Petit truc que je n’ai pas compris, les trains à intérieur orange encore utilisés sur certaines lignes ne sont pas des mr-63? S’agit-il de deux modèles très similaires?
The train crew looked happy and delighted to see all of those rail enthusiasts. In NYC, transit workers will tell you that you can't record the trains.
Here in Toronto is much like a standard American city, even though its Canadian, it really appears like a different country in its own right over there.
I admire the cleanliness and efficiency of their transit system. If I had to pick a video showing a good way to run a metro society, here it is, but for learning the particulars of their overall societal interaction and economy, we could do that all over America. Nice video.
i'm not even from that place and i must've ridden in an mr-63 only like, twice in my whole life, yet... i dunno, something's sad about seeing them run for the last time, even 3 years later. even 52 years after they were delivered, they still looked timeless.
Great video! Absolutely awesome shot on the Montreal transportation system you got to admit their old subway train that's retiring looks 5 times beautiful then most of our NYC subway old cars and you see the rest of the city's train station's tracks system CLEAN! Very clean and very beautiful! why can't the MTA NYC do that?!
@@@crispinsugita9398 NYC subway is much larger than Montreal. No excuses for NYC subway being so dirty. But it is not as bad as it was in the late 60s thru the 80s...Not even close.
Amazing work!! I took this metro line (line 1) pretty much every single day throughout my high school years, i would get in at Radisson and go all the way to Lionel Groulx monday to friday, and from radisson to langelier on saturdays for my air cadets, although they looked in good shape they had a lot of problems towards the end.. thank you for doing this video, brings me back great memories!
Which other ones have them? This is slightly embarrassing, but when I first tried to take line 11, I stood there and waited for the doors to open. Once I noticed the handle I went to pull it, but the train started moving again before I could!
It's not worse than waiting for the bus doors to open in North America. Either you have to press a button, or worse, you have to literally manually push the doors! WTF
Thank you for sharing, a real flashback and a time warp for me growing up in Montreal and seeing this 50 years later and now settled in LA. To this day I can still smell the rubber tires and electrical current when those trains whizzed by while standing on the platform.
Nice video! As always. Did a great job showing details about the train, and its history. Still can't believe you came all the way up here to see that! Thanks for coming along, and thanks for the video
I have been on the MR-63s a few times. It's a very nice train. I never really knew much about the Montreal metro trains till a few months ago, I also never knew why some of the trains didn't have a door closing sound, now I do. I'm going to miss those trains.
OMG that's something awesome and special. Once again DJ I appreciate it and look how clean then stations look including then track which is a far cry from NYC Subway.
When this all started, I was a student at the then Montreal Institute of Tehnology, 200 Sherbreeoke St. W. I remember travelling from the Place des Arts stadium (the metro entrance, (one of them) was right at the back end of the then shops. That took me to Peel St. where I would walk down to windsor Station to get the commuter train to Baie d'Urfe. (then a 3/4 mile walk home.) At about the same era, I remember the woodworking teacher trying to teach as they were driving piles for the construction of Place des Arts. He had his challlenge cut out! That was the era when Montreal started to come alive in a more modern way!
I lived in NDG as a child so my first ride was on the more colourful MR-73. Once I left Vendome direction Henri-Bourassa, we'd pass Place St.-Henri and then we'd get off at Lionel-Groulx to go to Atwater. I thought it was really cool how the green line trains were colourless on the inside.
Je me demande si il vont faire la meme chose avec le mr73 pour son depart car jai remarquer que des que le mr63 est parti, le mr73 nexistais plus sur la ligne orange mais jai juste hate que le azur soit parti de la stm. A se moment la ne vais repenser au mr63
RIP MR63! My favorite train of the all the MR63s was the "MR71", a modified MR63 fitted with a current chopper on its propulsion system which served as a prototype for the later MR73 still being used today. It had the same chime than the MR73 but louder and a more electronic sound. They were the first being decommissioned when the MPM10 were commissioned .
I have lived near L'Assomption station between 2003 and 2010, and enjoyed my daily rides downtown to Place-des-Arts or McGill. I was happy that for all those years, the MR-63s were on the green line, while all other lines had the MR-73s. I don't know why, but I intimately prefferd the MR-63s and I felt a little something on the green line I couldn't feel elswhere. I don't know why, but the Green line has always been the line where STM runs its oldest cars. Even today, many MR-73s are still on the green line, while the orange line has only new ones. I remember during the 80s and most of the 90s, the MR-63s had simili-leather seats that the MR-73s had never had (I believe). At some point near 2000, they put all the white seats apparently to prevent vandalism (that was done to the old seats). 2 facts I noticed you did not mention: The MR-63s used to make a loud "Psssshhhhhh" as they start rolling, instead of the "Do-Do-Doooo" of the MR-73s, and surprisingly, the new AZUR trains also make a "Psssshhhh" but not as authentic as the one of the MR-63s (of course). Second thing is that I have always wondered why there was a 3-feet-or-so steel boxes with a wire-mesh on top (like some end doors you mentioned) in the place where an end seat would be. What were these boxes used for? Thanks for any info, and for the video itself that reminds me some great memories I hope I'll never forget...
I grew up riding those cars. The rubber wheels and the 3 pitched while like music when they took off. Took the bus from TMR down Jean Talon to get aboard.
I believe the subsequent model has the cute 3 note sound. "The three-note sound is produced by traction motor control equipment called a "current chopper", which is used to control and power the motors on the train in stages without incurring a power surge" Which is very sweet to hear! "Duuu Duuuuu Duuuuuuu!"
They should keep that train in tact and bring it out for service on special occasion, like in 2026 for the 60th anniversary. When the last MR-73 is retired I will have to drive to Montreal to ride it. That was my favourite model.
wow I grew up with these trainand loving that they have tires was always something I loved. Been visiting Montreal since I was a baby with my parents for the F1 race. last time I went in 2019 they had no doors anymore in between train cars. Also I remember them always opening the doors before the train completely stops lol
Wow im not from there but rip MR-63, However NYCTA fans the R32 is still holding the record of Oldest R-type car MR-63 1966-2018 R32 1964-PRESENT THE R32S ARE STILL LASTING STRONG EVEN AFTER 54 YEARS SEPTEMBER WILL MARK 54 YEARS FOR THE R32, THE R32 WILL BE WITH US FOR ANOTHER 4-5 YEARS
I rode the Metro on its inaugural day in October 1966. Films of the event can be found in RU-vid. Up until then, Montreal was in dire need of more efficient public transit and had fallen behind Toronto as its subway began service in 1954.
I remember before the STCUM rebuilt them in the early 90s, the seats were padded and black. I was there that day and I took my final photo at Laurier station.
1:03 I'm glad that one of the cars will be preserved at the museum in Delson! The retirement of these cars was celebrated in a similar way to the retirement of London Underground stock!
Also keep in mind the MR-63s got a major mid-life refurbishment in the early 1990s, so many components were about 25 years old upon retirement. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MR-63
I'll always remember these trains as a child. The orange line trains had colourful blue interiors while the green line had white, grey and black. The trains themselves were pretty much the same. It's a shame that they retired them. I hope that they keep them in reserve in case one of the new Bombardier trains goes down.
I was surprised to learn that although the trains were not air conditioned the Operator's cabs had air conditioning added when Operators were passing out from the heat! Those boxes with the air filters in them replacing a seat beside the door to the Operator's cab was the ac unit.
The original 1966 seats had black vinyl padding on them. In subsequent years, however, they were replaced by the all-plastic type seen in this video, presumably due to easier cleaning, wear and tear over the years, and their vulnerability to vandalism of the vinyl. In addition, the original advertisement panels above the windows and doors were unwisely covered by a transparent, flammable material similar to celluloid that caused a serious fire. The vertical grab-bars at the ends of each car were originally the single-rod type and not the triple grab-bars seen here.
@@paname514 Yep. There was the intention of renewing all the available stock but unfortunately, the amount of asbestos found in between the parts, made it a health hazard for the workers involved. So Santiago Metro decided to ask Alstom to built a newer train that could be used on the older lines. The NS-16 was mostly assembled in Chile, with parts coming from Brazil, Spain and France. To my knowledge, at least a full trainset will be donated to a train museum in Santiago and the rest of the stock will be either sold for scrap or preserved for use in case of an unusual high demand
Oh yes, I completely understand you like these trains. I personnally really like them, especially the old MP 59, MP 73 and the newer MP 89 (the NS-93 equivalent). The MP 89 has a great engine noise. I also like the MR-63 and MR-73 in Montréal.
Things to note: Not displayed here, there where MR-73 that was also retired the same year. The car have a distinct 3 notes playing when they start. This is the result of the 3 large resistors used to power the bogies. Harmonics generated those notes that became part of the STM publicity jingles. The braking system was relying on wooded shoes dipped in peanut oil which gave a unique smell when heated up by breaking. The "screen" mesh between cars was added later on after a terrible fire incident in 1971.
I went on the Montreal metro back in 2016 when my dad allowed me and my mom to come to Canada where he works. And he also sent us both to Montreal and we went on these train cars. But the car connectors in the sets looked pretty weird to me. Now these trains are being retired and that is just sad.
It's ok it's just sad. You can treat a train like you are it's family member. Listen, when a train retires, I feel sad too, especially if they're going to scrap them. I'll want at least one picture of it and with it before it retires.
I've never even been to Montreal and I cried a bit. I like machines, and I like the people that built them. I just get emotional as it represents all their hard work and achievement.
Although the MR-63 always sounded much older than the MR-73 i remember always liking them as a kid more idk what it was it felt more comfortable also the speakers were so much better it's amazing how bad the speakers are in the MR-73 although the door chimes are much louder than the mpm-10 that are soo weak. The day though that they are going to remove the MR-73 i think is going to be even more sad than loosing the MR-63 cause we will also loose the iconic old look of the original trains and the iconic motor starting sound that are now the door chimes.
The transport authority could have kept a whole trainset for special commemorative travels, such as the Paris Metro and Berlin U-Bahn have done (in Paris still keep old Sprague-Thomson trainsets due to this reason)
The composition of the head lamps is not Paris style. These look more like from the DÜWAG U2 cars, designed for the Frankfurt metro system... goo.gl/images/iSrLSW
The city of Montreal Quebec Canada should keep a couple sets now that there is plenty of spare parts now and including traction motors the most expensive part
That is a good idea to put a metal mesh screen in between cars for air circulation that must have helped to keep people cool in Toronto on TTC Subway cars could have tried this also since there was so many comments on non air-conditioned Subway cars and in winter seal the screen up to keep the heat in.
These Montreal metro cars don’t have air conditioning and even the mpm-10s cause u know how your subway is hot, they rather have the whole place balance out and air conditioning releases hot air
It doesn't look like it, but they are quite high maintenance. Plus they are trying to modernize the trains, and theres just so much you can do to improve a 50 years old train.
It's because they maintain them better, especially cosmetically. I remember being in NYC in 2002 and taking a subway. I looked around and thought "Wow we keep complaining about our 40+ year old stuff in Montreal, but here in NYC they have subway cars that are like 80 years old." Then I looked up at a plaque that said they were from the 1980s. Our subway cars looked clean an nice for 50+ years, does not mean they were not old underneath it all.
It's important to note that the Metro runs 100% underground (indoors) and that was a major reason why the MR-63's (and 73's for that matter) have lasted so long. The Azurs simply will not last that long; things just aren't built to last like that anymore.
NYC subway r32 already running for 54 years even Nankai 6000 series from japan already in service for 56 years and even no one are scrapped why mr-63 cannot do it
Travis Tam the MR-63 had to retire after 52 years because the train retains alot of obsolete parts which makes them hard to maintain them. Besides is not like we can call the company who made them to remake some parts because they no longer exist.
They've held up well as they never see the elements but are definitely long in the tooth. Some of the oldest rolling stock in North America. There is a faint ell of roasted peanuts from the brake shoes.
