✅ Best External Antenna For 5G Home Internet - T-Mobile AT&T Verizon - 4x4 MIMO

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What's the fastest external antenna for Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile 5G Home Internet? I compare cheap Amazon to more expensive name brands like Waveform and Peplink. I compare omni-directional and directional panel antennas. What is the best? I also compare the speeds with the stock T-Mobile Sagemcom 5688W and the 3rd party Chester Cheetah V2 with SDX65 modem. I band lock to different 5G bands and 5G NSA vs 5G SA to really show how these antennas compare across the board. Consider subscribing to the channel or looking below for more content!
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AT&T Internet Air videos: • AT&T Internet Air 5G C...
5G Cellular Modem Routers: • ✅ 5G Cellular Modem Fo...
Waveform External Antennas: • Waveform Cellular Ante...
Antennas tested in this video:
Waveform 4x4: collabs.shop/w5deud
Peplink Pepwave 40G: amzn.to/3O6lJ8z
Square: amzn.to/488CaJg
Rectangle: amzn.to/48f9TRj
Here's some parts for external antennas (however: its best to purchase the antennas directly from WF, not through Amazon due to fees):
Silicone self fusing weatherproof tape: amzn.to/3MRRpeX
Waveform 4x4 MIMO Panel: amzn.to/3m9tsUG
Waveform 2x2 MIMI Panel: amzn.to/3x0H8GB
Waveform 4x4 LPDA Kit: amzn.to/3Nsj5rn
Waveform 2x2 LPDA kit: amzn.to/3zVcKhR
U.FL to SMA adaptor cables: amzn.to/4aF2j4c
U.FL to N-type adaptor cables: amzn.to/3LyLIEY
Adapter Cable SMA Male to TS9 Female: amzn.to/3wVyzfj
0:00 Intro
3:29 Antenna Specs
11:53 Build Quality
16:28 Test Router & Setup
19:38 Test results Intro
21:51 5G SA Speed
25:22 5G SA Ping
27:27 n71 5G NSA Speed
29:50 n71 5G NSA Ping
31:05 B66, B2 & n41 Speed
34:29 B66, B2 & n41 Ping
36:54 Sagemcom 5688W Ping
37:55 Data Summary Chart
38:08 Conclusion
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@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

Get 5% off Waveform antenna and signal booster products with this link: www.waveform.com/natertater or just use code "NATERTATER" at checkout. 4x4 MIMO Kit Direct: collabs.shop/w5deud Or on Amazon (no discount): amzn.to/3tvIM5v USE COUPON CODE for $45 OFF : NaterTater Buy Cheetah V2: chestertechrepairs.com/products/5g-cheetah-v2-%F0%9F%90%86-dual-sim-wi-fi-6-industrial-lte-nr5g-wireless-modem-router-bundle-fixed-wireless-access-point-can-work-mobile?variant=47353649430821 Buy Cheetah V1: chestertechrepairs.com/products/wifi6-industrial-lte-5g-nr-wireless-modem-router-unlimited-hotspot-rv Be sure to see my other Verizon and T-Mobile Home Internet Videos: T-mobile: ru-vid.com/group/PL8d9FovK2dNQHp0KWk8gG8XXvaKzaoSB3 Verizon: ru-vid.com/group/PL8d9FovK2dNSOcTz7L6sHiuWVQXwUT4my AT&T Internet Air videos: ru-vid.com/group/PL8d9FovK2dNT31tM0IRKApwZhAWC658QR 5G Cellular Modem Routers: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ELZNPu38r70.html Waveform External Antennas: ru-vid.com/group/PL8d9FovK2dNS1HuMabIm8hspYa7nlXpPP Antennas tested in this video: Waveform 4x4: collabs.shop/w5deud Peplink Pepwave 40G: amzn.to/3O6lJ8z Square: amzn.to/488CaJg Rectangle: amzn.to/48f9TRj

@timmturner 6 месяцев назад

You do great testing Nate, nothing to complain about. I'm very happy to see you test other antennas, not because you are in cahoots with waveform but you see how others perform compared to waveform.

@zachariahyeatts4026 6 месяцев назад

Thanks so much it’s insane that so many other RU-vidrs don’t have the quality nor knowledge of Celluar internet like you do thank you for all that you do!!

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

Appreciate that!

@mwolrich 6 месяцев назад

so as expected, the Waveform 4X4 performed the best ✅

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

Yep and it was interesting to see how the others compared and especially where they did much better or worse then I expected.

@wondersteven 6 месяцев назад

Really hard and thorough work Nate. Thanks. I've already bought a WF 4x4 Log Periodic and although I haven't installed yet, I wanted to make sure I made the right purchase. Your timely review reaffirms that.

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@Mikedeela 6 месяцев назад

My results are generally comparable to your cheetah results. This morning, it’s about 3:30 AM now, I’m getting just over 300 Mbps download, 36 Mbps, a latency of about 39. This is with three bars, good. I occasionally get slightly better results and four bars, very good. I’m still trying to get the G4AR, and I’m still getting blank looks from the TMobile store staff when I ask about it. From your data I probably won’t get much better than I already have. But really, my goal was not vast improvements, just more consistent upper end operations. I would also like to push down my latency a little bit. It’s not terrible, but it is noticeable. Thank you so much for all the work you do.

@user-bj5un9oe7u 6 месяцев назад

Interesting information that you are presenting. I just got a hold of a T-Mobile G4AR Gateway and I purchased and received a Waveform 4x4 MIMO antenna. I noticed that your data only includes 1 cable connection option (AP = Antenna Port & GP = Gateway Port): AP1 to GP1, AP2 to GP3; AP3 to GP2; AP4 to GP4. This is also what is indicated in the Waveform manual. I talked with a Waveform signal specialist, and he told me that I should consider doing my testing with all cabling options, however this would have meant 24 cabling options for every locating that I want to test. As we talked further, he said that I didn't need to test all 24 options, just 6 options as follows: (Option 1) AP1 to GP1; AP2 to GP2; AP3 to GP3; AP4 to GP4; (Option 2) AP1 to GP1; AP2 to GP2; AP3 to GP4; AP4 to GP3; (Option 3) AP1 to GP1; AP2 to GP3; AP3 to GP2; AP4 to GP4; (Option 4) AP1 to GP4; AP2 to GP1; AP3 to GP3; AP4 to GP2; (Option 5) AP1 to GP2; AP2 to GP1; AP3 to GP4; AP4 to GP3; (Option 6) AP1 to GP4; AP2 to GP2; AP3 to GP3; AP4 to GP1. In some cases option 3 works the best which is what you likely discovered while in other cases I get significantly better performance out of the other options depending upon the location as my closest tower is 7.2 miles from my house. I aim the antenna panel using the T-Mobile Internet Wi-Fi network app. I spent an entire day running tests today and I noticed that I am getting a huge amount of variability in my results, and the 5G data isn't changing which leads me to a question for you. Should I be unplugging and power cycling the Gateway every time that I switch cable positions? Thanks

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

As you are finding out it is very hard to accurately and consistently test this. I certainly could have added different antenna connection orders but it would simply get out of hand. Find what works well/well enough and optimize it. Once you narrow it down you should power off/on the gateway AND send some data through the connection prior to speed test and deciding on it's performance.

@biblebelter9772 6 месяцев назад

Thanks. I'm not ready to get an antenna any time soon. But I appreciate all the valuable information that you provide us fixed wireless consumers.

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! Part of the reasons I make the videos is so you can get an idea how stuff performs and then you can decide what to pursue. Glad it helped.

@user-jp3nm9pp1u 6 месяцев назад

Good information thanks for your testing . They have an old saying pay for what you get. Be waiting for the next video.THANK YOU.

@WisdomTree2024 4 месяца назад

Very much thorough as always, you are much apricated, Thanks

@NaterTater 4 месяца назад

You're welcome!

@minigpracing3068 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the discount, finally grabbed a waveform panel with your link. Going to try it in the attic and see if it survives the summer heat and still gives signal with winter snow on the roof. If not I'll have to get it outside, which I'm working on for a TV antenna and a weather station.

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

awesome. if you have a way to point it out a gable end so it just goes through a vertical wall and not shingles thats the best for attic use. heat shouldnt be a issue but built up snow can be.

@minigpracing3068 6 месяцев назад

@@NaterTater Shingles is the direction I need to go, so probably not going to be great until I can get it outside. Outside is another bunch of money for the lightning arrestors and probably longer cables. Have to see how it goes.

@scottricci7154 6 месяцев назад

Hey. Theres a little tater guy on the desk!

@ruffu3 6 месяцев назад

Thanks so much for your information. And getting a better understanding of information helped me with my 5g tmobile. Have 4x4 waveform coming this week! Also have the new gateway router the white one with external ports.. I get 35-50 down and like 85-90 up without the antenna but learning bout the SINR.. Thanks again

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

Good, the 4x4 should help tremendously!

@ruffu3 6 месяцев назад

@@NaterTater thanks can't wait to see. Just did a speed test. Still don't have antenna til Thursday. Was getting 93 download and 95 upload.. Been nice to have code for 5% before lol.

@BL-os5cp 3 месяца назад

Great breakdown. I had to watch twice, but thar was just me.

@NaterTater 3 месяца назад

Glad to hear it was helpful. Note Waveform just redesigned their antennas: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RFZBbSg_pzE.html

@patrickhonar4285 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

You're welcome!

@scottricci7154 6 месяцев назад

If I literally live equally between two towers. Would you recommend me getting two waveform 2x2’s or one 4x4 and just find the two with the best results. I thought about aiming the 2x2’s one at each tower

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

I think a 4x4 connection towards a single tower would be best. In fact in the best case scenario you'd block as much of the 2nd tower signal as possible and focus just on the best tower. The other tower signal is effectively interference.

@BJ_MBA 2 месяца назад

From GB thank you very inu

@NaterTater 2 месяца назад

Welcome 👍

@WatchRichRebuildsChannel 6 месяцев назад

Great video 👍. If you bought them on Amazon you could just return the crappy antennas and get your money back. I guess I’ll be buying WF 4x4 from your recommendations. Also have you done a video on portable devices,units,antennas like when your on business trip traveling at airports, hotels, etc…? Happy Holidays. Thank you in advance.

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

I haven't done a video on portable ones specifically

@chuckhowland5146 6 месяцев назад

Love your videos. I just switched from cable to TMI gateway G4AR. One idea for future videos is to measure the amps/watts from the gateways with and w/o antennas. I just did a baseline w/o antenna (BTW I plan on getting 4x4 MIMO Waveform early in 2024 based on your testing) never saw anything higher than 97 watts (during speed test, upload seems to draw most power). I was doing it to not overbuy a standby UPS for it as it has to be away from my other equipment. Gateway specs say 3 amps max draw but not anywhere close w/o an antenna based on my observation. Perhaps it draws more with the MIMOs. How much more would be great to know. Along with how to really shutoff G4AR wifi radios!

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

I likely dont have a tool accurate enough to measure the power since its relatively low. 97w seems high. The chester cheetah v2 comes with a 36w power supply for example (12v 3amp output). To turn off the G4AR wifi you should be able to use the Hint app ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Qy-f8xfPk4s.html

@chuckhowland5146 6 месяцев назад

@@NaterTater I think the confusion is input current vs output I made. G4ar is rated 1.2 amps INPUT per adapter label which is 144 watts so 97 watts is reasonable per my wattage ac device. I can’t measure output of power adapter but I just wanted to know the ac draw. You are right in the draw is small. Thanks for link I will try it out!

@robertharelson124 6 месяцев назад

Isn't the measured latency bad? Seems it gets worse with the antennas looking back to the original test. I'm trying to get at 100ms or less.

@stevenmartintrimble1386 6 месяцев назад

I would like you to review the instyconnect modem / antenna. The modem resides in the antenna resulting in no 'cable' signal loss. Thanks for all your informative videos. i love the techy stuff.

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

I can check back on them. I tried for a few weeks long ago and they were always out of stock!

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

Oh geez, just went to their site. Its now $1200 to get it with their cheaper external antenna!! But it is in stock atleast.

@jcchangshik3701 4 месяца назад

Hey Nate, I was able to get a different router with T-Mobile by following your instructions/guidance. Thank you! I am looking a the waveform antenna and I am wondering if it is something that you would recommend if I am having reception issues. I am only getting 3 bars and I am wondering if the waveform antenna will help improve reception. Thanks again! Great content.

@NaterTater 4 месяца назад

Yes indeed, especially if you can put the antenna outside or in the attic.

@jcchangshik3701 4 месяца назад

Sweet! Yes, I am planning to install it outside. Thank you and keep producing those amazing/informative videos.

@lattermanstudio 6 месяцев назад

Your link to U.FL to type N are only 6” cables … you need to include a link to the 12” cables … much easier to use and these are what WF are including …. Just a heads up …. Great report by the way 👍

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

the type N ones are 8" but the SMA ones were 6" so I updated them to 8" ones too. I prefer to keep them as short as possible but folks can always pick longer cables if they want. thanks for point it out, i agree 6" are a bit tight.

@theknightsolaire8493 6 месяцев назад

Nate. Id love to see you review the new Wifix 4x4 Blaster antenna. Wireless haven just released it and its a fraction of the price waveform is.

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

It appears it's $10 cheaper than a waveform 4x4 with my WF 5% discount. Launch sale makes it cheaper still but WF also has sales on occasion. I can still look into testing it sometime but its certainly not a significant price delta.

@johnny-jr5iz 6 месяцев назад

Thanks Nate sell me one those antennas,,lol

@MrJpegi Месяц назад

Please also test poynting antennas Im curious

@noahkb80 4 месяца назад

Nate, if you have the time, opinion on SignalPlus and their directional antennas? If not, it's ok👍

@NaterTater 4 месяца назад

sorry, which one of their antennas? (note url's are blocked in comments)

@zachariahyeatts4026 6 месяцев назад

One thing I have been curious about is using usb lte 5G modems that are a m.2 style and usb tethering it to a router with rooter or openwrt on it for instance

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

the goal there is just a DIY cost effective one? Or is there another goal to achieve?

@Blu3ManiC 6 месяцев назад

Without an external antenna you would get the same performance as a 5g phone tethered to a glinet pocket router with a ttl firewall. You won’t save much money unless you already have a good spare 5g phone and sim or you just really want a good diy project.

@zachariahyeatts4026 6 месяцев назад

@@Blu3ManiC thanks for your repel that’s what I figured I really appreciate your feedback I just wonder why more RU-vidrs don’t do cellular internet videos mostly

@Blu3ManiC 6 месяцев назад

@@zachariahyeatts4026because if they’re on RU-vid posting videos it usually means they already have good internet and don’t need cellular. That’s why you only see it on RV channels or Rural home content channels.

@WatchRichRebuildsChannel 6 месяцев назад

Just a question, I used a app/website to locate my cell towers near my house that tells me what bands they are broadcasting but how would I know which one has the fast processing speeds? I know I can just test it with moving my antenna around but is there info on which cell tower near me has the more faster updated signals for data only ? Thanks again.

@fritzkabeano1969 6 месяцев назад

There's two ways data is sent/received by cell towers. One is using microwaves and the other is fiber. If your tower doesn't have a microwave antenna on it, then it's fiber. Microwave is slower.

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

there's isnt a way for a consumer to know what the backhaul speed is for a tower but as mentioned seeing the microwave "drums" on the tower and no big black cables (fiber) likely means a slower backhaul.

@gabagogebs7818 5 месяцев назад

I can't seem to find your video on 4x4 antenna cords line order

@NaterTater 5 месяцев назад

www.waveform.com/a/b/guides/hotspots

@robertlittiken394 6 месяцев назад

It would be interesting to see how the 4x4 Log Periodic compares to the flat panel.

@MrLukerowell 6 месяцев назад

In my test the WF log periodic antennas running in 2X2 outperformed the WF 4X4 in every way the gain of the log periodic is so much more than the panel. I ordered 2 more acouple weeks ago and have not had a chance to install them do to the holidays and the flu going around.

@robertlittiken394 6 месяцев назад

@@MrLukerowell look forward to hearing how the 4x4 LP works out.

@kbkmusicsnob 2 месяца назад

So can you mount the Waveform antennas in your attic?

@NaterTater 2 месяца назад

Yes. Outside is best though.

@fuzzwalker610 6 месяцев назад

What about metal roofs? Does it need to be outside in that case? Versus the attic.

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

Yes, outside is always better and especially so for metal roofs and siding.

@drakebarefoot5213 6 месяцев назад

Try testing a Proxicast brand setup against the WF

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

i can look into that!

@gregnorgard7904 3 месяца назад

I have a question I have the T-Mobile hotspot it won't let me set a time to shut off the grandkids devices at a certain time it comes back with a message can't update the device any ideas why that would happen?

@NaterTater 3 месяца назад

I'm not sure. Did you ask tmobile support?

@gregnorgard7904 3 месяца назад

@@NaterTater not yet

@Blu3ManiC 6 месяцев назад

The generic 4x4s are great when you find the whole kits for 80 bucks or less. Once they get close to only saving a few bucks, there’s no point in not going with waveform or other established antenna companies like proxicast or poynting that have actually lab tested their kits. The consensus is the T-Mobile branded one just sucks and isn’t worth it lol

@44lilron 4 месяца назад

What About Long periodic Antennas Vs WF 4x4 flat panel?

@NaterTater 4 месяца назад

LPDA are higher gain and better for when you have RF line of sight.

@the-papaw 5 месяцев назад

Why not use 4 Yagi Directionals, would you not get better gains?

@NaterTater 5 месяцев назад

Great question. Yes, the "yagi" (actually LPDA, log periodic directional antenna) typically have higher gain. However Waveform recommends them namely for when you have RF line of sight to the tower. I have trees and a little terrain between me and the tower.

@colleenshannon8658 6 месяцев назад

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@colleenshannon8658 6 месяцев назад

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@nomadicmicmac 6 месяцев назад

Would a waveform stop my gateway from dropping from 5g n71 to a 4g signal daily?

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

I wont guarantee it but yes in general I have seen that myself and heard of others reporting the same finding.

@genxgamerdad141 6 месяцев назад

Do you know what your signal strength is? Might be on the edge, external antenna could help.

@michellelovejoy1383 6 месяцев назад

So to date I've not been able to get 5g with T Mobile with WF 4×4. We currently rented a 50 ft boom and still no 5g 😢

@fritzkabeano1969 6 месяцев назад

Might have been way cheaper to just drive around with a 5G capable phone and find out signal strength/direction......just saying

@michellelovejoy1383 6 месяцев назад

@fritzkabeano1969 We have but the towers are over 2+ miles Plus I live in a mountainous area so dealing with topography issues. The only cell service we have is via WeBoost cell booster.

@MrLukerowell 6 месяцев назад

You might want to try the TWH 4X4 panel antenna I have compared it it with the same setup against 2 WF and TWH out performed the WF but ended up buying some WF yagi antennas and they out peform both the WF and TWH panels hands down only running in 2X2.

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

thanks for the info, i'll look into them!

@timmturner 6 месяцев назад

I've done a good bit of searching and haven't turned up anything related to TWH antennas, do you have an actual company name?

@NaterTater 6 месяцев назад

@@timmturner the wireless haven

@timmturner 6 месяцев назад

@@NaterTater thanks Nate

@Kota-sk8sl 2 месяца назад

Wait so the 2x2 yagis did better than waveforms panel antenna, the quadmini or quadpro?

@dalej6661 2 месяца назад

The cost of this antenna is over the top!

@NaterTater 2 месяца назад

Well they are designed to go on the roof.

@ElliotMessage 6 месяцев назад

For the past 2 years T-Mobiles download speed was slowing down 5 mbps Humboldt county California Rio Dell, Eureka, Fortuna, Arcata Vally West area. Horrible. Magenta max priority plan for $95 they slowed us down and we promised priority data speed unlimited. No cap limit. Lied. Count me in for a complaint..