It's very clear here, Matsuoka-san is really bad at conversation, in this case as "radio personality" or MC. He practically let his co-host run the flow of the conversation. It will be disaster if he run the program by himself. I want to see it though. Lmao.
He said that himself on one event. That don't EVER let him running any event or it will end in disaster. He can turn any situation into comedic, but he can't start a decent conversation. Tgtg knew that himself very well and didn't hide that fact