You know, I'm disappointed in myself that I never thought to post this here... so in honor of a legendary comment thread in a previous video that hopefully some people will get the reference too: Hey guys, remember when Tiamat seemed like a threat?
I mean she is still a threat if we face her again just not on freaking ORT level lmao. After all we're all just lucky she didn't even go all out and wanted to die by humanity's hand lol.
ORT existing doesn't diminish Tiamats or any other entity's threat level. Some very incredible things (outright impossible things in modern times) had to be pulled off simply to put her in a position where she could be beaten and it was still a toss up. Didn't help her heart really wasn't in it.
@@kristenhall3327 That's the case for every Beast class entity. ALL of them require the performing the impossible to defeat. Beast I of Pity - Required the absolute sacrifice of the Grand Caster activing an Noble Phantasm that *removes him from the Throne of Heroes* (reminder, Artoria points out that even EMIYA creating an actual time paradox won't remove him from the Throne. Once you're registered as a hero, nothing can remove you). Gathering all 10 rings to even USE that Noble Phantasm was supposed to be impossible, and the Grand Caster actually deciding to use it? Beast II of Regression - "The strength of multiple gods fighting her, the chains of heaven binding her, a pitfall into the underworld with Uruk itself as bait, the wrath of the underworld, and my own flowers... Beautiful if nothing else. And yet she still cannot be stopped, she has no natural enemies, she is unfamiliar with He whom I call 'Death'." Beast III of Rapture - Actual timeline breaking stable time loops, created by a reality warping AI right under her nose, to leave her vulnerable to damage. Beast III of Lapse - The help of the above mentioned Beast III/R, along with betrayal by her own trusted allies. Beast IV of Comparison - The very concept of "the murder of Primates" gave up itself and its power to save the life of one of those Primates. Literally defeated by love, kindness and friendship.
So by everything I've read so far: >It's lvl 1 >It's sleeping >U-olga didn't even scratch him >It's A FUKING Illusion. I'm feeling mocked on a level that I didn't even know was posible and yet somehow proud and happy about It lmao.
@@giatsu4229 on the context, Tezcatlipoca it's overpowered here (home advantage stuff) AND has Time manipulation (or similar) power, with this, he shows us this, the future of him and daybit freeing ORT, and It seems this fight only happends in a single minute, it's not even real, yet It already has this "perma-kill" servants power and hp, so, it's pretty much obvious the primary goal it's to not allow ORT out, but i'm wondering if Tezcatlipoca power it's "an absolute future" or a posibilitie, if It can be prevented, then i can ser arc coming to help, but after, not a chance to win.
@@luart732 That means one thing: Daybit must die. Chaldea needs to outright nuke his ass before he ever gets a chance to wake up ORT, or it's all over.
I'm pretty sure it's not an illusion. Tez hinted to have time manipulation power BUT he can only use it if that future is available or can happen and then He can switch the present with the future
@@Founder_of_Morgans_FanclubYep that is the reason he just spammed a single attack most of the time Bruh if taking in game playstyle i can say he didn’t even use his Buster card nor extra
That's because with every other huge enemy that Chaldea has fought so far, the way we were able to beat them was by weakening them first. ORT being at level 1 indicates that there's nothing in it for us TO weaken.
Small detail in this "battle": Most of the high power threats Chaldea faced had to be weakened in some way, from outside interference or some sort of miracle. Here, ORT is at Level 1; it literally can't BE any weaker, & it still soundly trashes everything that we throw at it.
@this city really looks like a city Not really. What Tezcalipoca did used one of his authority to 'slide' everyone in a few days to the future. This is possible considering that the underworld Mictlan is part of his domain. It is complicated but let just say - you are playing a demo of a videogame and you end up literally on the inside for a short time. That's what happened and for a while Chaldea and the rest tried their best to fend off against ORT but no avail. It eventually ignore them and goes to another target. It is half-awake but if it was fully awakened, goodbye to the whole underworld and everyone on it. Btw, the only way to defeat ORT is to physically destroy its body. It's the only way to kill it.
@@rogueascendant6611 "The only way to kill ORT is to physically destroy its body" Kinda tough when its real body is the Oort Cloud itself. Even if you apply every concept known to man.
@@cameraredeye3115 Not necessarily. You mistaken this on a different subject. ORT does not truly represent the Oort Cloud on a literal sense but on a conceptual level. Ever since this thing left it's home. It became a truly separate entity. But it still represent the Oort Cloud as a being that originally comes from there. In a nutshell, it's like the Greek Machine Gods using terminals as their host body in moving and out. Just like Arcueid who is her own person but hosting as the pseudo-Type Earth/Moon. So in a way, ORT can be beaten IF there's a way to destroy its body. If you are thinking adding a concept of death like Tiamat. That ain't gonna work buddy. Best to do is REALLY REALLY physically DESTROY its body.
@@rogueascendant6611 Yea but no one says a thing about killing It because either way trying to even destroy Its body physically Is harder than It sounds than being said. If you actually read about Its skin on Its Typemoon Wikipedia It’s pretty damn bad when Olga threw a black hole at It like she did with LB5.2 yet all It did was scratch ORT barely, and to try and kill an Ultimate One Is Impossible even If the main body Is destroyed that doesn’t mean It’s truly Dead. Better to keep It asleep over trying to fight an Ultimate One which no one In Chaldea or Humanity can do until the Next generation of humans aka A-Rays from Angel Notes.
@@Gareth-daupsetpuppy You do know that we need to do something about this. If Tezcatlipoca foresight do came true, it is too late to even made it back to sleep. This ain't a Beast that can't be negotiated or needing conceptual BS to find a weakness. This is an Ultimate One, the apex predator of its world, the end-bringer of planets. Reason why throwing a Black Hole by U-Olga Marie on ORT doesn't work is because it's a pseudo-form. A REAL black hole would do more damage, as in sucking the planet as well. And yeah reading the lore, this Type have the hardest skin unknown to man. Very difficult and impossible to even break it. Concepts might not work considering that ORT works on an 'alien' background that is beyond the knowledge of mankind. But then again, we don't need to know about it since in NOTES, the next gen of humanity don't have time to learn the Ultimate Ones they are fighting as they throw everything on them. Courtesy of one-time using the *Black* *Barrel* used by *Gun* *God* against Type-Venus, the A-Rays *Six* *Sisters* overpowered Magic, and *Ado* *Edem* *Knight* *Arm* *Slash* *Emperor* - a weapon that consumed and convert the world's energy that is then can be used against the Ultimate Ones, cleaving them in half.
@@Daybit97 true! I think i remember it too now. To think that Cernunnos was last chapter and was actually beatable... and then ORT just comes out of nowhere with his 3.5 billion HP, own break bar breaking animation and a custom animation for killing our servants... they truly made him absolutely terrifying and i love it.
To be completely fair Different tiers of threats Jalter was a threat to Human Order, ORT is a threat to the planet itself Jalter is about the same level of threat as Krimhield.
@@rabbss830 it isn’t even alien like whatsoever, ORT is a literal phenomenon that can hollow out a planet and eat away it, it’s very presence emits cosmic rays and inverts gravity as shown from the video
Yep. Context: PFALZ was responsible for the design for ORT. ORT was developed with the concept of "hopeless despair" much like a hidden boss monster in a RPG that is more dangerous than the final boss. It would invoke someone to think "WTF man, did you losers bother to think about game balance omgwtflolz?" when it is the player's fault for fighting it. Due to it being unable to truly understand the concepts of Earth, "If you're searching for romance, it's your personal business."
Gun God, Ado Edem, get your asses over here! Gun God: hanging out on Venus, teaching V/V guitar* Ado Edem: T-posing over Type-Jupiter* Goddamn it, don't tell me I gotta deport it myself?!
@@Hyukju_Cha The day when ORT was covering in his Cave in fear of Brazilians and U-Olga got beat up so bad, she got brain-damage and memory loss. Also known as the most normal day in Brazil.
@@plinfan6541 Me as a brazilian who has brain damage from eating too much toothpaste: Never Before Have I Been So Offended By Something I 100% Agree With
You know how the entire Metal Gear Solid series exists because Hideo Kojima is TERRIFIED of nuclear weapons? Well, the Nasuverse exists because Nasu is TERRIFIED of our entire solar system.
I mean, Nasu has a point. Our Sun is quite scary too, one terrible horrible no good very bad day and Earth life is erased. One only very bad day and we're back to the Iron Age as every wire on Earth turns to metal vapor and fish and birds start dying and wales and sharks attack ships. _Oh boy, what would _*_Type Sol_*_ be?_
@@kziila0244 Oh yeah, I forgot about Amaterasu. I literally read a fanfic that included her in the family of Ultimate Ones in the Solar System in the slot where Type Sol would've otherwise been.
So, apparently they actually explained that recently - the reason ORT is level 1 isn't because this is it's weakest form, it's because the concept of level doesn't really apply to it - it's functionally level EX.
Either that or due to the fact that it lacks a heart and absorbed a weaker source (the tree of emptiness). Either way it STILL managed to make Chaldea use everything they had to defeat it and *it wasn't still enough*
@@noeltrocio7860now get this: if HP levels are anything to go by, the raid ORT has a total of 19m HP, ...which is not even 1% of the original HP that ORT has, with his heart and all. In other words, entire Throne of Heroes, the dino civilization, and U-Olga Marie essentially were trying (and failing until Kuku) to stop ORT *that wasn't even operating on 1% of its powers* in the meantime. So uhhhhhhhh... TYPE-CHALDEAS when
@@Tyztube21 He didn't really take him solo... well yes, he did "fight" ORT solo but he could never hope truly defeat this monstrosity. Batman managed to rip out the core even though ORT had all but disintegrated his entire body. The thing is... ORT doesn't need his core. ORT doesn't even need organs. Those are all useless to him. All that does is slow him down somewhat. Every cell in it's body can take on all of it's functions, but just with less efficiency. This means that every cell can take the function of his core. It's with the combined help of Batman and Mala, that ORT was put in a forced slumber by fooling it with its own core. Mala made ORT believe that it's core was still located in its body, thus putting it into a slumber and holding it from regenerating the entire thing.
Some people seem to got it the wrong way, ORT was never trapped in South America. When Gaia sent a cry for help from the Aristoteles in Notes at some point in the future, ORT landed on Earth in advance because of his foresight. He has always been here waiting for the final judgment, but it seems like Daybit manage to make it happen way sooner than expected. As for Type-Mercury, ORT the Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud probably took his place as of now, hence why he has always been mistaken with him, Mercury got a spider-like crater, showing us the damage ORT has done when he landed on its surface way before he heard anything from Gaia.
@@HachannEinzbern ORT arrived early and stayed dormant in Notes as well. Zelretch and Angra mention him in Strange Fake and HA as well as "The Spider".
@@ssjokg4952 When one of the 27 dead apostle ancestors in Tsukihime tried to fight him, it was over in a literal instant, and while the spider was basically 90% asleep.
Oh man, they gotta bring this fight back in a memorial quest. Hell, they need to make an archive version for all notable historical boss fights accesible permanently.
@@elitehenrylegio Ado Edem doesnt exist in any meaningful way in the wider verse and even if he did it wouldnt be worth since the planet would be severely damaged if he did it.
The Superboss of the Nasuverse finally makes their appearance after over 20 years. We've felled Servants, Gods, and Beasts. But nothing compares to The Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud. Yorokobe, Shounen. The End is Nigh.
The ultimate ones are on different level. Can't wait to see arc show up to help. She's the only one approaching this things power we've got on our side. And she's also technically summoned..although that may not be canon
@@MrInuhanyou123 Even if the one summoned by Chaldea is canon, she is in a Servant vessel. Servant vessels cant even hold the real power of a Living Hero, so most Servants are nerfed versions of Heroic Spirits. Imagine now how nerfed a Type, in this case Archetype, would be if she was forced into that vessel.
@@ssjokg4952 Too true. Besides any actions by this thing (ORT) are basically beyond the capabilities of us humans to understand. It's said this thing moving weakens the earths anthroposphere. Its meant to literally counter the very existence of humans. As long as the enemy is human or "becoming human" hence gods, spirits born from human thought and wishes, and heroic spirits is countered and thus meant nothing to it. It's not limited by laws of physics not laws of the magic as both are just earthly rules. It came from the Oort cloud, they have different rules and he's applying those rules here.
@@ssjokg4952 The Arc that would appear to help us won't be the summonable servant though. Just like we used Super Orion and Rommulus Quirinus before, they were grands and had their stats show that they're stronger than your typical story supports. If anything, the story support Arcueid we will get will be at lvl 150 and be NP5 to show that she's the real deal Arcueid.
@@yuuichinuker7298 Orion and Romulus and Grands in general ain't shit tbh, compared to ORT or Arc. If Arc appears because of a summon she will no doubt be nerfed. We don't even know how the bleaching of Earth affected her and other non humans.
@@cameraredeye3115 As an avid tabletop gamer, i've held in my heart for many years that "Any Finite Number can be reduced to Zero." But in this instance? I'm not so sure of that, anymore.
I just love the fact that ORT is lvl 1 even here cus he is still technically "asleep" and also seem as time "illusion" from future summoned ORT of future by Tez NP.
ORT isn't asleep during the battle, nor is he an illusion. Tezcatlipoca's power is to rearrange time, so he brought forth the future ORT awakening even if temporarily due to his limitations.
@@shinji136 That is why i said technically, since ORT wasn't fighting at full power at all \ wasn't fully awakened yet (as we even see in gameplay) and Tez NP made it seem like "illusion" after effect ended, well anyways you are more correct, ye.
@@ShizukiShirano yep , it's not like he was fighting while holding back or something like that... The thing is that this dude was not fighting at all... He was just sleeping 😂
@@Simon-ur7bi Some type of weapon that annihilates the target (and preferably the surrounding crystal valley with it) without a trace The needed output for that unknown
@@stardust8797 No such weapon exists, unfortunately. ORT has no concept of death (remember Tiamat?) and even Gramps doesn't even register as a microbe next to this monstrosity...
@@cameraredeye3115 Another half of why it’s so terrifying Then again all the Types don’t because earthly concept and the only way to “kill” it is through complete annihilation body and core We just need something with that level of destructive capability (and no Ea is not supposed to be the out that’s just lazy) I hoped Excalibur was this but I now have doubts
I guess they really don’t understand anything of Fate or Typemoon related to know the absolute Scale ORT is on bc It scales above everyone in Type moon world since it’s technically from the Oort cloud but possibly outside of it indicating that ORT is naturally the literal strongest Type to exist, plus its core being over 1 trillion degrees Celsius is beyond hotter than the sun itself as its hot to melt the entire galaxy.
Ort is a planet eater, NOTHING on Earth could possibly beat it. Worse yet, once it consumes enough prey, it’ll outclass the ninja world of Naruto before they can even blink by using their own abilities against them.
20 years since it was teased and hinted in the early Nasuverse works. The boogeyman, the prime evil, the grand legend in the making of this entire franchise. The Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud, is finally here.
@@AdS-1013 Yes, it is confirmed in LB7 that it was the Ultimate One of Oort Could (from the outer shell of the solar system) this whole time, just seems to be absorbed Type Mercury as well (in theory is there was One). This is why he is insanely strong, as also in the first place he isn't even from inside Solar System technically. Also ORT status as which is this Ultimate One of was being under the question even in the text of 2006 Character Materials, so i guess even in TsukiRe series (or more correctly especially since the Nasu reboot with Mahoyo) it was always meant to be ORT from Oort Could, tho if you will it is also a pun with Type-Mercury (cus "Suisei no Kumo" means "Spider of Mercury", besides "Cloud of Comets") in Japanese lol. But now we know why thanks to LB7.
Funny thing - NASA scientists admit they've only PREDICTED the existence of the Oort Cloud. We've never actually seen any object in the area the Cloud is supposed to exist in. It's just that it's the only explanation for long period comets, which are comets that take 200+ years to orbit our Sun. And we haven't even reached the Cloud yet - Voyager 1, in spite of traveling 1 million miles per day, is still ~300 years away from its inner edge, and its batteries will certainly be dead by then. When it _does_ reach the Cloud, it won't make it out of the area for THIRTY THOUSAND YEARS, and that's assuming it doesn't hit something on the way.
This is really a big moment that Type-Moon fans like me been waiting for after a very long time of waiting and boi they really made it real when Nasu said that this thing is supposed to be a "Secret/Unbeatable Boss".
That's why Zelrech said, " We need a few hundred years into the future until we beat him." THE GUY WHO KILLED TYPE-MOON SAID IT HIMSELF This thing is hopeless Edit: There are some idiots out here who believe Ea (Gilgamesh Enuma Elish specifically) can hurt ORT. If he could, the counterforce would have summoned him to deal with him the moment he had landed. The first thing ORT defeated was 7 brand mages and a True Ancestor. Those were the strongest beings we had at the time and got defeated in seconds. But just like Prime Muder, CF sees, currently no one capable of defeating that, and just like Atlantis spawns a lot of heroic spirits in hopes, it can be stopped at least. CF is probably prepared to summon Archetype Earth to convert Arc into Ultimate on rn, and I bet the CF is busy trying to get a huge Cast of Magus and Grands. On top of that, the concept of deleting stuff or death does not affect ORT. Human concepts like death or life DOESN'T AND CANT BE APPLIED ON ORT. It's an alien. I repeat. It's an *_ALIEN_* People *READ ANGEL NOTES* or watch a video explaining *The Ultimate ones* . The only thing ORT would make crumble is another Ultimate or something close. So Enkidu NP would damage it more than Gils. Why do you ask? Because Enkidus NP Enuma Elish represents the *breath of the planets* and gets stronger when it's facing not just gods but also threats to humanity and the planet. Why are we fighting? I'm done with this fandom. We should be on the same page, but we are all hating out here, huh?
Yeah, Zelretch was also permanently crippled fighting Crimson Moon as well, and that was Crimson Moon underestimating Zelretch heavily, while Crimson Moon did not understanding what True Magic is.
To those who waited for ORT to finally show up in their all-formidable and indomitable glory, after 22 years of teasing and waiting. Rejoice, it is finally here!
It is called a "planet destroyer" for a reason. Though all Types are capable of untold destructive capabilities. ORT is labeled as the most powerful and dangerous of all the known the Ultimate Ones. Measured at the level of speed in exterminating Homo Sapiens faster than Primate Murderer and Angra Mainyu combined. Also the erasing part is just a *bullshit* rumor concocted by mistaken perceptive view or some troublesome trolls that just want crap to the fandom. All ORT did is the same thing known capable off. Blasting and turning its targets/victims into a crystal that eventually broke apart. That's how this Ultimate One is such a threat to all living things. Not only it can bend reality itself but demonstrating the ability to transformed it's surrounding into a strange alien world of crystals which thought to be it's natural environment.
@@Gareth-daupsetpuppy …dude, you are retarded aren’t you? That’s what the story said.Also, you know minuscule amount about the Nasuverse compared to me, the ignorant shouldn’t open their mouth.
I'm glad they respected its "unbeatable secret boss" concept. Gaia and Alaya have to put their differences aside for now, none gonna win with this thing lurking around.
@@TempestaDominusThe thing is, Gaia call it, but the plan was for that thing to show up by the time the planet was already dead and there would be nothing to lose. The planet is alive now so probably gaia dont gonna want that thing wreking havoc around.🤔
@@chuyerroa1278 Earth died, but humans kept living. So out of pettyness Gaia called the ultimate ones in order to wipe humanity out of their corpse (Notes lore)
Fucking ort, the avatar of the oort cloud the boarder of our galaxy. The last bastion to separate us from the whole galaxy. Now standing in front of us, the last opponent, the enemy of not humanity but of all live on the planet earth. This final battle will not only decide our future or the worlds, but the history of the entire milky way, our galaxy
Me: well.....time for call a ancient friend Me in the Phone:Hello? Silent King ?can bring me a Teseract Weapon? Í have a BIG spider here with cosmic powers.....
@@mse7215 Nah she’s definitely the most help we can get, she’s the closest being to his level. That said, no, she can definitely not beat ORT on her own, lmfao
@@mse7215 Sorry to burst your bubble... but (EXTREME SPOILERS) Daybit was the one to awake ORT, because he wants to destroy humanity, seeing them as parasites. He is even referred to as the true Evil of Humanity rather than the Alien God.
Holy shit....this is the type of entities that would make Goetia weep for his mommy. Here comes the spider. Everyone in nasuverse, from angra mainyu to Arcueid herself is wary of this thing. If you don't know it's existence it means you're not meant to know.
Man, aliens really are too OP in the Nasuverse. This is truly the strongest being of the Oort Cloud. I don’t know how will Chaldea overcome this, Nasu keeps on raising the stakes, from Arjuna Alter, to Zeus, to Chaos, and now this. It was stated that ORT was designed with the concept of “hopeless despair”, and being stronger than the Final Boss like how a superboss is, and man ORT really delivers.
> man aliens are too op in the nasuverse Yeah their common sense is different from us. Anyone with a different common sense from the status quo is just op. On a greatly lower scale shizuki from mahoyo is pretty OP because he also has an "alien" common sense but when he begins to reintegrate into society he becomes weaker
The most ironic thing about this is that for some wierd reason The Root decided that the "thriving of humanity" would have been the deciding factor of whether a "world" should be pruned or not. Instead of maby the strongest beings in the universe? Really makes you think.
so long as the roots allowed ort to exist at all then no there's no winning this fight, primate murder and all of the 7 grand probably could fight this thing but i doubt they can destroy it meaning an endless battle anyway.
Track is absolutely beffiting of a being that represents something humanity cannot hope to comprehend let alone defeat it is not something 'Servants' can even touch their abilities are practically nullified the best part is that this ORT is merely 'just awakened' and is only 'level 1' its not at all showing its true power it doesn't need to when what its facing are basically the equivalent of flies that can be swatted away and are absorbed into the hivemind that is ORT. Hopelessness you can't defeat this not not without a weapon and being fueled by the very planet itself.
I can see why ORT is considered the strongest Arestotles. being the Ultimate Being of the Oort Cloud, it'd naturally be the first thing any extra-solar organism would encounter. Imagine an entire species of creatures like ORT, out there slaughtering aliens, interlopers and foreign gods, simply because they're stepping up to the wrong turf. Also this is probably why Sepher, and by extent Velber managed to get through, This space bug was lazing around in Brazil.
This OST definitely carries a feeling of hopelessness and futility. Like we are facing a being far beyond our comprehension with little to no chance of victory. Which is just going to make it all the sweeter when we put this thing in the ground
Im laughing rn. There is no killing ORT, there is only putting him back to sleep. While Gun God may have dealt with 2 types, ORT is in a league of its own. I don't think even he could beat ORT even if he used the Black Barrel
what make me horror from this thing is that the fact we as master and together with every servant has defeat many godly beings, ascended to higher being than human, and some if not many of the servant literally has power to flatten/delete huge area in matter of seconds is nothing compare to ORT, nothing full stop, all that grandeur power we have is just ant bite for ORT and what make it worse, this ORT is level 1, freaking O.N.E
To all my fellow ARK players out there... We need an LB7 themed map. Dinos, aliens, various biomes ranging from regular jungles to alien landscapes. It just works
So, a Dead Apostle Ancestor once tried to fight this thing, and it was over literally instantly. A fraction of a second was all it took, and a vampire that has power comparable to a servant was gored, and that was while it was mostly asleep. It wasn't fully awake at the time, and it basically killed a servant with regeneration in less time than it takes you to blink. And, spoiler alert, naptime is over. The false Type-Mercury, ranked fifth amongst Dead Apostle Ancestors, is awake.
Funny thing, that ranking undersell the level of absurdity this thing is. It has the seat of 5th rank because it is sleeping. If it wakes up, there wouldnt be any rankings.
@@alonelyperson6031 well, Zelretch, Primate Murder, Dark Six, and Crimson Moon are all that outrank it. And we don't really have a good grasp of any of their abilities. We understand Primate Murder and Zelretch significantly more than Crimson Moon, and understand him slightly more than the Dark Six who we know basically nothing about. So, I don't think it's fair to say that they aren't more dangerous than ORT. We don't fully know what any of its presumed betters can do.
@@Ohimeshinso Problem is, Zelretch himself remarks that ORT is something several hundreds years too early to fight for a reason. And we know PMurder is only so strong because its super effective against humans. ORT isnt super effective against humans. Its just that good at murdering people. I will give you the other ones, but I highly doubt anything will stand on the same level as an Ultimate One that also happen to not be named Ado Edem.
@@alonelyperson6031 Yeah, but when you have an Authority of the beast(presumably) that exists purely to kill humans- I feel like it's fair to say you're the King of Murderers. As for what Zelretch said... That was regarding humanity, not things that aren't humans like Crimson Moon and the Dark Six who could be a colony of six vampiric demigods connected by a hivemind for all we know. And perhaps they have some sort of unfair advantage that makes it more dangerous than ORT. A weapon or Authority, potentially, or a Mystic Eye. Maybe all of the above. And we know Crimson moon has a Knight Arm, Rainbow Class Mystic Eyes that do something we don't really know, and he's practically confirmed to be a swordsman at this point. And he's also an Ultimate One, one who's home is MUCH closer and so it could conceivably provide backup more readily.
@@Ohimeshinso And all of that doesnt matter. Because ORT operates on alien logic. The crimsonmoon himself got beaten by zelretch and zelretch himself is wary of ORT for a reason. Though TYPE-MOON is technically alien, its proximity to the earth and the fact that the Moon is interwined with the Earth itself, make the title of ULTIMATE ONE fairly undeserved. Hes like a half ultimate one. A moon, instead of a true celestial existence. Also, if you take into account size, TYPE-ORT is FARRRR stronger than TYPE-MOON. Because ORT itself has a much vaster area to compete, and therefore it's "ultimate life form" would be stronger than a meer moon. The ORT cloud is like twice the size of the solar system. As far regarding humanity thing. Most of the things you mentioned can be beaten in submission by humanity. Primate Murder can be defeated by the 7 Counter Guardians. And each and every BEASTS has been defeated by humans. TYPE-ORT cannot be beaten by humans, but that doesnt mean that it can be beaten by other things either. You don't get the title of the Ultimate entity of the fricking ORT cloud by being a wuss who can be defeated by a bunch of ants. Theres a reason why the only case of ultimate ones dying exist in the far future where humanity basically ascend to that of Ultimate Ones of Earth.
Remember when I said we were fucked? I was wrong. We're Ultimately fucked. This thing straight up erases you from existence with a glance, and it's got 12 GODDAMN BARS OF 10M HP EACH
I must admit the bit from 0:39 to 0:50 is my absolute favorite part of the song. Don't get me wrong the entire thing is great and really conveys the terror that is ORT but this bit in particular not only stands out in the song but in LB7 in general the fact it sounds so modern and techno compared to the more traditional sounding tracks to rest of the LB really shows how... otherworldly ORT is.
no i totally get it, its the same tune that plays it in, and from the get go its totally alien sounding music to the rest of fgos track. music starts: alien confused you see ort: dread then it gets to 0:39 and you are just left to settle on this absolutely monstrous alien thing and it lingers juuuuuuuuuust long enough
If ORTs theme is like this, I think if TYPE-VENUS ever got a theme, it would be a more soft theme. She is a creature who’s compatible with earth, as life can prosper on her body. A destroyer, and a creator.
From the end of LB5, we found out the bleaching of earth's texture happened BEFORE tree seeds take root. Daybit also stated U-Olga Marie isn't enemy of humanity. U-Olga Marie see her role to correct/manage humanity. ORT is here to answer the call of Gaia and had been sleeping for 5000 years. So what/who exactly caused the bleaching?
Think it was mentioned in one of the extra games that pruning happens once a century or something like that. And all the events in FGO have happened in a span of ~2 years.
@@penguinhacker I believe its the system where if a timeline diverges too much from what the Planet deems as 'standard'. The timeline gets deleted. Quantum Time Locks are checks that occurs atleast every century to see if a timeline diverges too much or not. Former results in pruning.
FGO isn't a Timeline so much as its own Universe, or Time Trees as they are called. Basically it can't be pruned as much timelines in this Universe are similar goven how Timelines tend to be very similar within a Time Tree.
ORT, a character who has only been namedropped in Tsukihime's og VN (Released over two decades ago) and Fate/Strange Fake has finally made his grand arrival to show that he is GOD of the Type-Moon universe and that all beasts are just cattle that are destined to be slaughtered by GOD himself. Also his theme is fucking awesome
@this city really looks like a city My bad. It's been a long time since I read Notes so I assumed he was mentioned somewhere along with the other Types. It's weird he's not referenced at all
something overlooked in this lostbelt so far, is that U-olga claims that _she_ was called to the earth as well by gaia. on top of that, we know she's looking for ORT, but we don't know how much her non amnesiac form knows about it. I don't know if she was just hyping herself up, but if she wasn't joking about hearing gaia call out to her, then the implications of that are massive when factoring in that the only beings we've seen answer the call from gaia have been the ultimates (AKA beings like this one). What exactly is she really, and what ties does alien priestess have with her and ORT?
@@MrInuhanyou123 I'm starting to think alien god and ORT both have terrible timing, and arrived too early to do the jobs they were meant do do. similar to type venus, alien god seems to be getting closer to understanding (and liking) humanity than erasing it (even prior to the mind wipe, she has always felt a bit too derpy to be actually malicious). starting to believe that the next arc of grand order is going to involve the earth dying and humanity somehow working to save it from that fate before it decides to call out to the types.
@@vla1ne your misunderstanding. The signal was called out already thousands of years ago. ORT just got it early. The other types won't get it until about the year 3000. By this point Arcueid is the brain and soul of the earth. So it actually has a sentiment mind that can understand and empathize with humans now with her. So I can only assume she will now take part in fgo to protect the earth as type earth against the alien threats now that the scale of the story is beyond human threats
A Monster Can't Speak A Monster Can't Be Reasoned With A Monster Can't Be Explained Day of O.R.T. All Efforts to Save Humanity from Impending Doom But...the Future Refused to Change
@@fersho450 Ort simply does not make sense. It's the typical enemy they put out there for you to lose, but with no chance of ever getting past it. He is under his own rules and concepts, on earth he has no weaknesses, none. The current humanity literally has no way to defeat him and the only one capable of facing him is the race that succeeds the human race, that is, the human being will NEVER be able to. ORT and Primate Murder are only compared because both are under their own rules, but ORT is simply the denomination of despair and end
You can see V/V waving goodbye during the last episode of the OG Carnival Phantasm. If a TYPE can have fun, ORT can as well. In a different universe of course.
Gun God's entire world had balls of titanium to even try fighting back against an invasion force of seemingly ALL THE ULTIMATE ONES (Minus Moon, possbly) WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF ENACTING GAIA'S LAST SPITEFUL REQUEST OF FINISHING OFF HUMANITY. in that situation, i'd just go and find the one that would delete me the fastest lmao.
To be fair, even among the TYPEs, ORT seems to be the most powerful among all of them Which makes sense, since the size of Venus is nothing compared to the Oort Cloud
ORT isn't their kind, Nasu specifically made it a planet eater now. It's possible ORT destroyed their home planet since the OORT Cloud is hypothesized to have been a planet once.
Wait... It's a regular "GRAND BATTLE"? It can't be, right? We're talking about a ultimate one. It must have a special title screen like the BEASTs or the Olympians. Right?
It seems that ORT we fight currently is kind of an illusion of Daybit's servant. SPOILER ALERT Daybit's servant, Tezcatlipoca, is almost almighty in his homeground. One of his authority is time manipulation. With this power, Tez show the future of this LB to Chaldea. And that future is the destruction of the entire planet, caused by ORT. Which means, Tez summoned future's ORT to current era, by using his time manipulating power.(for a minute, of course) That ORT is the one we can fight in the ingame part.
@@dyh6211 Wait, I have also heard that [SPOILER BELOW]. Is it also true and to which extent?? o.o; SPOILER ALERT Any Servant defeated in this fight can no longer be used for the remaining part of the Lostbelt, as per their new death animation where their body is crystallized in ORT green, shattered and absorbed into ORT. (Even in the reach of just this Lostbelt, this is immensely scary to imagine.)
It's just a scripted battle to show up the new fancy animation for 10+ break bars. You just get murdered and go on your way. No need for a title screen here.
For those who keep saying and mentioning that archetype earth can beat ort, just remember that it ain’t on your side and will gladly aid ort in guaranteeing your demise.
This is a mute point it seems as Archetype Earth existed in the Lostbelt and like nearly everything was basically killed... by a weakened ORT on power saver mode. Yeah, Arcuied has no chance.
Believe it or not, it's only around 40 meters in height, just like Draconic Corpus Tiamat in Babylonia. Other enemies such as Cernunnos, Oberon-Vortigern's Abyss Insect, Surtr etc are much larger than it. That being said, ORT would solo them all without much problem because size difference won't be a problem when you have so much power and practically invincible as long as the battleground is on planet earth. Though, it would be epic to see ORT taking down Cernunnos (who is just a zombie back in LB 6) and overwhelming its sea of curses with ORT's crystal valley. Or going up against the Abyss Insect who is comparable in size to the landmass of LB Britain. I won't surprised if the ORT could just tear the Abyss Insect in two just like what Melusine did at the end of LB 6 without having to wait for the Abyss Insect to closing its mouth first by defeating the smaller Oberon-Vortigern.
@The 6th Beast Draco I believe cernunnos would stand a chance since it's at least planetary. You only really need at least a multi-continental power to destroy the body of a type. Although it probably would regenerate in only a few moments
@@rust5427 Cernunnos at best is gonna flood the planet with its accumulated thousand of years worth of curses, and even that still pales in comparison to Beast II Tiamat's Chaos Tide which she can easily cover the planet with it in the span of half a day, and have unlimited stock of it (unlike Cern's curses) since she's a walking 4D pocket dimension. If anything, the Evils of Humanity are probably the closest thing on Earth that can compete to Ultimate Ones, not saying the former is gonna win though as even the Ultimate Ones seems to be vary in terms of strength.
After more than 2 decades the virtually strongest being in TM has appeared, can't wait to fight him after so long of waiting since last year's tease.I just hope Lasengle don't drop the ball and let ORT who has been an OG of TM get defeated by Mashy Sue
We have no idea if it's going to be defeated at all, we just hope we can put it back to sleep at best, we don't even know if Mash is gonna be the one to do it or not. People are just assuming because Mash is getting buffs.
The rest of the Aristotleles would like to have a friendly chat with you for labeling their Scout grunt the strongest thing in nasuverse. V/V TYPE-VENUS would like to have a chat with you while holding her guitar 🎸.
@@yunantheobserver6841 no Oort is the strongest it’s literally fucking based on the Oort Cloud that SURROUNDS OUR FUCKING SOLAR SYSTEM made up millions of frozen planets unidentified that surrounds and borders our planets. So no I don’t think those fucking types would work.
I like how now that ORT has finally arrived everyone that has read NOTES starts discussing Ado Edem like it's no one's business....myself included HAHAHAHAHA
@@pyroball602 ORT is going to awake to rush into the South Pole and destroy Chaldeas. It won't bother to kill even people around the Lostbelt (as you know Kadoc, Guda, Daybit, etc survive this future as ORT just leaves until the planet blows up). So whatever is coming from Chaldeas is a threat to ORT too. Animusphere's spell/chant states "celestial bodies become hollow."
I have so longed for a fight like this, I'm no whale, I'm barely a dolphin at best, but goddamn would I be lying to all of you and myself if I wasn't absolutely drooling at the chance to fight something as strong as Ort
