@@JasonBrown-dd7dj Lets not forget he left us to real madrid to win champions league only for Gerrrad to win it by himself against one of the best teams in history!! Ac Milan had such a cheat team! Miracle of Istanbul 😍🥳❤
I thought I'd find this interview boring and that Michael would be dull. But he was disarmingly honest. This was an intriguing insight into someone who came across as heavily media-trained in his playing days.
He's an absolute spoofer though. Claims he called Brendan Rodgers to rejoin Liverpool before signing for United. He signed for United in 2009 and Brendan Rodgers didn't become Liverpool manager until 2012. Also, claims Brendan told them they wouldn't be signing him because they signed ''Robert Ngog'' (his real name is David Ngog btw) despite Ngog signing for Liverpool in 2008 the year before Owen joined United and 4 years before Brendan came to Liverpool. Some bullshitter LOL
Pisses me off that some supporters slag him off, he was a brilliant striker, badly needed now, never forget that fa cup he won for us,a proper big game player,pity he was injured so young
@@howwwwwyyyyy Then you just dont get it, he came through the system. How many times has he played against Utd singing about Burning scousers and Hillsborugh and the sun etc etc . The one at OT he got sent off on NY particularly toxic. When he was out injured hed talk about getting fit for ENgland not Liverpool. He was a little twat, still us and when hes yours you back him but then he goes to them? Fk him. Just as Id expect Utd fans to think about Ince. Youve got enough money ffs He chose to tarnish it no one else.
Total BS! It's nothing but former players showing their bitterness. Modern Prem players would tear them a new backside. Just one example, I'm not a fan of Maguire, but anyone who thinks Neil Ruddock is a better player is living in cloud cuckoo land.
@@alexeimarkowski1848sterling has over a 100 prem goals, he has skilled n ability more than most. He can finish. Plus he was England best player for a period. Pep wanted him too. one of the best while at man city he saved them many times. Are u mad??? Just a athlete ? ur mad or maybe hes too dark for u hmm
Regardless of how you feel or felt about him back then as a kid , you must admit this man sitting in front of you is what you imagine as grown assertive man. ❤
Michael Owen was a TOP player. Goal scoring machine. I had a poster of him on my wall as a kid, and also one of the reasons I became a LFC fan. If injuries didn’t slow him down, he would be right up there in terms of most goals etc. These kids will never know.
Remember what he was saying about modern day footballers? Saying they don't have to be good, they just need to be fitter and faster than everyone else. The man was never the same when he didn't have his pace 🤷🏻♂️
I've been a fan of Michael. I've laughed at memes of Michael. Just had to pause this for a second at 18 mins just after his "it's bollocks" analysis. This interview might be one of the best media showings he's ever done. Remarkable mentality and showing a real grounded understanding of life and the game. Kudos Simon. Hope the remaining hour is as good to listen to.
@user-tn8uu2cu8g You must be facing Petra then?...Did you burn all the original versions of the koran to end up with one based out of north Africa persuasion? Do you face Mecca or do you face the mid point between Mecca and Petra as was decided in Pakistan due to the confusion? Or do you choose to face the direction that Moroccan/Spanish mosks faced originally...which is, from their position, the line that runs in parallel to the line that runs from Petra to Mecca?...so somewhere through Africa. I hope you know this about your religion...... Also you don't sound like that was you....?.....You said "We invite you"......" I am Legion - for we are many" - Your faith is not personal - You are quite frankly offensive. Your religion is poison and in reality a crushing blow to humanity and freedom. Islam in the west is the disney version - In reality no1 in the west who isn't vulnerable or oppressed would buy the REAL Islam the koran presses - User is you name...user is your oppression.
Michael Owen was my first favourite player - I was 6 years old and Liverpool became my team because I was impressed by this man Michael Owen. I don't hate him for going to United... He deserved the Premier League. Outstanding footballer and I like him as a pundit too.
He had the highest Goals:Minutes ratio in the entire league that season if I'm not mistaken and was the clubs second highest goalscorer behind R9. 20 league starts, 16 off the bench. Averaged a goal just over every 1.5 matches. More than a respectable output by any standards. I compare his time at Madrid to that of someone like Julian Alvarez at Man City last season. Not the absolute out and out nailed down no.9 but a massively integral impact player in the squad who dips in and out of the starting lineup. Very very far from what would be considered a failure.
@@Starstar20241 I think Simon was saying "starts" Claiming he spent 40% of time on the bench. Well 26 starts out of 38 (not 39) is closer to 33%. Quite a difference.
Pre the bad injuries when he had that incredible pace he was one he best ever. Will always remember his goals against Argentina in 1998 and Arsenal in 2001 FA Cup Final.
It was the combination of speed and his finishing. There were a ton of speed merchants in PL History, Darius Vessel, Bellamy, Cisse, Walcott, Andy Johnson to name a few but none had that killer instinct in front of goal that Michael had. But his speed was so important to how he played that when that went he couldn't get into those positions he used to get in where he would run off the shoulder and no one was catching him, he didn't have that ability to isolate and beat the last defender like he once could.
One of the few Liverpool fans who doesn’t hold any grudge over his move to United. I didn’t like it, but I can understand it. Doesn’t diminish how I feel about him and his impact on my teenage years supporting LFC.
I hear what you say and I wish I felt the same but I don't. I don't begrudge him the move, it was logical based on his choices, but he has to accept the flak for doing it. I was at a event where Steven Gerrard was speaking and he said NO WAY would he have signed for Man U, no matter what the options were.
@@johngriffiths6742 yeah fair point but Chelsea aren’t Liverpool’s biggest rivals so… I wasn’t making the point of how loyal Gerrard was, just that he wouldn’t sign for our United
I was at Hillsborough in 98 when he scored a hat trick.. i don't even think he was 18 at the time... after the game all of us were saying well he's got to go to the world cup don't care how old he is... tremendous young talent...the kind that makes you go wow 0:50
im surprised at how often he is left of the list of greatest PL strikers and players in general.. People forget easily what a phenomenon player he was.. What a talent Imagine what he would cost now in his prime.
I have to say . Watching this podcast made me respect Michael Owen and like him a lot as a person. Always loved him as a player. And a very nice down to earth man 👍👍👍
What is there to respect? He is entitled and there is no way entitlement earns respect. He keeps saying how he used newcastle to go to liverpool and then says the fans were unfair to him.
This is the best episode so far. I love Michael Owen. I can listen to him for hours. A man of class, intelligence and humility. He was an unbelievable player.
Michael was an outstanding player and a decent bloke who was candid and balanced in his interview . Who was unfortunate with injuries, can’t help but feel he was over exposed at a young age because of his sheer raw talent.
Spot on ....rooney was lethal at 17/18 also ....unreal talent both them .... Owen pace and explosive burst ended up with him getting hamstring after hamstring injuries to a huge extent. ...was absolutely outrageous at world cup and his goal doesn't get credit it'd due .
@phil everyone knows that but he had the burst…. He was a child prodigy. Everyone knew he wpuld play for England when he was 10. Your argument is like saying zidane would have been average without his great first touch
People always make fun of Owen for being "cringe" or whatever, I think he's one of the few pundits who is genuine and actually has a personality. I don't care for his tactical analysis or anything of the sort but could listen to him tell stories, make observations about the sport and describe his experiences for hours. He's always good value for money on podcasts.
Owen was lethal. Especially is big games. Clinical, eager, driven, and great movement. His early liverpool career and whole England career were epic. Real Madrid days were so good, a resurgence. A slow start, but I loved watching him play in spain. Because of his Man United stint, it really takes the shine off his phenomenal career.
We have only ever had 6 winners in the UK of the Ballon Dor and he was the last. The current generation need to show him more respect, he was a fantastic player who would played for 3 of Europes biggest clubs.
No player not even Wayne Ronney has excited me bursting onto the scene the way he did! He just appeared invisible!! I had never seen anything remotely close to what he achieved at the age he was. Such a shame about his injury but what a player! He was a normal guy too remember playing at a snooker club in Deeside close to his home he would wait his turn no special privileges 🎱 huge respect for him (From a Tranmere fan)
Owen broke my heart as a Liverpool fan. He was my idol growing up. I had his LFC kit no.10 and his England kit no.20. I am from Cyprus so at that time everyone was a United fan because of Beckham, Giggs, Keane etc but I loved Owen and became a fan of Liverpool since 97-98. When he went to Utd I was so angry I gave away his shirts to charity.
If he hadn’t of been plagued with injuries he quite possibly would have gone down as the greatest English player of all time he really was that good. I’m 40 so I watched Michaels career first hand and he was frightening at his very best, almost unplayable.
My childhood hero! The reason I became the big liverpool fan I am today. It all started with him, so I’ll always be grateful and I always love this man. My dream is for him to get the recognition he deserves, he’s one of our greatest ever strikers.
@@Shivajaiswal9if owen was playing today not one single premiership team defence could handle him, you hear what rio ferdinand said? Not a level but levels above what you see today, im 46 years old, and no one in the premiership of today impresses me as much as owen did at liverpool, not even watching bellingham at madrid whos on fire impresses me as much as owen did at that age, he was lethal
@@megane230f1Owen was great at Liverpool. But if we had hindsight and knew he would be finished by 25/26. He wouldn't sell for more than 50mil in today's market. 18-20 he was great but still raw and developing, 21-23 was his prime, 24-26 he could still do good. 27 on the decline. 28- onwards he was finished. 2-3 years for a Prime Owen isn't worth half as much as Rooney, Shearer
@@megane230f1he was very good but not the best. People get carried away with pace. Haaland is good and rapid. But not the best striker in the premiership, let alone the world. Salah is streets ahead of him as a striker.
I've always liked Michael Owen. I've always admired how mentally strong he is having bounced back from so many injuries. That in itself takes a lot of resiliency. Also Michael's spell at Madrid wasn't the big failure its made out to be. Raul was almost too legendary to drop. Brazilian Ronaldo was probably the best striker of the last 10 years. Owen had the best strike rate in Spain at one point off the bench. Real Madrid at that time had sold Makelele, and Hierro had either retired or lost it. They couldn't defend. That's why they brought Graveson and Woodgate to try and protect the defense. Woodgate did well after scoring an own goal on his debut if I remember right. His problem was he was always injured. Madrid fans saw him as the best CB at the club at that time though, when fit. It doesn't sit well with me the disrespect Owen gets by fans. I see him as an iconic figure because of his England career and status. He's in the same category as Lineker and Shearer for me
That Madrid team were so bad at defending after Hierro retired and Makelele left. Carlos and Selgado were always bombing forward and their CB partnership of Pavon and Helguera were awful. and they had no protection because they didnt have a proper DM.
He gave us much to cheer about and many great moments as fans all those years ago. He’s just given us more without the football at his feet. I understand Michael Owen a lot more now off the pitch. Tell your dad, Crosby misses you all
I can see why MO was very successful, that kinda father he explained about is remarkable, I’m happy for him man , it’s crazy how much confidence and courage parents can insert into their son or daughter , that was the best part of this Interview ❤
Oh my god, he was unreal for 5-6yrs and amazingly confident in his playing days. Gutted when he left us but we then we went on to win in Istanbul that season. And he's right about footballers nowadays, they're just robotic physical specimens and not like back in the day. YNWA!!
I only started following football during the season he was at Madrid so missed his golden years but from the clips I've seen, his record and the reading up that I've done on him he's easily forgotten as times gone by as to just how brilliant he was in his first 5/6 years. People have short memories.
Loved Owen when I was growing up but he definitely comes across as willing to throw his grandma under the bus to save himself. I guess that's what some strikers need to thrive, that selfish quality. Once his powers were waining he understandably focused on earnings and himself more. I thought Simon let him off the hook on the Beckham sending off question and in my opinion he was simply willing to throw Beckham under the bus to sell books. That's why he couldn't really answer Simon's question about why he had animosity towards Beckham because I honestly don't think he did.
@@theramblingsofbilbotheerid3048 I thought he explained it well enough. He was spot on in his view of it in my opinion, and most of the other players would probably agree with Owen I would guess. Once time had passed, Imagine Beckham and Gary Neville talking about it, Gary would probably be of the opinion it was never a sending off, but would probably tell his mate he was stupid for kicking his leg out, Owen is just doing the same thing in public. Doubt he would put it in his book to generate sales. He is also spot on about some players in the EPL, they are not very good, and are only there for the reasons he states.
Newcastle fan here and i just want to put my perspective out there. When i was a kid, i adored Owen, i rember being 5 yesrs old and watching him play for England and was absoulty mind blown with his ability. Even as a Newcastle fan, i always tried to watch him play for Liverpool whenever i could because i was so awestruck by him as player. I never thought in a million years we could be in the running to sign him. So when it broke that he was signing for Newcastle i was over the moon. Me and my mates were so excited. The whole geordie nation was ecstatic and we gave him a trelmendous reception. He was showered in so much love and admiration when he was unveiled at St James park, it was a sensational moment. Now i want to make it clear, i dont doubt that he was professional during his time here. But i dont think he understands how much Newcastle fans were willing to take him into our hearts, when in reality he simply saw us as a steping stone in order to get back to Liverpool. Im not saying it makes him a terrible person, of course not ,he had his own priorities and personal circumstances to consider I get it. But he clearly doesnt understand how much it meant to us to sign him at the time. Especcially kids like me that idolised him.
@@jamdonut4021 he didn't in the season where they got relegated. He played plenty of matches that season, but underperformed and was club captain as well. With the way he speaks here too I think it's pretty clear he wasn't too worried when it came to the club getting relegated and knew he'd get a move elsewhere. Just the impression I get.
@superkristara to be fair mate you're quite right I shouldn't have spoken on behalf of all fans. I'll rephrase and say that a lot of us were very excited, that was certainly my perception at the time!
@@MrUtopianDellusionsI was excited too when he signed for us. The exact moment I thought he wasn't here for us was when he prioritised England when he hardly played football for us that season. He himself said, he had muscular injuries and knows when hes not 100%. I don't fault him for the injuries, I fault him for using us as a stepping stone, not giving us everything. He only came for the money. It was apparent to anyone who bothered to see his full stint at Newcastle, he wasn't bothered. When fit though, he was still a dam good footballer, but that almost never.
I'm a Liverpool fan and although I think he shouldn't have gone to Man Utd I do think he genuinely wanted to come back to Liverpool. Whether he should have left in the first place is another story. What I can say is however that he was a supreme player. For a 18 year old to keep out top, top strikers like Fowler, Sheringham, Cole, Les Ferdinand, Sutton, Dublin, Collymore speaks volumes about the animal this guy was. He was more electrifying than Rooney. There's a reason he was 2 years ahead of Gerrard despite being in same age bracket and even then Gerrard wasn't as freakish as Owen and took him a couple of years to bed in and become who he was, so Michael Owen was 4 years ahead of Gerrard. When Gerrard was bedding into the team in 2001 rotating with McAllister Owen was winning Ballon Dor's fml - my fellow Liverpool fans can feel aggrieved but cannot deny this guys freakish talent - he was the second best striker in the world after R9 and was ruined by injuries. Millennials will not understand how electric Owen was.
I think the whole England v. Liverpool thing was slightly different to how Carra saw it. It wasn't necessarily that he made his name for England, it was the suspicion - founded or not, it was certainly widely held - that Owen cared more about his England career than playing for Liverpool. And watching this video, I'm not sure there wasn't a little bit of truth to that. And as for the rest of it, Fowler connected with the fans in a way that Owen never did and never would, that's more about their respective personalities than it is anything else. But that didn't mean Owen wasn't appreciated.
@@chrispalmer7893 i'd agree with you. He was Liverpool's golden boy and was adored by Liverpool fans. We were proud to have Michael Owen within our ranks and classed him as a local lad notwithstanding he was born and bred in Cheshire.
still remember the night Owen did his hamstring - never the player he was before. He was my hero as a kid; devastating striker. I hated him when he went to united, and lesser so Madrid - have heard his story before on Carras podcast, and after all these years the wounds he caused my young teenage self have healed, and I do class him as a Liverpool Legend. Just a bit of a mad circumstance weren't it. Boss memories of the treble season with me dad on his shoulders, and Owen slotting the winner. Thats what makes you a legend in my opinion.
His timeline is way off on a lot of this. He also says Liverpool didn't re-sign him because they had Torres lined up. Torres signed a season later. He keeps mentioning Suarez who didn't sign for Liverpool until Owen's last year at United.
You are so right. Brazilian Ronaldo (Ronaldo Nazahrio) was the standard that everyone tried to reach - even to this day. He was the greatest striker the world has ever seen at his peak. He just as fast as Owen If not quicker. He very Strong. And his dribbling abilities were the same as Maradonna. And his s finishing was World-class. Remember he played in Serie A when they had the best ever defenders ever set in any world club league. And yet he was still the top scorer for Inter Milan
As a Caribbean person(Cayman Islands) following Newcastlle United from 1989,felt when Freddie Sheperd announced his signing i was sad,Souness did not want him ,came for the money and spend most time at treatment room and with his Horses. It is telling that none of his Clubs remember him Fondly, his powers of recovery to play for England were amazing😊
The funniest part is how he claims that the fans were unfair to him... Then keeps saying he went to newcastle so that he could go to liverpool. Best example of a whoreson in football
Didn’t think I’d find myself agreeing with Owen on many things but absolutely right about players being more athletes than footballers these days, plenty of examples of players who are lightning fast but have horrible first touches or technical ability playing at the highest level.
I somewhat disagree there. I think players like Vinnie Jones, Dean Blackwell, Carl Leaburn, John Fashanu would struggle now. Being hard and fit was often enough in that era. Now, less so. I was a Wimbledon fan in that era. Could add players like Carlton Palmer etc ...
@@nickpellatt I think you’re going back way too far, I think the Era Owen is referring to is the early 00s onwards from his time winning the ballon d’Or, if you look at the top wingers/strikers of his prime they were all fantastic technical footballers but aren’t the super quick athletes of today. Look at Brazilian Ronaldo, incredibly gifted technically but was always considered a bit chubby(Real Madrid days especially). I think the mid 00s is a period where we had the best technical players possibly ever, and had left the drinking culture behind but were pre the uber detailed sports science/laptop coach culture we have now. Nowadays we’re moving in a direction where pure physical attributes are the first scouted and the technical attributes can “come later”
Owen is completely correct about the standard not being as good today. There's hardly any pure footballers anymore. People will say, "ah nostalgia", but recency bias is also a thing. Give me Henry, Ronaldo, Scholes, Figo, Zidane, Maldini, Raul, Carlos, Seedorf, etc, - I could go on - over nearly any player around today.
Not sure that's right. It stands to reason that there are as many talented footballers in any era. But the difference nowadays is that the game is so heavily coached that the best players aren't just the most gifted, but the ones who can handle all the information. Whereas in Owen's era, it was more about pure footballing ability. It's just different. The supernaturally gifted players still exist, but if they can't absorb all the information they end up being sidelined a little more nowadays.
It's very frustrating. It was the secondary award at the time, but people talk as if he was recognised as the best player in the world that year. He wasn't, it was known as the European Player of The Year.
@@james_44 he deserved it that year anyway, yes better players but if you look at his stats and achievements that year it was a good shout between him and Raul at the time, and he scored winning goals against most of the top teams in Europe
@@jamdonut4021 He deserved to win what was the Europa League to the World Player of The Year's Champions League, yes. I can't remember who won World Player of The Year, but I suspect it was either Rivaldo or Zidane at that point.
You write as if the award was an equivalent of a Sunday league club man of the season. The Fifa award was a relatively new thing. The European footballer of the year had huge prestige in Europe and England.
@@leebush4053 It's not written like that at all. It's simply stating that the particular award wasn't given as a recognition of being the best player in the world. Simon Jordan suggests in this that it was. It's incorrect.
Brilliant striker, I've spent time with him, fantastic person, he ALWAYS did his best. Unfortunately the injuries he suffered were hard to beat from a very young age. Give the Man his due, he always did his best, and I'm a lifelong LFC supporter, 65 years old
What a great interview. Think Michael comes across extremely well on this and I agreed with pretty much everything he had to say. By far his best media performance to date
I think it's about time Simon recognizes that the question he asks every footballer as to whether they rate Gareth Southgate is both a regular feature and implanting a narrative! Great show as ever though and Michael Owen actually comes across a lot better than he usually does
I emulated my whole youth footballing life after watching Owen at Liverpool. The goal against Argentina was insane, supreme speed and finishing, a bullet striker. Dogged by injuries but what a player and in regards to the Ballon D'or he is underrated
Owen was a beast and not just for his skills. He had that top tier, teak tough mental strength that you only see from elite players, usually from a few elite footballing nations that are always in the mix in tournaments. That's what set him apart from others in the England squad. Nothing phased him. He ate up and spat out pressure.
1 of the youngest great players that England found in an LFC Red Shirt. No BS, just an open honest interview/ point of view from the man himself. I remember hearing/ seeing him break into LFC's 1st team and the explosion he had in his early career. What a shame it was blighted by the Injuries mentioned, always wanted to see him finish his career at LFC but sadly for whatever reason it never happened. I never believed all the BS Press around him it was just to sell a crap newspapers every week. A really well respected Man and still is today. If a young kid needed an Idol of how to be in life, you couldn't get much better. I see the similar traits in TAA (LFC no.66), to name 1 but a few.
Good interview. I started following the reds around 2012. Michael is one of those players that long time LFC supporters don’t speak of him much. I’ve learned and enjoyed this interview. YNWA. An amazing career by Michael. 👍 Simon.
Michael was one of my favourite players him and Gerrard was the best they had so much chemistry in my opinion definitely what a real nice fella 👏 bro 👏 💪💪💪👏👏👏
Owen's story on how he went to Manchester United - He spoke to Carra who he said Brendan Rodgers doesn't need him because they've just signed "Robert N'Gog"..... Firstly, he joined Man U in 2009 when the manager was Rafa Benitez, who had already signed David* N'Gog in 2008. Brendan joined Liverpool after Owen had already finished at Man United.... wtaf
He made the same mistake in a podcast with carragher and carragher correct him saying it was rafa in charge and not Brendan. He usually gets that wrong because he didn't actually directly speak to the manager. Doesn't mean he's lying
Owen signed for Man Utd in July 2009. It was Rafa Benitez in charge of Liverpool, not Brendan Rodgers. David N'gog (not Robert) signed in 2008, a year earlier. So it makes you wonder what else is bullshit about his account of this time as well. Whether he likes it or not, Owen's reputation among Liverpool fans is average at best. Some would go as far as to say they dislike him. Most are indifferent. A great, great player but not thought of particularly fondly from any club in his career.
Can forgive him for forgetting which manager was at Liverpool at the time. Owen only said he asked about chances of going, so could have done that in 2008.
Great player. Great interview. Lots of insight, so an education for me. Only saw Michael once live against Man U at the millennium stadium in the Community shield. He scored and he was quick. Certainly as fast as I've seen. I wish him, Simon and everyone well.
His time at Newcastle when he turned up to training in a helicopter was the season they were battling relegation and he was the club captain. Can you blame the Newcastle fans for being a bit miffed at him? He can call the Newcastle fans delusional all he likes, but most of them are not multi millionaire footballers on £120k a week. Most of them cannot afford to turn up to their work in luxury helicopters regardless of their family circumstances. For most of them a Saturday watching Newcastle United is the way they let their hair down at the end of a working week. A fair chunk of their wages goes on watching Newcastle United. The lack of awareness of Michael Owen when it comes to empathising with their finances and living standards compared to his is unreal, but he's not the only overpaid footballer guilty of that.
I'm a mackem and he makes me want to cringe violently. Jackie Milburn finished his shift at the pit ,got the train with the fans for 3 o'clock kick off on a Saturday. What a tit
Liked Michael Owen going through the VAR mistakes with Howard Webb this week, one of them was a Wolves one (obviously), and then of course the refs proceeded to ruin another week of Premier League football with their incompetence. Michael Owen really was a superstar if you grew up in the 90s, I remember him being all over place on ads, games (we used to have a Michael Owen ball and net set for school fares etc), and for a few years he was probably the joint best striker in the world alongside Ronaldo.
As a Newcastle fan, I don't hate him for his time on Tyneside. We clearly weren't his first choice, and he did use us as a stepping stone, so I'm not exactly happy about his time here. However, in the Shearer v Owen argument, I have to give the nod to Owen. His explanation makes sense, and Shearer has never given his side of the argument, suggesting to me that he has no argument.
Owen was my footballing hero growing up, seeing him and Beckham scoring for England at such keys moments was always brill. Everyone has lots of players they like, but Owen was one of only a select few who I've loved
Michael at Real Madrid made 45 appearances 26 starts 16 goals that’s a great record Simon should have him give him credit rather than criticise him Michael won’t fall into the trap and is more than a match for Simon
A great player who gave me some wonderful memories for Liverpool. A more than decent career at Real Madrid too. Forget Newcastle they didn't deserve him anyway. I'm glad he won a premiership medal at Manchester United. He's now making a successful life away from football good on him.
His facts are a bit off here....Brendan Rodgers didn't go to Liverpool until 2012, 3 years after he signed for Man Utd. "Robert N'Gog" (David) Signed a year prior....the man just lies through his teeth.
doubt its lies , seems pretty legit to me and hes mentioned the same things on previous podcasts over the years, its probably just confusing dates and players..probably meant borini not ngog, but fact was they didnt come back in for him after his injuries etc and had torres etc
