Fun fact: My original draft for the Video Description exceeded 5000 characters and had to be trimmed. So you'd better read it before asking any questions.
Now a serious solution to his skillset problem that would need only one strengthening: make his quick buff party wide and grant self a special buff with "All skills that target only myself become party wide this turn". Broken? Definitely, probably less so if it only shared the first buff received, but dude has been a joke for too long and this is a video about Double Castoria. Can't break the game any more than this.
"If you have her, that is." Even that one is debatable. A single Castoria with a Tamamo or Paracelsus should go a long way of simplifiying farming even if you don't have your own. Huge QoL improvement to every single player, especially when you consider that Arts has always been the most f2p friendly play style anyway. -Bonus points for Waver finally getting a rest lol.-
@@gaoaibai6243 Sure, but in contrast: Quick looping is straight up inaccessible unless you have your own Skadi, a (preferrably MLB) KScope, _and_ a number of good quick loopers (or Dantes). I'm not saying there's no reason to go for your own Castoria, but not having her doesn't mean you get locked out of all the improvements she brings to Arts farming.
@@nineflames2863 Eh, support Skadi and your own Bride and Waver with a Plugsuit makes quick looping possible. Well, most of the time. As long as you have a Kscope. A few potential loopers need a little more help (and maybe a facecard or two).
Literally the game meta. Dont expect it to go away. I just wonder what DW is gonna do now that they created the card trifecta established meta. Theres no real reason to run much of anything else and I dont see them making anything inventive.
@@DD-fs7pg Well, if past history is any indication, they'll realize what the result of what they've done is, be overly cautious with new designs for a while like they were after Merlin and Skadi (e.g. the anemic Quick NP refunds on post-Skadi designs), and try to put in mechanics to reign in CasSaber specifically (e.g. break bars to get around Merlin OMG crits, Salter memorial quest targeting casters). Both will achieve precisely the opposite because releasing new characters who can't compete in power only entrenches the status quo and with such an overloaded and overtuned kit, any attempts to rein her in will do more collateral damage to other options further entrenching the status quo. And once the status quo is entrenched, enough people get very upset if the status quo is changed that it becomes almost impossible to change. If they haven't been inventive or gotten a handle on balance in five years, they're not going to do so ever unless there's a big shakeup in the design team. I was actually quite surprised at first that pierce invulnerability was strictly better than sure hit because normally the reason for having two mechanics that effectively work exactly the same way (evade, invuln) is to make the mechanics that bypass them work separately to give the designers more options for tuning. It'd be pretty idiotic for a game with magic damage and physical damage have the magic evade stat also count for physical evade. Even then, it could still be doable if the power budget is managed properly but it's pretty clear that power budgets probably aren't a consideration at all.
@@hellraizzer7064 He's really good for challenge quests/buffing. Although he'll kill the unit in the front, his np is really useful for swapping in supports.
@@hellraizzer7064 We have like, three different 50% NP batteries on NA, four soon with Castoria, it's not a problem at all if you want insane damage lmao
"- Da Vinci Lily: Top tier. Has no difficulty against all classes. Can guarantee 2 Castoria NP on w3 for an extra 60%~100% ATK boost." This put a smile on my face :)
xHydro Because Skadi’s very purpose for being (NP looping) was taken by Castoria. The moment Castoria dropped, I applied Skadi for retirement. She won’t be seeing action for a long time.
@Dmon Blu Agree with you on Achilles and Parvati > Mo and Fionn, but how do you figure Atalante being better than Jarcher? Atalante does less damage and her attack buff only lasts 1 turn. They both have defensive skills, but Jarcher will be able to use her NP way more often than Atalante.
@@ahmedwahab2290 I've never heard anyone say that. And if they did they would need so much more to be relevant meaning a downgrade since Dante's needs so much more than np 2 to work as arts servants can manage like space Ishtar and jeanne or anyone else. At least they aren't maou she sucks on every angle servant could suck. Even another buff would change nothing. Castoria simply helps with a bigger charge than Nero bride and buff but even then Jeanne with Nero bride still worked really good with her kit after neros buff.
Arts:Wait how are you killing that boss so much faster. Skadi: Still haven't beaten me at crits kids. Orion: They will both catch up eventually right dick wizard? Merlin:Eventually.
@@deathstar6998 well with how the cards works, arts was supposed to be stable and slow compared to quick which is well "quick" (3 turn max). And buster is just oonga boonga big red button
Tierlist that was in the description, but reformatted to be in tier orders. Nitocris is a little bit special so read description of video for her GONG: - Chen Gong Top: - Space Ishtar - Kiara - Summer Musashi - Summer Jeanne - Summer Melt - Fionn - Da Vinci Rider - Mordred Rider - Murasaki - Scheherazade - Anastasia - Sieg Mid: - Hokusai - Salieri - Jason - Odysseus - Paracelsus Bottom: - Jinako - Nero - Da Vinci Caster - Gilgamesh Caster - Nursery Rhyme - Summer Marie - Helena - Edison - Summer Helena Nope: - Shiki - Erice - Shuten - Phantom - Summer Nitocris Geronimo: - Geronimo
Finally something I can watch with arts. Yeah I like castoria so I may try for her in 2 years but space ishtar comes first. Also np 5 Jeanne archer should make this system super fun.
@@yaliyumegami2033 cool to hear my ally. How much are you at. I spent half my quarts in summer 3 so I'm saving Again. I need some angra to burn for catalyst
Keep in mind this tier is without plugsuit. So if you want you can just plug Para in and give your DPS a bunch of extra NP gain, which will free up CE requirement too. Or just Chen gong all the way if you have mutiple buffer lmao.
xnaya, (wo)man, I'd like to thank you so much. You've a great job, making this vid so fast. I don't know how we (f2p/nearly f2p players) would decide who worth our savings if not you. Only because of your both (actually because of three of them) vids - for Skadi and Castoria - I know who should I pray for next two years. Thank you again, hope you are doing well
everyone talks about black grail and starting np, but can something like Royal Icing do since MLB it has a nice 25% np damage and 15% arts up? CE looks good enough, but I don't hear much people talking about it
Spaceshtar still prefers superBG over Royal Icing if np gain isn’t a problem. Not counting the constant factors and the rng of her 3rd skill(which would put it in BG’s favor even more if procced), you get 2(arts up from 2 castoria) x 2.6 for superBG vs 2.25 x 1.95 for Royal Icing. On top of that, superBG gives a little bit more atk. But Royal Icing is still good for people who arent lucky to have CEs like Smiling Face and BG. It could probably beat a regular lv1 BG with it’s 2k stat as well
Well, I've used a MLB max leveled Royal Icing on Swimsuit Musashi and 2 Caster Arturias with all max skills. She can farm whatever she wants 90% of the time in 3 turns. Same for Swimsuit Mordread. I've farmed like a madman for days with them and the extra damage from Royal Icing is lit
@@4tan730 Sup. What do you think about Painting Summer instead of BG? I only have like two copies of BG, and MLB Royal Icing and MLB Painting Summer. I´m on NA but heavily investing on arts, so I would like to know which one will be better in the future for S.ishtar and Musashi (my two targets next year).
@@ebenezer4013 I remember from last year that people were like "Eh, she needs too much work to even be good. I'm sticking to Melt", but I stuck with my guns and went in for the nun. Now here we are. She got an NP Strengthening and a new support a couple of weeks later. Best investment I have ever made on my account.
Really appreciate the work you put into making these looping tier lists. I don't have the same NP levels as you do on some servants but given how powerful Castoria is I'm sure after some testing I can find a way to make things work. Painting Summer, Azure Magical Girl, and BG are probably going to be my go to CEs since I don't have sign of smiling face or cute orangette MLB.
Nitocris:"Its my time to shine master" - Nope tier: Instant Kill effect in NP making refund inconsistent / 1 hit Art NP with no self battery. *Play sad Tokyo ghoul song in the back
@@cogstopper Agree, Its insane how much IK effect in this case is more of a demerit than a help, and when you need such effect to happen (CQ) it never does
You can always run her in a node full of gold mobs, considering they have low Death Rate. But then the issue become about finding a node full of gold mobs.
Valk is the first servant I'm aware of that applies IK after the damage, which is why she is a strong NP looper with skadi. Really wish they would go through and update older servants who have IK and change it to how Valk's NP functions, but I won't get my hopes up. It's unlikely they would go through the trouble given how rarely they actually update servants, let alone revamping how an entire mechanic functions.
Well, that was fast. Haha Thanks for sharing, xNaya! Still rolling for Castoria. Praying that I'll get her and the Summer 2020 Servants with the quartz I have saved up.
wonderful Demonstration, you truly are a Master of Masters XD I'l also propose a nickname for this video: "Artistic Extermination in Blue" the science of overkill using a Saberface.
So, most of the Servants in this video are at least NP2. For the sake of plotting my roll schedule over the next two years, how boned are most of these comps at NP1?
"Just to keep my sanity intact" Looks like double Bidoof and BG make loopers hit so hard even the player's mind takes damage. Anyway I don't have any faith in being able to pull her after failing to roll Skadi with more than 800 SQ, so I'm glad there are options that only involve a single Castoria out there.
Damn, good job on this. Very comprehensive. So because Chen Gong is Chen Gong, does that mean with enough NP charging supports, you can use him to farm any wave, similar to Space Ishtar or S. Musashi? It would be nice if all I needed was to pull a Reines or Waver alongside my Skadi + Castoria to get the ultimate farmer (even if it's technically not Bond points efficient) in a free, cheap to raise unit.
@Dmon Blu Have you seen the video? I think damage wise it's fine. When it comes to waver, considering jp got free ssr, well no excuse to not get slaver. he does need some np charge from others servants but I'm pretty sure you don't need the same setup as shown in the video. It was for the meme And lastly he is indeed a 2* but that also mean that you can get him more easily than a 5* and no need for a np2 5* because we know the gacha.
The fact they had to deliberately nerf CasGil's NP Refund says something about what his NP could do if that limitation where removed, I think. *cough cough* 100%+ Refund *cough cough* Also, I was expecting Hundred-Face to be on this list... until I remembered that she's actually Single Target, but for some reason, I thought she was AOE. Derp.
Sieg was already easily loopable even before Castoria. He's always been a really solid welfare unit, and anyone that burned him (just because his personality in Apocrypha was cardboard) was an idiot to begin with.
Raimundo Bruno He’s not bad as a caster NP loop, but the bad was mostly his role in Apocrypha anime, which a lot of people hated (as well as him due to his personality).
Fair and balanced servant. GJ DW, I can see our gacha funds are going to a competent balance team. In all seriousness, I'm acting like I don't like this, but this is actually healthy for the game. Less time needed for farming is always good for FGO IMO. I would just like that the CQs not be made so easy by Castoria. Maybe add more new types of NP gen debuffs that don't impact other comps like Quick and Buster too much, such as an NP gain cap off NPs/Cards in CQs.
Is it possible to you do a Castoria System feature for single-target Arts servants as well? Berserker Vlad and Summer Artoria probably reign supreme, but it'd be nice to see just how nuts other NPs might be.
Was testing out other CE's for Summer Musashi, figured out giving her LB Art of the Poisonous Snake may be a better option than Black Grail for refund purposes, saves you some Cost and opens up the Mystic Code slot so you can get exp on different ones. It lets her go up against Berserkers and still get a 100% refund (providing the damage drop-off isn't too much she misses out on over-damage).
@@notme-ji5uo Absolutely lmao. They're already self-sufficient and can do solo runs. Even better with good supports. Check out Ryou's Dioscuri gameplay with Double Castoria. The duo destroyed Kiara with massive buffs. Even got a 300% refund on a single turn.
For Da Vinci caster, the most optional way of farming is using kaleidoscope -> castorias 3'd skill -> Da Vinci NP -> castorias 1 and 2 skills -> Da Vinci NP -> change for Lord El -> use all his skillset -> Da Vinci 1 and 3 skill -> attack bonus -> Da Vinci NP. Long, but fortunately possible, hope its can be useful for all other Art servants with 50 (if it can be lucky 30) np battery charge.
What that's a horrible way to farm and it requires fucking plugsuit. The optimal way to do it is both castoria skill 3 => both Castoria skill 2 => da Vinci s1=> np full refund => np full refund => then s1 on both castoria . You just made it harder, longer, and costlier than it needed to be if your worried about damage np1 da Vinci does 160k at last wave and a suitable mc will let you do 190k
Ok let's see on na. I got sieg np 5 Jeanne archer and going for np 5 space Ishtar next year. Now I'm really hyped. No banner will tempt me from getting my chunni Rin.
@@ACertainMan Tama new year's. Nero bride middle of year near da vinchi good luck my ally. My roll plan. Illya January. Luvia Sr ticket. Space ishtar quarts for October. Current amount saved 700
@@ivanbluecool you too my friend! Currently saving for Tamamo hopefully she comes easily. Nero I have alot of time to save for. Vinci I'll get atleast np2 since she comes with lots of SQ. I'll concentrate on getting red umu to as high NP level as possible since she is my grail target
@@ACertainMan oh really nice list. Da vinchi I feel I can skip out on since I have plenty of riders already but support she will be fun. Also still no black grial I need one more to complete to mlb but I did get a prisma cosmos so here is to np charge teams with Jeanne and tamano.
@@ivanbluecool I need 3 more BG to complete it, should be a fun ride, when I get it MLB I'm gonna instantly level it to 100, Also I'm enjoying your summer BB and archer Jeannu this event, really cool teams I've been making
This banner was a pain in the ass for me, I spent so much and didn't get her But I'm using one castoria with davinci lily and waver and it's working pretty well
I was gonna ask if there was any benefit of Hokusai over Ishtar but the description pretty much covered it! So just leaving a comment for the algorithm :P
At that time, I didn't follow with the joke because, burning servants is a MORTAL SIN (burn only your 6th copy after NP5), My Fionn was NP3 at that time. By the time Castoria got released, he's NP5. :P
Dude your tierlists and explanations are the best! Until now i have been using summer musashi for farming and on berserker it is true that you need to plugsuit if you wanna loop. I do it with a plugsuit tamamo on berserkers and works amazing with mlb BG. In another note ty for letting me know that LoliVinci also wotk on all classes really usefullto know. And for the future I plan on saving for Space Ishtar and hope I can get her Ty
Elice can only be use in CQ to loop since most enemies in cq have low chance insta death. I tried her in coins farming (idk what it’s called), she loops juz fine
Feeling really dumb now here with how I don't have Space Ishtar for Castoria looping. Even though I threw everything I had at her banner when it was around. Standing here I realize that the only servant I have that is a Castoria looper is Kiara...
Considering the new Append Skill battery is a thing now I wonder if my theoretical skill use for Jarcher can work. Turn 1 for Jarcher (1st & 3rd skills used assuming starting NP append is lvl.10), that's 20%NP + 50%NP (1st artoria all skills) + 30%NP ( 2nd artoria 2nd & 3rd skill). This leaves open Jarcher's 30% Battery for use on the 3rd battle if the 2nd battle is a irregular 2 enemy node (with mage association skill 50% total). This is with the same restrictions you have but I'm on NA so I can't test it, but if this is the case the irregular 2 enemy battles are going to be light work for looping in thr future
