“You Have No Power” - Why Many Americans Are Rethinking College 

Both my children are in their mid 30s one has an accounting degree the other finance, and they have their own businesses and they are doing fantastic

What I'm not telling you is: I started working in the trades before I went to uni, and I've been doing it on the side for a long time because it's just so convenient for me and pays well. Now I'm basically a 'specialist' with a large network of clients. I went to uni to pursue a certain career, but as it turns out, the trades are better for me in virtually every way, because here I have serious bargaining power which, I believe, is essential to commanding a higher wage and career growth. Buying higher ed for yourself is essentially going long wages. It's much like buying (financing for most of us) a really strange annuity (or perpetuity, rather) whose income is greatly deferred, highly variable and dependent on factors outside of your control.

​@@ellendemarie3776 Yeah, it doesn't really matter what you do as long as you become exceptionally good at it. I think too many people went to college and developed a stigma towards trade work or literally anything that requires maintaining infrastructure.

@@ropori_piipo Mike Rowe has a great foundation where he gives scholarships to trade school. We need more people in the trades. They can open their own businesses and do very well.

Sounds like you didn’t apply yourself correctly

My nephew was ridiculed by friends when he opted to skip college and start working....they're all now graduating with debt and he's got himself a ROTH with $30,000 in it (4 years of contributions and gains), has enouigh for a hefty downpayment on his first home (and qualifies for first time homebuyer incentives), and owns his car outright. The skills he's gained working the last four years for others now will be what he uses to launch his own business next year - he's already laying the groundwork for that and building out his website. The kid is motivated, smart, and very money saavy.

@@keepcalmprepontell him to look into a cleaning business too as side hustle. He’s young, and the returns.. let me tell you!

@@keepcalmprepon and btw tell your nephew those are not friends. I never made fun of my boys for not going to school. It just wasn’t them, but they were my boys, I grew up with them, had birthday cakes with them and their families, I did not think for a second any less of them. Again tell your nephew, those are NOT friends. Oh btw one of my boys is union electrician makes $65 an hour and other drives a truck and started up with company when they were small, they’ve grown, so has his salary- 70-75k. Context we are 27 .

College-bound "kids" are so fucking lame. Ever see that meme with bob the electrician that went to trade school...cutting the power on the college grad who couldn't afford the bill?😂😂 NPC's. No real man wants to sit at a fucking desk.

His peers would rather go into massive debt for the "prestige" of college

Curious. What kind of work u end up doing and what u would have selected as an alternative? And do u think u could have got a home loan?

1999? You could have bought a starter home AND a factory program (slightly used) automobile. From 2000-2005, if you could fog a mirror, you could get a home loan with a very small down payment. Interest rates were low too. Hind sight.

Same here brother, University was the worst decision I ever made, a desperation play later in life, to try and get into the Ivory towers. It took 10 years before and 4 years after the deed working in trades to pay for it; I should have done literally anything else!

@@Albertalorian Did you get a real degree or a liberal arts degree?

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I paid for my university mistake in the trades, trades/CDL truck driving made my entire life possible. (screwups and all).

a doctors salary has a very wide range

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So he makes $250k a year?

he makes $600,000 a year? b/c that's the average anesthesiologist in the bay area

I did an audit of a hospital bill for a friend back in the 1980's. He was a retired USAF Master Sergeant, working as a body repairman in the body shop we worked at. He had the medical records as well as the bill. If something (a $2.00 charge for an aspirin, as an example) wasn't documented in the charts/records, we challenged. Saved the guy nearly $110,000.⁰⁰ by helping him out...

@@MagesseT1 Wow! That's crazy!

Did they drop the bill though because I went with my son and they literally put glue stitch on him and sent him home. In the ER for 15-20 minutes. I could’ve went to Wal - Mart.. but first time parent, scared… but 950 for that. I asked for itemized bill and it doesn’t do anything to lower cost. I fight and they say their not in charge of billing. You ever try to get in touch with the head of finance for a major hospital? Well good luck finding them lol

Now look at why they charge those prices: Ten or more illegals get free emergency service for every person that has insurance.

@@Hoodlum728 I know, live & learn, right? I don't remember about the bill I was referring to, but when I had surgery a couple of years ago, I asked again for an itemized bill. There was a charge on there that had no description, just a number. Before surgery, I prepaid because I saved $1800 out-of-pocket (something like that--a lot to me). NEVER DO THAT. I was told the bill would be ~35K (before insurance). When I saw my ins. statement, they had been billed over 8K less. If people aren't comparing the two, they could be overpaying. I ended up with my ins. co., hospital billing, & myself on the phone about the mystery chg. & the overcharge. The mystery was taken off. I didn't get a refund for the overcharge until I told the hospital the next phone call they got about the bill would be from my lawyer. It had been 3 mo., but after the lawyer threat, I had a check the next week. I don't even have a lawyer.

You are 100% correct.

Yes.

You dont find it odd these are the same people telling you that college is not worth it either? This idea that universities are indoctrinating students it's just not as simple as these people believe, I mean if it was true why would they waste so much time trying to convince us that it's what is happening?

My niece went from math and science as her favorite subjects to state college where she had trouble choosing a major. She finally majored in Women's Studies and Creative Writing, and then declared herself a man. He went for a Master's in therapy, then sat home doing nothing for 18 months before getting a job as a public school teacher trying to teach English to teenage illegal aliens with little ambition.

No, they showed her its a man's world.

no. the elite schools and pre-professional programs are still highly valuable

​@@RobertMJohnsonI guess you haven't heard about the falsified research Data scandal in harvard and Stanford. Not to mention the peer review scandal and the amount of nepotism that goes on which rewards who's favored not who is qualified

College, especially law and business, are valuable mostly for connections that you build.

@@8630733 But don’t you need a degree to be a lawyer, accountant, financial analyst and all those kinds of jobs?

@@RobertMJohnsongreat story Bruh needs dragons.

Yea if you are going to college you're seen as well respected. If you are doing trades you are seen as poor, dirty

No, high schools should prepare kids for college. We shouldn’t lower our standards to accommodate low performing students

​@@r-uu2qi If you don't someone says it's racist.

1950 3% went to college, in UK. Today 50%. about 90% of those kids can't do college level work. It should not be a surprise. Could they do medicine, or law? No, and the main reason is those are degrees where they expect you to actually learn most of the course material to a high standard. Getting 51% in history is no better. In many ways it should be harder. Medicine and law, are mechanics, to get a history (or whatever) degree only makes sense if you have a highly superior ability, and actually got something out of it that google couldn't give you. My dad ran a college, and he would get worried when the admissions dropped a few percentage points off the average, which meant enough kids wouldn't make it to 2nd year for it to really mater, as the big money was not first year courses. This was the best Uni in Canada, so the entry level was really high to start with.

You have to understand they don't want people to learn anything... even a doctor. They don't want a man or woman that understands the human body. They want a mindless fool that prescribes pills and has ridiculous student loans so they have to finance their whole lives with interest payments. Why would they want you to learn about money ? They don't want people to make any. They want to teach you nonsense like men can have babies or maybe Photosynthesis. They want you on the hamster wheel and never get off. To put you in dept before your life even starts.

Lol.. it was an indoctrination scheme 20 years ago also. This shit has been going on for my entire life. It's just you are now paying attention.

facts

Heart surgeons just have a piece of paper? 'tard.

Unless you're an engineer, lawyer, doctor, and you know, all of those other useful areas of study that Republican whiners have seem to have forgotten about.

@@johndrumpf9888 OK you listed 3 careers you need a degree for... so what about everyone else ? Less than 1% of the population are in those careers. What about the other 99% ? Why does a kid have to take on college debt for the average job? They don't ! It's just about getting money from them.

Prolly doesn't make the same though. I'm in the same boat. My company is pushing me to to back to school to make me marketable to higher ups. I'll get better work and double the pay. I'm a elec tech for EE no degree and only even there for a year. I guess I'll keep doing what I'm doing because it works

Preach it

Trade schools just lead to you getting exploited with labor that breaks your body over 20 to 30 years as well as a horrible work life balance. Unless unions become more prominent, the blue collar trades will keep shrinking.

I met a mobile key maker who has multiple key trucks, makes over 1 mil a year and has 8 houses recently after losing my key. If I knew this I would of started off as a key maker rather than my useless degree.

Not so fast. There are many degrees that are still relevant (nursing, compsci, stats, etc.). Don't be so quick to discard important institutions. STEM DEGREES/Jobs > TRADE SCHOOL/Jobs Do you want to roll out of bed, sit on a computer in your own home in air-conditioning, and make 100k or do you want to deal with brutal labor, work in summer heat, winter cold outside doing trade work for 100k. Sure, the mental labor/toil and stress in stem fields is usually much higher than in trades, but ill take that anyday over commuting and slaving on a construction site or fab shop. Im a former HVAC guy turned software engineer. There are many afordable high ROI STEM degrees available if you have the discinline to finish and apply yourself academically.

@@BiggestArmInWestLinnOregon there’s a few that work but other than that college is a joke

Weird. I went to a college and I came out with a STEM degree and am making a good living. Must have been a unique college.

Evangelicals??

@@rc8929Your case is different. You went into STEM. You guys aren’t focused on many things outside of that. If you’re outside of that then yes you will experience some form of indoctrination. I can say this from experience as someone who graduated in 2019. I myself had one class that was semi woke but not quite and that was a little after Trump got elected. Most of my classes were okay except for that one. I’m sure a lot has changed after 2020.

@@rc8929 100k isnt what it used to be. have you been able to buy a home?

@@trollpolice 100K is the new average wage there about when living in Toronto Canada. Our housing is all sorts of messed up.

My whole life growing up I was pushed to go to college. School had never really resonated with me in that way but I was basically forced to go. My dad didn’t give me a choice. Even my mom said to me how she thought I wasn’t really sold on college. Sadly kids will do things to even make their parents proud of them. My parents just weren’t informed at the time and thought college was the answer to a better life. But its not for everyone and its not guaranteed to give you a better live. Most people I know don’t even use their degree

It works if only the top 10% go and 2/3 flunk out. when 90% of teens attend and everyone passes, its just a participation trophy

​@@DG-mk7kd Honestly, it doesn't seem to matter much. The honours course (Software Engineering) I went to via an accredited Uni in the UK had a massive failure rate. A bachelor's degree is just a ticket to get your foot in the door or apply for work VISAs. Work experience is probably better if it's an either/or thing. Ideally, you want both, IF the jobs requiring the degree have a high average starting salary for fresh graduates. There is some value in the maths/computing heavy stuff, but even then, the value was the piece of paper I got from a course known for a relatively high dropout & failure rate. The actual knowledge I use on the job on a day-to-day basis is stuff I picked up _outside_ the course itself. Employers are getting savvier about this stuff and placing less and less value on a degree. Unless we're talking something like a STEM-related PhD from a well-known college, which seems to be what a bachelor's degree used to be before credential inflation (as far as industry employers are concerned). Very questionable return on value when you consider what "other stuff" you can do with that money and time. Unless the government foots the bill for _only_ that and not the "other stuff"...

That's part of the problem. Everyone starting a business not knowing business or what they want to sell. But they still pull loans. Put up a poor website offering something like coffee. Same coffee a million others are selling just a different name. That's just an example. Then ppl owe money from a young age for something that failed because they didn't have guidance.

30 years ago, I was speaking with a sales engineer who asked what I'd like to do next. I said, "I think I'd like to go to business school and start a business... He asked me, "How much is the tuition?" "Maybe $20K/year." I replied. He said, "Better idea... Take that $80K you were going to spend on that degree and just start a business. If you're seriously trying to start a business and do your due diligence, you'll learn way more and in a much shorter time frame than listening to someone pushing some outmoded 'Widget Factory' business model."

@@LysisZero Guess what? The faculty in college aren't any better. Those who can, do. Those who cannot, teach. You learn by doing, in this life. Most great businessmen didn't get there using college textbooks. they got to work on their dreams, and they figured it out just fine.

College is for smart people to use naive people as a conduit to get government money. Period.

Dang no wonder there's a teacher shortage

200k sounds like a whole lot compared to what I see online. Is there some kindof specialty "crane operation" job you do? The BLS says only 10% of crane operators make over $93,410 .

Depends in the type of crane

@@BiggestArmInWestLinnOregon yea I'm actually surprised you found 93k it's all messed up I can't speak for other states but in California the hourly wage for a crane operator through union is 60hr usually 12 hour shifts so the overtime and double time on Sundays really helps especially if you are working 7/12's like I was for months really adds up, I just got my Tower crane Cert paid by the Union but I would start out with the apprenticeship it's about 60% Top wage.

@@williamlima8489 that makes a whole lot of sense. The bls bases stats on jobs nationwide, so its probably not wrong you just make alot in CA and work various OT hours. Congrats on your success, you're killing it!

@@BiggestArmInWestLinnOregon are you also undefeated and undisputed?

A similar thing happened to me. I stopped going as a result of it. I just felt burned that they advised me to take some of these classes that no longer transferred over in the subsequent year.

my last straw was when i asked if id be charged if the financial aid didnt go through and i kept going to classes for 2 weeks. They said youll be fine. Then 2 weeks later when financial aid didnt get approved i cancel the classes. I get a bill in the mail for 1300 dollars for 2 weeks of class. i was like man FUCK THIS SCHOOL and stopped all together. The best decision i have made so far@@trademisconception9816

Congrats to your son! College is overrated 👍🏻

very good. Decades ago, I got a liberal arts college degree. Went to vo-tech for HVAC-R. Much better paying jobs came my way because of the learning curve. Tell sonny to get his Boiler Operators license too. More bases covered, employers love it.

@@chadhewitt5650 so when you need a doctor, you're going to the one who didn't attend college?

😊 and 😢

​@@RobertMJohnson• I wouldn't...I will go to 10 "bad" Dentists, before I'd go to one supposedly "good Doctor. They've tried to kill me since the day of my birth: dislocated my shoulder when I was born. Nicked an artery when I had my tonsils out at age 6. At 31, hysterectomy, without hormone replacement after taking uterus and half an ovary = 10 years of severe migraines followed. When the Coof hit, I knew (from school) about Tuskegee and thalidomide, and said, "NOPE, NO WAY, AND NO THANKS!" But that's just me : you do you!

masters degrees in the humanities are paid for/subsidized for the university, so she has no loans

if she finds a rich husband, she will be ok.

​@@amandafuriasse4683yes maybe for the masters. But undergrad is still a cost.

We need to get rid of useless degrees in college

@@thethinkingmansgame5050 like mbas?! MBAs carry the most debt and are the most likely to be delinquent on their loans

Accounting, finance, nursing, law, medical school, and many others are high ROI NON-Stem degrees to look into.

Sure if your colleges are crappy. Which seems to be typical these days. I would be very worried about taking arts at most colleges. But there are still good colleges out there, and if you are willing to put the work in, and your marks are in the top 3% it can be very worthwhile, financially, and practically. Look at this video. Is it STEM, are we learning to code? Most of what PBD gets into is stuff you learn in an arts degree. And as good as he is, the gaps show.

According to Malcolm Gladwell, there is a huge dropout rate in STEM, and having talked to HS and Uni people about it. It is intentional. First they want to clear out the dross who don't belong, by making it into a crazy fight, and they also are all about how great they are to have survived it. I found a lot of inconsistent and self indulgent behaviour that my kids were exposed to. They had all the scholarships, and depended on them, while their teachers couldn't count, and made bad exams. Very tough when you are depending on actual performance based measures for your tuition. Lots of suicides also.

Why not let them have the freedom to decide their own career?

I'm the son of an immigrant and I have a degree. We esteem college education very highly

Let your kid decide. Don’t be a dumb and selfish parent

Military. Dont waste the life of your kid. It will be sent to fight a war for the corrupt elites or Israel somewhere in the Near East

@@errolm8313 Everyone did; Everyone got a degree; The government screwed up the finances; and the degrees are being handed out to morons. So sure, could be good... Even you just refer to it as "a degree". The is a vast range as to what that means.

This applies to the .1 percent who can afford to send their kids off to Italy

You do know most college kids don't party right?

Sending daughters to college is a mistake. They need to be attached to a stable man while they're young.

I learned that a lot of people go to the Philippines for the same thing. $600 for an entire semester. I wish I had the knowledge and foresight to see this. It’s up to me as a parent to teach my children the options laid out for them.

That Italian culture doesn't work and stay home with their parents in a miserable economy!!

The elephant in the room that virtually nobody talks about is the loss of social status and mating opportunities. The research unequivocally states that women with a college degree do not want to date men without one. Trades aren't as great when you're approaching 40 and your body starts to break down. Hell, when I was getting my STEM degree we had many "leftover" students in my class - guys 30-40 years old who went back to finish their degree. The blue collar guys wanted to leave the trades, the white collar ones were sick of being denied raises and promotions.

@@kms_34234 I can see that. Maybe there is a "status" element to intelligence or at least the percieved intelligence of STEM graduate. There are dumb and brilliant people on both sides of the arguement. I believe any decent person can find a lifetime partner if they approach it organically and have reasonable social circles.

Bingo!

I think it should be illegal to ask for a degree when it doesn't apply, though it is hard to know when that would be since, even for dolts a degree probably ads something.

Then that's being irresponsible and not choosing a career before a college degree also community colleges are lot cheaper to attend than top 10 colleges in any state.

Couldn’t agree more. The idea that college should be your first move the SECOND u graduate HS is a mistake. College should be looked at as more of a last resort. Wait till your older like 20-25 if there something you want to actually pursue at a college.

Exactly what I did!

So, why do they keep doing what they're doing? Simple: Get that guaranteed, can't be dismissed loan money. The suckers won't find out until it's WAY too late. College has become a racket for people who claim to despise Capitalism to capitalize on the ignorance of well meaning, trusting kids and families. A.I. is going to be the Nail In The Coffin for the remaining 20%.

That income difference is more a reflection of the individual rather than the degree. Someone with the aptitude to finish a bachelor's degree in a true discipline (math, science, finance, etc) is likely someone who will do well regardless of a degree. A career in the skilled trades (carpentry, welding, plumbing, electrical) is usually more financially rewarding than a career that one would be qualified for with a degree in humanities, gender studies, etc. without all the debt. Not all college degrees are the same. A degree in mechanical engineering is far more valuable in the market place than a degree in "ethnic studies". That "study" you are quoting doesn't draw a distinction among the types of degrees. It puts all bachelor's degrees into a single bucket with the average lifetime earnings being skewed higher by the degrees with actual value such as STEM. College is not the best path for everyone, and not everyone is qualified to go to college. Unfortunately, once college became a "right", universities had to offer all of the useless degrees in fields of study that have little value in the market place just so everyone could potentially achieve a "degree". Of course, the universities benefit by charging an astronomical amount for the useless degree, hence you have graduates who can't pay back their loans. The question is: why are universities able to charge so much for a degree that is obviously not worth the price? Because of the false belief that a college degree means higher career earnings for everyone across the board. Not even remotely true.

​@@KayFabe87 Firstly, I'm not referring to a "study"; this information is readily accessible online and is consistent across regions and various subgroups (race, gender, etc.). This is data that is collected regularly as part of the US Bureau of Labor and Statistics, and several other institutions that observe demographic trends. Second, it seems like you're differentiating based on context and discipline. I don't disagree with your larger point that "it depends", since that is the case for nearly everything in the world. My point is that, if we are talking about the vast majority of people who are - by definition - average, then pursuing a degree is likely to be more beneficial to your annual income than working in a field that is predominantly comprised of high school graduates (which TEND to garner less income on average). Obviously discipline matters, but again, I was not speaking to that point. The national average and median across the board indicate that having a degree is associated with higher income, regardless of the discipline. We can get into the nuances if you'd like, but it seems moot since context always matters. Regardless, the stats are what they are. What people choose to do with it is up to them, and I fully support them as long as they hold themselves accountable for the consequences of their decisions.

I love how the youngsters fall for the "student loan forgiveness" line... Every. Single. Time! NOTHING IS "FREE" !

Exactly, well said

@@MagesseT1 unfortunately it’s the blue collar men earning hundreds of thousands of dollars a year keeping all this shit called the civilised world running that are paying for the worthless college graduates that need welfare in whatever’s being offered to them.

I have seen the exact same thing. It has reached a point where I refuse to hire anyone under the age of 35. Many kids right out of high school have that same victim mentality. The indoctrination has spread all the way down to K-12.

Problem is your HR department says otherwise, same with Elon Musk's.

I’ve had a long career in Silicon Valley, helping the enormous evolution of the Internet and AI. If I were to do it all over again, I’m not sure college is a slam dunk anymore. I know you mentioned that the GI bill will pay which is great. However, there’s your time and effort which are more valuable now. With leading edge technologies outpacing the university system…I see your ROI seriously in the red time wise. Yes even with technical degrees in computer science and EE. These college programs simply can’t keep up with the market. The other issue is that the same content is taught pretty much for free on the Internet and RU-vid. If I were you I’d assess: 1. Your career path. If it’s the DOD cybersecurity, then there’s more reason for the college pedigree (or more likelihood in its relevance) 2. Inventory your current skills at the moment. Take assessment tests in the effort to save class time. 3. Taking college certificate programs to engage in the job force as well as leveraging requirements for additional programs/ credits. We’ve become a tech society that demands change in features quickly. The university system is not tooled to react. Since 1980 the cost of living has increased 270%, yet costs of college has gone up 1200%. Your costs are nil but the administration fat system itself is what’s the concern.

@@1guitar12 Nailed it! Bottom line: get skills you can turn into Federal Reserve Notes.

@@1guitar12 Spot on assessment. However, there are certain tech universities with innovation centers that cater to private-sector partnerships. In such places, top undergrads do get exposed to specialized cutting-edge tech, IF they have the right mentors. I currently work in a B2B software company based in Switzerland. We do certain work in partnership with a company based out of a local (top) university's innovation park. I understand that some of the joint dev on their side is farmed out to students working under the tutelage of the lead developer (PhD/Professor) and head of that small company. The development work is very specialized/niche (digital authentication) and I would imagine that the head of that company has the advantages of picking from the cream of the crop and at relatively competitive costs. For certain, if I were to enter university in these times I would not go for a general degree, but specialize in an area of imminent growth/opportunity that I would have a passion/interest to pursue long-term...then go for MEANINGNFUL internships throughout my studies, to both gain specialized knowledge and build a network right out of the gate.

You can spend your GI Bill overseas. Go to Asia. Let the USA Pay for an overseas school. It's cheaper, better education and you get to see the world on Uncle Sam's dime.

Go into IT bro… the homie is making like 120k+ from home, doesn’t know coding, just sequel, and he’s border line retarded 😂

But think how enlightened you will be while stocking shelves or flipping burgers with that liberal arts degree. 😎

A liberal arts degree is a great minor to have or dual major. Liberal Arts degrees like Linguistics, for example are extremely powerful when paired with Machine Learning. Indeed, these days at elite schools, people are pairing machine learning with all kinds of artistic oriented degrees. Philosophy is also an outstanding mind sharping minor to have. The right wing in this country wants to stick its head in the sand. We can't have a world that's only vocation, and no art.

@@johndrumpf9888 😄 OMG. Sign me up for that.

liberal arts degree could be pre-law, pre-med, pre-nurse.

"A Fool and his money..."

Fancy Diploma.

It wasn't anywhere near that for the state school I went to. It was like $3,800 a semester and I had the Pell Grant. It was cheap.

Good for you. Presumably you are smart. University was not designed for the intellectually challenged masses that now attend.

How much do u make doing that and where do u work/live? Also how much did u spend on your education.

@@christosphotiou3896 100k is middle class. But if u are smart with your money u can be financially free sooner than a lot of ppl. Most ppl are very financial unintelligent. Why Kenya tho? Can’t imagine it’s very nice there?…

the USA military has changed for the worse as well. Too many politicians in uniform.

@@bradlong7941 she is at least learning to repair aircraft. That translates to a good civilian trade.

No it isn't. I'm also 51, and my kids are in college, and their college is pretty much exactly how mine was. The only difference is, there's more things being taught, and more options, but nothing prevents you from getting a STEM, Law, medical, or other hard-core degree. What's happening now is that the parents raising their kids, usually white parents (not Asians), tend to create lazy kids who want an easy degree, and that's why you see them going into Sociology at a "party school". I spent my youth with my grandfather who was an engineer, and we built things together. I did the same thing with my kids, and they have a passion for making. That translates into degrees that create things. The problem isn't the colleges, it's what kids that the Baby Boomers created who want an easy way out. Honestly, military is good for discipline and leadership, but terrible for useful skills, unless you think doing maintenance on weapons systems is going to get you a good job at a manufacturer. I had a friend who learned to repair radar systems in the Navy. When he got out, he couldn't get a job anywhere, except maintenance at the airport. By contrast, someone I know who went to college and took electrical and radio engineering, now works for the American branch of a Chinese design firm, and he *designs* the radar systems which are sold to the military. He makes 10x what my ex-Naval radar maintenance friend makes.

women in the military, christ almighty

@@johndrumpf9888the military does teach you useful skills. I got my LPN ( Licensed Practical Nurse) through the army. They paid me to go to AIT. MOS 68C. After one year at 20 years old I was a nurse. Made it much cheaper and easier to go from LPN to RN as well.

Business is the best route besides finance if going to school.

@@_Delta_P_ No its not and STEM isn't either. Its Doctor or Lawyer or pack it up and go home.

this is already starting to happen. I have had conversations with a few highschool ages kids leaving highschool and going to university outside the country because the quality is higher and a lot cheaper.

So be the brave whistleblower with proofs.

I did the same and was able to milk the government for well over 100k in funding and still have entitlements left to get more money. Disliked nearly every minute of the military ..but When I hear these issues I’m Thankful for it overall .

@@ljthirtyfiver Joining the Army in 1974 was the best thing I've ever done in my life.

There were so many people in college who on the first day of class when introducing themselves said their major was Environmental Science. So sad that so many people were conned by colleges & advisers.

@@JNYC-gb1pp She wanted to do wildlife biology or something for the department of wildlife, but you basically need 2 yrs work experience and fresh out of college you can only get that via volunteering basically. They don't tell you that in college lol.

​@@jesselost05420Interships are the new entry level job. IF you don't do interships before graduating college. That college degree is worthless to employers.

@@davidcarvajal5739 Yeah she did an internship, still has issues. Probably have to move from Oregon, which will not hurt my feelings LOL.

@@davidcarvajal5739 mind you the good internships are highly competitive and politics involved same as a highly coveted position in corporate America. It starts then.

Yeah it’s definitely to meet and network with those future leaders in your potential field of expertise

@@madmedic7840 devious 😂

That right blame your neighbors. Could not be anything but "those people" right? Divided and conquered, don't look up, you would not dare. Educated populous is required for a democracy. To remain free education for those working class who are able to make the grades. If only the wealthy possess the knowledge of the kings. You're fked!! You are the ignorant rabble they count on to take atvantage of, send your jobs over seas and open the borders. Lmfao You need educated or your done for. Anyone who tells you otherwise is not thinking of a democarcy.

Indentured Studentude...indentured serventude for life.

Accounting is actually useful and difficult to earn. Good for you.

Sanitation

Socialism