% mirrors are a better example, although are somewhat different insofar as their primary underlying value comes from use case more so than as a standard bartering currency. Mirrors are (largely) so cheap early on because there aren’t any items to mirror yet. Divines rarely if ever have their value tied into their functional application and are almost entirety driven by inflationary measures
@iliaalekov2949
@iliaalekov2949 5 месяцев назад
poe newb here. i always found my self capped when it comes to gear for my char and how much it costs. im not competitive at all so the prices seemed out of this world... great content! subscribed. i aways want to learn more.
@c0nnstance
@c0nnstance Год назад
Thanks
@Dizzinator2114
@Dizzinator2114 Год назад
What’s weird is I’ve invested before throughout my years and have made currency but never like 2+ mirrors from it, but enough to make my build. The thing that always gets me at league start is what should I do? Because likely I may have 1-8 chaos once I make it out the acts which for me is usually 6-8 hours after league starts. I always struggle with what I should do at that point should I spend the 8c or use it towards tabula, should I chais recipe for a few hours to buy gear? I never know what to exactly do.
@elantonelle
@elantonelle Год назад
Depends on what your goal is, mapping? Heisting? Farming bosses? Early on you generally want to invest all currency into gear
@Dizzinator2114
@Dizzinator2114 Год назад
@@elantonelle honestly I recently realized I prefer bossing, but I suck at Ubers especially searing. However this league I wanted to start off with mapping.
@user-xo8ui1nj9o
@user-xo8ui1nj9o Год назад
I never seen such an interesting video about PoE educational content. Watched in 1 breath! Thank you for your content very much.
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
Thanks for the kind words man glad you enjoyed!
@user-xo8ui1nj9o
@user-xo8ui1nj9o 6 месяцев назад
​@@BeltonPoEhahaha, I am actually rewatching this every once in a while. Still best educational video I ever seen. Actually, made my first mirror in crucible, thanks to you (bought couple of power charge rings and 1p voices)! Also looking forward to subscribe on your patreon soon.
@Overhandrightt
@Overhandrightt Год назад
You know what - i just like to be subscribed to this channel.Yeah - just came here to drop this comment. GL
@V___X
@V___X Год назад
When can I invest in Belton Bonds that give a fixed ROI over a time period?
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
The name is Bond, Investment Bond
@mikewalkner9627
@mikewalkner9627 Год назад
Subbed you Belton. Going through similar things, living on a shoe string budget to pursue my dream. Respect your dedication.
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
Game recognize game. Keep pushing brother.
@MrMokey24
@MrMokey24 Месяц назад
If anyone asks what is the POE player stereotype I will show them this video. Thanks.
@oskartu12
@oskartu12 Год назад
56:00 - what do u invest money into day 1 to get 100-200x return? I've always struggled with it and just horded currency for crafting day 4-5
@elantonelle
@elantonelle Год назад
You gotta find those items yourself, revealing them would ruin the profit
@oskartu12
@oskartu12 Год назад
@@elantonelle i just wanted to hear an example cuz ive never had such a ROI, tbf he showed one example later in the video so nvm
@michaelkaliber
@michaelkaliber Год назад
@@oskartu12 div cards mostly
@gopalayoung3719
@gopalayoung3719 Год назад
These videos are pure gold and I cant thank you enough for putting in the work. In game wealth has always been a mystery to me and this kind of stuff is just invaluable. Thank you!
@y0riklil477
@y0riklil477 Год назад
Fuck all the negativity, forget about the morons who report you. Individuals like you always move the community in the right direction and will continue to do so. You are the best, don't forget this one. Video badass.
@jimbleddsafdsaf
@jimbleddsafdsaf Год назад
Great vid. Slide show and long format is nothing to apologize for, I'd want it no other way.
@schapel
@schapel Год назад
I'll consume everything you put out about this topic lol
@franconicolay7512
@franconicolay7512 Год назад
what a video man, thank you very much
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@ethans-d6105
@ethans-d6105 Год назад
lol why does twitch hate you so much its way too funny. I guess some people don't like you, and twitch doesn't really review the reports that much :p keep kicking! you have a great soul and brain, and I love your videos :)
@brandonlincoln778
@brandonlincoln778 Год назад
This is economy class ...bri g a apple to class ❤😂
@holypreacher
@holypreacher Год назад
Prometheus🙏
@Euthafro
@Euthafro Год назад
59:28 quote of the video lmaooo
@Euthafro
@Euthafro Год назад
Not to detract from the knowledge, just made me laugh
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
😎
@ph8680
@ph8680 10 месяцев назад
At the 17 minute mark using your 200 total chaos example and saying theres a good chance you could buy a tabula for example... This is assuming you are one of the 200 people with a chaos orb? If not id really like to know how lol
@lenandov
@lenandov 7 месяцев назад
I figured if you took the time to make it work, I'd take the time to try it. So here. For what it's worth.
@ChrisMeirose
@ChrisMeirose Год назад
Make a screen placeholder for when you are "live" but not present saying what hours you'll be on for viewing.
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
Moot point now! But I did have this- when afk webcam was off and a Belton banner was up. I play like 15 hours a day when I’m streaming so it’s not the same every day so that wouldn’t be much help- I appreciate the looking out tho!
@Dizzinator2114
@Dizzinator2114 Год назад
Hmm never thought of doing that I can see a way to pull that off… mmhmm you’ve put an idea into my mind.
@sendroid4635
@sendroid4635 Год назад
first graph you need to reverse the axis
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
was wondering if anyone would notice that when I watched the vid back while it uploaded. Wasnt going to redo whole vid tho. Well spotted my friend!
@sendroid4635
@sendroid4635 Год назад
@@BeltonPoE it is your duty to create humans that cant miss such a thing! good content, keep up the good work
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
@@sendroid4635 haha going to try using this as a pickup line next time I'm out
@zaron31116
@zaron31116 Год назад
This is more of a minor point but when you brought up the part about farming beasts 25 minutes in to the league to get one to make a unique and sell. I decided I wanted to go test this and see how reliable it could be. I don't believe you can find the "create unique" beast in riverways, I ended up trying to farm den (same area level, easier to not miss beasts) and farmed for about an hour and never got that beast. I did get alot of beasts to create chromes, fusings, jewellers and orbs of binding though. Regardless, I love the content and will gladly listen to hours of it. I hate to hear about what happened to you with Twitch, but good on you for pushing through and just doing what you can.
@frito3082
@frito3082 Год назад
I also tried it in riverways and got quite a few of those random unique spiders, maybe unlucky
@zaron31116
@zaron31116 Год назад
@@frito3082 Not sure what the difference may have been, maybe I was just unlucky, either that or campaign may have some limitations on where certain beasts can spawn other than area level
@user-nu5jo9bu5l
@user-nu5jo9bu5l Год назад
Nice job. Rog craft pls/
@philipripper1522
@philipripper1522 Год назад
lol, i make maybe a divine per league. that's why i'm looking around at videos on how money works.
@kimysok5657
@kimysok5657 Год назад
wut hearing twitch ban sound unfair sadge
@alexzephyris1455
@alexzephyris1455 4 месяца назад
31:00 boy wait till you learn how money is actually made(it's backed by nothing than the USS security shipping lanes)
@ILikeGuns1992
@ILikeGuns1992 Год назад
You reach act 2 in 25 mins on League start? Aren't you notoriously bad player? Or it's another hyperbole and it took way longer? What was the ratio for chance orbs 4 hours in? What did you do after getting first chance orbs from fusing orbs? ... Problem is you need this currency to begin with and it would take forever to see price increase dramatically in most cases. Quick schemes will be further tanked by people who watched the video and decided to go for it.. Meanwhile you need to continue operating and upgrading your build. I am not sure what is harder to master - ability to trade, sniff out opportunitiies and weight risks on super high level like you or push content on high level like streamers who get MB and insane gear in first couple of days setting them for a whole League. Both of these approaches let you invest into items that will appreciate later if you want.
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
Mageblood first couple days is the same cost as 2 mirrors. Right now, it is 1/3 a mirror approximately. Mageblood is definitely an important item to get but I typically wait 7-10 days before getting one as their relative cost in those first few days is absurd , and (unless racing or pushing ladder) not having a mageblood for a couple days will hamper your efficiency by maybe 20-30% for approximately 2-3% of the league...whereas if you bought 2 mirrors, you at the very least would have 1-1.3 ish additional mirrors of purchasing power by deferring this purchase slightly - when you then reallocate those funds into other compounding investments the difference can be league defining.
@JustWolt
@JustWolt Год назад
you really gotta make your videos more concise
@dicemm5544
@dicemm5544 Год назад
After watching the video, very well presented, considerably better than you sitting with your own thoughts and slowly eking them out, wishing you the best
@nitinjaglan
@nitinjaglan Год назад
For the love of god please add video timestamps and section. There is so much useful information here that no one will be able to find in a 1hr video
@procs
@procs Год назад
first
@med640
@med640 Год назад
What an incredibly dull way to spend your time in a game...
@Joel-kc5jk
@Joel-kc5jk Год назад
This entire video is a humble brag about living off rmt.
@BeltonPoE
@BeltonPoE Год назад
Definitely know that you didn't watch the video. ....I've never done anything humbly in my life.
@callmeconvay7977
@callmeconvay7977 Год назад
This is a great video! As a sort of constructive criticism, I'd say the biggest thing you could do to improve your guides is to produce more guides on how to produce the first 1, 10, 100 divines, similar to your Flasks video. While there's lots of knowledge to gain from something like investing into Original Sins, it's useless to a player who doesn't have enough to meet the opportunity costs in the first place - it sort of falls into the "step 1: get rich, step 2: get richer" trap, where the advice you're giving requires prerequisite knowledge/skill that most players simply don't have.
@duff137
@duff137 Год назад
this!
@dicemm5544
@dicemm5544 Год назад
32:36, I have gambled my one Apothecary card, that I found completely randomly, to double or nothing and poofed it. I didn't feel as horrible as when as I found it and got excited. Because I never expected to get it, I didn't feel like I lost it when it poofed. But it would have been insane to double my already insane luck.
@dicemm5544
@dicemm5544 Год назад
Hey belton, small tip, leaving time stamps, ie Risk Aversion - 13:38 , at the description segments the video for our viewing pleasure. Im gonna [redacted] my arms off now, later
@sanquineo
@sanquineo Год назад
Agree
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