Thanks for watching and absolutely follow me on twitter for build updates and changes. x.com/tabl3s 7/25 - POB fully updated to 3.25. End Game POB now has a mapping setup and a bossing gem link setup.
By the way, I tested the option without using the infernal legion together with the amulet. If the shards fly further, but there is a long delay before the explosion. And when everything came together, it seemed too fast. Only half the screen appears. However, that's when I understood why the spread of combustion is put - to increase this area. It would seem a fairly simple build and not very thoughtful mechanics, but there are serious nuances in small (at first glance) moments. Thanks for the update. And do you have a showcase on your channel that cleans this build? After all, I found your demonstration and a bunch of theoretical materials, but I don't see practical cleaning (mapping). Or just blind :D
@Loqures You're welcome, ignite prolif is sorely for clear speed and it works wonders. For footage of the build in action, check the description. I have abyss proj farm, wave 30 Sim, ubers and feared and more.
I've played popcorn SRS for the past 7 leagues and I WILL NEVER STOP!!! I enjoy it very much and since everybody will be playing the melee builds (melee is still melee, don't play that ew) the gear will be significantly cheaper imo
I got a cluster gem, like yours. Only issue it has "dread march" on it, which I think is the source of the +10% chaos res (which obviously isn't great for the SRS pop) I couldn't find one with hulking corpses. TBH this was the only one I could actually find, that was even close to yours. I only paid 1c for it though. I found a decent ghastly eye for my passive tree, in the guild chest though. It has the damage on minion skill use on it, but no fire damage. it does have both ice and lightning damage on it,. however. If you happen to have any spares for gems, that you want to sell, I have some C's, so we could do some deals? There were 2 Divs in the guild chest yesterday, too. I hesitated on taking them for like a minute, came back and they were gone. I did get some more C's and stocked up on other mats, though. I really should have taken those Divs, I don't have any yet, only got around 400c (which was mostly donated from my guild. I've probably made like 50-100 myself, just from drops)
Meh... I didn't realise my perfect Meat Sack would not be summonable again, after I took the Spectre gem out (while updating gear). I mean I guess that's why we have to buy them, to begin with. It just didn't click with me at first... I guess i still thought we could summon them for ourselves, once we had bought them. I guess I'll be sticking with the Frost Bearer in that 3rd slot, for now then. I do really like the Meatsack though, even just the Aesthetics of the guy. It's like a giant baby, if you watch how it attacks. Are there any other spectres, you would recomend, for the 3rd slot, that I can summon from Desecrate, please? It's just I ran Frost Bearers with Bitterdream, and proper support, and it was glorious. Just having one of them on my tank link, doesn't seem as worth it... especially having to listen to those mines going off, in your hideout, constantly :D I mean sometimes the Pale Seraphim will start spazzing out, big time, and you have to move, to get him to stop, but that's kind of endearing to me, Lol. I love that guys super jump that he does, he's a legit memeber of the team. Same with Tukohama vanguard. He sets the whole battlefield on fire with his totems, he's great. I did see this fire version of a Frost Bearer, had a totally different name though, like quick, or fast something. Maybe I should have grabbed him. If he's anywhere near as good as a Frost Bearer, and has fire attacks, that could be nuts. I guess I can get one from 6666, if I can find the name. Do you know this spectre, please mate, are they any good? Also I wanna say Thank you for all the help you've given me, and helped me with my return to the game. Your videos, and stuff have been a great resource. If you have a Patreon or something, I'll send you some pizza money (might have to wait till payday though, ha ha)
just a tip from some one new to minion builds, it is always nice, when you showcase shortly what this is going to look like in the end. great video thanks!
I thought about adding some other footage but it was after the fact sadly. I have some videos in the description that showcase the mapping, bossing, etc. Thank you for the reminder, Ill tighten up on that.
I think youll find this tanky enough, esp this league. Mapping feels good with ignite prolif w/o unleash. I think most people would enjoy they way I build it. GL on your start Union!
Also, my red slot is the last one on my chest piece. will this mess things up, having "fire penetration" on the last slot, please? I can go back to tabula for now.
Can you make your own cluster gem, please? I'm looking on the website to see if I can find anything like yours. I managed to get some gems with 12% minion health on them, which I'm using in the regular gem slots. I've not used a cluster gem before.
i picked this up on a whim because I've always preferred Psrs but goddamn this is a whole different of fun! gg man well written and informative guide. but how do you get the 3rd spectre without anointing Death Attunement? *also, in 3.25 Meat sack spectre lost the 40% maximum life to minions
Thanks so much for the kind words! So in leagues past you COULD get a 21/20 specter and find other sources of +1 to lvl of all or minion gems. But If I remember correctly that's the only way. It's not reliable to get 2 levels on the shield as we need the recovery mod from shaper. I'm sure there's other wacky methods but for me the build is fine tuned and with them destroying my meatsacks...there's really no reason for more than 2 anyways. Cheers my friend
So the Tukohama-Fella sets our Zambies on fire? That's cool. So until we have one of these (I could grab one now, but as discussed earlier, I'm just not ready to give up that frost bearer cheese just yet, as the clear speed at my level is still nuts) does the Fire-related stuff from the SRS serve as an activator for Combustion support on the Zombies, please? I'm wondering if I'm better off going back to Electric Zombies, until I switch back to the game plan for my Spectres. I will do this as soon as I get Lab 3 down and get "Mistress" set up my trigger wand, etc. Oh, BTW I didn't tell you. I had a wee snafu with the summoning of multiples. I think it was "echo" support (or maybe barrage, or both) so every time I summoned what I wanted, the first copy would resummon as something else. I swear I was on this for about half an hour, before I Googled it. I was sitting at a puzzle in the 2nd lab, too. Took off all my summons so I could concentrate. Then couldn't get my FB's back. have you ever ran into this faux pas? Lol.
Tukohama provides fire exposure which is quite nice, it does not set our zombies on fire. Far as summoning specters goes. I tend to keep a wand handy just for that. The trigger will interfere with it alot of times. Swamp gems into a new wand and you'll be good to go
@@tabl3s I got one of those eye gems for belts, that has fire damage for minions on it, so have a source for that mod now (I think, anyway) Once I unlock my 3rd spectre, will go and collect a Tukohama myself, and then get the little debuff, fella from 6666. that one seems harder to acquire. I take it with the tukohama guy I just have to go to the area where they spawn?
I switched to a trigger wand. Got the correct spectres now, too. Getting a proper feel for the build. As I'd been running that Frost Bearer cheese to level up, I wasn't sure how much damage the SRS was actually doing. Well put it this way, I notice no real difference in damage, maybe a little slower DPS because of the downtime, waiting for the Skulls to pop, but the damage is there. Removing those guys only really made just made me a tiny bit slower. I think if you actually made a build to support the Frost Bearers, could be amazing, though. That Sceptre I was using makes them really strong, too. You can have like 7 supports on them, right out of the gate with that sceptre, and two gems. I'm not sure how you'd do it though. Do we have ways to support their ice output even further, the way we do with fire/SRS, like a curse or something? I'm sure some people have came up with builds by now though. Cat is fully out of the bag, on the return of Frost Bearers.
I'm sure you could morph the build to run a full specter setup like you are speaking on but that is not the theme if my build. I also have not tested it and therefore cannot endorse it. I'm quite sure there's some frost bearer builds out there you can switch it, full specters is pretty fun!
@@tabl3s I have switched to your full build now, and I don't need the frost bearers TBH. I still only have 2 x spectres, so using tukohama and seraphim, and I'm cruising. I have made a cluster gem the same as yours, too. I am little worried about the 10+ chaos res from dread march, though. I wasn't aware we have to actually use level up to get the passives from the cluster gem though, it's my first time using one. I guess I can just ignore dread march and just take hulking corpses? I seen on your final version, you don't have dread march, so did you think this 10 chaos res was not the best? I mean I have the full minus 17 on my neck piece, so it would leave me at minus 7 on my SRS. Maybe this is OK? I don't know, this is why I'm asking you, ha ha. I missed your last reply, sorry about that. It didn't give me an alert. I'm gonna look through the comments, see if I missed any more.
Probably not one of the strongest, but I just turned one of the giants from the mines (act 3) into a Spectre. He looks awesome in Celestial. TBH, my favourite ones so far have been ranged attackers. the ones from either Pieties area that fire the spikes, or the little, weird chimeras from mailgaro's area. The top floor has these fire ones which are pretty cool.
@@tabl3s so is there a book we complete for spectres or something? I know you were saying people in your discord can hook you up with the ones from your video. Do they just have them loaded on to characters, or something? I noticed even after un-slotting the gem to change stuff around, when I wen back, the corpse was there, so I could revive my giant again. I thought that was a cool addition. It would be awesome if we could collect a compendium of spectre though, and even collect them like pokemon. I mean we already do it with beasts. Or is this actually in the game already, please mate?
@D00M3R_MAVS It's a chat channel in poe. #6666. Join that and people can spawn the corpse you need to use raise specter on. And once you raise it, you can then raise it again using desecrate anytime you need to.
Hello! Started with your build. There is one caveat though: I wouldn't advise using Unleash when you've taken gem of alternative quality. There are already 6 of them, it is better to just increase the damage. Although from the beginning I ran specifically with your option. However, through tests I came to the decision that it is better to remove unleash from the connection altogether. I thought the same about proliferation, but not here. Clearing fell in times without it)
Ya so people seem split on this particular issue. I'm not a fan of constantly spamming each individual spirit. To help (in my opinion) alleviate that, I run unleash. This allows to not invest too much into cast speed to make single summons feel good. We can then stats invest elsewhere. The downside of this is with base unleash we summon in groups of 4 and a quick re summon for 5 on bosses. And with awakened unleash it's groups of 5 with a quick resume on for 6. So we do end up with less dmg but a smooth running build. And since we aren't lacking in the damage department I felt it worth running the build this way. Of course you can always do it without unleash if you prefer, that's always an option you can take. But the prolif...that has to stay! Cheers, I hope you're enjoying yourself!
I also have zombies and specters dying all the time. + due to the fact that there were some incomprehensible changes to Desecrate - I don't have Pale Seraphim saved. The start seems like a disaster...lots of problems. Extremely much. I'm hoping crafting a wand with a trigger and using a block from an offering will fix the situation at least a little. I'm panicking
@Loqures zombs will die until they get proper lvls and life scaling. I don't typically lose them in mapping. Specters function the same way. Chaos dmg in particular is deadly since we don't scale it for the purposes of the tavukai. Your support minions aren't invincible. Trust the process. I've played this build ALOT, it's sound. And it will come together
which one is "uber" lab please, mate? is that the 3rd one? I just did the second one, and I took Commander, and I thought we were supposed to take Mistress, 3rd. I do already have my Tavukai, though. Maybe I was supposed to take Mistress 2nd? I doubt it'll matter too much anyway. It also gives me more time to mess around with stuff, before I need to start running the Trigger wand. Currently just seeing how far a combination of the SRS from your build and then the Bitterdream/frost bearer combo, too. I guess you are trading some of the defence in having (I have two, at the moment) tanking spectres, for this absurd DPS and CC output from the frost Bearer set up. It's cool though as I can easily switch back to tanking spectres, just by changing gems and the Spectres I have summoned. I really do enjoy the freedom you have with builds in this game.
@@tabl3s I took commander for second one. That's what you said to take in the notes, on the 1-90 Pob build. It's cool though, either way. I doubt it's gonna ruin the build to take a passive or two out of order, Lol. But yeah man, great game. Any other builds you like playing, at the minute? I've hardly touched a whole bunch of the starting classes.
@D00M3R_MAVS oh ya it's not a big deal at all. I used to only play minions but this league I'm trying alot of spells and melee. Only my lacerate glad has proven successful but I'm working on what is hopefully a new killer build. So far this league I only have one successful build and 3 failed builds that for various reasons I decided wasn't worth finishing. I'll keep playing until I find one that I think is suitable for myself and my viewers :) Wish I was a bit more like Aer0 or Mathil, those guys pump out great builds constantly haha.
@@tabl3s Also, I found this flask in the guild bank. It is like a regular mana flask, only skills cost zero, during it's effect. So what I've been doing is spamming SRS until my flask runs out, then hit the flask and get the free casts. Most of the time stuff is dead before I can do this, but it means I only need 1 mana flask, and I can never run out. The build gains charges so fast, you basically never have to worry about flasks anyway, this is just another layer is insanity.
Been using shield dash with the surfboard, when I went back to Wraeclast beach :'D it's funny, with the absolute army in tow. I had that ring slotted too, that gives you the wolves. so at times I'd have like 10 wolves, 6 zombies, 6 SRS, 1 x spectre and the gollum. BTW, can we cast more Spectres, when the gem levels up, or does your build only have one? I just want to try the 3 x frost bearers before it gets nerfed (as looks like it might) they can do some absurd damage with the set up that someone gave me today. When combined with your SRS Pop build, I'm doing ungodly, fast clears for my level. I got my fastest kills on most bosses, this time around (was already incredibly quick, even with just the SRS) PS: Shield dash is nice. I'm not sure why I wasn't using it prior. I think maybe as I had skins for flame dash, I used that more (and I like that it has 3 x charges) but the shield dash can cover so much space. definitely an adopter of this skill now. The combo of them both for traversal is perfect though. Flame dash for ledges and stuff.
Shield Charge is goated imo. Far as specters go. Tukohama Vanguard, pale Seraphim and frost are the three to have. If you only have two. Drop frost in lieu of the other two. They are the best for this build.
@@tabl3s I'm just using the Frost Bearers right now, while I level. I was given the Staff to get the most out of them, and they hit really hard (I'm just level 59 though, so still levelling. I'm just about to fight brine king) So I have forgone the tanky spectres for some extra DPS. I am almost level 60 now though, so will be able to use my trigger wand. I will hold off until I get the mistress passive from uber lab though (per your recommendation) so I will probably just have fun with these frost bearers for now. As they require a special staff and 2 support gems to get them to really shine though, I'll have to retire them, when it's time to switch to trigger wand. PS: when you said "frost" did you mean the spider-guy from your video, or the frost bearer? I had thought of just using the frost bearer with the links from your build, but you get so much damage when running with the staff (I forget the name, has a bunch of level 15 frost skills that support the frost bearers) it's just so busted. Apparently the frost bearer only just came back with this league, and might end up getting nerfed. have you tried it yet? you just need the staff, then greater volley and echo support. I have 2 of them now, and they're that aggressive, they're often killing stuff before my SRS even gets to it. I imagine I'm going to need the spectres with meatshield for later though, does the tanking actually come into play for your build a lot? That's something I have been meaning to ask you, hopefully the question isn't lost in this sea of words. How much does the meatshield/tanky side of the spectres come into play. Are they saving you a lot of damage?
@@tabl3s I just have meat sheild on the gollum right now, as had been trying the frost bearer thing, with the special staff. is just a slight detour though, will switch back to the plan, as soon as I'm read to use my trigger wand.
about the shield dash, flag combo. are you still using this, do you use it all the time, or just get a charge and save it for a boss, or something? I just got those gems from the library, so got them slotted. Just wondered how you typically used them. Someone else in my guild said the buff from the flag is pretty good for earlier game, minion stuff, too. I guess the best thing to do is try and build up as much of the resource as you can, via shield dash, and then the flag buff lasts longer and has more range, I think.
@@tabl3s I got it from the description on this video. there was two links, one for earlier and one for endgame. hopefully I haven't made too many mistakes.
@@tabl3s I think it must just be for levelling, or did you not change the first one? I got both links from the description in this video, have been following the first one. I think you have shield dash and banner on lab 2.
@@tabl3s yeah dude... from act 3 until endgame, you have defiance banner with shield dash... so I shouldn't bother with this gem then? (did you miss it when you updated the pobs?) I mostly use flame dash for movement, as well BTW... so can you give me an example of how you use shield dash for movement, please?
Unlocked my 3rd Spectre tonight. I was using a Frost Bearer in the 3rd slot for a little, but I switched to the Perfect Meatsack, to see what it's like. You think the Frosty is better in the 3rd slot now, than the Meatsack?
Hey tabl3s, I hope you're doing well. Thanks for the guide, what should we use instead of perfect meatsack? They removed the 40% increased maximum life buff
I knooooooooow what a bummer!! I'd stick with running to specs. Pale Seraphim and Tukohama Vanguard. Maybe demon harpy but I'll need to look into that.
@@tabl3s Perfect Forest Warrior (Culling Strike + Onslaught) or Perfect Warlord (Vitality, Enduring Cry + Shared Endurance Charges)? I personally enjoy sacrificing a ring slot for a Hungry Loop with Animate Guardian (tank) or of Smiting (for AoE curse on hit) + Meat Shield/Elemental Army/Minion Life/Empower on as many minion builds as I can fit it wearing Kingmaker (or Dying Breath/ cheap option), Gruthkul's Pelt, Leer Cast, Asenath's Touch & Windscream.
@@AoDIronMask Warlord IMO, endurance charges are too good. Do we know for sure they give use endurance charges? There's other specs that also give endurance charges but only to themselves.
Just have a question on the Stone golem of safe guarding. It reduces Minions Life by 50%. wouldn't that be a huge damage loss. Or is it better to just use the standard Stone Golem? BTW loving the build, got to t16 maps no problem. Though scaling from here I'm having some issues with funds :)
@@tabl3s Thank you for your reply. I already have the Stone Golem of Safeguarding so perfect. Just thought I needed clarification, still new to this build
I forgot to ask you. Why do you actually want the cast speed, because of the SRS of enormity, please? Does it lower your cast speed in some way? I'm at the node now, so can start taking it, but I thought I would find out for sure (as it's not on your actual build, I don't think) EDIT: nevermind, I see you do take this node, only later. So this would be when you usually slot the SRS of enormity? OK I'll take the Node. It has some mana regen too, which is always welcome. I have 3 auras on now, and a slither of mana. I rarely need to pot though, got it under control.
@@tabl3s BTW mate, did you keep a spell like fire ball slotted, so you had some proper single target? I mostly use it for popping jars and stuff, as it;s much faster than clicking on them. I do find at times though (just starting act 3) that some of the yellow-name enemies can be bit of a damage sponge, so throwing a few fire balls can speed up those instances. Maybe I should be running vitality? I often find my SRS are alive. most stuff dies before they even pop. Do you layer the amulet with the gem that does the fire damage to them, to kill them faster, maybe? I have melted everything to this point, I might just be running into high fire res? I'm going to aim for more minion damage when I move on to the next stage of the passive tree. I take it that minion health is probably even more important though, to scale the "pop" from the SRS up. Having a blast learning this build though. I was wanting something new to play, and I found it. Someone randomly linked me to this video, on a reddit thread, or I'd never have known about it.
what stuff do you have set to be autocast with your wand, please? I am starting to realise that this build has a lot of abilities to press. I currently have my SRS, zombies, curse, bone-thingy and also desecrate. I am running flame dash, but I see you also have shield dash slotted. There must be something I'm not quite getting (again, lol... sorry)
Check out 9:05 on the video. You need to have a wand with said trigger craft. Then you link desecrate on the top gem slot, then bone offering...both linked. Then I use the third slot for tempest shield I believe
@@tabl3s Thanks. someone gave me one of those earlier, but I'm a little ways off being able to use it. Lol, I've been manually casting everything :'D desecrate, use bone on it, if I don't have the buff up, then hit the enemies with some desecrate, throw SRSR at them, curse if I feel it's needed, and then blow them all up to keep the buff going. I'm also running skellies at the minute, just because I got the celestial skins, and it looks awesome. You can keep them up for a fairly long time, using the bone move. I'll have to swap them out, once I get more stuff for the build, but I'm only level 25 at the minute, so got some room to experiment. I used to play Iron Fist in marvel Heroes, so I'm used to the hotbar dancer, playstyle :'D PS: can you craft a trigger on to your wand, earlier on, or should I just wait till I'm a higher level to mess with that? I have C's to spend, so I can always buy stuff as well. Seems like I probably shouldn't buy stuff for levelling though, just for the end game builds.
@D00M3R_MAVS I don't typically do the craft till maps but you can use it earlier if you want. I believe you can get the craft in the acts now. You'll have to look up where exactly, I don't remember I'm afraid
I looking for the build but i have a little question, why u use 6x to your DPS? We only summon 1 SRS per cast and the more Summon from Unleash is already in PoB and is a 44% more
Are you talking about the config check box that says "Do you wait for max unleash stacks"? If so I have changed the SRS count to 5 in the End Game POB and checked that box to provide a more reliable DPS number. Thank you for letting me know.
@@tabl3s Well YT removes my long text with a reload.... Short what i want to say, can rewrite the long text if needed PoB can calc your Summon Rate, each Summon can only Pop onces --> Average Damge (this is the Pop Dmg) x the Hit Rate (Cast Rate + Seal Gain Rate) Numbers are from first PoB left side Minions Average Damage 1,111,740 Cast Rate 1,68 Seal Rate 0,71 Combine Hit Rate by PoB (no idea why a bit more) --> 2,43 (see Minions Hit Rate, without Unleash is equal to our own Cast Rate) Result in 1,111,740x2,43 = 2.701.528 DPS + a possible Preload (1 times Dmg) of 6x Minion x Average Dmg ~6,6M (Hit not DPS!) So sadly your POB show a bit Number of Real DPS. But its only what i see maybe i missing something
@dardrothahre4233 I get what your saying. I believe the option in config does all this for you. Since I only summon without unleash for ignite prolif, I don't really care about my hit dps as everything is getting obliterated by ignite and the prolif. If using unleash, keep the count as your max seal summon amount and pob will Calc it out. I did my Hit dps x number of srs and it gave me the same number pob was giving. So all is well. I.e. on max seal summon in the end game is 5 srs, that "group" equals 54 mill dps. I'm not trying to get too bogged down into the minut details as the build preforms super well. By that's just my opinion
on your level 90 POB guide, you have act 5 missing on the gem links. I then see on map start you have dropped predator on your SRS completely. You think I'll still need Predator for act 5, please? (I just started it, and using a 5 link set up from previous acts (added predator and minion life, from the basic set up with combustion, etc) I have all the gems to do the map version, just wondering if I should keep predator slotted for now. TBH I don't use predator a lot. I just use it as an extra debuff on big targets, as you don't really get a chance to lay it down, in most cases.
I drop pred support as soon as I can. It's nice early on but it requires,a button press and I hate that personally. You can drop it whenever you feel comfortable.
what stuff on the passive tree would you say is more important to get first, please? I was looking at your guide, and there's quite a few levels on the first example. I'm not sure what direction to go in, to start with.
It doesn't matter. Rush MI first, then you free to pick up passives freely in any direction. So long as by the end of that section, your matching the pob. Your good to go.
@@tabl3s thanks. Just noticing big differences with my current toxic rain trickster, because I took the spell nullify stuff, and more health and things. I remember last time I played, 4 years ago, I was getting practically one shot by the belly of the beast. this time, they did next to nothing to to me, and I nuked them in seconds. I learned not to go for all damage, lol.
@@tabl3s is that the one the build hinges upon? (the explodey one?) I got that, and then I grabbed the big node I passed, with 20 to int, shield, etc. Then I started going left for minion damage. I feel getting more damage to start with is goping to better for this build. Once I get a few damage nodes, I'll look for defence.
one last thing, please mate. you have taken the "1% chance to block damage, per 5% block chance on shield" only the shields you have equipped, don't seem to have any innate block chance. Does this passive maybe use your overall block chance, or something please? I'm actually using a shield that has 26% chance right now, but it's just because I'm levelling, and was the best thing I have found in the wild (has some good res and stuff on it, it's good for me right now) it's a block chance/es split shield. So I would get 5% from this, anyway. I'm just wondering how you use this passive, if your shield is an Es one, and doesn't have block chance on it. Thanks. EDIT: ok it probably has block chance, you just can't seer that on the Pob build. looking at the video, it says 22% block. I have probably answered this, but will leave comment up anyway.
What are the 4th 5th and 6th best options for spectres. It's really hard to get pale seraphim and arena master on console xbox. Really good guide! ill be league starting this and following you! Are you streaming on twitch?
Ideally the three I listed in the video. The arena master and Chieftains don't rly work as we're constantly going through srs, the chance they get any meaningful buff in the 2 seconds they're even alive is slim to none. Meatsack can come from ritual and tukohama from Act 6 so there's your first two. Tuko is great for bosses to get up exposure. I generally run 2 of those until I get a pale. I'll see if I can do some looking into before Friday and give you some options. Bare minimum perfect meatsack and tukohama. I'll try and find you some more though. Thank you Ghost!
I will be live on twitch most likely. Same name as my channel. Feel free to drop in and ask questions. I'm duo leveling with my brother and we Like to keep up pace so I'll do my very best to answer any questions you may have.
When you advised I take the "spell cast speed wheel" if I used a specific gem early (I forget which) do you mean "Nimbleness" please, or something that you have taken in your PoB guide, please? I am just looking around the start, for some spell cast speed, and that's the first one I spotted. It has crit as well though, so not sure if this is what you mean, or not. EDIT: I found the other reply, and grabbed a quote, for context " if you use the trans gem early, make sure to grab that cast speed wheel. It'll help alot with it feeling smoother"
@@tabl3s found it. it's right in front of one of the life nodes you have listed under "lab one" so you'd advise taking this node, or is it only if I took the "trans" gem? I'm not actually sure what that is, ha ha :D
@D00M3R_MAVS In the end game we use Summon Raging Spirit of Enormity. That is a trans figured version of the base gem. I take that wheel as soon as I can if I run that gem early. Otherwise, just spend points as directed in the pob.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F70i97T0o4I.htmlsi=gnXsZdD41aow7qVs Peep this video. I'd recommend specing into tujen over rog for expedition and srs is great for that mechanic. This tree is good for early game map sustain as well. Feel free to try out other mechanics but this video will give you a basis for where to start. As you will take all the map related nodes first, to help with map drops
@@tabl3s Thanks. I missed this reply, too. I started by going up the middle, getting the Kirac stuff on the left, now I'm going for the shaper node on the lefty, then will get the one on the right. Just peeking at that video, seems you did a similar start? I just found info that said to do this first, and then you can respec into what you want to focus on, later. I have loads of the orbs to respec the tree, like at least 50, so should be good.
Absolute top Tabl3s! Thank you for your videos! I played the previous league with your build and killed all the bosses! Thank you for the content and greetings from the Russian Federation!
Mmmm, interesting question and not something I've thought about. You are correct upon further reading. The -10 res lasts for the duration for the ignite using said support. It still "works" as the weaker ignite causes -10, and then the MI ignite would overwrite it. Gaining the benefit from the -10 wheb it's hit, then overwriting after I believe. The best use case is if you aren't interested in the ignite from MI, say for bossing... then it'd work perfectly while using ele focus on your main six link. But while mapping its use is lessened to a serious degree. Though still helpful in some fashion. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Ele focus is a solid setup for bossing, so I think it's still worth keeping that setup in the build. God Bless
yo Tabl3s, they killed meatsack, ehrn i get a 3rd spectre what would you reccomend after vanguard and pale seraphim? maybe grab a guardian turtle and run something else for a 50% aura .... Anger? Grace?
The issue with the turtle is its insanely slow. And we don't run convocation so that's out imo. You could any number of buffing specter so long as they aren't slow. Though srs will get little benefit. Lemme get home and look around for some decent specters to run. Double vanguard isn't bad for more consistent exposure uptime, esp on multi target fights. Food for thought
@@tabl3s still running a +1 wand, so only 2 spectres, but when i eventually get that and an empower I will have lvl 30 SRS of enormity, the build is coming along great, did a t17 , but as of right now they are kinda struggle. (lvl 91) Just wanted to share the shield i made with chaos spam, lmao, I took a damage hit but the build is so much better now. - Recover 4% life - Minions have 33% max life - Maximum Life 151 - Chance to Block 33% - 13 % chance to block spell damage my block is now 71/78 without Ruumi's. also I am not even sure I want to use Skin of the lords, I bought a +2 "Zahndethus' Cassock" which i feel is incredibly under appreciated and very good for this build, linked up using socket method ( use vaal orbs to get 4l then use tainted, colouring this with vaal orbs was very easy cost 8 vaal 8 chrome) the 50% chaos resist is great, the ES it gives is nice for EB and the crowning stat line on the thing is the 100% consecrated ground on block, it makes my regen go from like 300 to 900. Still able to get 5k life and climbing because the Zahndethus' Cassock doesnt have a life mod you can use the mastery for 15% increased) food for thought I guess, Lords is super good , BUT its really out of my price range, and I think maybe I dont think the potential difference is worth it, i think spending 10+div on a 4 empower and crafting a +2 trigger wand is a better idea!~ Cheers and thanks for the guide, even if im kinda not following it to a tee!
@@tabl3s I am sorry if i keep coming back here to discuss the build so much but I figured something out, in your build you allocate fearsome force, for the 20% minion Multi, but some food for thought, I was thinking about a 3rd spectre, There is absolutely no way for me to get spectre boots since my boots kinda pidegon hole me since the stats on them are so good. anyways the food for thought is, if you cant quite get the 3rd spectre, allocating death attunment instead of fearsome force , and then using the spectre to summon a perfect pain artist , it's fast enough to keep up and the aura gives allies 30% crit multi instead of 20% , since the 60% critchance is just whatever on this build. and if you can fit a 3rd spectre in WITH the fearsome force annoint, 50 crit multi is kinda REALLY busted. Edit, after using this set up I think it's okay, BUT the damage uptime isnt as consistent as fearsome force so thats sorta a preference, Definitely a SOLID option for a 3rd spectre though.
I've never played summoner before. Does this build use any of the skins, from the summoner MTX packs, please? Also, how do you typically level a summoner, please?
I only use the srs mtx that changes them into bats I believe. The full leveling guide is within the league start pob. I start srs at lvl 4 and run MI the whole game.
@@tabl3s I was reading that before. fireball till level 4? I have the stronger version of the SRS gem at level 1, so if I get my int high enough to use it, might be able to slot it right away.
@D00M3R_MAVS if you use the trans gem early, make sure to grab that cast speed wheel. It'll help alot with it feeling smoother. Also, I only use fireball till 4 cause we get it on the beach. Feel free to use whatever you'd like.
hey! i am considering league starting your build, but i really hate dying. i noticed your early maps version has a 5k phys max hit and even the endgame version provides a 13k phys max hit. so from your experience, how tanky does the character feel?
For me personally, I think it feels very tanky. Esp with the shaper recovery on block mod. However even at max block you will die from time to time. I still move out of slams, make sure I don't get overwhelmed etc. See the link in my description for the old abyss farm from a league or two ago. Massive amounts of mobs and I'm able to tank almost all of it. Some hits will one shot but full pure block just feels amazing tbh.
On the act 3 set up where you have both raise spectre and stone gollum, buffed by minion life and meat shield on the same 4 slot, does the order matter, please? I see on the example, you have gollum last. I have some gloves I can use, with the red slot first. This is why I'm asking. will I need to use some chroms to get the red slot last, or is it fine to go gollum, raise spectre, meat shield, minion life, please?
Go to level 90 easy with this build. But I'm struggling to scale damage for end game, any tips ? I have the amulet, not yet quality on gems. I'm on a 5 link without fire pen though, is that a massive boost ????
Oh yes of course, scaling the life, the gem levels, having a six link, it all scales damage at the end of the day. Quality does as well. Just gotta upgrade piece by piece my man. I'm in the same boat with my bleed build.
Why not using the dark Marionette spectres with wraithlord as autobombing MI army? 😅 All these resistances on necro push it towards SRS tho... And is it worth to use blessing on 6link for faster pops? 14.3% more hp degen.
It's a different setup. I would like to plan on making that build, I just love my srs tbh lol. Far as blessing goes it won't work. You have to have an aura linked and active for it to take dmg over time. Atleast according to the gems text.
one last thing, dude. why did you take the minion mastery that gives minions 8% against res of enemies that are cursed, but you aren't running any curses. Is this a mistake, or am I missing something, please? hope you see this, as I can't work it out.
Looks like you can get Pale Seraphin from league mechanic the places where you discover ore and give you a shrine buff sometimes will spawn pale seraphes
@@tabl3s Another thing is that they change were we get Trigger a Socketed Spell is not from betrayal anymore, is in the Refinery act 9, there is a secret place called Refinery tunnel Would be nice to update the pob to warn the new people about it
One thing to keep in mind I guess is that when you switch from normal SRS to SRS of Enormity it'll feel clunky as hell. I league started this last league but the difference in cast speed on the SRS made me stop playing it.
why no bone rings till tavukai? is this because too much minion health? I have one slotted that just has damage and attack speed on it at the minute. I did think my SRS are maybe alive for too long, but I put it down to maybe using vitality. I need to jiggle some stuff, and see what is going on. EDIT: my bone ring has health and minion damage. I have a few items with minion damage though. am I not supposed to use any of this stuff, until I have the Tavukai slotted? I have one, just not high enough level to use it yet. I want to make sure my SRS are working properly. I have the gem set up and right passives. I think maybe some of my gear is getting in the way of them popping sooner, however.
Generic minion res increases their fire resistance. Thus theu take less fire dmg, resulting in slower pops. Tavukai is chaos dmg taken so once we get that, then it's safe to take generic res to prop up our other minions ele defenses and not have to worry ourselves with slower pop times
Tell me please. In the version when there is already an amulet - do I remove the Infernal Legion support? Does he stay? Because in the connections that I see in the current pob, it is absent, but in those videos that I watched from you (which were filmed by you 3-4 months ago) - this support is present. I can't figure out how to do it better... . And now I'm testing ignite polyfiration - I can't understand whether it works for cleaning or not... . I would be very grateful for an answer!
I forgot to add it into the end game pob but yes I do use infernal for both bossing and mapping. You can skip it if your OK with longer pop times on bossing though. So SRS + Legion + 4 dmg supports for bossing and SRS + Legion + 3 dmg supports + Ignite Prolif for mapping. In very hard juicing mapping like Wave 30 Sims or 80% deli ignite prolif falls off pretty hard and I'd suggest using the bossing setup. Ideally your chest will have 1 red and 5 blue but they can be expensive so feel free to mix and match supports depending on budget. You can always get a proper chest later on. Hope this answers your questions
@@tabl3s And you also advise to use, and use elemental focus support in connection - won't it block the possibility of setting fire to enemies - accordingly, block the possibility of a good sweep thanks to ignite proliferation?
@@tabl3s Yes, I understood that everything depends very much on the situation. It's just that a long time ago (three years ago) when using tavukai and infernal legion - I got the problem that my srs almost did not fly anywhere) Cleaning was as bad as possible. I will then try to reach the start on the standart until the 8th act at least, and experiment with the gems
@Loqures Just to be clear. I use ignite prolif for everything other than main bosses like eater, searing, context, etc. I swap supports for them as I'm not spending time killing trash. So for mapping and general content we do not use ele focus in the same setup as ignite prolif as that just wouldn't work. If I can find the time tonight I will update the pob to reflect TWO setups. One for bossing and one for general content.
@Loqures ignite prolif really does help alot in mapping. But as I said previously, super juice content like high deli scaling it falls off and you'll have to swap to something more hard hitting and consistent.
Hi i did not see you using the annoint death atuunment, and i have lvl 24 raise scpectr, i wuold need lvl 25 or 26 in order to summon 3 spectres no? im sorry im litle bit lost, i got +1 all mininon skill on wand and +2 on helmet, an 21 level gem on helmet so, i dont jnow how you reach 3 spectres, thanks.
If your wand is +2, helm is plus 2 and raise specter is level 21. Then it will be level 25, providing 3 specters. Or you could just annoit it either one works. Can also get plus 1 on the shield as well.
9:10 ah so the wand set up is a self sufficient source of bone offering. that's cool. so do you only use desecrate to proc bone offering, I don't need to be casting it on enemies? Lol. and if the answer is "no"... I haven't even been doing that anyway... I'm asking for a Friend.
@@tabl3s Thanks. I just got Predator. So we use that to direct the SRS? I thought it was just support, but after plugging it in, it gives you a skill as well. I have room for everything. I just put the body generator on my run button (as I want to keep the skellies for now, so all slots being used on the hotbar) unless I start using control (second hotbar) which I don't think I've seen anyone really do in this game.
also, we're supposed to keep desecrate at level 1, right? I'm sure I read that somewhere. have been leveling up my bone spell though, so hopefully that was correct. I can always get another, however. I think I'm like 25 levels off using my trigger wand though. Might have to just buy one for now, so I can get those autocasts happening. PS: when it says they autocast when we cast a spell that has an 8 second CD, what am I using to proc those, please mate? I swear I'll be done with questions soon, the necromancer class is totally new to me in this game though, and this is a very specific flavour. I just want to be sure I'm doing it right. PPS: I keep posting new comments, as often replies can get lost. another youtuber told me to just leave new comments, to make sure questions weren't lost.
@D00M3R_MAVS No worries my friend. Keep desecrate at lvl 1. Srs is a spell so it will always count towards activating the trigger. This means that so long as your setup is correct and you have the trigger, you will be at 75/75 pure block 100% of the time.
@@tabl3s Thanks. I guess I'll find out. ha ha. Should I just wait to use the trigger wand I have, or maybe try and add the affix to something (I assume we can craft the trigger?) I think the one I have is like level 50, so a little way off.
Sure if you can spare the res and other mods. If your gonna do a unique belt tho, darkness enthroned is just far better and you can use various jewels including the dot multi jewel to scale the ignite even more. I personally dont like the belt but thats just me.
@@tabl3s Thanks. I'm at around 200% now, and just taking the node so that auras use a bit less, too, so probably about the right time to take it. I might wait till I take this health regen and armour node, first though. I have over 2k health, and my around was over 600 (last I checked, so could be higher than that now) but would like to be sure, if I'm going to lose my shield. Also, someone gave me this staff (Bitterdream shadow sceptre) with all these ice skills on it, and this spectre called "frost bearer" and they told me to run it with the greater volley and echo support... It's actually pretty gnarly. It means I just have the Gollum on the minion life/meat shield right now, but until I change to trigger wand, and get mistress, it seems like a nice source of supplemental damage. Have you used this before? PS: I got to level 54, so using the Tavukai now. It's now how fast the skulls blow up now. Its like it's transformed, because the skulls were actually headbutting stuff to death a lot, before.
This guide is meant to be nookie friendly. AG can be confusing for newer players. On top of that it's weak to chaos dmg since we don't scale it and in my experience it dies more often than I'd like. So we go a different route that won't have you replacing AG gear on the regular.
@@tabl3s I deleted the comment about the chaos res, as I found out the answer. I went and got one with -17%, and 40 int (the other affixes are high, but not maxed) cost me a few chaos, but looks to be almost as good as it can be. I got the SRS gem and the support one as well. Where does that special SRS gem come from, please?
@D00M3R_MAVS You can do it or go to that chat channel and someone else can desecrate the body for you. You can then raise that specter and now you have it.
@@tabl3s Thanks. I will do that. At what level will I be able to do this, pls? I am going to make my Necro tonight, probably. I imagine I need to be levelled up a bit before I have this option.
Same. Which is why I didn't include it in my build. It's not beginner friendly, we don't focus chaos res on minions and it's just not worth restocking an ag every week. So we just don't run it
They aren't hitting as consistent or as fast as melee poison for one vs the duration of poison. And that would force us to drop either commander of Darkness or bone barrier both of which I think are just plain better options. We could pick up a forbidden flesh and flame but I'm hard pressed to give up my rare jewels just to convert 50% to chaos.
@@tabl3s Yeah, it s still a great build! I am having a blast with it, thank you. Also, I replaced the Meat Sack with Forest Warrior for the Culling Strike and its great for bosses.
@@tabl3s this build is on my short list of league starts. Just trying to hash out what league mechanic I want to focus on this league. Thanks for your guide.
During league start you run with anything you can get sockets and colors on. The only items I pick up 100% of the time are bone rings, minon shield and convoking wands. Never know what you might find. Beyond that I typically rog craft my early and mid game gear and rog/craft (mostly craft) my late game gear. Pure armor bases are what we're after, for your end game setup.
@copandonz.g.8178 My impression is no. That's referring go the literal base suffix. NOT the shaper mod. One is "gain" the other is recover. That's my take atleast.
@sonrisa420keepinitreal6 Oh ty for pointing that out, I totally meant to change that! Ues they do cancel each other out. I prefer a rare belt for eaisering gearing and a ghastly eye jewel. Far as that particular belt goes, mobs rly don't stand still in this game so I don't see the point in running some ground degen. It's not very good dot dps anyways. Feel free to use it if you'd like but I'm not a fan personally.
@Barony03 Personally. I think it's a much lesser form. The block is conditional where as necros is not. Guardian doesn't get 20% more minion life and nerco does. Guardian doesn't have leech and wa for your support minions, nerco does. For non MI Guardian is fantastic. But for popcorn, it simply lacks the tools to be a greater build.
I opted to not use any timeless jewels even though they are quite powerful. Timeless mechanics are very difficult for new players and isnt in line with my direction for the overall build.
