Radial makes a bunch of different options for this, which I believe they are using. Basically a box that runs your signal, amplifies it, and allows it to be extended like 150ft and also has an amp switcher on it. I believe it’s called the JDI. But it’s more or less like a fancy DI box/Re-Amp box.
My church does this too. We put guitar amps in a home made box behind the stage to get the most authentic sound possible. We don't to it to the bass amps though.
Do you think you will ever do a video about how everything is setup and a little more insight on how everything goes when touring? This would be very cool to see how all the preparation is done
@@ElevationWorshipResources thank you so much. This will be very helpful because at my church, he have a lot of retreats and I have the opportunity to setup almost everything with audio and visuals and also play guitar. This would help us a lot for future events 😊
@@gabrielaples6942the anointing in the worshipper’s worship. When the worship team leads worship, they’re not performing. They’re simply coming before God and worshipping.
Sadly, the guitar pickups are not able to interact directly with the speakers cabinet due to the separation, thus you're getting way less expression and feel aka tone/vibe. Please Jesus save us from bad sound too....... though a very small deal if at all. Old school me Jesus!!!! Amen
Yeah man. I understand the isolation benefits. But gaaah I hate in ears. The sound straight from the amp is so much better for me while playing. it can feel so sterile. Maybe it does not affect sound but that's so much cable. Plus those amps are way to pretty to be relegated behind stage.
As someone actually considering becoming a Christian singer/musician, is this how all the tech gets set up? The amps are off stage, and I'm assuming those are mics in front? Why does the equipment get set up like this? I love guitar, and it sounds so clear I love the grittiness of this song. Always will be my all-time fav.❤
They do that to use real amps but keep the stage volume lower. Most players play modellers and none of that is necessary, not even talking about the cost of such thing.
I'm guessing that they are for at least 2 if not 3 guitars. Clearly there are 2 heard, So they could be linked together as a L and R. And, I'm completely speculating, but I'm guessing they run the lines back to the amp via something like an SGI box. That's what we use at the church I work at. We have amps in boxes backstage. Not quite the distance here but still probably 30- 50 feet away depending on where you are on stage. We use SGI's to convert to an XLR, run it all the way to a patchbay, and then the patchbay is routed to our 2 cabs that we have backstage. Right in front the amp there is another SGI that flips it back to 1/4". Long distance, minimal signal loss.
@@slothsoul6863 ohhhhh I see, no wonder there are some yellow boxes there! this is actually very helpful because I also play guitar in a church, however, the space on the stage is rather reduced, we have approximately 2 feet distance from the amp sooo the sounds is extremely distorted because of that, and the bassist and the pianist are also right next to me soooo that makes a lot of impact. although this is very helpful for the future! I appreciate you a lot! what are your recommendations about that?
@@F1Spaxe The SGIs that we use are from the brand Radial. They are top notch stuff. But for your current situation, obviously small stages can definitely have their difficulties. Are you using IEMs or wedge monitors? In either situation, having some sound baffles around the amp and then mic it from there may help some of that noisiness you are getting on stage from being in close proximity to the others. (Likewise with bass too)
@@F1Spaxe but certainly spaces do limit possibilities unfortunately. The building I’ve been playing in for 15+ years and now work at has about a 1300 person capacity. I run the music for the youth group and even that is still at least 180 kids, sometimes 200+ not including any leaders or security or anything. So our backstage area available for having amps is pretty generous. The amps we do have in the back are in sound baffle boxes. We place the amp in, close the lid on top, and it kills the sound like crazy. There’s a little air flow fan on the back of it to prevent overheating as well. Although, I will mention that for all our lead players, only me, and the head worship pastor prefer the amps. Every other player we have has their own amp sim. Whether it be a helix or the boss gt1000 or whatever. So they go straight into the PA. And I’m familiar with another church of similar size in my city that has done away with amps entirely, and just invested in a handful of Strymon Iridium’s as an amp sim. I’m ambivalent about the amp sim thing, but it is undeniably efficient and convenient. That may be a route to explore. The iridium, toneX are good. Plenty of options out there
@@slothsoul6863 Ohhhhhh I see! Well, in our church yes, the stage is very reduced. We have 2 feet away from the amps. But however, we do use IEMs and wedge monitors. We use both. However, only the bassist, pianist, and drummer use them.. I have not purchased them yet because we recently got the way to do it. Maybe like a month ago or so.. but I am relying on the wedge monitors to hear the others because since the sound is very saturated, I can’t really understand them. But, like you said, I do actually have a amp sim. I have the Boss GT-100 which I’m currently using with my Fender Champion 100. I run the amp sim straight into my actual amp. And then, the amp used to go to straight into a direct box and into the PA. But I am not using the direct box anymore because they took it to use it for the IEMs..
@@kingshanaman There are some benefits to isolating the sound. Quiet stage etc... no bleed for live albums bla bla. But yeah, It's pointless at this point just get some modeling boxes / software. I miss the days where amps were part of the show. In ear sound to me is so sterile. Couple of floor wedges and my amp 10' away is still my favorite.
It sounds better at FOH. Much easier to mix as there is less stage bleed getting into the guitar amp mics. They can also push more guitar through the PA rather than have the loud amps on stage. Makes for a cleaner, crisper mix.
I think that is so the microphones are not picking up other sounds in addition to the guitar… Then it can go to a mixing board and they can control the sound of each instrument individually
It also helps eliminate any sort of stage volume issues that could cause other mic problems such as lots of sounds bleeding into the other mics, such as previously stated.
While yes, it can help eliminate stage noise in the mics, they generally use the amps because certain amps can give you distinct sounds or effects that are used to fine tune the music. There are digital fx units/pedals to replicate it, but they’re not the same as a real amp. This is why some classic or famous guitar/bass amps can sell on the second hand market for more than they originally cost. If I’m not mistaken they can even switch which amp each guitar/bass is running through on each song. If they were just concerned about mic bleed, they could run the guitar directly into the stage box, which from experience is way faster and easier to setup. Edit: it also helps keep the stage cleaner
I’m pretty sure the electric guitarist for elevation used to use a hx stomp for amp modelers, but i guess now they have the privilege to run live amps like this it’s amazing
@@judecaudill Nothing wrong with it. It's just so much. (to me) I get it people paid their hard earned money and they want to put on the best experience for them. They're probably recording it too so I get it. I understand really I do. Theres probably a handful of great reasons to set it all up like this. Just me. just fee like amps off stage in ear monitors -again- to me, takes away from the more organic feel of being in the music and in this case in the worship. A lot of the bands I've seen at big venues like this seem to have amps on stage and when sitting close enough you can pick out the sound. I'm sure the bands I've have other things and iso cabs and all kids of stuff as well. There's peeps that have a gift to build these amazing systems and that's part of their talent for the Kingdom I love 'em for it. I love these guys and the song. But for my taste I love the simplicity of a stage mix, amps on stage a good FOH and house mix. I think you can still get amazing sound without all the multiple signal paths and (awesome as they may be) all the extras. Or maybe it's all just personal taste. Thx for asking. You're right a quick comment need some clarification. God bless you man!
@@sparkltone Ah, I see your standpoint. It's probably just cause since they are paying these engineers to do their show, they are gonna do it the best way they know how. I'd imagine isolating the amps would help prevent bleed into vocal mics. Not a sound pro so I'm not totally sure, everybody prefers different sound. I guess as long as they are glorifying God with all that they do than that's what really matters above everything else. God bless you too
