I watched one 411 story about a 5 year old. She was missing for 3 days in the winter and found 9 miles from where she was. She said the bear people took good care of her and fed her food. She said they kept her warm and was nice. BEAR PEOPLE!!!!!
Welcome to the strange and spooky world of Mr Ballen! I’m a total addict. He’s a great storyteller. I will say that I pick and choose which ones I watch. Some of them are too creepy for me. What people do to each other, yeah, those give me chills.
and, yes, hundreds go missing in national parks every year you have to bear in mind: some of these parks are HUGE; Adirondack Park in upstate NY is six *million* acres, which is well over 24,000 km²; England is, by comparison, 130,000 km², and they don't have much in the way of safety features, so to speak; if you want to go camping in Denali National Park in January in board shorts and a tank top, ultimately they can't stop you, they can just strongly advise you, and maybe keep an eye out for your corpsicle. also, when people are reported missing, sometimes it's just someone running behind schedule on the trail or getting a little lost, and they're found within 24 hours of being reported; even the people who aren't found alive, most of the time enough remains are found eventually to confirm their fate
I think it's hard for people who live in other countries to understand just how big the US is.They can just go on a short drive and be in another country for the day. I'm over here like, it takes 12-14 hours just to get across my state.
Appalachian trail is beautiful and an amazing hike and ive had a lot of fun there over the years. There are a lot of scary things on the trail that can kill you. Bears snakes hell injuries. But the scariest thing I’ve ever seen on the trail is other people sometimes it’s not a nice feeling to come across someone who’s by themselves in the middle of nowhere….
Yes, Dennis Martin was a huge deal at the time. We read news stories about his disappearance. SF can use SAR as training. Doesn't have to be a bear, it could be a human wearing a bearskin coat. Esp relevant if the person was a survivalist/mountain man living in the woods. There are way too many stories of kids vanishing in parks.
yeah, I meant to say something about that; there are definitely people, mostly white men, living rough in national parks or in the area nearby. park rangers may or may not know of them, because the parks tend to be woefully understaffed. there are also parts of Appalachia where no authority holds sway except for the people that live there. I've heard secondhand stories (so take them with a pinch of salt) about cops that go up the wrong rural road only to find a handful of men carrying shotguns and wearing homemade clothes strongly advising them to turn around and head back down the mountain.
We have 3 Narional Parks in Washington. Mt Rainier, North Cascades, and Olympic. All three involve mountains, and very rugged terrain in much of the Parks. Together they total 1,663,812.3 square acres. That's an awful lot of area to get lost in. People disappear every year. They aren't alway found.
6:59 the main reason for the Green Berets involvement in the search for Dennis Martin was because by pure chance they were performing a training exercise nearby that's why they joined the search Kabir
Forest, people disappear in open desert in Arizona all the time. Superstition mountain is cursed.Grand canyon has people missing. Looking for one person finds another's. What people don't understand is old mine shafts, caves,holes in ground, cartels,miners looking for dutchman mine.
@@returntonature8773 I'm familiar with Missing 411 and there are definitely cases where animal attacks have been improperly eliminated - mountain lions, for example, routinely move the bodies of their kills to store them for later consumption, and if they catch you unawares they can absolutely kill you without a death struggle. They've also been seen increasingly outside their historic range. But I was speaking more broadly, not just Missing 411, in response to the question about the sheer number of disappearances in the parks.
@@Cubs-Fan.10 I dunno about that, men argue with me way more than women do, especially on the internet that said, the most likely reason a bear would attack a human is if it's a sow* with cubs and the human(s) have gotten to close to said cubs * yes, a female adult bear is a sow, and an adult male is a boar, just like domestic pigs and wild boars; this is also the case for badgers, guinea pigs, hedgehogs, raccoons, mustelids, viverrids, and many others. why? 🤷♀️
oooo MrBallen!! He's the best. I'm addicted. He's seriously so awesome. You could do a whole playlist on just reacting to him lol. This must be his early work, before he had his signature "if you're a fan of the strange dark and mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right place because that's all we do..." line
This is one of Mr. Ballen's early vids. He's smoothed out his style at this point. He's keeps the listener very interested with relative ease. Great story-teller. Great reaction Kabir!
Kabire I know of one area in Maine where 3 policemen went missing when they went camping out in the forest back in the 60's. The thing is that area is a place the locals don't go. They wouldn't even help with the search. When asked why their answer was "No one goes there. It's always been that way. The Native Americans will not go there either." Their camp was found and they were tracked deeper into the woods. Then the tracks they left behind just stopped. The search never found them. There is a vast area in Maine where there is simply, nothing. Aircraft have crashed there and never been found.
Since he was mentioned in the video Les Stroud has a channel on RU-vid called Survivorman - Les Stroud where he has full length survival videos and some videos looking for bigfoot. However he is a true survivalist he walks out into the wilderness by him self with just his camera equipment, minimal tools, and no water. You should do a video on him, start with season 1 epsode 1 boreal forest.
Honestly, other people are the biggest threat when you're out in the wilderness. The majority of times I've been super glad I was armed is because of sketchy people, not animals.
MrBallen is one of my favorites! (His name is John B. Allen so his RU-vid name is just his middle initial and last name.) And his Like button suggestions are epic. You should check out his own personal scary story plus the one of how he got injured when he was a Navy Seal.
Here's the thing: I find it very easy to believe that people go missing mysteriously -- especially in national parks. In my experience, a LOT of people try to go out into wilderness areas that they are completely unprepared for. I have run into hikers on the Appalachian Trail, miles from a trail head, and they ask me, "Hey, where does this trail go?" (Answer: Maine or Georgia, depending on direction). Luckily, all they had to do was turn around and find where they got onto the trail -- hopefully before dark. It is human nature to think you are in control of a situation, when truthfully you have no idea what could happen to you. Several months ago, a young family and their dog were found dead at a campsite in California, and the investigation pointed to heat stroke (they had insufficient water and succumbed to a freak heat wave). If you get dehydrated, or if you get hypothermic (or suffer from heat exhaustion), you can get disoriented very quickly. You think you know where you are, you make some impaired decisions, you panic, you make some additional bad moves, and in fairly short order you are miles off-trail. At that point, you can be a victim of an injury, exposure or lack of water. It does not take much.
The only logical thing that I can think of on story 2 is that Keith was snatched up by a cougar possibly, because Oregon has a ton of them and he did mention a cat.
The one thing about the whole 'i turned around for just a minute, and they were gone' ... is that the "just a minute" could be mistaken people are notoriously unreliable witnesses, and it could actually be much longer that their backs were turned
In the Appalachians it’s very common for the locals to be taught about “wild men” if you hear whistling, no you don’t, you ignore it. If you hear someone screaming for help in the forest, that’s not a person. And again, you don’t hear it. There are some places where the park rangers won’t go. And people down there don’t even talk about it really. They just act like it doesn’t exist and the amount of tourists that disappear there is incredibly high.
A few years ago, we had a Bigfoot scare on the reservation. Bigfoot hunters and TV crews descended on us, and a "nest" was found. I knew the eyewitness (a security guard) and he was totally shook.
In real life, there isnt always a neat tidy answer to every mystery. A couple of those sounded like predators- bears or large cats. But people get lost all the time- they wander off the trails - crawl into a nook or cranny for shelter and die of exposure- and they seem to vanish. That doesnt mean they were snatched by aliens, or bigfoot- it means they got lost. People create answers to things they cant explain. "If you sail too far west you will fall off the edge of the earth"
I love watching Mr. John Ballen! He is like the master of a great story teller, that'll have you glued to your chair! Hence the reason, I've ALREADY SEEN EVERY SINGLE THING HE JUST SAID! But, I watched it again, bc hey, Kabir AND Ballen....?? Um, yes please! It is sad, that there are never going to be a rhyme or reason, or.... closure! But, yeah, you should watch his stuff and to give you a great one to watch that'll have you thinking, " What? Omg! No! What's going to happen next", WITH THE GREATEST STORYTELLER, go to his page and look up," If you hear a bell in the woods!" This story ends ok, nobody dies or goes missing, but man, it's going to keep you on your toes! Ty for another great vid! Much ♡ K fam!
Yes, our national parks are huge. There's only been a half ass attempt of a database of people missing in national parks. We have around 70 N. Parks, the largest is in Alaska and its a about 20000 sq. miles, Yellowstone is about 3500 sq. miles, The Grand Canyon is around 1900 sq. miles and that's only 3 of the parks. Parts are very thick wooded areas, if I'm not mistaken they arent even all exactly mapped out. The parts that aren't are the really dense parts that are hard to get to.
I say that Chris tried to cross the barbed wire to relieve himself. He got his boot caught and flipped upside down. He pulled his foot out of the boot, meaning to free it from the wire. While so occupied, a black bear snatched him up and hauled him off.
Hundreds go missing because millions of people go into the wilderness of these parks completely unprepared. They think it's Disney World. Step off the trail, make a few wrong turns, and now you're walking in circles for the rest of your life.
I've walked through even small forested areas and its amazing how easy it is to get disoriented.every tree look like every other tree.Fortunately they all have been near some busy road so worst case just walk towards the sound of the traffic.
Their is a group every year looking for a hiker been missing a few years . Last seen White Pass never made it to Snoqualmie Pass . When I'm in the area hiking I always keep an eye out as I like to walk slow and quietly looking at nature. Both passes are 1 1/2 hours away. Crater Lake is popular with Cougars .2 years ago closing part of PCT cause of a female with 2 cubs. Here in Washington 2 bicyclists were attacked by a cougar as he was biting ones head the other guy ran and the cougar got him with the 1st escaping. Wildlife personal found body in bushes then tracked and killed the cougar.
So glad to see a reaction to Mr Ballen. Also there are some crazy documentaries and videos about Missing 411 including many Mr Ballen videos on it too. It’s a truly strange phenomenon.
I dunno about the disappearances, but I'm in the believer camp on Bigfoot. There's a hot spring here where, imo, they watch and follow and mess with people. I've heard them, repetitive pounding noises, been followed, I think, and smelled them -- the smell is pretty specific, musky animal BO and fecal smell, and the smell itself is scary. I don't know why the smell scared me, but it wasn't the existential cold sweats from the smell of rotting death, just a deep fear that made me want to leave quickly. I believe they can growl in a register below our hearing, too, something you can feel which produces a fear response, but can't quite hear unless they want you to. I suspect they know how to manipulate us covertly, push our buttons, make us react the way they want, like a stage magician or ninja. I suspect they're more intelligent than just an animal, yet still fully wild. Hard to say, but encounters seem way more common than sightings.
my only argument is story number 3... and correct me if I'm wrong or misheard something but... snow doesn't just start off at 7 ft... it has to first build up henceforth, it begins to snow... more than likely whatever happened he wasn't expecting such a terrible storm to come in and therefore probably walks with little issue in the beginning at least half the distance from where his body was found... perhaps he set up camp, and then something happened. he went to go relieve himself and got lost in the snow storm, decided to attempt to find his way back to the road to see if he could find help, or something similar that drove him away from his campsite... eventually walking long enough and having hypothermia set in he stripped his clothes off except for his pants socks and boots, and then proceeded to take his final seat upon the log... clearly if there was nothing left but bones that means that his body was there for a very long time, long enough to deteriorate his remains to bone. eventually nature takes hold and the body deteriorates enough in which the skull falls free and rolls away from the body since it has the smallest point of failure, the neck. but if let's say an animal got to the body before it fully rotted it would pull from one side or the other since the body would be draped over a log. in this case clearly it went for the upper half. but an animal more than likely would have to be starving to eat a rotting body not including scavengers. they have evolved to be like that too avoid disease. but that would explain why the upper half is missing but not the lower half. because the animal that was starving ate it and more than likely it died a short time later, and no other animal was willing to touch the carcass. but in the end the only odd thing would be that the skull remains and the torso is missing... but then again the skull would have had less meat on it, for the lack of better words, so by the time the corpse was already rotting and then found by the animal the head more than likely would have rotted and fell off already. most anything edible gone... in the end story 3 is fairly explainable so long as one has a basic knowledge of biology, weather, physics, and the eating habits of animals.
Funnily enough, The green beret's don't go looking for missing individuals. It's not something they do (at least to my knowledge and from hearing from someone who was a green beret). So them being there looking for the kid is strange in of itself. On top of that, they were doing their own thing, with their own communications and base/camp of operations, etc. It is a very very interesting case none the less.
@@hifijohn None of the reports David Paulides has collected and reported about are "Punched up". They are involving real people and cases. Also it would be insensitive and disrespectful to do so, and it would hurt his reputation and credibility. Now, if you are referring to Mr. ballin, then I will say he has left out bits of information regarding a few cases to keep the video at a respectful length and hasn't "punched up" stuff to make it more exciting. (The 411 books are there for us all to read if we don't want to listen or have doubts.)
I live in the Northern area of Minnesota towards a small town called Grand Marais and every single year at least 20 or 30 people go missing in The Boundary Waters in the Superior National Forest in Northern Minnesota. People blame it on the big ass terrifying Timberwolves or the massive grizzly bears that we have. But me and the local Native Americans no it's not the Timberwolves or the Bears. It's Wendigo! They are thousand times faster than a vampire and a thousand times stronger than a werewolf with the intelligence of a creature that's been around for millennia. In the Utah area of the United States they're most commonly referred to as skinwalkers because the windigo inhabit a human being and allows it to transform and shapeshift into a terrifying creature like Wendigo or a creature similar to a ghoul a vicious humanoid fast skinny bloodthirsty. The reason why they go mission is because the windigo eats you hole. Your body nourishes wendigos body and your soul nourishes the windigo spirit. in the Pacific Northwest like Washington and Oregon in the great rainforest they also have Wendigo and skinwalkers which they say are fledgling wendigos. There are old old things that live deep inside of our forest and they do not want to be disturbed by the likes of us by any means necessary. That's why hundreds of people go missing every single year in our forest. Rule-of-thumb here is you don't travel anywhere in the forest alone or without a gun and a big sharp knife and a reliable compass.
Kabir, I tried to link to the Missing 411 movie but it wouldn't let me add it here, I believe that you would find it shocking just how many people go missing in North America ! I love most of your reactions, if you ever venture to Minnesota Id love to buy you and yours a cup of coffee or a meal, Thank You for helping this middle aged widower and my cat's life less boring, You are a Sterling fellow !!
It's true. I broke my leg hiking in Duvall, WA 8/18/18. At this time, they were still searching for Sam Sayers since 8/1/18 who went hiking at Vesper Pk, WA, who was a highly experienced hiker. SAR called off the search after 30 days. Her friends and other hikers kept searching. Locals searched by drones for her mother. There is no trace of her anywhere. We are still baffled.
I would think if you were with others and in a split second they are gone, if they see a wild animal or attacked, would one hear you call for help or the sounds of struggle. The man with the crew, I wonder if he did not excuse himself to use the bathroom further away behind some trees and then he was attacked by an animal. I still think one can heard some sort of sound. The woods are quite with birds chirping. If it was windy, there would be the sounds of the leaves blowing in the wind. I would think an anmal grabbing a person by the neck and chomping on it, maybe the person could not speak or died instantly. I would like the growl or walking noise of a heavy animal someone would notice. If the bear grabbed on the person with his teeth or swipe with their paws, there would be blood signs and a trail to where the body went. A mountain lion usually sits in the tree and when a person walks by the cat jumps out of the tree on his prey. I do not know about the forest, quicksand or a hole/well in the ground, but the others would have come across it. Sometimes an animal will hide their food. Maybe a hollowed tree trunk that is still standing and dropped a child into it. The little boy that later his clothes were found 12 miles away, could be a man in a bear costume as a joke/clown that attracts little kids and when the kid comes close, snatches him, maybe have that liquid they put on a towel/handkerchief that puts out a person. No screams. The bear/man can sit and wait until the family goes and looks for the boy. A person would not walk up to a bear.
We lost a 5yr old at camp one time and searched frantically for several hours... And when we finally found him he had curled up real small and was asleep under his bed...crazy
Here in Australia the hills of bellthorpe in Queensland experience screaming and guttural growl yelling, wild pigs Kangaroos and birds move like death has called their name when its happening my family have been living at the foot of the mountain for Four generations and we have never seen what it is whatever it is besides the fact of it being impossible to climb its covered in gympie gympie and red belly black snakes and red back spiders. The sound is unforgettable.
Aliens. End of story. Also, I would get a 4 way GoPro so IF they found my hat they would have an idea. But then again, I'm NEVER going to a park or forest ALONE, OR even with a group! Seen the movie Predator? Brrrr!
I'd say the photographer and the surveyor were murdered by their respective companions. If they were the last people to see them alive, and the initial evidence in both cases is basically word of mouth, from those people, that would be the best, and most likely assumption. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
This is so fascinating and bizarre. I've never heard of people just vanishing outside of ghost stories told around the campfire or maybe around Halloween. If some creature like Bigfoot is real there must be a population so them to continue the species. How are they this good at hiding to never see a trace of whatever is doing these abductions?
Yea some of them sound pretty freaky but some sounded more like murder covered up. I mean that 1 dude who was a survivalist could have been killed and then set up to look like he was out there, a wild animal would have simply disposed of the body.
I suppose the majority of those who do go missing are people who get lost in these national parks. It possible that some are victims of foul play. There are instances where the military get involved in a search. Whether it be the National Guard or others. There is no big foot.
Many of Ballens stories I don't even know how to comment on. Very strange. Theres a woman that does the same thing with murders. She has crazy stories too
Who knows really! I have seen plenty of bears, and I saw a cougar once. Had a friend that saw one in the alley behind her house. So if we see them in town, imagine how many more are in the wilderness...
Mr. Ballen is a great story teller of true crime and missing persons, etc. These are creepy no doubt. I don’t know the answers but I do know that mountain lions are super quiet and fast and if they can kill elk (which they do) they could definitely take and kill kids and possibly smaller adults. I heard a story of a mountain lion taking a family’s dog and lifting it over their 6’ fence. I thought ok, it was a small dog but no this was a Rottweiler! Rottweilers are big dogs, 90lbs or more. So they could easily take a small child up a tree or run with it. Grabbing it by the neck would kill it and the person might not be able to scream. I don’t know about the young man in the last story but if he was smallish…it’s possible. I know one mountain lion killed a 18 year old cross country runner in CO so it’s possible.
Both the tiger hunter guy and the photographer at Crater Lake were eaten by animals, IMO. Anyone can fall asleep while leaning against a tree waiting for prey --- all that "but that would never happen to THIS guy" stuff is nonsense. He left food out in the open at his campsite? That alone tells me he was being careless, and it definitely makes all of those "but this guy was so good, he'd never be eaten by a bear!" claims seem quite silly. If he was really that flawless an outdoorsman, then he wouldn't have left food out at his camp! The food at his camp was probably left undisturbed because whatever ate him was no longer hungry. Given more time, it probably would have come back and ransacked his camp - the search just got there first. The Crater Lake photographer probably got lost and either died or was dying of exposure before being taken by a mountain lion. People don't generally visit Crater Lake in the winter, which is why he needed a buddy with an ATV to take him there in the first place -- the roads in aren't even open to regular traffic that time of year. Winter conditions there are really brutal. The other cases are genuinely weird, but these two seemed out of place to me.
You should look up a picture of vanished people and cave systems in America. It’s a map and it shows where most people vanish with out a trace and it just so happens that the place where people go missing the most in America are actually in the same places where America’s largest unexplored cave systems are…. Makes you think is there something we don’t know yet in those caves? Our are people falling through holes into the cave and stuck never to be found. Either way check out the picture and see what you think.
I've always thought 5 might've been a large cat that dragged him off. But I haven't read the book, so I don't know if there's something that shuts down that theory.
Kidnapping and sex trafficking is a HUGE problem in America!! There is a huge market for women and children. A lot of indigenous women and children are going missing and it isn't being covered in the news.
