“There has been no Brexit disaster:” James O’Brien vs LBC caller 

It isn't it is worse

Yeah, we survived the war!

Yeah it went from: " Everything is going to be better" to "Well, the most important thing is sovereignty" to "It could have been a lot worse"

It is better. We now have regulatory autonomy where EU law previously had primacy (exc. NI), enhanced discretion over EU migration and a more robust opt out from EU federalism (when were British public ever directly consulted on Maastricht, Lisbon or Accession of new members). Economics is not the be all and end all. Of course if more people believe life would be better inside the EU as opposed to what we have now, and that view is democratically expressed, I will accept that.

@@TheOutsider840 🤣🤣🤣

Ask the creatives. Second biggest sector in the UK economy.

Royal Mail had automated custom forms that allowed easy custom declarations, a guy I work with had to close his own business down as they removed the option for this service, he contacted them and offered to pay to use it and they said it's just gone, no other option. It made exporting to many countries economically unviable for a small company with the endless hand filling in of repetitive long winded forms for the same item.

Sadly a lot of those industries people voted for Brexit because they “didn’t want someone in Brussels telling them what to grow” and I live in a farming community. What I don’t understand is WHY we cannot start to have new votes on rejoining the E.U so as soon as that door is opened we can go back. If the E.U falls apart and we all become independent autonomous states then we will be at huge risk of another war and a certain state invading Ukraine will swallow up half of the countries for breakfast. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS when you ask people to make a decision on the countries future who are not equipped to make any sort of logical or intelligent decision. You wouldn’t just allow people to drive cars without being taught and educated and then requiring an official test pass FIRST. So WHY do we allow anybody and everybody to vote and control the future of the country?? You should have to take an exam paper in order to vote imo.

@@garethtaylor1470 You can blame 'Call me Dave' and his idea to unify the Tory party for that vote

​@@daveturner4134thata more a comment on the state of the rest of the economy....

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Old folks having lived their whole life in the EU vote leave, when their grandkids want to remain ​@@geoffpegler4506

You're obviously not a lorry driver. And not importing tomatoes from Spain has made the air your children breathe cleaner.

Who cares.

@@user-ir5wq6db8e so where do we import them from know?

Freedom is worth it.

@@gameofender4463 Freedom from what, exactly?

@@gameofender4463 Freedom of what ?

@@mihohobaba Freedom to make our own decisions, rightly or wrongly without the EU trying to enforce us to copy them.

@@violoncelo1000 Freedom to have only people we voted in the U.K, legislate in the U.K.

Brilliant 😂

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This isn't cognitive dissonance he's wrong but he fully believes he's right, that's just being wrong, there's no dissonance here.

majority voted for this its obvious James and LBC viewers are minority moaners😂😂

Exactly. The first part there involves admitting that things didn't happen as they were 'predicted' and that maybe we should rethink some of it. Suits me.

because james kept interrupting, he plays his callers for fools.

@@roathripper yep, that must be it XD

@@roathripper Okay fine, so let's just listen to the caller and admit that there was lots which then later didn't happen. Then learn some lessons from it about what he could have done, and what we should do in the future.

​@@roathripperThis one is. Confirmation bias

*Dunning-Kruger effect, NPD (when it comes to Brexit), confirmation bias...Peter is a walking tissue of logical fallacies.*

I think it may even be his dimmer brother.

Peter the Artful Dodger of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Never a straight answer.

@@Captain_Kremmen hahaha perfect, love it

His names James

@jl-xs6ud The toxicity came from James. He always acts this way. Talks over his callers, does not allow them to get their point, be it right or wrong, across, then tries to claim the moral high ground. I’m not commenting on Brexit, I voted to remain, but James is the most odious man on radio. He thinks he is morally and intellectually superior to everyone, but is just the opposite.

How was this caller toxic? He tries to point out the fact that most of project fear projections never came to pass. But you remoaners don't like that, even nearly ten years later...

Would be interesting to see how many papers fell for it as an April fools day announcement… Would certainly highlight the double standards they employ

Time yet wait and see ….?

@@helentyrer3298 JRM says you have to wait *_FIFTY YEARS_* before seeing any Brexit benefit. is that what you mean "helen"? (you won't answer, of course. we all know you can't)

Give it time lol

That 4% is purely hypothetical. Where is your proof that the UK GDP is 4% lower than it would have been?

and he’s proud of it too😂😂😂

Convinced his own ignorance is inconsequential...

Ketchup is blue! Or at least it was before we joined the EU! Wait, was that passports?

Mum! Grandpa Pete's been putting Slush Puppy on his fish and chips again.

Rumour has it he’s still talking….

There was green tomato sauce for a short while

Gammon excellent Owen Jones uses that a lot and I’m disgusted at people using Eurononce Budgie Smuggler Bunnyboiler Totally Unnecessary.

Once you start down the derp path forever will it dominate your idiocy.

Lol. Someone trying to prove the other wrong by not talking fact. James never does that.

James is wrong going into the common market was the worst lie the war in Ukraine is a part of the lie

well James is and was wrong.he should admit that

This toasted brain suggested South Africa's Apartheid reconciliation as example for Tory and Labour to tell their wrongdoings.

@@ronny-lb1cr I think it was more for leave and remain (as there were people from both parties on both sides). But yeah, the purpose of truth & reconciliation is generally to uncover the truth and move on. I think he just wants to do the second of those.

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He’s swimming in Egypt.( or Paris. Take your pick)

New Forest is sometimes (and politically) a planet of its own 😬🤦🏼‍♂️🤷

@@highdownmartin He's 'out of the boat'

Surely that's in Egypt?

no majority voted for this its obvious James and LBC viewers are minority moaners😂😂

@@ravd8082 37.4% of the UK electorate voted to leave the EU.

@@powderedtoastfacekillah734 mass immigration broke Britain, not Brexit

@@e1239 austerity and brexit and people like you who were duped into voting against your own best interests broke Britain Not immigration

@@e1239 Peter? Is that you?

We had to close down our business, that employed 60 people, because of cheap imports from China brought in by America, with no protection from the EU. ( unlike the French wine makers) And because of new laws brought in by the EU we also had to pay the self employed salesmen an extortionate amount of money.

@@mick947 and how was that affected by brexit ?

@@michaelclayton5124 If you do not like how the EU did that, paying millions to self employed salesmen, even if they were not, before Brexit, the scandal would be tough luck. The EU will not let you revesrse it back even if you elected the parties to try. After Brexit, you can now elect politicians and parties that agree that was wrong, and thus can now change the law to stop that. It gives the House of Commons full control of UK law making, and Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland have that control in their own lands with in the UK in any issue that arises in your Realms. Before, the EU could over rule your elected leaders. Now they have no authority to do so.

@@chrissanders1027 The Force was always with Brexit, that is why you hate us.

The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am

No .

Hate is never acceptable. Learn to love and not hate. It’s a lot less exhausting!

OBrien wanted to have me and the unvaccinated put in camps complicit in the Draper Galloway Deception brings a Schill like Dom Jolly because he wouldn’t go near anyone that he had differing views to Dr Fauci Never Forget Never Forgive.

@@englishstark6100 So - you are a brexiter stiil in denail then?

Not anymore. I could feel sorry for the gullible during and shortly after the Brexit debacle but that time has long since passed.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing....

Classic Dunning-Kruger sufferer.

Dunning Kruger effect

Peter knows best"all I want to know when will I get richer instead of getting poorer since we left the EU.Peter" when will I get the Brexit" benefit.

It's not 'knowledge' per se. Simply talking points his mates down wetherspoons wholeheartedly agree with

With extra pineapple.

You can hear the pickled lard in his throat.

You guys are the problem....

​@@MyName-cw4yrWE'RE the problem for calling brexiteers out for their lies and denials? Can I enquire as to how you reached that conclusion? I'll put the kettle on.....

majority voted for this its obvious James and LBC viewers are minority moaners😂😂

Rely on the Forest Fairies.

Yeah but blue passports trumps all that.... That's what REALLY counts (innit!)

An enquiry into what? Two sides put forward arguments. All eligible people were able to vote and leave won. Where is the conspiracy?

​@@FletchersFunnies-fd8jpThe enquiry can start with the lies the Leave side told, and who was financing those lies.

​@@FletchersFunnies-fd8jp One side lied repeatedly. Votes were cast on those lies. That's illegal.

Remember politicians saying “we’ll still be in the single market”! Lying toads.

@@FletchersFunnies-fd8jp we could start by looking at the lies told by either side. We could look at any predictions which have proven to be VERY wrong and try and work out why. Do you not like things like that being investigated?

‘I got now the Spanish Passport’…… What Passport did you have when you were in the UK ?

Brexit was a partial success. Our politicians and institutions have blocked it from further success.

Or Brexit is a problem for half (or 48%) of people as they don't like losing

@@FletchersFunnies-fd8jp you’re absolutely right, we don’t like losing our standard of living. Which has greatly reduced since brexit.

@@jaypusha5554 Happened way before brexit, thats why we left

@@FletchersFunnies-fd8jpwe haven’t lost. We won the first referendum and lost the second. We should have a best out of three. I wonder who’d win that one 🤔

​@@BillyGoatScruff1000- lol, nice try 😂😂

The irony of a JOB listener saying that! You listen to the biggest bully and bigot on the radio...

Harsh but true 😅

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Don't brush all of us with the same mushrooms.

That's every LBC listener apart from the age

​@@Dynasty1818What age? What does this even mean?

The problem with these young people is that they have no life experience - those under 30 years of age should not be allowed to vote or indeed comment on any topic in my opinion

Daily mail readers

He probably watches GB News and reads The Daily Mail taking them seriously.

Buy it from Singapore on Thames, not that Brazilian River.

The damage was caused by our pro EU political establishment. If parliament was actually comprised of as many Eurosceptics as the electorate ( and we had a fit for purpose civil service) we would have got a much better deal. In fact, Brexit could have actually destroyed the EU which would be sensational

Unfortunately it's a characteristic of his personality that he cannot allow anyone to say that he is wrong about anything. He'll never change.

@@mark9748James did ask him what he thought it was that James had said wrongly.

@@leviathon2 Let’s be honest, James is crying tonight because the producer let this caller through.

Disagree, callers like this don't want to be held to account for the things they say so they are desperate to "move on" when it's not going their way.

​@mark9748 You want a one way conversation then?

And that is just James....

@@FletchersFunnies-fd8jp Wasn't aware that James phoned in his program.

@@FletchersFunnies-fd8jp And that is just James' moronic callers.

Yes sadly just makes it more polarised, it’s a shame all the Peters out there can’t open their eyes to the facts of what has happened.

Neither would have anything he had to say. How do I know? The droning-on, not engaging in conversation and fixating on a single word as any sort of proof compared to the other side's whoppers. That tells us that he was not interested in examining his own position and that he clearly expected the reconciliation to only happen on the opposite side.

@@blechtic Yeah, my point is that a strong rebuttal with a basic degree of civility would have enlightened listeners. This few minutes of bullying did not.

@@worldtraveller8604 Well, the initial strong rebuttal lead to the guy continuing to fixate on the point. He had plenty of chances to let it go and move on. He didn't take them. He could have simply said "I'll concede the point even though I think you're wrong". He did it to himself.

@@worldtraveller8604 Peter wasn't bullied, he was pretty aggressive and once he got going would NOT shut up for a second.

Is it? Nelson Mandela had no history of terrorism? Anti-aparthied 'activists' did no wrong whatsoever??

True that .

Then why do you listen to JOB muttering along to himself?

Remoaners claimed the whole country would be bankrupt by now, that house prices would have fallen by 30% etc etc.

@@HDSPKSRecords-gi1ob sources please - who said the country would be bankrupt

@andypc14 Really, I thought it was James who was all those things you accuse Peter of being. He is unable to have a civil conversation with anyone that he disagrees with. Giggling at a caller is both childish and provocative, as is not allowing his callers to finish their point, before telling them why, in his opinion, they are wrong. We, the listener, learnt nothing from that call, except James is a pathetic bully. If James is so confident in his beliefs, he should have allowed Peter to makes his points, before he corrected him.

You need to listen again and see how JOB runs this conversation out of town to avoid facing awkward truths. He uses all his usual bullying tactics.

@@HDSPKSRecords-gi1ob James relies on evidence not the ideological garbage written in the Mail - do you read the Daily Mail. Wiki refuse to use it as a source of the truth!!

@@HDSPKSRecords-gi1ob If asking someone for factual evidence of success rather than economic failure of Brexit is classified as bullying, your definition is off but seems curiously aligned with fabricated bile from the Daily Mail and mind of Paul Dacre

Lots of SMEs don’t even bother to do all the work needed for Rules of Origin, they find it easier to just pay the tariff.

@@RobinHarris-nf4yvit’s impossible to meet them in a lot of cases because they need either a full mass balance inventory system or completely segregated storage. Not many SMEs can afford to add two ish members of staff, or have a spare store room they weren’t using. (Not saying you said this, but addressing a common retort Leave voters give me that those not able to follow the rules are somehow incompetent or lazy for not having the means to handle all the rules of global trade)

​@@productjoe4069Important points, not said often enough.

The guy's big gotcha was one word. That he wouldn't let it go and move on to his supposedly more salient points implies that it was the best he had. Yes, JO'B has his flaws but we all know about them. So, if a caller has important points they want to get across, they should know better than to pick a fight with Jimmy over some minor detail and get to the meat of the matter.

And yet he still presents this show...worrying isn't it

@@DilbertWhitehead So witty. So courageous.

You'll be waiting forever.

@@TheStitchOutlands Hopefully better LATE than NEVER!

It cheered Peter up?

@@Prophet_Google Take in consideration that we left a bit more than 4 and a half years ago, and immediately had a global pandemic. The U.K. saved over £96 billion because if we were in the eu that would have been our contribution to the eu covid recovery budget. However here are some benefits. Ended free movement, uncontrolled immigration from eu, where every eu citizen had the right to access social services, healthcare, education, housing creating a strain on all the above and infrastructure. Restored democratic control over our lawmaking. Restored the UK Supreme Court as the final arbiter of the law that applies in the UK. Ended the acceptance of ID cards for most EU nationals travelling to the UK. No longer paying EU Budget contributions. £57 billion more for our NHS. Delivering eight Freeports in England and at least one Freeport in each of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

@@Prophet_Google Back in control of our own VAT rates. Since the referendum in 2016, the UK has grown faster than Germany, Italy, and Japan and at a similar rate to France. Our services exports are at a record-high of £472 billion and the IMF predicts that between 2024-2028 the UK will see the third fastest growth in the G7 - stronger than France, Germany and Japan.

For the non-Brits among us, what's a "gammon"?

​@@jacqdanieles It's a derogatory word for white patriots. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🇬🇧

@@muttley5958 thanks. I thought it was a ham leg 😄

@@muttley5958 lol "patriots".

'it is in your nature to destroy yourselves...'

We don't like liars and fools talking thanks

@@jeremymerrifield7244 I wouldn't know if he was lying as didn't hear what he had to say

Fact - the majority of comments support James!

He would have if he answered James's question.

Hey, I'm a remain voting labour member, I'm just saying it's annoying when guests/callers are talked over before they can even make a point to dispute

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Cry more

You can still travel without hindrance and retire I have many friends in France,Spain and Portugal that are retired....next

@beetroot133 Emphasis on already retired.

@@beetroot133 We're a third country now. You don't have freedom of movement and right to live anywhere in Europe. You now have to apply for a visa and do all the paperwork relevant to move to a foreign country. Straight up denial of the facts really doesn't count as an argument.

What problems?

@@georgebain5734 I hope that your reply was sarcasm not ignorance

The trusted that leave would debate facts , and not push a fiction..

" _What did the Remain Campaign get wrong ?_ " Most of them believed the UK would rejoin after another Referendum or a change or Government.

They thought everyone were middle class w⚓️ like themselves.

@@clario2178 Brilliant. Cos the working class don't need money? Have they converted to communism and I was in the Westminster bubble and missed it?

As the caller said, some people who supported remain, such as Osborne, aren't economists, and got it wrong. Osborne got lots of things wrong, but it doesn't prove the other side right.

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