Without brain washing or sth like that the first day they would do something legendary and all die. Not best investment since they can do the same with 2/3 regiments.
i just saw 'Krieg' and thought krieg the psycho from the borderlands series... can you image if the 40k war hammer universe and the borderlands universe just merges? (and totally not cause of tannis messing with siren stuff)
@@maxgregor6858 agree with you there, it takes a long time of training and enhancements to produce just one Space Marine. You’re better off just doing some genetic mods on future Krieg’s men or much harsher training or new equipment for veteran Krieg Regiments. Their morale is unbreakable, in order to win against a Death Korps Regiment. You’ll need to wipe out the entire Regiment.
I genuinely think this is the best depiction of Krieg. They don't throw their lives away but show no fear for its loss. They use strategy and coordination. It's not just "hurr Durr shovel I go step on landmine".
@CLONE GENERAL WRAITH shadow korps they just exposed their position so they have 5 seconds till their positions get lit up hotter than the surface of the sun
I like how the kriges at first moved tactically and with efficiency even waiting behind the Astartes because they knew it would be pointless to die there but as soon as hes was in trouble they swapped from "tactility and efficiency" to PROTECT THE LORD CHARGE THE HARATIC!!!!!.
They literally went ballistic just to protect their leader against a literal human tank, this is why I love guardsmen and Krieg more than space marines, the latter are badass, but the Krieg are just regular humans going against all odds and still getting the job done for the sake of others.
Lasguns are great against space marine armor unless you're using hellguns or aiming for weak spots, but Kriegers tend to carry AT grenades or melta bombs so rushing the heretic astartes so that the explosives get close enough to kill it is viable. 10-20 Kriegers is worth taking down a Khornate berserker
@@joshuasitzema9920 This, the way I always found gets my friends to understand the Krieg mindset when they asked about these fanatics is that Kriegers think of themselves the same way we think of ammunition - how much is acceptable to throw down range is entirely dependent on context. Smol worthless heretics trapped in tunnels with one of His Angels of Death and the the boys in the platoon = no threats to the Lord Angel, follow him and clear rooms as he advances while allowing him to take fire, no objective worth spending lives on. Khorne Bezerker arrives = Lord Angel in danger of dying, Heretic Astartes melee specialist in close proximity, maximum threat. Platoon is to engage in combat, draw heretic away from lord angel, Hanz has the AT bundle to kill, His Angel is worth more than entire platoon. Hence, you get engagements like this, where the Kriegers go from single shots to mag dumping because the context has changed. Only the bullets are Kriegers
@rjhogan07 and oddly enough had they been able to kill the beserker without doing the suicide attack they would. Kriegers are painfully pragmatic, and I say painfully because to everyone else they're insanely hard to work with.
Whoever animated this did a REALLY good job depicting the soul, via the eyes, of the tank commander. In one sense, the tank commander is in awe & admiration of these strange gas masked men. But, in another sense, he clearly finds them vastly more frightening than the men who are TRYING TO KILL HIM.
@@maxgregor6858 or in fantasy the mount always and i do mean always do better than the rider. I had a 10 man block of empire inner circle knights of the white wolf(Strength4, toughness4). Full plate(4+ armour save), warhorse(+1AS) with barding(+1AS) and a 2h warhammer. I needed 3+ to hit vs 3 toughness, which is most things except chaos, dwarves, orcs & ogres. Warhorse 3 str, 3toughness. 4+ to hit. Knights 3/5 hit, and 1-2wounds maybe 1 dies. Horse, 4hits 3wounds 3 dies. Every round of combat. Knights with lance thats a str4 weapon and -1 to AS. Thats -2AS, does almost nothing on charge and afterwards, why? Shitty rolls on a d6. Reasons why i dont play warhammer anymore, i cant roll anything past a 4
Korpsmen: "With all due respect, my lord Astartes, we are _men of Krieg._ We are -expendable- meant to die." -Salamander: "Not to me."- Dark Angel: "Very well, guardsmen. Glory to the first man to die. *For the Emperor!"*
@@maxgregor6858 What? You mean people can't see the obvious insignia on the Astartes' pauldrons, or knee-guards? ...Thankfully for them, I am not a Commissar.
i love how in any other universe, the people with perfectly functional ranged weapons charging into the big dude with the giant melee weapon wouldn't make any tactical sense, but these are KRIEG guardsmen so it is EXACTLY what they would be doing
I was always surprised by the amount of IG charges that end well even though they don't make any sense xD. When I was reading it it was always like: -open fire -melee (how the f... enemy got so quickly to them) but to be honest in many cases flanking/flamethrowers etc. helped a bit :)
@@maxgregor6858 Historically, charges against ranged positions had some field use, but were also potently effective in a psychological sense. In the era of muskets, for some reason, men would rather be shot with a .70 caliber ball than skewered with a bayonet.
Muskets are fairly inaccurate to the degree that they’re primarily psychological in nature, due to being incredibly loud and producing a large volume of smoke from the rough black powder of the day, which further means that any shot after the first is obscured. This is actually why so many people saw multiple battles despite living in an era when any wound could quickly become fatal. Fixing bayonets and charging just meant you were serious.
@@krayzoman That's kind of true. Out to a certain range, muskets were fairly reliable as far as accuracy goes. You could at least hit a man-sized area at a respectable range. The effects of smoke were nullified by the way soldiers formed ranks and maneuvered. You might not hit an individual soldier you aimed at, but you would likely hit something if you aimed at the mass of them. Studies over the years have shown that when push comes to shove, even trained soldiers were hesitant to shoot to kill, and that only a small percentage did so consistently. This trend continued through WWII. Training has changed since, but that's a whole other issue.
In fact, I remember it as " in life, war, in death, peace. In life, shame, in death, atonement"... But, yeah, as religious soldier who are trying to atone for the sin of a part of their planet, they usually find a good way to die, or to to do things to the extreme...
One of my favorite krieg story is about a city that they bombard for 5 years, then the city surrender, they continue to bombard it for 3 years, then no life can be spotted in the city, and they continue to bombard it for 2 more years, just to be sure XD
Regular Guardsmen" Oh no the traitorous chaos space marines are coming! We're doomed! Gasmask Bois: Would you look at that, an extra big target to bayonet charge.
Krieg literally means war, and Viking culture is all about dying in combat. If anything Chaos Marines are needed to carry on the glory of dying in combat. Don't mention that if you're trying to join the military though, they don't like viking culture even though they claim to love it. "Our job is to save people, not charge into combat to die in a blaze of glory." Fuck that shit then. Also they let the enemy live... vikings just kill all the enemies, that includes the women and kids... leaving the roots is just asking for Taliban problems.
Well props to marine but I've got problems with Leman Russ. Side armor isnt front armor but It went through marine's body and twice his armor so unless this is some chaos gods blessing somethings wrong with the tank ...
Krieg's Positive Attitude -They have flares! --> Nice. Artillery thanks you to indicates the spot to aim. -They are so many! --->Nice. Less need to aim, we can charge faster! -Ambush in the woods! --> Np, Cyberhorses don't fear trees -"Sir, sir! There is a freacking chaos berserker in the tunnels! --> Our explosives works better in confined environnement. Let it come -"Sir! Cadians and Marines having trouble against chaos. What do we do?" --> It's tuesday. Clean the field. Routine 34. Don't forget to stare them to reminder who are the epitome of the imperial guard. -"We lost half our men, but we won!" --> Double ration for everyone tonight!" -"The ennemi hides the sun, we'll have trouble recharging our lasguns" --->"Yeaaa, but less visibility means easier to get in showel range
The last part in the underground trench is why I love Kriegsmen so much. They absolutely do not care, be it man or chaos space marine, they will fix bayonets and charge no matter who it is.
@@PoloH2001 AAAAAAaaaaaaah. From the way that I read it, sounded like he had met with some tragedy and was thus unable to do anything more, that's why I was confused.
@@silversolitaire1519 to my knowledge Sodaz got pressured by GW. either work for them, or take all warhammer related vids ofline or get sued. same happened to the guy who made "Astartes". and it shows. "Pariah Nexus" really is Astartes and Sodaz next level.
Well thats how you animate faster. By using already made models etc. Plus honestly in so huge universe as 40k you can find everything. So its possible it rly exists in 40k.
Chaos Marine: "When I look at you pathetic flesh being, all I see is a corpse that will make a small sacrifice to my god." Krieg soldier about to blow himself up: "Perhaps, but while you see one man I...C4." Boom.
Chaos space marines: Fools I’m a walking weapon I can kill 100 men! Kriegsman: I feel sorry for the one man left standing. Chaos marine: that he’ll be alone and afraid! Kriegsman: that he’ll be standing over your body incredibly disappointed that you were incapable of killing 101 men! Get your shovels out and charge! *one shovel fight later* Kriegsman #81: THAT WAS ONLY 80 MEN YOU LIAR BALL AND SHRIEK FOR US HERETIC *angry gas mask noises* Chaos space marine: *balling and shrieking* Space marine: These people won’t let me go home, and are dragging my limp body so I can give them orders to do suicide charges, god emperor help me!
And everybody (except chaos space marine) lived happily ever after. THE END Krieg version: And everybody died happily very soon while killing heretics for the Emperor. THE END
I love how the kreig soldiers get pined down by an mmg and the space marine takes it out, then when the chaos space marine is about to kill the other space marine the krieg return the favor by sacrificing themselves to save the space marine.
"I've once fought with Krieg. They abandon all knowledge of former strategy. They charge without any remorse. It is like they want to fall. However, Krieg puts fear into our enemie's heart." Commisar Lawyens. They are loyal. They are proud, yet they are children. Fighting. Believing. Winning. Beware their forces.
Well I dont agree that "They abandon all knowledge of former strategy. They charge without any remorse." You dont become elite force just by charging, killing and getting killed. They like direct approach but not braindead way.
@@maxgregor6858 Its noted that of all the various planetary regiments, Krieg are the only ones where Commissars have to discourage suicidal charges precisely because of how they were raised and where they come from. To them, dying is the atonement for their planet's failure to keep in faith and obeisance to the Emperor of Mankind... Despite the fact that their planet was all but destroyed on the surface and a 400 years Civil War was fought to regain it in the name of the Imperium. Many of the men of Krieg are test tube babies. Its practically illegal in the Imperium, however, Krieg gets special privilege due to its morbidly lethal surface AND because its population sustainment is incredibly difficult. And with its Basic Training and rigorous quality check of Krieg troopers, many don't make it past the final qualifications, which includes sending fresh graduates to the surface to learn to fight and survive in inhospitable terrain. However, they're also incredibly tactile in their strategic and tactical acumen. They specialize in trench warfare and attrition. Which is why their morbid take on life, and their immense desire to die for the Emperor makes them so feasible a force for such environs of war.
@@JohnDoe-wt9ek All true but still they use tactics etc. There is a difference between braindead charge and charge that simply isnt necessary at this point in time.
@@JohnDoe-wt9ek the civil war was 500 years (sorry couldn't help myself) and as well as the test tube baby thing they are also the only imperial guard force allowed to use combined arms
Chaos Marine: I have killed so many, what makes you any different...? Krieger: ...I am willing to die to see you dead. Chaos Marine: then you will die like the rest. Krieger: you won't survive to see the rest. Heretic Marine: wait what **BOOM!**
Not only that this animation is so good the animator actually used a real-life ambush tactic with dealing with column convoys. Which is destroying the lead vehicle and then destroying the trailing vehicle behind. Boxing the middle vehicle as the last one to destroy making the infantry more vulnerable because they lost their force multiplier. This is some good stuff indeed.
I love how the bolter rounds are actually explosive!! Also how everything is portrayed, especially the combined power and agility of marines... This is authentic af
Wouldn't be bad if we had: a) scouts to warn us about ambush b) infantry that prepared, spread out and didnt walk in a column hugging my tank c) space marines that hunted for AT weapons opearators and chaos space marines instead of killing only 1 and then killing anything they wanted.
Ive heard about special STC bayonets in Gaunts Ghosts (best part: it was said that every scout who found this STC got his own planet) but it was said only space marines use them. To be honest if Death Korps is using them then they are cheap so everybody should use them.
@@maxgregor6858 well, that's the thing Unlike other guard groups, Kreig makes their own weaponry. So, it's highly possible that they can make their own special gear that the admech don't know about. Though, it would be considered heresy then.
@@apuffball5754 Well as far as I remember their gasmasks and uniforms are special. But many regiments uses different types of equipment that are more or less unique for example Iron Guard has different type of rifles, Catachanes has unique knifes, Gaunt's ghosts camo nets and also some of them to some degree rifles (nalwood part).
@@maxgregor6858 true, but the admech make everyone else's gear for them. Krieg is a production planet for soldiers and weapons, which is why an admech priest is either always trying to get in or is always present (if I remember correctly).
@@apuffball5754 I know Krieg is making weapons and equipment for their regiments but honestly I've never thought who's in charge of that and how much they produce exactly. Is it only infantry equipment or Leman Russ tanks.
heretic marine: tell the emperor i said hello krieger: tell him *they both hear the beeping* krieger: yer self.... heretic marine: man... he about to wreck my shi......... *boom*
As said before 1. Never face the krieg in trenches unless you want to be bury by them 2. Don't use a flare.. you'll give away your position for their artillery 3. Never mind what I said, these Krieg are sill going to kill you
I think my favourite things about this is that no one is shown as incapable or weak, the heretics and Black Legion had good tactics, the Cadians were holding their own along with the Dark Angels.
It's important to note that the the Kriegsman are attacking while the artillery barrage is on going. At first I thought this might be an oversight, but I realize that this was probably intentional, and is definitely in keeping with their mindset.
@@XnecromungerX Of course it is but the point was that it is very dangerous for your own troops. In vid you can see guardsmen going in before even dust settled down, From your own link "the French reckoned they should be suffering 10% of their casualties from their own artillery if they were close enough to the barrage"
@@maxgregor6858 It's quite embarrassing that anyone could think that GW's acquisition of those fanmade animators would be any good. They simply wanted to get rid off competition for their Netflix and now previously free animations will be paid and animators bound to GW's will and restrictions.
I love how Kriegans are showed here. Especially the looks tank commader gives them. See, lorewise if Guard is joined with astartes, regular guardsmen have one of two thoughts. The run of the mill IG grunt will see astartes as demigods and will be happy that they are fighthing with him The ones that have a bit more realistic point of view on situation will curse the day they were born, as if IG is joined with Space Marines, it means the situation is REALLY bad and most likely they wont see the end of the next day. But when Death Corps of Krieg shows up, both of the above will be equally scared/concerned. As even you cant see faces of astartes, they have some charachteristics to differentiate from each other. Seals, pauldrons, helmets etc. Not the Kriegans. They will all look the same, with no faces, always moving effectively, in minimalistic way. Thats why Krieg mostly fights alone. As deploying them with most of the IG regiments leads to drastic morale drop for every non-kriegan. You know that Kriegans are messed in the heads, if Commisars are attached to their ranks to actually DECREASE their zeal. And for Commisars the only worse fate than being attached to Krieg units, is being attached to Ratling units (where their survival chance drops lower and lower by each day).
The best part is the fact that at some point there were experiments with mixing Krieg and nonkrieg officers and troops. In both cases officers had a lot of accidents and very high casualties rate :).
wouldnt you be happy the kriegans were there tho, since they normally get sent to the absolute worst of battlefields and are probably there to save your sorry ass and break the stalemate, some guardsmen might be more relieved to see a krieger than an astartes
@@heliosjollywolf9552 Considering how Kiregans wage their campaigns and war, not really. When Astartes are dropped in, there is a tiny chance that their tactical teams will end the fight by pinpoint attacks to the "head" of enemy. IG trooper might be just a bit lucky to avoid the heat of the fight, and summary execution at the end. Yes, most guard regiments are being summarly executed or decimated after fighting along astartes, just for the safety. When Kriegans are dropped, there are dropped not by regiment, but by cores or armies. And the whole planet will be turned into one big battlefield and a meat grinder.
@@heliosjollywolf9552 well too be fair. The Death Korps of Krieg is more like a slower smaller scale delete button. They did wipe a hive of the face of a planet. Only took them what eight to ten years?
It still gets me hype every time I see it. For that brief moment, the camera cuts away quickly, 3:30 you see the Dark Angel trying to keep up with the Kriegers
As I said in my reaction. How space marine who started running during riders attack ended behind krieg infantry that came a bit later and are not space marines :P
i think its more that the marine had just survived a last stand and was given mere seconds to prepare himself to chargin these line, but the Korp do so with NO hesitation in their bones. they see the task at hand and prepare accordingly.
@@maxgregor6858 I now want an animation with 2 space marines shooting during a last stance while discussing how bad the week was and they just want to go to the after-work drinks
The Krieg trooper at 2:57 feels...nothing. No triumph, no justification, he's just doing his job. He's killed a heretic cold, a sniveling coward laid out before him defenseless, and he won't remember it three seconds later. He may be one of the dozens that falls in the next few minutes, he may live for sixty years, and either way, that moment means absolutely nothing to him. Just another day in the Death Korps.
Thats the effect of years of indoctrination that creates fanatics. Maybe the were some emotions behind gas mask we dont know for sure but I doubt it. He didnt hesitate a bit.
Everybody would need a break after "deal" like that with GW and getting hated for job you didnt get in the end. I mean I guess thats what haters wanted but who knows how retards think.
Well gasmasks as far as I remember were designed to look scary etc. plus you dont see the face at all and for example I have little problem when people are using sunglasses and I cant see their eyes which show emotions etc.
They are more depressed by how incredibly sad and suicidal all the Krieg are. Guardsman: hey man heard you guys won the battle with minimal casualties! Krieg: I know it’s horrible. We should have died in the field for the emperor!!
Yeah, the disregard for their own lives is a problem for morale when other Imperial Guard regiments are deployed alongside them. They are so zealous and raised/trained to want to crush the enemy or, seemingly preferring to die trying, that Commissars are assigned to platoons of DKoK, the only non Krieg natives in the Korps, to not inspire them with more zeal and to make them fight harder but to instead calm them down so morale doesn't suffer too much in other regiments.
Love how nearly invincible all space marines are. Like one took an armor piercing launcher round to the chest and still had enough energy to look up at the guy about to finish the job, and literally nothing other than "it would stop a heavy tank in it's tracks" type shells are going to kill them, the emperor approves
@@maxgregor6858 Indeed, their reflexes, vision, and helmet optics and intense training make them able to spot almost anything before they can spring the ambush.
The Chaos Guardsmen were lucky that these weren't Raven Guard Marines. If you see two of them, then the 20 you missed will kill you. THe sons of Corvus Corax define stealthy.
Amazing piece by SODAZ, the entrance of the berzerker is why I love Khornate armies. Only criticism is a zerker would never leave an Astartes skull unclaimed before chopping up some guardsmen, he would die taking it if he needed to.
Other Unit: *Retreats after 96 percent casualties, losing all commissars, the General, and even the priests who tagged along* Kriegers: *Stares in utter contempt*
Well that was cool. Chaos Marines just murdering all these Imperials and a few Astartes, when suddenly guys on horses with explosive spears charge in. I love it. I have so much stuff to read up on as someone mostly new to 40k lore... everyday I find a fan animation that was taken down, I discover something new to learn about. Death Korps have such a cool aesthetic. Thanks for the reupload, sucks it had to be taken down in the first place.
I think I'd limit it to a faction PvP game akin to Planetside 2, but... well, bigger... Of course, for that to work, you'd need to make gameplay changes that don't make any sense lore-wise, but that stuff happens all the time. They did do something similar with Eternal Crusade, but that barely has anyone playing it atm.
Games Workshop will reap bad karma for antagonizing this great animator. For all of those animators. Sodaz was the one who did Warhammer 40k justice by creating this, and GW just had to jump in and shit on his passion for it. Bad karma, bad faith.
Well its not the first time they do bad things. Honestly since the time they had problem with ArchWarhammer and warhammer in his name Im not surprised by anything.
Lol what? Sure GW asked him to take down the videos but they also hired him. It was a bunch of toxic war hammer fans harassing him that made him leave 40k completely
@@noobvannoob2286 It wasn't much of a choice, it was Sodaz himself who revealed that they were being given ultimatums. Delete your content and join the dark side, or DON'T join the dark side and still remove the content anyway. He did the only thing left for him and that was to join. But what did he get afterwards? Radio silence, meanwhile all the fancy CG animators got all the mentions and details. Anyway, I did you enough of a favor by explaining this much. Go watch Majorkill's video that explains the same thing. You can also see other tubers in the circle saying the same thing.
@@noobvannoob2286 As far as I understand they have never hired him. SODAZ lost any contact with them for a long time then they came back second time but SODAZ decided that he wont work for them.
Sure now we need only 20 vids to explain why Dark Angels were here. What they wanted to get/what they wanted to hide/who they wanted to interrogate etc. etc. :D
Krieg Commander: “And someone got a lance kill, who the fuck ordered a lance charge?” Krieg Captain: “I did.” Krieg Commander: “That’s some fine initiative!”
Commissar: Send in the psychopathic monsters!! Astartes: But the Chaos Legion is already here. Commissar: No, they are A psychopathic monster. I said THE psychopathic monsters. Astartes: You can't be serious?! For a couple hundred daemons?! That's overkill! Meanwhile; Chaos Legion: Jesus fucking Christ, they sent THEM! Chaos Formations break as crazy fuckers in gas masks wielding shovels start dropping fools like flies.
What I like most about this is that those Kriegers at the end weren't exactly a distraction for the grenade one. They were trying to jam their lasguns' barrels into the Berzerker's armor joints. All of them were really trying to take the guy down.
Tank Commander: Damn, they must've been veterans of many battles. Chad Krieg Guardsman: This commander looks at least 24 years old. He must've been a veteran to live that long.
I like how they are perfectly willing to die, but they want their death to serve the Emperor; they're not just suicidal. When they are attacked in the tunnel by the emplaced gun, they don't step out of cover until the Space Marine takes out the gunner.
Note: at the beginning, with the Cadians, the Astartes are leading the Cadians. At the end, with the Kriegers, the Astartes are FOLLOWING the Kriegers. In life, war. In death, peace. In life, shame. In death, atonement. ONLY IN DEATH DOES DUTY END, FOR EMPEROR AND THRONE.
GW are like the military and weapon contracts. "Woah, this is super cool and everyone thinks it's super cool!...... We might make a deal, but until then, nobody else can have it."
5:03 Me: Your a Krieg Soldier and You see a giant massive HULKING heretic in armor, with zero chances of winning, and he comes rushing to you, What do you do? Kreigsmen: Strap a Anti Tank Grenade and Run at him with full speed like a dang fool.
Fun Fact: Did you know that Usually Commissars are behind their men to watch them? WELL! The Commissars are Infront of Kreigsmen because the Kreigsmen watch their Commissars.
@@benreynolds5433 Well they like to watch everybody that isnt from Krieg and doesnt feel the right vibe xD. What I do? I charge and end my and his painful existance :P.
@@benreynolds5433 fun fact I made a comment much like that a few months ago. About how is SOP for the Imperium to put someone far scarier behind the unit to keep them from running away. And that's why the commissars are in the front of the Krieg units
Yeap one of the best for sure but Astartes for example are better in terms of animation but much much shorter and If the Emperor had text to speech device in worse in the terms of animation but much much longer and with tons of stories :D. We are lucky with so many choices.
@@Macharius89 The day They will go against ETTS will be their last. As for Kitten I always had problem how it happened since Custodes were not leaving Imperial Palace :)
@@maxgregor6858 They can leave the Palace if they are on a diplomatic or protection mision. Beside, he is the Captain General, a high Lord of Terra and a magnificent Daddy. He can go wherever he please. I supose
WW1 didnt have "horses" that eat bolter rounds and kept going. At least thats what they tell you Shhhhh check this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MH_YPkZvDbs.html
It warms my heart to see so many channels re-uploading this excellent animation in defiance of Games Workshop's clearly chaos influenced mania. MaxGregor, may the GodEmperor smile upon you for contributing to his divine work in the benefit of all mankind.
@@maxgregor6858 Hahhah, multiple copies of me would probably be enough to make Slaneesh go full on celibate and join a convent lol. Nah, it's still a horrible idea....
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