杜毓澤陳氏太極拳老架 

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Indeed, the old Chen lineages like Xiaojia look a lot like Yang style.

It was recorded in Taiwan in 1978.

@@Livingtree32 Oh, thank you very much, sir.

杜毓澤師爺傳承陳式太極拳，兼容陳長興系老架、陳有本系新架(現代大陸所謂小架)。不少人以杜爺曾習拳於陳名標，而認為杜爺傳承陳式太極拳｢新架｣，與｢忽雷架｣有關。事實上，並無直接證據，大多穿鑿附會。從拳架來看，其根源於陳有本新架系統，大致上是確定的。 另，陳名標的師承，有說是李景延(老架陳耕耘、新架陳有綸徒)，有說是楊虎(李景延徒)，有說是陳省三(老架陳延熙、新架陳鑫徒)，甚至有說曾師事陳鑫，不一而足。

It is Du Ye Ze practising old frame of ChenTajiquan aged 81 in Taiwan - He was a student of Chen Yan Xi - the father of the famous Taiji master Chen Fa Ke.

Note the absence of any "hula-hula" motions of "reeling silk" that Fa Ke invented.

@@siulumlion when you are old it is best not to do the explosive movements for brain health... just my opinion

“ A Chinese speaking friend of mine, also a Chen style practitioner, looked up Du on taijiren.cn, which is what he describes, I think with tongue in cheek, as the "official" taiji site. It suggests that Du’s teachers were more varied that just Chen Fake. This is his translated distillation of the entry about Du): “Dù Yǜzé born in 1897. When Yuze was 18 (1915), his father, who worked for the Qīng imperial administration in a town not far from Chenjiagou, hired Chén Yánxī, Chén Fākē's father, to take on Yuze as a discipl. Shortly after Du started studying with him, after teaching Du the first 13 moves of Lao Jia, Yanxi retired. He sent Du to study with Chen Mingbiao, a small frame practitioner. Du's father hired Mingbiao to serve as a guard at his official residence. Yuze graduated university in Shanghai in 1925. So if he was in Shanghai for 4 or more years, his time with Yanxi and Mingbiao amounted to 6 years (or less). “ I appreciated the historical color about Du’s circumstances and the reference to small frame, which was certainly actively practiced around Chenjiagou at that time. Du himself was still a young man after he moved to Shanghai, and there may have been much more training available to him after he moved to Shanghai (and later to Taiwan) Has anyone been able to date the video of Du?

@@paulwinick540 When I watched the video above, it looked to me like a shortened version of the old frame (several postures of the now practiced old frame were missing) but the more "closed" and short movements kinda looked like the small frame. The translation you shared confirmed my thoughts! So thanks A LOT for it!!!

これは古代の陳太極拳、楊太極拳は、相続の痕跡を見ることができますです。

@@zenfeng173 Yes. I practice Huang’s Yang style but I study this video for instruction and do some of this Old Chen form as my warm up or cool down before or after I do the Yang form. I really like it.

這是老架，但杜爺另有一套類似小架的新架。

@@zenfeng173 看得出来这位师傅的小架功夫很深，所以打老架还是用小架的方法来操作身体。也就是说，既然小架功夫那么好，没必要练老架。

@@footy888 的確有人練了小架，就沒再練老架了

Xiaoqing Zhang 是否有機會一睹陳發科早年拳架?

Jeff Cheng 有机会我传一个视频，跟你分享一下

Xiaoqing Zhang 感謝

Xiaoqing Zhang 可以放到網上看看

@@xiaoqingzhang9556 請問也可以傳給我嗎？

陳式太極拳傳統上分成｢陳長興系老架｣以及｢陳有本系新架｣(現代大陸稱為小架)等兩大拳架體系，後續滋衍出各門各派。杜毓澤傳承陳式太極拳，有老架、新架，以及炮捶等拳架。 一、老架係杜爺拜入陳式太極拳第八代宗師陳延熙(陳發科之父)門下，獲其親授。兩岸目前只有台灣杜毓澤嫡傳門人習練，相當稀有珍貴。由於本拳架屬陳長興系老架，故與｢小架｣(舊稱新架)無關。 二、另，杜爺尚傳承有新架，屬於陳有本系新架滋衍的結果，係來自陳名標的傳授。｢新架｣在每個時期所指涉的內涵不盡相同。大致可以區分為｢傳統新架｣及｢現代新架(始自陳照奎)｣。民國二十一年(1932)出版的｢陳氏世傳太極拳術｣中，主要介紹陳氏太極拳較早時期的｢傳統新架｣，係來自陳有本(陳有恆)、陳清萍、陳復元、陳鑫等一系傳承，作者陳子明自序提到，新架係由老架神明變化而來，亦即老架、新架之分，是基於拳架發展的先後順序。只不過這類拳架，在大陸因為｢現代新架(始自陳照奎)｣的出現，遂被稱為｢小架｣。(與拳勢、拳架型態大小無涉)現代大陸小架代表性人物主要為陳克忠門下陳伯先、陳伯祥、陳東海、陳東山等一脈傳承。

看完这个视频和底下的评论，终于明白了，真正的老架和大陆现在的小架从架子上是很相近的。而现在大陆四大天王打的老架是已经改过的。虽然他们说是陈长兴的老架，但其实小架更接近于陈长兴的老架。那么现在流行的陈式“老架”又是哪位前辈改的呢？是从哪个架子改过来的？ 现在的“老架”看上去一直在扭来扭去。

@@LC-hs3pz没错！

開筋只是基本功，單純開筋是不能達到【易髓】境界的， 還需【開骨】， 先輩所講【骨開生靈】即指此，這涉及到開骨、潤骨、透骨的過程，待最終將精氣合一後才能進行【易髓】的訓練。 節錄自《太極心語》第五章 陳太平著