【LIVE A LIVE】シン・ラスボス戦 GIGALOMANIA【リメイク】 

So many years passed since the original version of the game came out…now he redeemed himself and died as a true hero.

People sometimes ask the question, "If you could have one super power, what would it be?" My answer to that has often been that I would want the power of selective forgetting. To be able to temporarily erase select memories from my mind. Namely in regards to things like video games and movies, so that I could re-experience them blind. Because no matter how much replay value a game has, subsequent runs are never quite the same as the first.

Say WHAT HE BECOMES A TRUE HERO!!!

@@Jose_Doe it’s during the final boss though that is exclusive to the remake

From what I understand, Odio was a incarnation of hate itself. He was once a hero much like Oersted, he became famous, respected, and people would cheer his name for his heroic deeds. But one day an incident happened that would change his fate forever. The kingdom Odio had sought for to protect had so many dark secrets, his followers, friends, champions, his king and his love would do anything to cover their secrets. Odio did the unthinkable by self defense on each individual who tries to kill Odio. His bloody hands were all scattered through the scene, his world he believes had crumble before his eyes. People in his kingdom would come realize and torture Odio for his action. He was treated like a trash, lowly scum, heartless monster. One day, Odio was sentenced to death and was sent to the mountain, he was blindfolded and hanged infront of many people, but before he died he shouted at them, that he would swore to kill everyone, he swore he would force everyone know how he felt, he swore that he would return even after he died, and so he did. His hate toward mankinds fuels his strength, through his bottomless emotions his spirit would eventually becomes vengeful, strong enough to plague those surround him.

God damn I’ll never get over what a wonderful surprise this was… shout out to all the Japanese gamers that got to play the original when it came out and the rest of us emulator boys when we chugged down the translation patch in 2001! This ending was made for us ❤

⁠@@BriahnAznableand people like me who got to experience this for the first time via the remake, aka the definitive way to play this game. You guys let us experience this.

You were not the only one.

You can say the everyone in the development team has changed as new well, especially the director Tokita. Live a Live back then has many similarity with Final Fantasy IV - his other game about how hatred ruins a person and there is little no redemtion if you go down that path. However, this battle showed that even the Lord of Dark has hope, that he can at least do one right thing after centuries of loathing and anger, which I find it really beautiful !

I'm reminded a lot of a strang hybrid of in the final and the xehanort fight from kh3

I think it was Oersted who came out of his hatred and slew the Lord of Dark.@@dungdaoxuan2077

Why is that? (I’ve never played the original)

​@@bunkflunk this final boss is newly created for the remake, the original ended after the boss rush

@@Lungoomba21 oh shit

Glad to hear the reveal was as awesome as I imagined. I didn't even know that Sin Odio was exclusive to the remaster until a couple weeks ago, and it left me wishing I had beaten the original back in the day so that I could've experienced the intended shock of that sudden boss battle. Alas, when I was a kid I was way too terrible at RPGs to get anywhere in one like this. The extent of my tactical abilities was "hit bad guys and heal." Which unfortunately didn't cut it in Live A Live because of how the battles work.

@@gurvmlk I actually played the original game first and one of the things I knew about the remake going into it was that there was a new final boss. This immediately caused me to worry, because I was so used to Atlus rereleases adding new content that undermines the original story or ruins the pacing of an otherwise good ending- Persona 4 Golden being the worst of these imo. Even in the case of Persona 5 Royal, which had a generally decent new story, ended up feeling as though it conflicted with the pacing and themes of the original's amazing ending. So to say the least, I was beyond happy to find out that not only was this additional final boss great, but it felt entirely faithful to the original Live A Live's story. They didn't change where Oersted ended up at the end of the game, they just gave additional context to make his realization of where he went wrong feel more satisfying. They didn't add any additional plotline where killing this big demon monster absolves Oersted of his sins and allows him to live as though he did nothing wrong. They didn't add any additional villain that has nothing to do with Oersted or the theme of love and hatred that permeates the game. What they did was give us a conclusion that felt so close to the original game's ethos that it feels insane that it wasn't always there. I was honestly amazed by this new final boss and it made me love the game even more than I did when I played the original version.

idk where you got 'teeth' from but that just says 'i am' (same as 9:22)

Wings That Do Not Reach.

​@@XX-sp3ttBroken Wings was what the English release used. Same with Alicia being Alethea. However, the pronunciation was terrible. I knew a lady that sadly passed away a few years ago by that name. She pronounced it "Ah-lee-thee-ah", which is similar to Alicia - "Ah-lee-shee-ah". The pronunciation the dub team went for, "Alla-fay-ah" sounds awful in comparison.

やはり、そうだったのか……。 オディオというのは誰もが持っている"憎しみ"、というわけか……、オルステッドが絶望して魔王としての依り代という感じで。

ハッシュが言っていた『本物の魔王はこんなものではない！』ということから考察するとおそらくその見解は正しく、同時にこのsinオディオこそがあらゆる時代のオディオの根本であり、人間が存在する限り消えることのない、悪性の一つなのだろう。

Makes me cry a little ❤

Cube: beep boop (Translation: WARP SPEED!)

ほんとそれ。私もオルステッド自身に一切の救いがないのなら、各編（中世編含む）の主人公たちの戦いってなんだったんだろうってモヤモヤしながらオリジナル版のエンディングを呆然と眺めていたから、憎悪に自縄自縛状態だったオルステットが自分の手で決着をつけるという演出には心を揺さぶられました。 この結末は1990年代にはまだ早すぎたのかな。今ならすごくしっくりとくる。だからこういうリメイクができたのかも。時代が追いついた的な。 「自分でも何が正しいかなんて良くわからないけど、他責志向に囚われ続ければオディオの闇に沈む。自分や現実と向き合い続ければ報われる日が来る。だから人として生きることを諦めるな」という趣旨のレイのオルステッドに向けた言葉こそが、「LIVE A EVIL」というオディオからの警告に対する1つの答えなのかもね。

@@MurakumoMoon 素晴らしいコメントありがとう。 悪に貶められてしまった存在として懲罰されたっきりだったオリジナルのオルステッドが最後に勇者としての責務を果たせたのは本当に喜ばしいことだった。

最後オルスが自分の攻撃で魔王に引導渡すも 結局原作通り消えちゃうのが猶更悲しいんだよね。最後の一瞬は勇者そのものだったのに… 本質的な魔王は「仕方ない」で割り切らず、自己中心的な嫉妬に勝てなかった冷房ではないだろうか ホロライブの配信で知名度あがったと思うけど リメイクでポゴがオルスの気持ち汲み取ってるのがよく分かる演出になってるのが印象的 当時は「この原始人、どうやってオルスと話しつけるんだ」「仕方ない、愛でいい」 みたいな決定だったんじゃないかと思うが、リメイクでポゴの性格を考えた演出になった 「人間は蔓延りはしなかった」という台詞から察するに、ポゴは多くの人類の祖先ではないかと思う、 きっとこのあと愛情深い父親になり、多くの末裔にその心を残したのではないだろうか

@@user-nm3ng7kc1c 魔王山に仕掛けがあるんじゃないかって説が出るくらい あそこのストレイボウは余りにも豹変していて… オマエこれまでずっとその感情と上手く向き合ってたはずなのに あそこまで醜く嫉妬に狂うものなのかって 最終章主人公にポゴ選んで 最後のオルステッドの問答で決壊したな そうか、言葉という概念を持たないお前ならそうするのか…って

オディオというのはオルステッドが生み出したものではなく、魔王と呼ばれていたモノの正体で、 オルステッドやストレイボウにしたみたいに、憎しみに囚われた人間の体に乗り移り続けてきたんじゃないかな それが今回オルステッドは憎しみを振り切り、自分自身でケリをつけたから、今度こそ本当に魔王と呼ばれたモノを倒せたんじゃないかなと

Actually it's a new phase after the boss rush and the battle to save Oersted from his own hate and it is one hell of an epic finale.

A proper Darklord that will follow through Octopath Traveler genre

あの時点だと「お、メインテーマにイントロ付けたんだ！」って思ってしまいますよねｗ センスの良い隠し方だわ本当

YOU CAN DO IT, OERSTED!

今までダントツで最悪の「誰かを必要としていたのかもしれない」

だから人間を滅ぼした後魔王オディオはただのオルステッドに戻ったのか…

よりにもよってそこで松のセリフをアキラが言うの天才なのよ

it hits hard

He is not underestimated as mich as he is not well-liked. Nevermind the fact that it's always a competition between him and Cube, the fact he stole what little money his caretaker has didn't bode well with a lot of people, especially the ones who played the SNES ine because instead, Akira just steals his caretaker's panties, which, while still weird, actually won't cause her to worry about money in the future. And his chapter's crafting mechanic has been unchanged from the SNES one. I see his advantages, but Sundown Kid did deal 999 DMG with Masaru's help anyways. It's more so that everyone is able in some way that people pick by their preferences, and not a particular meta (aside from having a healer in the party to help or have a fuckton of balmgrass) that first-timers won't pick Akira.

in the original there was an armageddon ending. When you control Orsted and you beat all others characters you can use armageddon and it just destroys all timelines and the game end. It is a different ending from oersted just beating all characters

​@@jeanbob1481 You can get Armagedon ending by simply dying from Pure Odio.

最終編でのオディオはオルステッドの憎しみを中核にしてますからね そしてオルステッドの憎しみの根源は、ストレイボウとアリシアの裏切り……「信じていたものからの裏切り」 裏返せば、「自分を信じてくれ、そして信じられる何か」を求めているわけで…… それなのに、７人の主人公達が苦境にも負けず協力し合ってる様子（自分が失った信頼関係）を、ある意味特等席で見せつけられてる状態

Wont work since it was made by two different composer

@fukaze2021 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rSMLEwCFVxQ.htmlsi=A49yM7ePY5wfvYqx I would rest my case, but I'm choosing violence today. NO. You do not need to have two separate songs to be composed by the same composer in order for a mash up to work. What you need to make it easier is for is for the two songs to share the same genre and style. E.I. the mash-up of Last Battle and Megalovania that I just posted above. Music is very mathematical in how it functions. So two songs of similar genre and style can be brought together. In fact, due to the mathematical nature of music composition, you can even bring together two songs from completely different genres together, then change their genre and style, like for example, "don't stand so close to me / young girl" from Glee.

Tbf the final boss is Pure Odio, this is more of a bonus round setting up the golden ending and oersted's atonement

I think you're just supposed to give into the mood of it all. It's not a particularly challenging game in general

@@RockEsperfair

It’s a much better final boss then just a boss rush which is what the original had

It wasn't as hard as Pure Odio but it was cool as hell, especially the part where the other heroes come in.

Sounds like the finale to Super Smash Bros Adventure mode.

Personally, I found both fights with Odio to be rather lackluster, at least in terms of difficulty. The plot made up for it though, but the battles themselves I felt were a tad too easy. But I imagine there are certain party compositions that could drastically affect the difficulty.

the original game also had weird difficulty. Like the hardest fights where all in Masaru chapter lol@@gurvmlk

@@jeanbob1481 I believe I fiddled around a bit with the Masaru chapter in the original back in the day, but never beat a single fight (partly because I sucked at RPGs back then, and couldn't think tactically with such an elaborate battle system). It felt very trial-and-error to figure out their tactics and weaknesses, as well as which you could defeat first, and then learning which new moves would be most effective against which next opponent. Kind of like figuring out weaknesses in Mega Man. A lot of that guesswork though was taken out of the remake because of how much more information the game provides you, such as attack details, and enemy weaknesses. Although personally, I wish you could disable the display that shows enemy HP and weaknesses. That one feature made it a bit too easy to know exactly how to approach most fights throughout the game before you've even thrown the first punch.