although not even close to his playstyle, I used to touchscreen with one hand on a TWENTY INCH MONITOR and oh boy was that painful. bonk must have massive bulging muscles in that arm lol
o yea i wanted to add when i took those months long breaks, until 2019 it wasn't as much my touchscreen acting up but the screens breaking, usually from either anger issues or just being unlucky. i did put down the game for a while last year because of input latency but it won't seem like it'll be an issue again anytime soon. and also HD isn't borderline impossible to play; it is more difficult to learn than with a tablet or mouse in my experience, but not to that extent. nonetheless i'm glad i could help you out on this video
Watching you basically point at the circles like "Oh? You're approaching me?" while the screen violently shakes in terror as you beat the shit out of your laptops keyboard just made me burst out in laughter. I love it man, keep at that wacky playstyle. :)
@@chasecall1025 when touchpad on my notebook was lagging, at one moment osu! detected touchscreen while I played with tablet. So i have "td" pass on 6 star image material)
@@chasecall1025 tablet was detected as touchscreen on cross screen jumps when the touchscreen detection was implemented. That used to be a huge problem for rafis
I hope his play style doesn’t get detected as touchscreen. Playing like that is unique and challenging so he doesn’t deserve any controversy in my opinion
Ah yes, the good old finger gun technique I remember playing like that with my friend at school, everything was cool til i reached for the real gun in my backpack
this is my playstyle too! i never knew someone also played like this! theres so many weird gimmicks to this playstyle but i got used to it pretty quick, been rocking it for a year
This reminds me of this one smash player named Borp, who never used any sort of movement tech, which was highly unusual for a pro smash player, but he just kept winning.
I played with a touchscreen for a bit. I only stopped because of joint issues but honestly the vision blocking isn't as much of an issue as you would think. Your arm isn't in one place all the time, the movement allows you to see the map fine.
Im glad you got to contact Bonk and work with him to make this video, Youre doing a great job with these and I am looking forward to new and interesting videos
Bruh and I thought Goink was a very good touch screen player but then there’s Bonk who’s most likely top 100 status (even though like Brushmaster said his play style removes almost everything of what touch screen is). Wish TD gave more pp tbh it’s sad seeing them at only 4 digit rank when they should be much higher in the ranks
i also want to add, SapphireGhost is actually probably the person that made this playstyle popular. If you don't know who SapphireGhost is, he was a top American player back in 2011-2014 who used this exact playstyle. He was extremely good with HDDT and very awkward patterns, just like Bonk. I'm not sure why people think that this playstyle is the same as touchscreen or why this playstyle even got any sort of controversy. It's literally the same as tablet. Yes you can see where the notes are and just move to it, but there is still a lot of muscle memory behind it and a lot of work to keep your arm up. This playstyle is totally viable and shouldn't be put together with touchscreen, because touchscreen makes osu! a completely different kind of game because there is barely any aim involved, whereas Bonk's playstyle still has that aspect of the game, making it just a different playstyle. It's like playing osu! on a giant wacom tablet with a screen. So how is it at all controversial?
Completely agree. The screen argument is so silly given that hand-eye/input device-eye coordination is a skill regardless of whether there is a screen there, it's just that you have more practice with your hands. The solution is just getting good
The best argument for touchscreen needing to be treating separately relates to how the normal difficulty curve for distance spacing breaks down thanks to using multiple fingers. This is not the case for Bonk's playstyle, so there's no reason he should be treated the same. The greatest advantage this playstyle gives is being able to see the notes and the input method simultaneously, which doesn't break the game in any way.
Tried it on stream for fun - definitely playable but you need to set your tablet into “mouse mode” for it to work though (because the usual pen/Ink mode will make your cursor locked to the floor + only moving in a flat plane)
@@ZeroRadd hmm weird, cause it works good in osu for my CTL-472 with Windows Ink enabled (under stock Wacom drivers) *now I’m using Hawku drivers with “absolute” mapping mode
@@iZ3C0LD7 no i mean i have a wacom intous s, that at the begining didnt work when windows ink was activated, but it worked with both pen and mouse mode, i just expressed myself wrong cuz english isn't my first language
I think it also has the advantage that you can use your less dominant hand to aim since it's easier to point your finger at things than to hold a pen and do precise movements with it and thus being able to use your dominant and generally already better trained hand for tapping, but that's just what I think and obviously is not a written fact but just an assumption. Also if you are ambidextrous, well then good for you
i cant imagine the strain on his aim arm, fuck bro this is just impressive, if this gets ts detected in the future id be stupid this is just cool and unique, monster player
Bonk playstyle is literally same as sapphireghost, which is one of the best old player. But instead using pen, he is using his finger, which is much more harder because of the latency and laptop screen that can make dragging much harder because of friction between his fingers, that sometimes is sweaty.
I used to think everybody plays like this, but turns out there’s like a total of three of us. Big respect for playing without something backing the screen, I had to use a cinder block cause it’s the only thing heavy enough I won’t knock off my desk.
trust me, this playstyle is really fun than tablet or just tapping the circles. this is coming from an osu!droid player that likes to drag so it might not be as accurate but im sure touchscreen doesn't have anywhere near the delay that osu!droid has, once you get used to it, you barely feel the delay
His style is a hybrid it's neither touch nor tablet it's just different because he's using his hand as the pen on a tablet that happens to be his screen for better or for worse
I have the same laptop as him. And trust me, touchscreen while alternating is absolutely impossible. Holding my arm up for 1 minute makes my arm hurt so much, and its tapping with it is so high latency. Idk how hes doing this
Imo, there's nothing wrong with touchscreen and keyboard but there's something with full touchscreen. Touchscreen and keyboard is just another way to play the game, he stills need to tap fast on a keyboard on stream maps like almost everyone else, he still needs to have the stamina in his fingers to do long streams.
