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♿️SHOCKING DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION IN 2020 

Wheelsnoheels - Gem Hubbard
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♿️DISABLED PEOPLE ARE NOT WELCOME IN 2020! CAN YOU BELIVE THIS DISCRIMINATION IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE WORLD? ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS BUY A TOASTER. FIRST I WENT TO THE RANGE, BUT THEY HAD BLOCKD OFF ALL THE DISABLED PARKING WTH NO ALTERNITIVE. THEN IN PC WORLD I COULD'NT WAIT IN LINE DUE TO A BLADDER INFECTION. THE MANAGER WOULD'NT LET ME SKIP THE QUEUE SO I HAD TO COME HOME.
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After suffering my spinal cord injury i have really had to adapt in life. So Im showing you my disability lifestyle to raise disability awareness. As a disabled woman and a woman in a wheelchair who is paralysed, I thought it would be interesting for you to see, and hopefully give you some inspiration and motivation so that you can live more independently. wether you are paraplegic or quadriplegic I hope that I can help you. The wheelsnoheels message is “so no one has to feel alone.”
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@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
Please! My friends, we cant let this happen. Share Share Share. What do you think of a recognised access card across the nation, to help us gain access without queuing? Please check my Twitter, and re tweet this video link, Twitter is one of the most powerful ways to be heard. :)
@ChrisPage68
@ChrisPage68 4 года назад
We already have to prove our validity more than any other group in society. It's just one more level of bureaucracy. And as to the "manager" at The Range, he was just trying to guilt you with his claim that other customers would not like it. Don't accept that kind of crap. I have actually found non-disabled people have been more obliging in the current climate. He was just trying to make his own life easier. But I won't be going on Twitter because I made a commitment online years ago that I would never use it (my reasons have been proven right - I foresaw the way trolls would abuse it) and I can't back down because people would rightly see me as a hypocrite. My integrity is the only thing of value that I won't sell.
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
PageMonster Thank you. Totally respect that. But if you have any other ways of sharing please feel free to do so. 😊 and yeah, the manger was a douche! But I didn’t feel well and didn’t have the fight that day 😖
@memesissydollar3080
@memesissydollar3080 4 года назад
PageMonster k
@ChrisPage68
@ChrisPage68 4 года назад
@@Wheelsnoheels I know the feeling. I always seem to come up with the right things to say AFTER the event! 😭
@sancourtier5029
@sancourtier5029 4 года назад
Gem this could be turned into a real positive for The Range we could Try it on its head and say The range leads by example and puts in temporary disabled parking after complaint Will DM you x
@EvesterBee
@EvesterBee 4 года назад
I think lockdown is definitely showing just how thoughtless and uncaring people can be! Unrelated, I've recently been diagnosed with a chronic health condition and been advised to use a mobility aid- your videos have really been helping me feel more confident and valid to try one out! So thank you 🌟
@EloiseEighteen
@EloiseEighteen 4 года назад
My conditions aren't that visible. The pandemic has taken so much independence from me because of store accessibility. Parking covered, no alternative to STANDING in a queue, toilets locked but not radar accessible.. People have offered to go for me and obviously there is the internet but I just want to have some hardwon independence back! People think there ks a universal 'disabled ID' but the best I could offer is my blue badge which obviously is in the car!
@lbcrafter8621
@lbcrafter8621 4 года назад
I have also an European Disability Card (EDC), maybe this can be a help for you if you are in the eu?
@rockykoast7065
@rockykoast7065 4 года назад
Start lobbying to automatically get a priority card? Here I France I had to apply for one...but as I use a wheelchair for getting around and shopping, 99% of people are very kind and helpful and offer to let me go to the front of the queue even if I've opted to just join a queue.. oftentimes I don't insist on my priority if I see someone in front of me who is elderly/frail-looking etc. as I'm relatively comfortable waiting in my wheelchair....It's a slightly different story when I've just spent the week in IV & feeling very much the worse for wear, (which is every 4th week at present)
@salan3
@salan3 4 года назад
I can relate to this. I use a mobility scooter(I don't have the stamina to use a wheelchair and I can stand for a few mins). 90% of places are just a no go at the mo. I can't sand in a queue. If I use my scooter, I get funny looks. A lot of the stores have put one way systems but you try turning with a scooter 1. It goes on.
@PochemuPochemu
@PochemuPochemu 4 года назад
Hey, check out the hidden disabilities website and order the sunflower badge and lanyard. They cover most hidden disabilities, from autism, hearing, and visual impairments and worth looking into.
@sandpiperr
@sandpiperr 7 месяцев назад
When I was in college I injured a muscle in my shoulder. The doctor told me that I didn't need a cast or any kind of immobolization, I just needed to avoid lifting anything heavier than about an apple until it healed. However, eventhough he said it didn't need to be immobilized, he had the nurse give me a sling. I later understood that the sling was so that my injury would be visible and people would hold doors and such for me, because when I went out without it I'd have to catch the door that someone opened in front of me and then let go of, and what feels like nothing normally, really aggravated my shoulder while it was injured.
@PrincessJax268
@PrincessJax268 4 года назад
"No. The people in the queue will be upset!" I'm sorry I'd be more upset having to watch a grown woman having to wee herself. Some people are heartless and tactless.
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
I Know. :(
@rexcaliburn
@rexcaliburn 4 года назад
i honestly doubt many if any one would be upset a person ina wheelchair or with a walker cane etc was allowed to skip the line. of course there will always be buttheads but in general most ppl want to help or at least be nice to disabled ppl
@carlhaydock1787
@carlhaydock1787 4 года назад
@@rexcaliburn trust me,some would get angry
@HighTen_Melanie
@HighTen_Melanie 4 года назад
Robert Weber - People can be pretty nasty - I know by personal experience of being a chair user for 20 years.
@Millbrook1974powderedwater
@Millbrook1974powderedwater 4 года назад
Let me correct that for you. Most people are heartless and tactless. Why should they consider anything besides themselves? Empathy is no longer taught.
@melaniecurtin6402
@melaniecurtin6402 4 года назад
At lot of stores here in NY have special times for the elderly & handicapped. A lot of stores open an hour before the regular time.
@valerieannrumpf4151
@valerieannrumpf4151 4 года назад
They did the same thing in Connecticut too. Stop & shop, shop rite and Big Y all have special hours for seniors and the disabled, same thing with walmart.
@MayimHastings
@MayimHastings 4 года назад
Here in Georgia, too! I’m shocked at the lack of compassion and common sense in the U.K. (in this instance, I know they are more compassionate than the US in other instances). Go get ‘em, Brits! You got this!
@hannahk1306
@hannahk1306 4 года назад
The supermarkets did that here, but other shops have only started to reopen in the last month or so - some are still shut. I haven't been, but from what I've heard the shops have been really quiet in these special hours (i.e. the people who can go don't want to go at those times). So I think they're starting to relax those times now.
@BoomBox5168
@BoomBox5168 4 года назад
We had that in the UK too but many people went anyway so theyd be able to get first pick of things there. At least where i live, not certain about the rest of the UK
@hiworld6925
@hiworld6925 4 года назад
That kind of helps though people with disabilities or cards that prove they need to go first should just be allowed, because it's not like we are traveling in droves. At most in lines you might get 5 people with a disability that's high needs that makes them need priority. That way they can have just about as much flexibility with when they travel as everyone else and better manage their needs.
@skylarwilliams5909
@skylarwilliams5909 4 года назад
The problem is that some disabled people need it for the closeness to the door. Makeshift ones don’t cover that if they’re further away. Also why not just open the spots?? I don’t understand
@Sam-mh4sb
@Sam-mh4sb 4 года назад
Agreed! I have a temporary pass due to fatigue issues possibly from a serious illness last year. While I'm doing better, I have no guarantee I'll be able to walk back out to my car after working or shopping. I've had to learn to basically assume that I'm barely going to be mobile afterwards and use the pass while I continue to recover. If the spot isn't close, there's no point.
@lpowell6651
@lpowell6651 4 года назад
It’s so awful! It’s all disabilities now. I have Autism. I can’t stand in a queue, I’m also double jointed, so can’t walk far, I also can’t go for a while until I need to go to the toilet. When I went to the range, all of these things couldn’t happen, we need to make a stand for it. At least I can stand in a queue for a few mins or walk a bit. But for wheelchair member, it’s even worse, I’m so sorry!
@AreilKnight
@AreilKnight 4 года назад
My Neurodivergence is really causing problems in the current situation. There are so many new signs in shopping centres - some are very important safety information that I need to stop and read, but a lot is just repetitive information, or advertising, it's visually very busy and overwhelming to my senses. Then there's the overwhelming difficulty of maintaining social distance, some people just aren't doing it. I wanted to enter an ailse to get milk but it was crowded so I waited near the end cap, several people pushed past me, and it's happened every time I've been shopping since march, I even had people yell at me to "stop blocking the ailse" I'm not blocking it, I'm literally waiting to enter, the rules say only 4 people at a time, and there's already 6 people in there! I tried to bring a friend to act as a support worker because I have had so many panic attacks/sensory overwhelm meltdowns as a result of the crowds in queues, conflicting rules, conflicting social etiquette. But the staff said "your support worker can enter and shop for you, you don't both need to enter" (in my country we have a "community hour" for people with disabilities to shop before the rush, but you have to show proof of disability - I have ID and explained that the person with me was support) I understand that the fewer people in the store the safer, but shopping is one of the few things I can do to try and claim some independence for myself, it was hard enough to ask for help in going shopping after accepting I was struggling when shopping alone, to have companies tell me I have to give up all my independence in shopping is hard. It's hard to recognise that on one hand, these changes are here to keep us all safe, I want to be happy to accept that, and I cognitively understand it. But emotionally, I can't help feel bitter that other people are allowed to shop with family or housemates, but because I'm using the community hour only one person can enter. There also hasn't been many company policies introduced to help people who are hard of hearing - face masks make it very hard to communicate and it would help if staff would use gesture to be more expressive rather than just stare at me then yell angrily because I didn't hear them the first time. Not being able to drive due to my disability issue also a barrier. The government needs people in my area to get a covid test before we can leave the suburb, but the only testing facility in my suburb is a drive through, I called them and they don't take pedestrians. People who can drive can get tested then get a letter to let them pass the police checkpoints.
@laurieberry4814
@laurieberry4814 3 года назад
I have more than one disability. People can not even tell. I have a lung condition which I am not proud of. It is called bronchiectisis. The first time I was diagnosed, I was fired from my job. My boss told me that I was sick for too long.
@traceylamplugh8095
@traceylamplugh8095 3 года назад
@@laurieberry4814 That is disgusting treatment!
@rexcaliburn
@rexcaliburn 4 года назад
in the US it would be illegal to block off disabled parking and ramps. I have said for a while you brits NEED to get your govt to pass something like the ADA so many of the issue syou face would be taken care of because it would be the law.... dammit now i want toast
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
We had the disability equality act past in 2010, but im not too sure its as good as the ADA.
@ChrisPage68
@ChrisPage68 4 года назад
We have legislation. The Disability Discrimination Act was passed in 1995, but it was drafted to be so weak that it's hardly worth it. It took years to get anti-discrimination legislation passed.
@helenllama
@helenllama 4 года назад
Wheelsnoheels - Gem Hubbard it doesn’t help the shops just decided to ignore the equality act, and the Equality and Human Rights Comission, when they got involved.
@rexcaliburn
@rexcaliburn 4 года назад
@@helenllama sounds bad the ada isnt perfect but it helps A LOT. start a petition on change.com to the PM or parliament im sure you would get plenty of signatures. keep calling out places hell call the news and get on tv if you have too. force the govt to listen
@ecologist_to_be
@ecologist_to_be 4 года назад
Oh we have legislation lol The UK isn't in dark ages. 🙄🙄🙄 We face same issues as USA, not everyone follows the law.
@elliec9581
@elliec9581 4 года назад
the discrimination these days is unreal! my dad is a wheelchair user and booked a seasonal parking pass for our chosen football team’s stadium, to go with the season ticket. on entering, if he attempts to park in the designated disabled spaces, an employee runs up and tells us that we can’t park there because he haven’t paid for a VIP parking pass!! lawsuit pending...
@King-dsb
@King-dsb Год назад
Hi get out of your chair you haven’t pay vip chair yet
@CricketGirrl
@CricketGirrl 8 месяцев назад
Were you successful with your lawsuit? I can't even find an attorney.
@wheelinthroughlifewithbria7570
@wheelinthroughlifewithbria7570 4 года назад
I'm glad the range finally has some handicap accessible parking. They are probably too embarrassed to answer your tweet.
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
Oh the shame. But we got a result.
@ecologist_to_be
@ecologist_to_be 4 года назад
Hate the word handicap lol
@wheelinthroughlifewithbria7570
@wheelinthroughlifewithbria7570 4 года назад
@@ecologist_to_be sorry
@HighTen_Melanie
@HighTen_Melanie 4 года назад
Sarah The word handicap is archaic here in the UK but it’s still widely used and acceptable in the USA. The person that wrote it probably didn’t mean to cause offence.
@wheelinthroughlifewithbria7570
@wheelinthroughlifewithbria7570 4 года назад
@@HighTen_Melanie your right I didn't. We just call it handicap accessible parking in the United states.
@Khopper224
@Khopper224 4 года назад
Yeah I’ve been fortunate enough to avoid going to these kinds of places during the quarantine, but I see how places are implementing social distancing protocols that are absolutely discriminating against disabled people. I mean, how am I supposed to use the sidewalk when restaurants are blocking them with tables and chairs? And I’ve seen lines for stores be so narrow there is is no way my electric wheelchair will pass through them. Between being worried about getting sick and the accessibility of places, I’m really apprehensive to leave my home right now.
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
Yep thats exaclty how I feel x
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
@@73zxee Totally
@helenllama
@helenllama 4 года назад
The supermarkets all got sued at the start of the lockdown, under the equality act. It might be worth getting in touch with the law firm involved to say it is happening with other companies. The Equality and Human Rights commission are also involved. I’m ambulent disabled (autistic) and have other issues with queuing which meant I haven’t been able to do my own shopping until Tesco opened up online slots to the masses.
@stevemark9262
@stevemark9262 4 года назад
Hi Helen
@sooshu_lover526
@sooshu_lover526 4 года назад
I was screaming "WHAT THE HELL MAN, WHY YOU DO THIS?!" at 8:52 PETITION FOR WHEELCHAIR USERS TO HAVE THEIR OWN SLOT TIME IN STORES!!! #wheelchairusersarealsopeople
@ecologist_to_be
@ecologist_to_be 4 года назад
A lot have vulnerable hour
@pinkmagicali
@pinkmagicali 4 года назад
I’m stunned bathrooms would be locked. In Aus they limit many people can go in but you can still use them. WTF are they doing blocking off disabled parking? Why are they doing that?
@andreacook7431
@andreacook7431 4 года назад
Most places here in Iowa have their bathrooms closed. :(
@PrismYuuzuki
@PrismYuuzuki 3 года назад
A lot of convenience stores have locked their bathrooms for “staff only usage” due to COVID in my area too.
@dawnmoriarty9347
@dawnmoriarty9347 2 года назад
I've known the disabled spaces to be blocked off for construction vehicle storage. When I complained, the answer was that the builders needed convenience! And I obviously didn't?!?!
@shannonbinmore1264
@shannonbinmore1264 4 года назад
I personally don’t think there is many people who would refuse a lady in a wheel chair to go in front of them to go to the toilet 🙄🙄 I can’t believe he said no, I was in line the other day and everyone allowed an mother and child to go in to use the toilet, I don’t think people are as heartless as they seem x
@kootenaystringworks1765
@kootenaystringworks1765 4 года назад
I think she wanted to get in to shop and use the toilet though. Use the toilet, no problem, go shopping ahead of everyone else in the line, problem.
@Isobel201
@Isobel201 4 года назад
@@kootenaystringworks1765 She needed the toilet before going shopping, so she would have gone straight to the toilet. They should be letting more vulnerable people in ahead of normal people anyway.
@Fred2303
@Fred2303 4 года назад
What the hell? Over here in Germany I haven't seen any taped off parking bays at all. That's just cruel to do that to disabled people. They need their space and the closeness to the door. You can't take that away from them! Also, how can the entrance be the exit? That's not allowed over here at the moment.
@ivarnordlkken8082
@ivarnordlkken8082 2 года назад
Let see it from the other side: Here in Norway we have a lot of snow in winter. And where do we plow the snow? Yes, you guessed it: put it on the disabled areas!!
@AGirlCalledNaomi
@AGirlCalledNaomi 4 года назад
Thing is by law car parks have to have a certain percentage of disabled parking bays per number of they have in their car park, so by only offering a couple of spaces but tapping off the rest they're still breaking the law. Also couldn't believe he wouldn't let you in when you had a medical need to get inside instead of waiting in the queue. Like you said, we should be able to shop just like any other able bodied people.
@stevemark9262
@stevemark9262 4 года назад
Hi Naomi
@PrincessJax268
@PrincessJax268 4 года назад
My dad lost his leg in an accident before I was born and has a wooden leg so he uses handicapped parking but luckily as far as I know he's never really had anything like this happen to him. The only thing that used to happen when I was younger is that at sleepover my girlfriends would ask him about it alot. Lol. But he just told them the story and answered questions and let them touch his wooden leg. Needless to say they called him a pirate. Lol
@Mommabuddha
@Mommabuddha 4 года назад
Omg a lady parked in the non parking area where the ramp is. One I wasn't able to get down the ramp and two I couldn't get in the car. The manager ended up calling on the intercom to the owner to move their vehicle but by the time she came out I had to walk down like 5 stores to get down a ramp and my mom had to drive down to pick me up. So frustrating!
@sooshu_lover526
@sooshu_lover526 4 года назад
It was nice to know that the people in the garden center were so kind and caring; I hope the other stores will see their wonderful actions and copy them soon...
@wheelinthroughlifewithbria7570
@wheelinthroughlifewithbria7570 4 года назад
As a person in a wheelchair I'm pissed this happened to you! I will share tomorrow!
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
Thank you. :)
@sunhouse8616
@sunhouse8616 4 года назад
I hate to say this, but you have your own sort of ableism. None of the disabled bays, except for a couple of angled ones at the garden centre, are adequate for whose who use wheelchair lifts or ramps to access their vehicles. You are able to do a parallel transfer, so a relatively narrow access apron is adequate for you. Anyone using a power chair or who is unable to transfer and must ride in their chair would be risking a lockout from their vehicle were they to use those bays: some other person could perfectly legally park in the neighbouring bay, and there would be no room for ramp and chair in the narrow strip between the cars. Now, none of this is your fault of course. But there are levels of access. Just as most able bodied people don't look at curbs and gravel as the obstacles they are, so too you, for whom narrowish spaces are adequate don't look at them as the obstacles they are to more severely disabled people.
@Dinopoodles
@Dinopoodles 4 года назад
I understand how you feel. I'm in the U.S. and some places still have these issues. I have a mobility problem so standing is a problem. I also have a service dog and depending upon him to help keep my balance at a long que is hard on us both. Good job keeping it real.
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
I hope I can get something sorted.
@raesurtee4711
@raesurtee4711 4 года назад
Great result in the end but the range could have at least replied to you.
@ohyeagirl1111
@ohyeagirl1111 4 года назад
Having the handicap parking spots blocked off would totes be illegal in the US. ADA violation. Is there something in the UK alike the ADA that would protect you from this?
@gypsydonovan
@gypsydonovan 4 года назад
I don't know but I'm in Washington & there are a few places without spots or with them blocked off. One place takes all deliveries through the only ada spot.
@Tarantio1983
@Tarantio1983 4 года назад
Yeah, the UK has the 2010 Disability Discrimination Act. It says all publicly accessible locations must make "all reasonable and nessessitus adjustments" to better enable disabled people to access the venue ... but it leaves defining "all reasonable and nessessitus adjustments" to the property owner along with the bill for making adaptions... thus giving a financial incentive to do no more than the bare minimum and enough legal wiggle room to justify the least effort!
@rockykoast7065
@rockykoast7065 4 года назад
That garden centre looks like a model of how things should be! :)
@SandieRoberts
@SandieRoberts 4 года назад
I’m glad that The Range modified the parking BUT I’m still angry that it’s happening at all. I don’t think it’s acceptable to be treated this way at the first sign of a problem. It should be a PROTECTED facility, not the first thing to go. Someone in that first meeting should have said well we need to protect our customers so they can queue while still observing social distancing and we must protect our disabled customers by not taking away the facilities they need to stay safe. Instead we got thrown to the wolves, expendable for the clearly thought more valuable able bodied customer. Disgusting. Thank you Gem for all your hard work bringing this issue to light 👍🤗👍
@ahmedsaadou1007
@ahmedsaadou1007 4 года назад
Do you accept my invitation think you
@dawnmoriarty9347
@dawnmoriarty9347 2 года назад
Disabled people are pretty invisible in the UK. When we're not invisible we're considered a nuisance
@CricketGirrl
@CricketGirrl 8 месяцев назад
I don't know how to live as a profoundly disabled woman when, in a major hospital in the USA, I can be denied access to (and ridiculed for asking for) a wheelchair, access to a toilet, and feminine hygiene products for a heavy period. This happened in Albuquerque, NM, in 2024. THIS YEAR. And not a single activist or attorney I spoke with about it thinks that was a problem. What are we doing here? What is wrong with the disabled community when one of it's own can say she developed a bad rash from laying in her own menstrual blood for 24 hours, and NO ONE THINKS THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT? "Not about us without us." Remember that? We're leaving potentially millions of our own people behind because we forgot how hard we fought for the few rights we have. I know I won't even get a response to this. The disabled community in the United States has lost their souls. No one stands up for anyone except themselves. I thought I could speak with an ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) lawyer and create change for OTHERS with the little time I have left. I poked around and discovered at least 6 other similar complaints for the same hospital starting four months ago. This hospital is abusing people with disabilities. I have witnesses. I have documentation. I just don't have anyone else who cares.
@onepawatatime7925
@onepawatatime7925 4 года назад
Please please don’t take your mask off in the store, it negates the whole purpose of it! As someone who is immuncompromised that’s super scary because your mask protects me! We can hear you just fine trough the mask, no reason to lower it. And subtitles are a great option for any deaf people who would other wise need to read lips!
@captainjollyrogersailingso6809
@captainjollyrogersailingso6809 7 месяцев назад
😂 do you feel dumb now they admit the masks did nothing and niether did the social distancing it was just to dehumanize your fellow man so when they start executing poor and disabled nobody cares
@AK-uk9kj
@AK-uk9kj 7 месяцев назад
How are you doing now
@onepawatatime7925
@onepawatatime7925 6 месяцев назад
@@AK-uk9kj still immunocompromised and living in a global pandemic people refuse to acknowledge
@cassidysmall5779
@cassidysmall5779 4 года назад
Please stop taking your mask off when your near people/in the store
@kimpaintscanvas7023
@kimpaintscanvas7023 4 года назад
She's directly facing her camera, and even someone holding it, standing directly in front of her... if any droplets are expelled from her mouth or nose, they're not going past that camera and the person holding it. It's really disappointing that is all you thought to comment about this video. This lady shared with us some of the struggles shes been experiencing, and all you got from it was something to point a finger at her for. You proved the point that compassion for those with disabilities is a thing of the past.
@TwoJaysMoon
@TwoJaysMoon 4 года назад
Kim the Artist it doesn’t matter. The droplets stay in the air for hours. Leave your fucking mask on.
@disneyenchantedyt
@disneyenchantedyt 5 месяцев назад
@@kimpaintscanvas7023 thing of the past it never existed to begin with sadly
@ryanrain257
@ryanrain257 4 года назад
Same with problem i have lost half my muscles in one foot and two years ago i had disk replaced so have sit on the floor to easy my foot pain but it upsets my back and looks at time makes me fell uneasy and on many times i would move what was in my way got yell once for moving something i told them nicely if it was so hard for me to get i would go around but i cant he got so mad at me i said im sorry but this is disablety enter anf just walked in now im trying to be mean its just i have to do things a certain way to pervent more problems
@stevemark9262
@stevemark9262 4 года назад
Hi Ryan
@danielletadd1038
@danielletadd1038 4 года назад
had the same problem in new zealand some places where fine but others where not it drove me mad when the disabled parkers where blocked off
@rexcaliburn
@rexcaliburn 4 года назад
same thing i say on many of Gems vids. you need to start petitioning your govt to pass something like the ADA (Americans with disabilities act) it does tons to help us disabled folks, makes it law for all public spaces /businesses to be handicapped accessible. protects your rights regarding service dogs etc. and so much more.
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
Ugh
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
@@rexcaliburn I need to take a trip over to the US. Learn the ADA, and bring it here
@ChrisPage68
@ChrisPage68 4 года назад
@@Wheelsnoheels We won't get real change unless we stop electing Conservative governments.
@rexcaliburn
@rexcaliburn 4 года назад
@@Wheelsnoheels or you could use this handy website to start www.ada.gov/
@therandomcuriositiesofrae.2001
@therandomcuriositiesofrae.2001 4 года назад
I partly know how it feels. As have anxiety issues and hidden disabilities. They seem to just not help and it makes it worse. Doesn’t help when u need the loo.
@Narnendil
@Narnendil 4 года назад
This makes me so angry! But I'm glad you finally got your toaster!
@anayahinton
@anayahinton 4 года назад
Sadly I experianced the same with The Range. I had a great experience with B&Q, they were extremely helpful. Thanks for highlighting the difficulties we have been facing. xxx
@bswithcas5787
@bswithcas5787 4 года назад
I live in Alberta Canada, and I’m grateful that all the places I’ve been haven’t blocked off any disabled parking, and many places have times specially for disabled, seniors, or immuno compromised to come in without all the cues. The times might not always work but at least there are options!
@bdhesse
@bdhesse 4 года назад
Yeah, we're in Alberta too. I've only had to cue once since this all started, and that was at IKEA, so it wasn't a surprise.
@calajohnson
@calajohnson 4 года назад
I have reduced mobility, and have walked away from line ups that I just can't stand in. It sucks when you need groceries.
@jorychi
@jorychi 4 года назад
I'm in awe of how much disabled parking you actually have! I'm in Texas and even a huge Walmart super center has maybe ten spots and they're ALWAYS full. Most of the even larger grocery stores have 6 to 10 spots on average.
@kirstygunn4523
@kirstygunn4523 4 года назад
The blocking off of the disabled loos would be a problem with my family as both my teenaged boys are autistic. although they are no longer in incontinence products the elder of my children still has some issues with toileting so we have to use the disabled toilets so i can help him if my husband isnt with us to take them to the mens loos. Because taking a very tall teenaged boy into the ladies loos gets us some funny or disaproving looks.
@MrMartellSincere
@MrMartellSincere 4 года назад
I hate being disabled and get discriminate from job's 😭
@LouiseFranksArt
@LouiseFranksArt 4 года назад
Oh and the Range is shocking for disibility access, I've mentioned that to you before. I've had to shift stuff for wheelchair users before, and that's as a customer with limited mobility myself.
@Bastianjens13
@Bastianjens13 4 года назад
I would like to add the United State does not have any kind of access card. Anyone who has something like that here is illegal. Just wanted to post so people know
@evelynkrull5268
@evelynkrull5268 4 года назад
When it comes to button pads. I dont know why they dont have adjustable buttons pads. I have lupus and I'm very tall and it could be painful if all the pads were wheelchair accessible height. Rather than having a "special needs' lane why not just have adjustable pads at every station so everyone can get help! We have the technology!
@tobeytransport2802
@tobeytransport2802 4 года назад
I have a hidden disability and the other day when I was in Sainsbury’s they played a hidden disability announcement saying something like “not all disabilities are visible, be kind to customers with sunflower lanyards”
@Punkinfluence_666
@Punkinfluence_666 3 года назад
I hear this alot, the announcements I mean, and while wearing my lanyard it sometimes makes me more insecure by them pointing it out
@JennaGetsCreative
@JennaGetsCreative 4 года назад
I'm sorry to hear so many businesses aren't catering to the needs of their disabled customers in your area. That's absolutely unacceptable! For me it's been the bathrooms. I don't look disabled, I can stand in a queue, but I do have a bowel disease and when I need to go, I need to go right now. Maybe I'm more empathetic than the average person, I don't know, but I absolutely would not have been angry if the manager had let you in ahead of the queue. (Unless I also desperately needed the bathroom and wasn't being allowed to use it, but then a visibly disabled person was catered to...)
@sooshu_lover526
@sooshu_lover526 4 года назад
0:50 If we weren't in lockdown, I would give you my toaster!!
@kootenaystringworks1765
@kootenaystringworks1765 4 года назад
Were you looking to go in and shop or just use the washroom? If it was just to use the washroom , it was a bad policy for them to not let you in. If you wanted in to shop, so did all the other people in the line up.
@TORITHEGUMMYBEAR
@TORITHEGUMMYBEAR 4 года назад
Same thing happening is the U.S.. I just started doing store pickup instead because they have made it very difficult.
@rexcaliburn
@rexcaliburn 4 года назад
then you need to report those stores they are in violation of the ADA
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
@@rexcaliburn Totally
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
Yep, I feel this way. too.
@pinkbeam
@pinkbeam 4 года назад
Hi Gem! I'd actually be contacting the police about this as disabled parking-spots are legally mandated (at least they are here in Australia). 💞
@lilac24H
@lilac24H 4 года назад
Wow this is the earliest I have ever made it to a video
@charleelakebean
@charleelakebean 4 года назад
Same
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
It went up at the wrong time today.
@stevemark9262
@stevemark9262 4 года назад
Hi Lilac
@mayajane77
@mayajane77 4 года назад
There is a shopping center near me that I go to quite often that doesn’t have many accessible parking spots. So about a year ago I wrote to the owners voicing my concerns and I swear not even 2 weeks later some had been painted over so now there are even less! It’s so frustrating and hurtful to see how a lot of people don’t care about people with disabilities.
@lasrider11
@lasrider11 4 года назад
It’s another thing about blocking disabled bays that not only are access isles blocked for wheelchair users/ramps to deploy, but limited mobility people that can’t walk far have to park in normal spots!
@kampover
@kampover 4 года назад
This is difficult because we (as disabled people) often say that we want to be treated by others as other non disabled people, so this should also mean waiting in queues etc. but sometimes we just DO need a little more help. I personally hate skipping the queue to get access before other people. I understand that you were in pain, I would be angry too, I get UTIs far to often, but I think that the manager would treat other person with the same problem the same as you. But that doesn't excuse blocking the disabled parking, which caused this whole problem....
@kerryb1234
@kerryb1234 4 года назад
Absolutely appalling!! I would not stand for that kind of discrimination if I went out with my hubby. He has CP, cannot stand for more than a couple seconds and would definitely require his wheelchair to wait in line. Like most with CP he has incontinence both kinds so holding it would not be an option. I would be so pissed off if I couldn’t get a disabled park, in Australia they are few and far between as it is, we are lucky to get one anywhere we go. Many people are eligible for permits which is great but councils don’t make enough spaces for all the people who use them, so those with wheelchairs that need bigger spaces miss out most of the time. To think it’s 2020 and we’re still having to deal with these issues.
@chavley
@chavley 4 года назад
It's quite off topic but how did you find learning drive with hand controls? And continuing to drive? Is it worth it? I want to learn to drive but I don't know if it's gonna be easy to do (my arms work its just my legs that don't cooperate) I'm not sure if my partner can actually teach me because he uses his feet and I'll need hand controls. I'm glad you finally got your toaster though!
@wheelinthroughlifewithbria7570
@wheelinthroughlifewithbria7570 4 года назад
As for anything it takes practice. Of course its worth it because you get to where you want whenever you want!
@ChrisPage68
@ChrisPage68 4 года назад
There are some driving schools that use cars with hand controls - I learned that way 30+ years ago. You might need an assessment as to what hand controls suit you best.
@EvidenceSaved
@EvidenceSaved 9 месяцев назад
@moonspirit65 this is where you can watch footage of disgusting abuse of a disabled person in Monmouthshire, Wales, UK. Please share everything you watch.
@Brian-Cherry
@Brian-Cherry 8 месяцев назад
I have often attended the HYDRO in Glasgow for gigs. I usually find the staff wave me forward to the front. I have never heard anyone complain.
@timothytrimmer8241
@timothytrimmer8241 4 года назад
I live in the US and I have issues with the mobility through some stores. When i use an electric cart, I have to really squeeze through, and around the corners of, some aisles with the cart. It is so aggravating.
@lindalagarce8996
@lindalagarce8996 3 года назад
Oh girl, I hear you! This past year has been an eye opener for me. Our ADAa laws in the US need to be updated, stores do not have to provide a scooter, it is considered an adaptive technology like a cane or glasses! Really! Also, the discrimination I had to go through by having to wait in line standing up waiting to go into a store before I could get a scooter in a store where one was available. I can no longer shop at some stores due to no scooter, this is why I will have to invest in a wheel chair. People will love that, seeing me get out of my car and get into a wheelchair before going into the store, lol. I can’t wait.
@walkingtowheels
@walkingtowheels Год назад
I don't know if this has been said before but in France (where I live) you have a disabled card issued when you are declared disabled, you carry it in your wallet, it has your photo etc... this allows you to jump any queue anywhere... I have another for the car which entitles you to park anywhere at anytime (not just in disabled bays) I don't use my card very often, but sometimes I get (as you have) caught short, in which case its invaluable. I'm surprised you don't have this in England.
@nadi737
@nadi737 2 года назад
I watch your video now, but this was also a big problem in the Netherlands. And there are normally 2-3 disability parking spots. And every shop/restaurant/city/supermarkt place the shopping cars there or just... nothing. But we where still not aloud to park there.
@hillerymagrobi8990
@hillerymagrobi8990 3 года назад
I'm in a wheelchair - in South Africa. People here "expect" me to jump the queue. When I'm well, I say no thanks, however, when I'm having a bad day, I jump the queue. I would have thought England would be on advanced.....
@justincarter5167
@justincarter5167 Год назад
I know lockdown made people scared of their own shadows and people did stupid things, but blocking off a disabled parking bay, my god, how absolute and utterly stupid for a start.
@traceylamplugh8095
@traceylamplugh8095 3 года назад
Rights for everybody else except disabled, mentally or physical (or both) and the elderly.....why!!!!
@roycespiceland5991
@roycespiceland5991 4 года назад
I noticed the disabled parking is not wide enough for my van with the side lift that I have to use with my power chair. Here in the U.S. they only have to have one place wide enough for a disable with a side left for every 500 park places. This very hard for people with that type of van.
@stevemark9262
@stevemark9262 4 года назад
Hi Royce
@notmeanttobe6940
@notmeanttobe6940 2 года назад
For the past 4 years over had people yell at me"you think your entitled to a ramp taking everyone's time from people with real disabilities like drug addiction. Your muscular dystrophy is not a disability so quit acting entitled. I know a wheelchair can make it up stairs so stop crying victim." I'm in eastern USA.
@frankj2879
@frankj2879 3 года назад
I know I'm 6 months late but that end was depressing. You shouldn't be pleased they have disabled parking bays - that should be a given. Standards dropped so much in 2020 that that has become a positive when that really should be basic stuff. It's how failure lowers expectations and it's wrong!
@brittanymorton831
@brittanymorton831 Год назад
I have a question for you I’ve been in the wheelchair for almost 10 years now and my chair has handles on the back so someone can push me Around I am paralyzed on my left side only so I can’t very well push myself with my hands and I do go out without go to helping me anywhere I go
@alishabab3
@alishabab3 2 года назад
I got a leg disability that i was born with and level 2 autism.. In Australia I was in a special school in primary and secondary and was on a disability pension. I was told I could get the disability parking card thing but I was too embarrassed in getting it even though as the years go by I can now no longer walk 20m and stand for 2 minutes without serious pain. I wear long pants allot and jeans mainly cause I guess of bulling all my life has made me self conscious of my leg so when I seen people with disabilities you can't see with the parking cards and other people look at them like "why should they have it" or other disability people more so ones in wheelchairs "no offence to you" get angry at anyone that isn't in a wheelchair.. There was one lady posting pics of people with mental or physical disabilities that you couldn't see by the eye on social media that they aren't allowed to park in those spots unless you have a wheelchair.. So now I'm 37 turning 38 and I still am too scared to get a disability parking card cause of the judgement even though I'm in so pain. Love the vids :)
@CrystalMouse1
@CrystalMouse1 4 года назад
I’ve asked our local police if we can double-park when disabled spaces are all taken and they said yes! 😎👩🏽‍🦽👨🏾‍🦽I also keep an empty pickle jar in the car so I can pee if I can’t access a handicapped stall. Often people hog those stalls to do drugs or take a huge 💩 so I end up peeing myself. Last time this happened I was at the mall and after ten minutes, I went to the other gender restroom because I’m non-binary. The guys yelled at me but I stated that I need the wheelchair stall and someone in women’s restroom is taking too long and I need to pee immediately!
@tomlee252
@tomlee252 3 года назад
I'm not sure what the disability laws are in the U.K., but in the U.S., disabled lots can't be blocked, gas attendants need to pump gas if there are more than one person working, businesses are supposed to make accommodation's for disabled customers, you can park in a 15 minute zone like a regular parking spot, but I do still find some places lack the sensitivity
@donnaparks1919
@donnaparks1919 2 года назад
church demonized my dyslexia wanted do exorcism on me treated me like ???????
@eleonoragiannetti3603
@eleonoragiannetti3603 4 года назад
Sorry, it's a long one... my bad! In Italy, every store has priority access for people with disabilities (and elderly people/pregnant women) at the entrance and at the registers and/or the employee let you go first if there is not a priority access and you ask for it. I personally don't use it because I don't mind queueing, but I totally get that some other people might want to. I understand the thought that some people in queue might be angry about it, but honestly who cares? Is your right and you can have a priority access, their fault if they don't know. It's not tolerable that an employee is denying you access because "customers might complain", he is the one who should welcome customers and know what's the access policy! I always hope that such things get reported to the store manager when it happens. That being said, I am not a fan of having a card or something that proof my right for facilitations... I don't want to go places with a label that says I AM DISABLED. I feel that we already have a lot of certifications on our files, that can be shown as needed, no need of other cards or bracelet or whatever
@georgecurtis6463
@georgecurtis6463 3 года назад
So what happened with this issue ? As an example for me, my wal mart years ago blocked off the disabled parking for the good Friday crowd control. So being immediately pissed, I got hold of the manager and said that what they were doing was illegal. She at first argued a bit but I mentioned several ada laws she was breaking. One being alternative parking and routes. It was changed that evening. So in your case, health issues are a problem not easily explained. Or accepted.
@saraha6079
@saraha6079 3 года назад
Last year during the pandemic when everything kicked off and everyone was paanic buying and being ridiculous, the Morrisons I lived near blocked all the disabled bays even though there was plenty of room on the path for social distancing queueing. It's all changed since but it must have been frustrating for those who needed the spaces. It may have not been intentional or direct but still shows the majority of people lack consideration for others who need more help but want to continue being independent as much as possible.. Also not every disabled person was able to get a delivery slot so they had no choice. I have Autism, and I had really bad sciatica that time. I got shouted at coming in multiple times as I couldn't carry heavy bags.
@AubreyÆsohn
@AubreyÆsohn 2 года назад
the sheer amount of parking spots y'all have just boggles my mind. we're lucky to find upwards to 6 spots at any one store.
@gwen6476
@gwen6476 3 года назад
I just saw, here in Seattle, that some businesses are showing that the disabled parking with a sign while being blocked so no one can park in the spot. Wish I had a picture to show you. Also we have those bike and scooter shares and people block the sidewalk ramps, with se businesses putting their signs in the way of a sidewalk ramp to where a wheelchair can get thru. When this happens to me, I just kick them out of the way not caring they would get mad. Lol their was one time when a business owner caught me moving their sign , it fell down, they came out screaming at me. I looked at the woman and said "here I'll fix it, just where it was, and have you use my wheelchair and see if you can get around it" she just turned around and went back into her store. I was nice, and stood her sign back up, out of the way but where people can't see it, and headed home. The lady came back out screaming and put the sign back where it was.
@johnvelas70
@johnvelas70 2 года назад
Amish here have a policy anyone in a chair/crutches has head of line priviledges, 2nd priority is pregnant women. Also most Amish sawmills will let someone in a chair use their bathroom that's not open to the public.
@leeanne1703
@leeanne1703 4 года назад
I went to see a specialist doctor one time and when I get there I the only entrance I could find was a door that led to a long flight of stairs. I didn't know what to do, I froze honestly cause I was shocked it seemed crazy that this was the only access. This is a doctors office! I called the office and was told yes unfortunately this was the only access and why don't I try walking down slowly...uhm..what!? I can't..anyway I said well cancel me cause you don't have wheelchair access I can't make it and as i hung up a man was at the top of the stairs and offered to carry me down..i said no thanks that seems scary and left going home. So yes I know with all this is ridiculous on top of it. I know one time I went to a restaurant that wasn't accessible also. One flight of stairs going down to the bar and two flights of stairs to get to the restaurant. OMG. I let my cousin carry me but its ridiculous!!
@pikachuthegayatheist6215
@pikachuthegayatheist6215 2 года назад
I know what the laws are in the UK but you should’ve been able to sue the manager of that store for making you have to wait in line to use the bathroom because of your disability. The US because of the Americans with Disabilities Act if say Best Buy on Black Friday has a queue waiting outside for the open at say three in the morning and there’s security guards going in and out because their stock managers and employees setting up for the next day and you were there and you have this disability that is causing you to Urinate yes you could sue them so long as you’re in the part of the line that’s on the property, and it doesn’t matter how long the line or queue is. This is a suable offense to not provide for somebody who is disabled, because what happens if you have an emergency and they don’t provide they could be in serious trouble for not providing. This is one of the many reasons to why so many stores stay open 24 seven between Black Friday and Thanksgiving now is because not only is it more profitable but they can be sued for not providing for disabled individuals who are in the queue are in the line if an emergency happens.
@jyjori
@jyjori 4 года назад
It’s not really shocking. 2020 sucks anyways
@jasonray2526
@jasonray2526 3 года назад
I am new to being in a wheelchair unable to drive my car so my wife drives me around I am also completely deaf and I have recently lost my voice completely as well I have Ataxia and also have spinal cord plms and spinal tumors have heart failure as well recently also had a stroke my wife parks regularly leaving the hc parking open since she helps me with my chair and pushing me in it I have tremors that come n go that cause my whole body to shake I'm in constant pain but if I didn't have my wife I don't know what I would do it has been rough but I'm trying to keep my head up not being able to do alot things I used to do is very frustrating been having to learn new ways to do certain things
@oliviasteven1796
@oliviasteven1796 4 года назад
I can’t believe shops don’t consider accessibility at all, not only is it discrimination you’re also losing business. I’m really confused as to why businesses don’t want people’s money, and why wouldn’t they accommodate someone if they needed something, so they can spend money in your business? Logic
@dudeleboski2692
@dudeleboski2692 2 года назад
People in Wheelchairs have priority over non disabled ones. As a wheelchair user myself, where in the UK can i complain?
@sebastianmontanez6969
@sebastianmontanez6969 Год назад
ask for health demand improvements for spinal cord injury or cure
@danielleshanti
@danielleshanti 4 года назад
Just to let you know, the wording on your thumbnail should read, "no disabled allowed." Past tense of allow. Aloud is like out loud. That's a trick for remembering the difference. =)
@Wheelsnoheels
@Wheelsnoheels 4 года назад
Ah thank you for letting me know. Ill sort that today.
@ChrisPage68
@ChrisPage68 4 года назад
Well people don't like it when we do speak up, so I think it works in this context. 😉
@lynndeatherage3792
@lynndeatherage3792 Год назад
ALOT OF PLACES DONT WHAT US DISABLED CONDITIONS AND IF WERE ON HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHERS IN MINNESOTA AND IF WERE ON SOCIAL SERVICES LIKE SNAP, CASH BENIFITS MSA, SSI, SSDI, MEDICAL INSURENCE.
@Jerry-me1fy
@Jerry-me1fy 3 года назад
I was at the store today and my mom had to get a electric scooter by the exit door no more then five feet away.The store employee told my mom she had to walk completely around the inside of the store about 100 feet just to get a scooter a few feet away because it's the rule. Customers of the store said she was being rude because she wanted to take a short cut to get a scooter while she's practically killing her self standing there. Dose anyone think she was wrong or were they wrong? I love to hear what anyone thinks about that.
@jessicawright8472
@jessicawright8472 4 года назад
I'm shocked who curry pc World said no I have very bad bladder and most places that don't have to loo I can borrow as let us go straight in I've missed the queue plenty of time in the supermarket just so I can go to the loo in there and I get what you mean with the disabled bays being out of order my sis is disabled and can't walk there far its been a nightmare for her as well
@annetteslife
@annetteslife 3 года назад
What makes me mad is places like Walmart and McDonald's a majority of the handicapped parking places are taken away and put up for curbside and mobile pick up
@RaeRabbit21
@RaeRabbit21 2 года назад
Do your chair handles fold down and in and up and out when needed? I really like that. I love that she asked if you needed a trolly with your chair and they had lots of accessibility at that last shop you visited.
@jwilleseries7764
@jwilleseries7764 Год назад
That was really awful of him not to let you in. If I where to stand in a queue (and I really don't like standing in lines because my legs hurt a lot when I stand or walk) and someone in a wheelchair got to go inside before the rest of us then that would not bother me at all because the person got ahead for being in a wheelchiar, who the hell would be bothered by that?
@annwhite7419
@annwhite7419 3 года назад
We are in total lock down stores are curb side pick up only. It is totally inconvenient but much safer. Ontario Canada
@Jackiesguineapigs
@Jackiesguineapigs Год назад
what really gets my pip is how few businesses actually show photos of there disability access its always the first thing me and my carer check out online can we access hotels are the worst for this is the shower low enough does it have handles in the right place does the shower have a seat. I only have use in one hand after a stroke some years ago.
@tobeytransport2802
@tobeytransport2802 4 года назад
Curry’s pc world is shit! My mum doesn’t have a disability but she walked out the store anyway because of the crap customer service.
@Raeitc
@Raeitc 4 года назад
I cop enough crap just using my chair, don’t think I’d cope if it got worse
@stevemark9262
@stevemark9262 4 года назад
@Rachel S Hello
@mrbrighton4581
@mrbrighton4581 3 года назад
The only reason the business changed accessablity is because you put a spotlight over their bigoted heads. They won't respond to you because it doesn't benefit them to do so end of story.
@tobeytransport2802
@tobeytransport2802 4 года назад
I think that ALL parking bays whether disabled or not should have at least two foot of room between them, I mean who the hell is actually skinny enough to get into car parking bays anyway?
@annachronistic
@annachronistic 4 года назад
Here in the US, we have the ADA laws. They often have separate lines for handicapped people. My main problem is with individual people being asses rather than businesses. I can't ride some buses because of that.
@joeford2127
@joeford2127 3 года назад
i feel you i wouldve simply ask people at front of the line ask ask if you could cut in front of them then he couldnt possibly object surely they wouldnt have said no
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