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@mrlegodude96alt2
@mrlegodude96alt2 2 года назад
I like to imagine it was a scribble in a margin of some obscure math proof that people were too afraid to question and it just kept getting passed around
@empoleonmaster6709
@empoleonmaster6709 2 года назад
@@nokiasnakes it’s a spam bot report it and move on
@Koisheep
@Koisheep 2 года назад
it does look like someone was about to write the qed squate but then realised it's a proof by contradition lol
@aaroncruz9181
@aaroncruz9181 2 года назад
No stonks? :(
@JamesJamersonIsAGod
@JamesJamersonIsAGod 2 года назад
@@Koisheep right? It def gives me QED vibes
@chrstfer2452
@chrstfer2452 2 года назад
@@Koisheep i hate when i squick my qed squates
@jamesross1003
@jamesross1003 Год назад
It is a little known electrical engineering schematic symbol. It simply means a ground to neutral leg junction of a 3 phase circuit. The point where they come together. Where you might find this symbol is just before an earth ground symbol. It is discontinued now for the most part, but was used to denote a way to help with the radio noise a 3-phase circuit makes so as to not allow bleed over to shortwave radio, cb radio, uhf tv, ect. Now the noise is generally cancelled out with ferrite beads, shielding, and filters.
@stickyfox
@stickyfox 4 месяца назад
In RF systems, particularly below 30 MHz, an actual earth ground is still the only way to do it.
@jamesross1003
@jamesross1003 4 месяца назад
@@stickyfox Older receivers have this marking on the backside of the units.(from the 1950 to 1960s if I recall correctly). I have had in the past an old transatlantic unit that had this marking. Thanks for the reply.
@Blacksnowfanfics
@Blacksnowfanfics 4 месяца назад
No it's not discontinued it's commonly used on schematics even my predators motherboard schematics uses it
@jamesross1003
@jamesross1003 4 месяца назад
@@Blacksnowfanfics I think the one you are referring to is a bit different. The top of the one you refer to (if I am not mistaken and I could be) has a small triangle. It's close but not exactly the same. Check it please and if it is the same let us know and where it is located on the schematic. I am curious as this was and as far as I know still is used to show where a ferrite beaded cord or cable was called for. I would not think this would be hardwired into a motherboard but I guess if there is a lot of rf shielding needed maybe so. That is why I am curious as to where it is on the schematic.
@Skeldann
@Skeldann 3 месяца назад
So it's likely an artifact from when early computer engineers had to know about electrical theory to build & modify their machines.
@lampboy926
@lampboy926 Год назад
Similarly, there is "彁" This is a Japanese Kanji (Aka. Chinese character) but contains absolutly no meaning known. This is called "Yūrē Moji" or "Ghost Character" in Japan, which was quite more, but most of their origins were found eventually. In the end only this one letter "彁" left as mistery.
@NoName-zn1sb
@NoName-zn1sb Год назад
its
@sthwrth3250
@sthwrth3250 Год назад
@@NoName-zn1sb RIP, my man got executed mid sentence
@darkwing0o0rama
@darkwing0o0rama Год назад
Don’t comment because the Yūrē Moji kills you, I just read about it and now t
@280zjammer
@280zjammer Год назад
L
@kaironst2969
@kaironst2969 Год назад
@@darkwing0o0rama haha guys this is such a funny joke, you guys ca
@SkyQuakee
@SkyQuakee 2 года назад
wow this video was really ⍼ i especially liked the part where hai explains why ⍼ is still a unicode character ⍼ video ⍼ /10
@xNiDrOx
@xNiDrOx 2 года назад
whats the ascii code?
@manuelbonet
@manuelbonet 2 года назад
@@xNiDrOx It's not part of ASCII, its Unicode code point is U+237C
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 2 года назад
I'm totally ⍼ed
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 2 года назад
@@xNiDrOx 🤣 Good one!
@equilibrum999
@equilibrum999 2 года назад
yes it was very :angzarr:
@JackSalzman
@JackSalzman 2 года назад
I always thought it was a testing character, used to determine if the computer ran Unicode, because it was impossible to confuse it with any other known character at the time
@labrynianrebel
@labrynianrebel 2 года назад
Like fake towns on maps.
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 2 года назад
GAGAGAGAGAGA!!! I want to cut my toenails... NEVER! I am the feet RU-vidr. Thanks for being a fan, dear jack
@Smittel
@Smittel 2 года назад
what the fuck is going on in these replies
@jamesodonnell8290
@jamesodonnell8290 2 года назад
@@Smittel The "finally it is here" bots pop up everywhere on RU-vid every week or 2. Random bots then come in and say utterly bizarre things, and don't get reported due to the sheer number of finally bots. That makes the random bots look more like legit accounts, meaning they can be used for a lot of things like view farming or boosting.
@HomelessPank
@HomelessPank 2 года назад
so no comment in reply to this comment really means anything. I'll draw a line _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
@J.DeLaPoer
@J.DeLaPoer 2 года назад
Its the symbol for electrical load on a circuit. I haven’t seen it in like 30 years, but there you go. I wasn’t aware it was a proprietary thing, but it may be a Swiss/German standard not used elsewhere.
@aquawoelfly
@aquawoelfly 2 года назад
😲
@Aligartornator13
@Aligartornator13 2 года назад
Could you elaborate further? I could probably find a source if you know a certain field/situation where this was used... (am from Germany and have access to uni libraries)
@talkysassis
@talkysassis 2 года назад
@@Aligartornator13 If it's a symbol for electrical loads, then you may find something in old metro stations or distributions of the network with high voltage.
@Karl_Kampfwagen
@Karl_Kampfwagen 2 года назад
It usually means that the system is Grounded for High Voltage on that path, such as Lightning or other surges.
@martinhorner642
@martinhorner642 2 года назад
I actually believe this. I'm not sure why.
@rrobz3948
@rrobz3948 4 месяца назад
This video needs an update. If it hasn't been posted yet (there are a crapton of comments and could only scan so much), the source of this character that apparently led to its incorporation into ISO/IEC TR 9573-13 is a 21 page insert appended to a typeface catalogue from Monotype Corp. Ltd., entitled "List of mathematical characters" (1972), where the symbol was designated with the matrix serial number S16139. The whole AFII thing was a red herring.
@Alex-qf1pm
@Alex-qf1pm 3 месяца назад
But what does it mean?
@bobburns811
@bobburns811 5 месяцев назад
As "Manager of Text and Imaging Systems" at Amiga, I was amused to see something I did 40 years ago. I wondered if your example at 1:38 showed glyphs for the same hex character, but those shown for IBM/Mac/Amiga would have been encoded 9A/8B/E7. I offer: displaying E5 on all three would yield σ/Â/å. Unicode was a great but we weren't ready for all the places 16-bit characters broke things, especially as there was only 256 KB of RAM 🤯
@warrenporter7264
@warrenporter7264 2 года назад
In meteorology, we have symbols for denoting surface weather observations. ☇ means lightning and ☈ means thunderstorm. Maybe ⍼ was a corruption of one the thunderstorm one?
@Sanguivore
@Sanguivore 2 года назад
Really great idea!
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 2 года назад
Underwater thunderstorm! 😁
@ArkienII
@ArkienII 2 года назад
⍼ reminds me of lightning rod grounding scheme (could be any electrical grounding too)
@kraklakvakve
@kraklakvakve 2 года назад
@@harriehausenman8623 Understorm?
@mikaoleander
@mikaoleander 2 года назад
is there also a meteorological symbol for "very very frightening"?
@anzahanifathallah
@anzahanifathallah 2 года назад
according to XKCD #2606, the character is a symbol for Larry Potter, so that's what i'm going with. the same comic also helpfully pointed out that ⩼ means "confused alligator", ⭈ means "snakes over there", and ⨓ means "integral that avoids a bee on the whiteboard"
@MinnesotaExpat
@MinnesotaExpat 2 года назад
I am shocked it took me this much scrolling to find an XKCD reference.
@anzahanifathallah
@anzahanifathallah 2 года назад
@@MinnesotaExpat i'm even more shocked that the video doesn't have an XKCD reference, given the comic has been out for like a week or two now.
@PRIMEVAL543
@PRIMEVAL543 2 года назад
Wait, did u really mean Larry Potter? I never heard of that and reviews are terrible.... wait... is it a lightning over L??? WTF?????????????
@MoonCowGaming
@MoonCowGaming 2 года назад
@@anzahanifathallah because most people done give a care in the world about some bad comic book.
@victordonchenko4837
@victordonchenko4837 2 года назад
@@MoonCowGaming comic book lmao. You clearly don't know what xkcd is or how popular it is in scientific/engineering circles...
@pyglik2296
@pyglik2296 Год назад
The thing about The Unicode Consortium is that they do not care what do the symbols mean. That's why they name characters like Upper Right Block Diagonal Lower Middle To Lower Right and not simply Lower Left Part Of A Larger Shape. They describe the look of a character and not its use. And if symbol exists and someone had used it, they add it in.
@gwalla
@gwalla 4 месяца назад
That's not quite true. They just assign names and properties to character codes, but the actual appearance is left up to fonts. The code charts do include pictures, but they aren't definitive. Things like the box drawing characters and block elements have names like UPPER RIGHT BLOCK DIAGONAL LOWER MIDDLE TO LOWER RIGHT (Unicode names are officially in ALLCAPS for some reason) because their shape *is* their meaning. This actually causes some problems with emoji, which are generally chosen based on their graphical looks, but may look somewhat different to a recipient, leading to confusion. This is especially common with the facial expression emoticons: one example is the notorious Samsung Pervert Grimace.
@joemck85
@joemck85 4 месяца назад
There's a whole lot of "block" characters in Unicode, as well as in the proprietary character sets used by various vintage computers. On the old computers they came from, they were used to draw pictures in text mode. It was a way you could make primitive pictures on a computer that didn't have a graphics mode. Or maybe you didn't want to enter graphics mode because it was lower resolution than text mode and you just wanted to draw a distinctive frame around your text box and graphics mode would make any text you draw ugly and blocky. So, it isn't a specific part of a larger picture, it's a building block you can use many different ways. You might put a bunch of UPPER RIGHT BLOCK DIAGONAL LOWER MIDDLE TO LOWER RIGHT in a row to make a saw blade 🭓🭓🭓🭓🭓🭓🭓🭓. Or you might use one of them to make a smooth transition from a bold horizontal line made up of UPPER HALF BLOCK, to an even thicker horizontal line made of FULL BLOCK ▀▀▀▀▀🭓█████. (No clue whether either of these will look nice, my Windows 10 doesn't have 🭓 in a font Chrome cares to use on RU-vid so I just get a rectangle with an X in it. Edit: Neither does my Android phone. I'm beginning to think this character isn't actually implemented on anything and is more of a placeholder to be used by a one-off font to be packed in with an emulator for whatever retro computer it was on.)
@Megalomaniakaal
@Megalomaniakaal 3 месяца назад
@@gwalla ...the what?
@MrRosco
@MrRosco 5 месяцев назад
The symbol ⍼ is known as the "Z notation input delimiter." It's used in formal methods like the Z notation for specifying and designing computer systems to mark the beginning and end of input.
@mwhearn1
@mwhearn1 3 месяца назад
Angzarr is now the name of my Big Bad Evil Guy in the DND campaign I'm running. And he comes with his own symbol too. Thanks Half As Interesting.
@andimcc6131
@andimcc6131 2 года назад
Decent video, there's one thing about Unicode I think is important to understand to understand why this wasn't just allowed to happen, but *had* to happen. The goal of Unicode was to replace *every* previously existing character encoding standard. That means a core rule of Unicode is that it must support "round-trip conversion" with every older standard. You must be able to convert a document in a previous standard into unicode, and then back again to the previous standard, and the final document must be unchanged. So for example "one dot leader" (․) might be in practice exactly the same as a period (.), but Unicode has to give them separate characters, because in XCCS (the Xerox Character Code Standard from 1980) they were separate characters, so if Unicode collapsed them both into period then converting an XCCS document containing one dot leaders to unicode and back would result in the one dot leaders being changed to periods. And if there was a risk that converting an XCCS document to Unicode might damage (alter) the document, then that might give people an incentive to keep around documents in XCCS, thus defeating the goal of Unicode to be the one and only world standard. This roundtrip rule is why, if an ISO standard ever contained a character simply by accident (like ⍼), Unicode is *not allowed* to correct that accident. The roundtrip conversion requirement is also part of why Unicode contains about twenty different characters for a space (at least one of which is completely redundant with another space character) and, in the Arabic Presentation Forms-A block, a prayer ("﷽" -- that is one character right there, codepoint 65021, it's called the Basmala and it's a blessing common in the Muslim world to open prayers or in some places legal documents).
@bachaddict
@bachaddict 2 года назад
thanks for the background info!
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx 2 года назад
@@bachaddict of course it'd contain a prayer that every Muslim is obligated to say everytime the prophet's name is mentiond. It's also why you have №: short for no. Which is short for "number" ±: short for + or - which is either short for "plus or minus" or short for "positive or negative" §: short for "section" You could type all of these out as statements but writers typically write them as if they're one character, and so do typist when they type them.
@TurboZarya
@TurboZarya 2 года назад
@@Stevie-J idc I liked the extra info and breakdown
@Terri_MacKay
@Terri_MacKay 2 года назад
Thanks for explaining the "round trip rule". With Unicode having to adhere to that rule, it makes sense that the character may have been an error, and is now part of Unicode forever.
@edenvadrouille
@edenvadrouille 2 года назад
Great explanation!
@sundhaug92
@sundhaug92 2 года назад
This is actually not the only character in Unicode with no known meaning. Because Unicode intends to have an encoding for any script ever used, it also includes stuff like the Linear A script used by the Minoans 1900 BC. Linear A has yet to be translated.
@JOAOPENICHE
@JOAOPENICHE 2 года назад
Nice
@sundhaug92
@sundhaug92 2 года назад
@@JOAOPENICHE Speaking of "nice". Since unicode includes Egyptian hieroglyphs, and some Egyptian hieroglyphs represent genitalia, it includes symbols for genitalia
@danielk2055
@danielk2055 2 года назад
@@sundhaug92 Nice 𓂺
@DrToonhattan
@DrToonhattan 2 года назад
@@sundhaug92 Well it's good to know that the ancient Minoans and ancient Egyptians will be able to send emails to each other.
@themilkman6969
@themilkman6969 2 года назад
As well as the Voynich manuscript
@howtodrawwithpaint4648
@howtodrawwithpaint4648 5 месяцев назад
Unicode Character “⍼” (U+237C) Name: Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow Unicode Version: 3.2 (March 2002) Block: Miscellaneous Technical, U+2300 - U+23FF Plane: Basic Multilingual Plane, U+0000 - U+FFFF Script: Code for undetermined script (Zyyy) Category: Math Symbol (Sm) Bidirectional Class: Other Neutral (ON) Combining Class: Not Reordered (0) Character is Mirrored: No HTML Entity: ⍼ ⍼ ⍼ UTF-8 Encoding: 0xE2 0x8D 0xBC UTF-16 Encoding: 0x237C UTF-32 Encoding: 0x0000237C
@carlgomberg
@carlgomberg Год назад
At 0:40 there's a version with a rounded "lightning bolt" that looks like a sine wave going up the y-axis. Taken that way, this symbol could represent a rotated "right hand rule" showing the moving charge (sine/triangle AC waveform on y-axis), the magnetic field line (straight x-axis), and the magnetic force (vector/arrow on z-axis).
@HenryBloggit
@HenryBloggit 2 года назад
Half as Interesting single-handedly keeping the stock footage industry alive.
@rjtimmerman2861
@rjtimmerman2861 Год назад
Together with Thoughty2
@itsFnD
@itsFnD Год назад
Also one youtuber called IGoByLotsOfNames
@bilge677
@bilge677 Год назад
@@itsFnD an igblon viewer on a half as interesting video? weird coincidence
@PotatoeSnow
@PotatoeSnow 3 месяца назад
Who ever thought people would enjoy spending 5 minutes watching c-tier acting footage that belongs in a boring work place video.
@Soupie62
@Soupie62 Год назад
I am reminded of the stories about Van Halen's contract, which specifies no browm M&Ms. A quick look lets them determine if all fine print of the contract has been read. This could be a Unicode version of that check.
@tomkerruish2982
@tomkerruish2982 3 месяца назад
I've read it's because their shows involved pyrotechnics, performers being lifted with harnesses, and other potentially hazardous procedures. They wanted to know if the local crews actually read all the safety instructions.
@KidNasaYT
@KidNasaYT 10 месяцев назад
This character “‽” is called Interrobang, the code (unicode) is U+203D and the html is ‽
@Alex_Deam
@Alex_Deam 2 года назад
2:36 My fave Unicode fact is that the Unicode Consortium is all those tech companies plus, randomly, Oman's Ministry of Endowments and Religious Affairs
@iwatchwithnoads7480
@iwatchwithnoads7480 2 года назад
A lot of Islamic phrases are repeated a lot and unicode makes life easier to write them quickly. I guess Oman was the first country to bring this up to the committee
@Nalehw
@Nalehw 2 года назад
I guess it makes sense to include some cultural organisations from different countries around the world (since all the tech corps are going to have a very American focus), but Oman specifically? And JUST Oman? That's weird!
@tanithrosenbaum
@tanithrosenbaum 2 года назад
@@Nalehw It's probably so uncontroversial that the other islamic countries are happy to let one country do the work (and foot the bill for committee meetings etc)
@LaCriaturaDelMar
@LaCriaturaDelMar 2 года назад
@@iwatchwithnoads7480 okay, but what about the endowments?
@kim2894
@kim2894 2 года назад
@@tanithrosenbaum it's also a relatively neutral Arab state with even a separate Islamic school than the Sunni and Shias, so i guess they are more than happy to let Oman officiate all the shortforms.
@SuperSmashDolls
@SuperSmashDolls 2 года назад
Fun fact: this isn't even the only meaningless character in Unicode. Japanese has infamous "ghost characters" (幽霊文字 yuurei moji) that exist purely because Japan's standards bodies made a bunch of typos when standardizing Shift-JIS. That got wrapped up into Unicode because Unicode has a standing policy of accepting pretty much anything that existed in an already standardized character set (which is also part of the reason why we have emoji).
@equilibrum999
@equilibrum999 2 года назад
but we know these yuurei wenzi origin, that it was an error
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx 2 года назад
@@micahmeneyerji I can't tell the difference between the last two. Is it less than 0.5dp or something?
@donaldfrankcheadlejr.1244
@donaldfrankcheadlejr.1244 2 года назад
@@xXJ4FARGAMERXx some of them are just literally the same
@hbowman108
@hbowman108 2 года назад
Maybe it's presence and absence of a zero width space?
@Maldito011316
@Maldito011316 2 года назад
@@xXJ4FARGAMERXx RU-vid filters some of it
@regulate.artificer_g23.mdctlsk
The Angzar is truly one of the Unicode characters of all time!
@AppliedCryogenics
@AppliedCryogenics 4 месяца назад
Looks like a schematic symbol for a lightning rod to me. Current traveling towards ground. I think that lends creedence to the other gentlemen's post saying that it is a symbol for electrical load on a circuit, of which a lighting rod is a specific case.
@mrmimeisfunny
@mrmimeisfunny 2 года назад
2:46 It's actually added for Teletext compatibility, not Apple II compatibility. Teletext was a way for analog broadcasters to broadcast text.
@Minecraftzocker135
@Minecraftzocker135 2 года назад
I like that you explain what teletext was because young people don't know anymore while my mom still uses it to this day
@MetallicMutalisk
@MetallicMutalisk 2 года назад
teletext still exists
@99temporal
@99temporal 2 года назад
@@Minecraftzocker135 what does she use it for?
@Minecraftzocker135
@Minecraftzocker135 2 года назад
@@99temporal mostly time I think. She uses analoge clocks and they tend to run dry at some point
@TheStrongestBaka
@TheStrongestBaka 2 года назад
I guess teletext is still the best way to look up a weather forecast if you somehow can't go online at home, maybe?
@Shinigami906
@Shinigami906 2 года назад
I would guess that ⍼ represents "exiting or breaking a known system" - something used to describe that an element cannot be used or transcends the understanding of a system that it's attempting to operate in. It could be in maths, physics, programming, philosophy, etc.
@Cau_No
@Cau_No 2 года назад
That would be a "boundary break" …?
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 2 года назад
that was my interpretation of it as well.
@Villagerslime
@Villagerslime 2 года назад
@someweeb3650
@someweeb3650 2 года назад
I love that meaning, this is now what I'll say to anyone that asks what it means when it's a tattoo on my leg :D
@curtiswfranks
@curtiswfranks 2 года назад
I do not know of any mathematics or physics that does that, though. :(
@mil87_
@mil87_ 5 месяцев назад
Probably my favorite Unicode Bloc is the Phaistos Disc characters; hieroglyphic-type characters from an undeciphered language that has only been found on one single ancient greek artifact: The Phaistos Disc. it contains such gems as BEEHIVE (𐇧), CHILD (𐇔), GRATER (𐇹), and WAVY BAND (𐇼). Unicode takes their "encode every character ever" mission very seriously.
@ItIsMyHandle
@ItIsMyHandle Год назад
Thanks for making this good video, it was so ⍼!
@movezig5
@movezig5 5 месяцев назад
If I were to hazard a guess before I watched the video, I would have guessed it was used in a UI of some kind, since it's a right angle and those were sometimes used to create boxes on screen in older computers, but hearing it was in a set of mathematical symbols rules that out.
@HenryMaier
@HenryMaier 3 месяца назад
It can be a symbol for large models, like LLM. Large models come from large data sets that are then converted into much smaller files, but can then be used to generate content. The downward zigzag arrow symbolized this, because the data is being reduced in size, but is not being compressed like WinZip.
@MaxBerson
@MaxBerson 4 месяца назад
It's also the Linking Sigil, "LS" from Chaos Magick
@Lady_Omni
@Lady_Omni 2 года назад
Hi, I'm the girl who painted that Linking Sigil shown at 4:20 (nice) in the video. Never thought it would get as much exposure as it did, but woah I am definitely impressed!
@ErikratKhandnalie
@ErikratKhandnalie 2 года назад
That's awesome, that's my favorite drawing of Ellis. Also, not every day I encounter anyone else who's even heard of DKMU.
@Lady_Omni
@Lady_Omni 2 года назад
Yep, I've been in it for 12 years now. Come say hi, we're not hard to find!
@GaryWarman
@GaryWarman 2 года назад
HI OMNI I SEE U THERE :3
@GaryWarman
@GaryWarman 2 года назад
@@ErikratKhandnalie drink yer grape juice youngin
@peter9477
@peter9477 2 года назад
Did you invent it, or merely paint that (awesome) version of it? If the former, was it inspired by the unicode glyph at all?
@basilwhite
@basilwhite Год назад
Back in the 80's SPSS used this symbol to mean "unplottable negative value", like, for a scatterplot to see the correlation between time to complete the survey and number of correct answers, it's okay if the scatterplot shows a negative *correlation* of data points from the upper left to the lower right inside the plot, but this data representation assumes 1) no one reversed time and completed their survey in -2 minutes, or 2) got 14 questions wrong on a 10-question form. So this was (and may still be) statistical shorthand for "data points appearing in supposedly impossible negative territory."
@MerlinJuergens
@MerlinJuergens Год назад
There we have the answer!
@BenDud3
@BenDud3 Год назад
This one makes sense the most for me. Either that or is a "magic" symbol as another dude pointed out. Probably you answer is better, since it's based on real life
@GhostSamaritan
@GhostSamaritan Год назад
What did they change the symbol to?
@psymar
@psymar 4 месяца назад
Do you have evidence, like an example of it being used?
@TimJSwan
@TimJSwan 2 месяца назад
Is there a link to a manual like a pdf with the symbol shown and a date? It would be nice to share it with everyone.
@kyyyyyle2571
@kyyyyyle2571 Год назад
Just noticed that some modern routers use the downward arrow symbol for download speed indication. So maybe this symbol is supposed to be used to represent abnormal variation in download speeds
@TheExileFox
@TheExileFox 4 месяца назад
That's much newer than when the symbol was introduced though.
@BrainSlugs83
@BrainSlugs83 2 года назад
So, back in the day, we used to have terminals that printed characters out -- like a typewriter -- instead of a computer screen. -- You would connect to a mainframe, send it commands, and it would respond by printing characters out. A common trick, was to use backspace (which can't delete an already printed character), and just print a new letter over the top. So to underline something, you could print a "_" and a backspace, and then the letter "S", and that would give you an underlined S right there. This looks like two characters that may have been used in some ancient application, that they were probably porting to a modern system (that used screens instead of printers!) back in the mid 90s, and they wanted to make sure that future terminal applications would maintain compatibility with some crazy double printed character.
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx 2 года назад
So "backspace" didn't delete the character it just moved the pointer left? So it was almost like the "←" button?
@The_Blazement
@The_Blazement 2 года назад
@@xXJ4FARGAMERXx unless you had one of the fancy ones that had built-in whiteout
@danielbishop1863
@danielbishop1863 2 года назад
@@xXJ4FARGAMERXx Yes, backspace allowed overstriking. A popular way to create "bold" text was to print something, then backspace over it and print the same thing again to make it darker.
@OGPurePhoenix
@OGPurePhoenix 2 года назад
@@xXJ4FARGAMERXx No. Backspace deletes the character on screens. Old machines didn't have arrow keys. They didn't even have directories or graphical interfaces to navigate. There were running stuff similar to a command prompt/telnet/dos
@absalomdraconis
@absalomdraconis 2 года назад
@@xXJ4FARGAMERXx Interesting unicode in your name ;) . For the original use of most ASCII characters, imagine that you were sending them to a printer, and you didn't send a new one until the previous one had been finished. Carriage return moved the print head (the "carriage") back to the starting point, but didn't move the paper. Line feed moved the paper, but not the carriage. Tab originally moved the carriage to a mechanical marker (the "tab"- this behavior was inherited from typewriters, where manually set tabs were used to make it easier to fill in forms with typewriters; this usage is why the tab key will sometimes move a cursor to the next GUI control), before being changed to fixed spacing. Other character encodings did similar things.
@ngwoo
@ngwoo 2 года назад
I've found a few references to Dutch economics textbooks using it to denote the Y-axis continuing below the X-axis.
@thesaddestdude3575
@thesaddestdude3575 2 года назад
My man!
@asdkfjsldkf
@asdkfjsldkf 2 года назад
I think that’s the answer then
@windcorpOLEGSHA
@windcorpOLEGSHA 2 года назад
Are you sure they are old enough to count?
@andrewharrison8436
@andrewharrison8436 2 года назад
The market for Dutch economics textbooks becomes suprisingly active as 2 million HAI subscribers look for evidence.
@x1xx1x1xx1
@x1xx1x1xx1 2 года назад
Ìf you don't mind taking it a few minutes it'd be great if you could upload an image on an imagehosting site and share the link here (: Thank you
@9o261
@9o261 Год назад
I AM THE WITCH KING OF ANGZARR! *helmet crumples in on itself*
@harley_trader
@harley_trader 2 года назад
You should do a video on how printers still use the ⎊ as the stop button, when that symbol has largely been phased out from older European stop signs.
@Meaxis
@Meaxis 2 года назад
WAIT, THAT COMES FROM STOP SIGNS?!
@jackgerberuae
@jackgerberuae 2 года назад
That is Yield sign. It is stop, but not dead stop.
@RyanLynch1
@RyanLynch1 2 года назад
wow i didn't know that's what the button symbol was from
@InvagPrune
@InvagPrune 2 года назад
Didn't know that either, yield signs here are just upside down triangles, no circle around them
@harley_trader
@harley_trader 2 года назад
@@jackgerberuae No it's not, it's an older alternative used in Britan until the mid 70's
@X_Baron
@X_Baron 2 года назад
The beginnings of Unicode were apparently somewhat chaotic. The math symbols in particular contain a lot of ideas that some working group members had collected from unknown sources and just threw in. There was seemingly endless space so probably the thinking was "why not add anything that might be useful". This was, of course, foolish in hind sight.
@benfll
@benfll 2 года назад
People making Unicode: "there's basically endless space!" Emoji, waiting to be invented: "heh heh heh, that's what you think"
@Aligartornator13
@Aligartornator13 2 года назад
I mean up until the 40s/50s every university/study group ect. had their own symbols and made them up along the way with their ideas (at least in maths, physics, etc.). Many of the original scripts of people like Pauli or Gödel are probably illegible in modern times. ⍼ is probably one of this old symbols.
@CreepyboomGamer
@CreepyboomGamer 2 года назад
Emoji was already invented, just not added to the Unicode standard.
@creativename4879
@creativename4879 Год назад
Why is it foolish in hindsight?
@eduardolarrymarinsilva76
@eduardolarrymarinsilva76 Год назад
Can I have a source for this claim please? 🥺
@martinw.8572
@martinw.8572 5 месяцев назад
Well, I used the symbol in a research essay at school to mark connections to different chapters, so I guess it has a meaning for me now.
@felixq723
@felixq723 Год назад
This symbol is a cultural staple of LSD users, and especially in the LSD user/Chaos Magick practitioner overlap. To some, while under the influence, it's a perfect visual representation of time and space, and can appear 3D with the S wrapping around the L. Some Chaos Magicians also use it as a symbol for a "magickal current," which I don't know how to explain without a foundational lesson on the whole system. The LS current or Ellis current are search terms that could lead you to more. If you see graffiti of this symbol, there's a high chance it was put there by someone trying to utilize the LS current. This is a very popular system of magic for a wide variety of anti-establishment subcultures, and this current in particular is supposed to have to do with bringing down the status quo and/or channeling chaos. In that way, it sort of links into Discordianism, but with much less joviality and much less regard for anyone's safety, including the practitioners. Very many of the practitioners I have met work in the tech industry, some of which have been over the age of 60 and got into it by way of Thelema, or the works of Austin Osman Spare. Fun fact: Jack Parsons, a prolific chemist and rocket engineer, practiced Thelema and credits that for his breakthroughs on rocket engine technologies. Disclaimer: I *strongly* advise against anyone practicing chaos magick. I have only ever seen it lead to significant and worsening mental health issues, including severe, persistent delusions, scapegoating, and dangerous levels of escapism. "If it's not working, it's because you don't believe hard enough and you need to strengthen your delusion," is a literal foundation of this belief system. I'm interested in magic systems from an anthropological perspective, and can say with confidence that getting deeply involved with this one messes you up bad. Please don't.
@mewithyouu
@mewithyouu Год назад
Thanks for your comment this was an interesting read
@mewithyouu
@mewithyouu Год назад
However he references this theory at 14:16 do you have a response for that?
@pierreuntel1970
@pierreuntel1970 2 года назад
It's for when the market gone mad and the price goes back in time
@kam2894
@kam2894 2 года назад
lmao
@blumoogle2901
@blumoogle2901 2 года назад
The price going back in time is interesting, but I thought it was the symbol for when the interest rate has an imaginary component, like when the interest on your loan is (2.53+14i)%
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx 2 года назад
@@blumoogle2901 how the fuck do you interpret that? And how do you pay 2.83i dollars of interest to the bank?
@mechadeka
@mechadeka 4 месяца назад
Temporal inflation
@senororlando2
@senororlando2 4 месяца назад
After seeing this I used the character as a GroupMe topic name and it broke the ability to change topics for almost a full year
@ultrametric9317
@ultrametric9317 4 месяца назад
It's likely a meteorological map symbol that is so obscure it has been lost from disuse. e.g. it might mean lightning associated with volcanic ash. The ordinary symbol for lightning is very similar with a right angle and a zigzag with an arrowhead. The double zigzag with a right angle in a different orientation means heavy thunderstorm associated with a sandstorm. It is so similar it is almost surely a weather symbol that has been copied wrong, or is no longer in use.
@MrShamooga
@MrShamooga 2 года назад
He actually put the phonetic guide for Sigil on the screen and still mispronounced it 😂
@columbus8myhw
@columbus8myhw 2 года назад
Phonetic guides? What strange magic!
@AllenLantz
@AllenLantz 2 года назад
he just reads a script, then the editors put the images. so it makes sense
@VioletEdgar
@VioletEdgar 2 года назад
Hey now, it wouldn't be a HAI video without a mispronounciation or two!
@ctbrokaw
@ctbrokaw 2 года назад
How do you pronounce it? Sigil or sigil?
@almitydave
@almitydave 2 года назад
@@ctbrokaw The G is pronounced opposite to the G in GIF.
@uncanalaleatoriouwu
@uncanalaleatoriouwu Год назад
If you keep the good work, I think your channel is gonna ⍼!
@potato1907
@potato1907 Год назад
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
@mugtaba9805
@mugtaba9805 9 месяцев назад
​@@potato1907 ?
@TextBoxxerHelloWorld
@TextBoxxerHelloWorld 5 месяцев назад
NAH its gonna ⍨!
@seanj3667
@seanj3667 5 месяцев назад
That's pretty rude.
@uncanalaleatoriouwu
@uncanalaleatoriouwu 5 месяцев назад
@@seanj3667 why? I'm just telling him his channel is gonna ạ̶̡̈̂s̶̨̐c̵̠̉e̵̟͔͂̽̚n̸̺̏̿d̸̠̅͒ ̵͍̉̚t̴̖̰͎͒ǒ̵̗̀̈́ ̸̖͆t̵̠͑͜h̶̢̜̦̊e̵̥̜̊̐̌ ̸͔̱̄̍͐š̷̫̺̔i̴̧̥͋̂̓x̶̳̼͉̔̐t̶͎̤͑h̶̩̓ ̵̘̳̈́͜l̷̙̳̽̃ô̷͉̾c̸͉̘͈̑̒ḁ̵̳̻͛t̷̠̲̿̃i̶̥̓͌̚ó̸̥͌̐n̶̹̥̎͘ ̶̡̼͔͂̀
@trentpbrown
@trentpbrown Год назад
The chaos magic sigil you mentioned is older than 2004 - it was used on the Occult Forums message board before that.
@PWingert1966
@PWingert1966 Год назад
isn't it taken to mean summon hero from another reality and deposit them in the magic circle and start him on building a harem of OP females? (The isekai symbol is how it is read)?🍰🍰
@Eggbutts
@Eggbutts 2 года назад
Me: hey mom can we get ⍼ Mom: we have ⍼ at home ⍼ at home: ϟ∟
@RubyPiec
@RubyPiec 2 года назад
why would you want ⍼
@PROPLAYEN
@PROPLAYEN 2 года назад
Man, I only got⚡L
@JackSalzman
@JackSalzman 2 года назад
@@PROPLAYEN lmao
@Name_Pendingg
@Name_Pendingg 2 года назад
@@RubyPiec because ⍼ is the answer to everything, we just need to figure out what it specifically means
@wizardsghost876
@wizardsghost876 2 года назад
@@Name_Pendingg so its just a shortcut for '42'?
@NigelMelanisticSmith
@NigelMelanisticSmith 2 года назад
Trying to read that character on my Smartwatch was a struggle lol
@Nate5
@Nate5 2 года назад
Why would you watch RU-vid on a smartwatch
@aguyusingyoutube2088
@aguyusingyoutube2088 2 года назад
@@Nate5 ikr
@raylee8906
@raylee8906 2 года назад
weird of you to say that
@NigelMelanisticSmith
@NigelMelanisticSmith 2 года назад
@@Nate5 I just got the notification for it
2 года назад
@@Nate5 Because they can.
@estern001
@estern001 3 месяца назад
My uncle was an electrical engineer. He knew the dollar was doomed and came up with that symbol to display it. He called it the Dwindle, because that's what the dollar was doing. He actually got a money order for $5, and sent it in, so it would be recognized in the future. He's been gone for 6 years now, but I know he would be happy to know his symbol will soon be recognized worldwide.
@MAabmets
@MAabmets 3 месяца назад
Vertical line is Y axis. Horisontal line is X axis. Arrow actually starts from where horisontal and vertical lines meet, and it is the Z axis. The squigly line starts from where the three axis meet, and it goes 3 dimantionally up and right towards the viewer.
@KleinOfficial
@KleinOfficial 2 года назад
I almost forgot about this symbol! I actually registered it for a few bucks way back then. The reason was that I wanted a half-satirical half-informative content creator on a then non-existent medium to wonder about its meaning in about five minutes.
@madbruv
@madbruv 2 года назад
proof
@phoule76
@phoule76 2 года назад
visionary
@Golfnut_2099
@Golfnut_2099 2 года назад
But... but... but... I registered the code way back then. The reason was so someone could post in a non-existent future forum claiming the reason they created it was they wanted a half-satirical half-informative content creator on a then non-existent medium to wonder about its meaning in about five minutes. I was successful!!! Too bad I had to wait this long.
@Hunnter2k3
@Hunnter2k3 2 года назад
You joke, but I'd do something like that just for fun. I've already created a bunch of random crap I specifically created to confuse people many MANY years in the future long after I am dead. (although knowing me quantum computing will invalidate my efforts!)
@fred_e
@fred_e 2 года назад
I wonder if it is meant to represent a lightning rod? Considering, that there is a symbol indicating a short to ground
@ArtamisBot
@ArtamisBot 2 года назад
This was also my thoughts...
@linkly9272
@linkly9272 2 года назад
that’s actually not a bad idea
@Oscar4u69
@Oscar4u69 2 года назад
@@linkly9272 half a good idea
@scottbilger9294
@scottbilger9294 2 года назад
I like it. My first thought was it was some kind of ground.
@DavidMacLuna
@DavidMacLuna 2 года назад
Hmm - maybe a degaussing symbol, then.
@Xabraxus
@Xabraxus Год назад
If I had to intuit its meaning I would assume it means irrational function, and its variants specifically refer to the kind of irrational function as it appears on a graph such as sinusoidal or rising edges etc.
@pdan4
@pdan4 3 месяца назад
Might be for a graph which is not bijective (so, it crosses any vertical line more than once); or maybe an electrically active ground plane antenna (a wire perpendicular to horizontal plane).
@justinforseth
@justinforseth 2 года назад
"This weird little guy has been programming into nearly every single computer on Earth for decades, having been updated and carried over countless different times. But if no one seems to know what it means, then that raises a kind of strange question: Why is this symbol in your computer and who put it there?" I imagine there's quite a lot of code that's just sitting in most operating systems where the original purpose and author have been long forgotten, but no one removes it because they're afraid it'll break something. Backwards compatibility and all that...
@jeremyreese54
@jeremyreese54 2 года назад
Old, out of use engineering shorthand. Unicode does not remove symbols. There is the entirety of dead languages preserved in Unicode.
@LilacMonarch
@LilacMonarch 2 года назад
like the tf2 coconut jpg
@energy538
@energy538 2 года назад
@@LilacMonarch like that, except it isn't a coconut and it isn't actually a vital system... The 2fort cow, though... That's a keystone file if I've ever seen one.
@worstdudeever
@worstdudeever 11 месяцев назад
@@energy538 Apparently the coconut jpg makes the game break when deleted
@Slimelia_
@Slimelia_ 2 года назад
Barbara Beeton responded to this video herself: "The information in the video is inaccurate. It fails to recognize that the inclusion of the character in the STIX collection was based on its presence in a version of ISO 9573-13 earlier than the 1991 version cited, a version which existed long before AFII was formed."
@Aligartornator13
@Aligartornator13 2 года назад
Where did she says that?
@louisreinitz5642
@louisreinitz5642 Год назад
He mentions that he didn't want to pay 198 euros for the pdf of ISO 9573-13.
@franzrogar
@franzrogar 4 месяца назад
I've used that symbol decades ago meaning that the vertical axis in a graph is NOT continuous nor proportional. Example: a graph of X:workers in a Y:monthly-salary. In this graph, there will be nothing between $0 and, let's say, $1,000, so instead of drawing a huge empty bottom, you hack the start to 1,000 instead of 0; plus you hack the Y-axis again between $5,000 and $20,000 because that's the top of the "normal workers" and the minimum of the "CEOs and friends", thus the Y-axis is NOT a complete-range nor continuous and the top range of paid people is distorted to look closer to the workers.
@hanzimaster
@hanzimaster 2 года назад
In the Japanese encoding system JIS X 0208, there are a few kanji encoded that are not found in any kanji dictionary. These are commonly known as “ghost characters” (yuurei moji 幽霊文字). The standard acknowledged the sources for these characters, but later people were unable to find these characters in the original sources. Later it was found that the encoded forms were wrong, and the forms that were supposed to be taken, were not encoded. Despite this, one character remains truly elusive, 55-27 彁 (U+5F41), its sources were not acknowledged and no results were found after extensive research. The character 彁 has since then become an internet phenomenon.
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx 2 года назад
So what happened with the characters that were wrongly encoded? And what happened to the charcters that were not encoded?
@hanzimaster
@hanzimaster 2 года назад
The wrong characters are still there, because once a character is encoded, you can’t remove it. The correct characters were added later to different JIS code pages. The most famous of such characters is 54-12 妛,which was a mistake for 𡚴。The source, when preparing the script for print, stuck two pieces of paper together for the 山 and 女 parts, but the gap in the paper created a mark in the print, and this was mistakenly spread as a vertical line in the middle. The right form 𡚴 was encoded in JIS X 0213. Likewise, 52-63 壥 is believed to be a mistake of 㕓, but the correct form is still not in JIS X 0213. For a more extreme case, 61-73 汢 was encoded for a place name, but the source character was wrong, and it should have had 冫instead of 氵。This character is still not even in Unicode. In 2002, the place that used this character officially changed their name to the form with 汢 for convenience.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 2 года назад
@@hanzimaster 彁 is composed of the 弓 radical for bow (weapon) and 哥 for older brother.
@hanzimaster
@hanzimaster 2 года назад
@@RaymondHng An Asahi Shimbun commentator claimed that he found 彁 in a paper from 1923, in the term「埼玉自彁會」,but it was picked up wrongly by the digitization program, and was supposed to be 彊 (see 自彊術). Now for sorting and convenience, the character 彁 is arbitrarily assigned the reading “ka” (from 哥) or “sei”.
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 2 года назад
@@RaymondHng and mountain and girl make that above kanji but which is the radical?
@Ready_Set_Boom
@Ready_Set_Boom 2 года назад
It looks like the Y-Axis is being reduced, i.e. “reduction” or “reduce”. Or even indicate the y-axis is showing a negative value.
@themadscientistkk
@themadscientistkk 2 года назад
So it exists ... to show there's no Y
@Ugerflingy
@Ugerflingy Год назад
I could see it as a way to represent a third axis (Z axis) since having a third line identical to X and Y would just look like a weird sideways y or something - in other words, it would be easily confused. And since trying to add extra detail like dashes or entire included symbols would make the symbol unnecessarily complex, having an arrow to signify “the third axis” was the most simplistic possible solution. Basically just Axis X and Y as the angle, arrow designating axis Z. Though I’ve got no clue what it is for sure so don’t quote me here.
@inthso362
@inthso362 Год назад
Short circuit, a logical contradiction, chaos, they all apply. It is the symbol for Novueval Times, the era of widespread societal collapse in which we live.
@pepp1n047
@pepp1n047 2 года назад
Search up the Poynting vector in electrical engineering and also apply that to a short circuit so it represents the short circuit towards the flow of electrons across a conductive material. IE: a electric welder follows that idea.
@greysad
@greysad Год назад
What? With an "arrow" at the bottom it means a contradiction in . I've used it on University of Warsaw on my logic classes. You can also find it on some old electrical devices from East Germany (like from 50', max 60') and electrical engines from eastern block. Par ex. heavy duty, important elevator engines, munition cranes etc. It was in yellow, or red, with, or without an arrow at the bottom. And it means that this engine is grounded in separate way for high power electric current, like a lighting, or high power surge from some explosive/energy blast. Since more modern (to the old ones i was writing before) had build in grounding conduit, in this role symbol went absolute. My grandfather was an electrician and worked on this things. I doubt that even one plate with this symbol survived. In readable condition.
@alexkirwan7146
@alexkirwan7146 4 месяца назад
Is ChatGPT correct here? The symbol "⍼" is known as the "APL functional symbol circle jot". It is used in the programming language APL (A Programming Language), which is known for its use of unique symbols to represent operations and functions. APL is a language that has been historically significant in the fields of mathematics and computer science, particularly for applications involving array processing and manipulation. In APL, each symbol or combination of symbols represents a specific function or operation, often related to array or matrix manipulation. The "circle jot" symbol specifically is used to denote a particular function or operation within the language, though its exact use can depend on the context within which it appears. APL is known for its concise and expressive syntax, which allows complex operations to be represented in a very compact form. However, this also means that APL can be challenging to read and understand for those not familiar with its symbols and syntax.
@lafcursiax
@lafcursiax 2 года назад
I'm such a Unicode nerd, I got super excited when you said "I need to explain how Unicode works in the first place," even though I already know damn well how it works. (And that message box at 1:55 brought back terrifying memories of '90s foreign websites in Netscape Navigator.) Still, I never heard the story of the angzarr before. Thanks for helping add another layer to my nerdiness!
@abyssstrider2547
@abyssstrider2547 2 года назад
I only learned about unicodes now, but i literally knew what unicodes were since i was 5 years old. And even then i didn't see them but i dreamed of unicode. Like a super long stream of unicode just flashed by and i woke up. It was bizzare and one of my earliest memories. And i have not had a computer till i was 12, but i always desired one my whole life strangely enough. I did recognize a few: U+2297,U+2242,U+23CA,U+25B1,U+2205,U+2252,U+22A8,U+22B5,U+22B7 and U+22C9. But there were many more, these are the only ones that i recognized from unicode list.
@isheamongus811
@isheamongus811 2 года назад
As ci was first
@CreepyboomGamer
@CreepyboomGamer 2 года назад
You mean ASCII? Because plenty of character encoding schemes existed prior to Unicode, ASCII is just one of them.
@HeHasNoName
@HeHasNoName 2 года назад
Actually this came up in a course when I was studying IT at uni and our lecturer mentioned that he had some old documentation that showed the character was used to represent
@zanayeng3983
@zanayeng3983 2 года назад
represent what?
@MerrowHawk
@MerrowHawk 2 года назад
@@zanayeng3983 That's the joke! 😄
@jonathanrichards593
@jonathanrichards593 2 года назад
I have a perfectly reasonable explanation for this symbol that this RU-vid comment is too small to contain. P. de Fermat
@Aligartornator13
@Aligartornator13 2 года назад
@@jonathanrichards593 take my upvote bloody mate
@ralphmueller3725
@ralphmueller3725 5 месяцев назад
at face value i feel like it's telling me everything i did was wrong and I should feel bad.
@felderup
@felderup 3 месяца назад
the symbols for drawing things... petscii had all the extended ascii characters for drawing pseudo windows, with either double or single lines, they're probably in unicode now.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 2 года назад
I think this symbol should come to represent "Dord" which is the accidental word invented as a symbol for density that was added to the dictionary when someone mistook "D or d" for a word because because someone didn't leave enough space between the "or" and the lower and uppercase D's. Spaces are important. I once saw a hand written sign that was meant to say "Pen is broken" but because there was no space between "pen" and "is" It led me to ask the only male there how he had done it, and why he felt we all needed to know it was broken. He was very confused until I pointed out the sign to him.
@RMBlake007
@RMBlake007 2 года назад
Comment of the day award!!!
@hanabiilesley9116
@hanabiilesley9116 2 года назад
this character clearly means "L+get shocked"
@Koutouhara
@Koutouhara Год назад
My first thought of the character was that it looked like going back a page, with the right angle being the corner of the page, and the arrow indicating to turn back.
@gameglitcher
@gameglitcher Год назад
It looks very similar to the symbols used in electrical engineering and probably other engineering.. It looks like a symbol that means The angle is less than is shown (like the zig-zag used to show a break in values on an axis) The idea of it being something that may need to be represented due to what is available to be shown accurately.
@filiptrnka-tz1do
@filiptrnka-tz1do Месяц назад
ChatGPT says this: The "INSERTION SYMBOL" (⍼), represented by the Unicode codepoint U+237C, is primarily used in APL (A Programming Language) and related contexts. In APL, it typically denotes insertion or the placement of elements into an array or a data structure. It serves as a visual indicator in APL code to signify operations involving insertion.
@trolleyfan
@trolleyfan 2 года назад
To me, this has got "leave that slot open, we'll put something there later" written all over it.
@jurajchobot
@jurajchobot 4 месяца назад
To me it looks like it's not just a right angle, but it is a sign of 3D space coordinates and the arrow running right through the Y axis makes it a bit confusing. I would guess it means "spatial vector" as you have a sign of a XYZ coordinate system and a crooked arrow running through it, that looks like a sum of spatial vectors.
@defaultkoala2922
@defaultkoala2922 Год назад
1:55 I get those running old games from other countries. Now I know a reason that might be happening thanks
@singletona082
@singletona082 2 года назад
Angzar looks almost like something you'd see in a schematic. Except not.
@dsnodgrass4843
@dsnodgrass4843 2 года назад
I always thought it referred to "loss" , be it of voltage or data in compression. Like it would in a schismogram or suchlike. But I'm just an old weirdo, so who can say?
@schwig44
@schwig44 2 года назад
@@dsnodgrass4843 nah, this refers to "loss" though i ii ii i _
@absalomdraconis
@absalomdraconis 2 года назад
Someone in another comment mentioned it being used back in the 80s in electrical schematics to indicate the maximum rated electrical load, in situations where thermal runaway could damage the electronics.
@cmyk8964
@cmyk8964 2 года назад
Wikipedia page for _Ellis (sigil):_ [clarifies that “sigil” is pronounced /ˈsɪdʒəl/] Sam: [confidently mispronounces it as /ˈsɪɡəl/ multiple times]
@jorriffhdhtrsegg
@jorriffhdhtrsegg Год назад
How do they manage to make and edit a whole video and not realise ?
@f.n.8540
@f.n.8540 Год назад
🤓
@tomkerruish2982
@tomkerruish2982 3 месяца назад
Could be too much Planescape.
@maxweaver5589
@maxweaver5589 2 года назад
"listen kid, I don't have much time, the secret for immortality is ⍼" *melts*
@theprinceofinadequatelighting
@theprinceofinadequatelighting 2 года назад
Well it obviously didn't help with the whole immortality thing if they ended up melting, now did it?
@TheKitMurkit
@TheKitMurkit 2 года назад
The secret of immortality is ꑭ
@edwardsmith7131
@edwardsmith7131 2 года назад
The secret of immortality is ∞
@screwyourhandle
@screwyourhandle 2 года назад
The secret of immortality is ☥
@WildBluntHickok
@WildBluntHickok Год назад
The secret of immortality is: don't die
@Crazmuss
@Crazmuss 4 месяца назад
This is symbol used to indicate underground electrical cable, in USSR, used with numbers to pinpoint exact location. You should not dig in about 5m radius around it.
@Nat_the_Chicken
@Nat_the_Chicken 2 года назад
The most amusing part of this to me is the people in the comments stating with 100% certainty what it means. They're absolutely sure that they know, despite the fact that several different meanings are being stated this way. You can't really provide any proof in a RU-vid comment, can you?
@LaurenzEdelman
@LaurenzEdelman 2 года назад
Yeah, there is a lot of "I know for sure what it means (even though I have never seen it before I watched this video)"
@schwig44
@schwig44 2 года назад
@@LaurenzEdelman I can say with 100% certainty that is exactly the meaning of ⍼
@senseisecurityschool9337
@senseisecurityschool9337 2 года назад
It's like a quotation mark, except it's quoting a random thought you had, which you are now certain of, for no reason whatever. It's the "random idea cake completely out of my butt therefore it must be true" symbol.
@googiegress7459
@googiegress7459 Год назад
I interpret those comments to be a person's best guess, in absence of them literally typing out something like "this is absolutely the real answer". Life gets a lot easier when you don't assume to know with certainty what someone is thinking / feeling when they make a comment.
@Nat_the_Chicken
@Nat_the_Chicken Год назад
@@googiegress7459 Well, that's true, the way to interpret any of these comments that makes the most sense collectively is as guesses and guesses only. But there are a few comments where the people specifically claim to have had experience with that symbol in some specific field, and it's multiple completely different fields. That's the kind of "I'm sure I'm right" I'm talking about, it's kind of hard to translate that to a "best guess" when it's a specific claim which can't be backed up.
@flaetsbnort
@flaetsbnort 2 года назад
Tired: Sneaking a chaos magick sigil into the Unicode database Fired: Using a Unicode character with a completely unkown purpose as a base for your chaos magick sigil
@BellXllebMusic
@BellXllebMusic 2 года назад
Yea clearly looks like one
@jevinday
@jevinday 4 месяца назад
That ended up being much more interesting than i thought it would be. That was like 7/9 as interesting.
@Etrehumain123
@Etrehumain123 Год назад
Arrow downward means electricity and L means Inductance which is the tendency of an electrical conductor to oppose a change in the electric current flowing through it. So it's a device that is electricaly controled modulation of the inductance
@enigmaticx326
@enigmaticx326 2 года назад
Given the sheer number and variety of characters represented in Unicode, it would be extraordinary if there weren’t any errors.
@ccreutzig
@ccreutzig 2 года назад
Unicode even has some errors documented in technical note #27. They decided that stability was more important for the project goals than, say, correctly listing U+0238 as a ligature instead of a digraph.
@Hijiri_MIRACHION
@Hijiri_MIRACHION 2 года назад
@@ccreutzig There's also the character ㌬, while it was supposed to be spelled バーツ to represent the Baht, a typo resulted in the spelling パーツ. This caused it to become unused, and sometimes fonts that include the CJK Compatibility block don't include this specific character because of this.
@MACTRUQUE
@MACTRUQUE 9 месяцев назад
I found this video going down the rabbit hole of why incandescence was federally banned from being manufactured in the US
@coolnj4
@coolnj4 2 года назад
⍼.
@lemonZzzzs
@lemonZzzzs 4 месяца назад
it's clearly a "lemon power" symbol. one of the most important symbols in all history of writing.
@xiaor1ck213
@xiaor1ck213 10 месяцев назад
I'm watching this video from a Fedora machine and what vexes me the most is that it's displaying this bizarre looking no meaning thingy correctly when it cant display the ratio character and shows a box with its Unicode
@user-cd4bx6uq1y
@user-cd4bx6uq1y 2 года назад
Imagine losing a channel just because youtube stops showing it to you randomly. Last year was quite a period of life, and there was a lot of mess. And amidst all that youtube just stopped recommending this and I didn't mind at first, then forgot. This is so funny. The kind of funny because of how ridiculous the situation is. Lol!
@zacharyhenderson2902
@zacharyhenderson2902 2 года назад
The symbol ⍼ was actually first invented somewhere between 1973 and 1978 when it appeared in an architectural drawing. It was more than likely just a printing error. Then in the early 1980s, around 1983 it began to be used in certain business documents, generally for memos and some presentations.
@Nat_the_Chicken
@Nat_the_Chicken 2 года назад
Proof? E.g. scans of the drawing or business documents or textbooks
@HomelessPank
@HomelessPank 2 года назад
yeah pics or it didn't happen
@jackgerberuae
@jackgerberuae 2 года назад
What Architectural drawing? I have never seen this, and I am in this business 🧐
@asdkfjsldkf
@asdkfjsldkf 2 года назад
Link the Dutch textbooks
@zacharyhenderson2902
@zacharyhenderson2902 2 года назад
@@jackgerberuae that's because the full symbol as you and I see it wasn't what was used.
@bartroberts1514
@bartroberts1514 Год назад
Obscure. "Off the map". It roughly translates to "no logical connection to the source data or graph". Such as data outside the first quadrant, or an illogical conclusion, a wrong extrapolation, an answer in a different system (eg a Complex answer to a Real relation), or leaping out of (shorting) the circuit. Or, "we must leave the known behind." I can't find a citation for it. I saw it informally used in the 1980's in a course on Predicate Logic, on a chalkboard.
@greglinski2208
@greglinski2208 Год назад
I really ⍼ the video. Thanks!
@bimrebeats
@bimrebeats Месяц назад
3:36 That’s me, thanks for the warning. To anyone who cares to know the actual reason, please prove you watched the whole video and I’ll let you know for $5.
@frqubit
@frqubit Месяц назад
Brilliant has a free offer that is likely expired by now.
@magenty_m_axol
@magenty_m_axol 2 месяца назад
Pass the banana down already, whats the wait, the instructions were clear!
@howtodrawwithpaint4648
@howtodrawwithpaint4648 5 месяцев назад
I feel sad for this Unicode character "⍼". This one must be remember.
@anteeklund4159
@anteeklund4159 2 года назад
"Doing hard things is hard, excpet when it isn't" -Sam 2022
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 2 года назад
*H • A • R • D*
@mistersync100
@mistersync100 Год назад
@a22ming
@a22ming 2 года назад
In the ISO/IEC TR 9573-13:1991 document it just stated "Entity Name: angzarr" and "Short description: angle with down zig-zag arrow ". It seems the symbol doesn't have any specific meaning by default.
@flemmingogalund9266
@flemmingogalund9266 2 года назад
😳
@Frrk
@Frrk 2 года назад
Thanks for actually checking.
@martenkahr3365
@martenkahr3365 2 года назад
Yep. The ISO/IEC TR 9573-13:1991 had already blindly included it, likely from some existing collection of symbols, without knowing what the original purpose was. For all we know, it was originally a printing error that somehow got added to a list of symbols because whoever was compiling the list didn't recognise it as an error.
@captianmorgan7627
@captianmorgan7627 2 года назад
From another poster it sounds like it is a symbol for the electrical load on a circuit. Maybe mostly used by Germans/Swiss.
@DugrozReports
@DugrozReports 2 месяца назад
This video kind of explains why moving a text file from a PC to a Mac in the very early 90's often resulted in gibberish.
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