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🌟Hades: 2023 Updated Weapon Aspects Tier List!! 

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Thanks so much for checking out my tier list for Hades weapons! This game is so fun to talk about and I look forward to hearing your opinions!
0:00 Intro
2:39 Swords
6:11 Spears
11:03 Shields
16:06 Bows
19:53: Fists
26:08 Rail
Tier list Criteria:
S: Strong with many builds, Lots of great hammer choices. Game breaking with certain builds.
A: Solid with many builds, does best with a few specific hammers. Incredibly strong with certain builds.
B: Has a small number of decent build options, does best with a specific hammers. Strong with certain builds.
C: Only 1 or 2 decent build options, NEEDS specific boons or hammers to do well. Strong with very few builds.
D: Only 1 or 2 decent build options, NEEDS specific boons or hammers to do well. Not very strong
Certain weapons (bow, rail) have EXTREMELY good hammers, while others (Spear, fist) have some good hammers, (sword, shield) have some of the worst options for hammers in my opinion, only a couple good options.
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@michaelw6277
@michaelw6277 Год назад
What I love about Arthur is that how it was implemented represents how these styles of very large two handed swords were used in real life… as an area denial weapon.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Interesting! I hadn't thought of that
@burpbot7555
@burpbot7555 9 месяцев назад
And the best part is that it was just as bad IRL as it is in-game.
@hollopurple
@hollopurple 7 месяцев назад
I liked the way you described your thought process and your breakdown of each weapon and your demeanor overall, subbed and thanks for taking the time to make this list.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 7 месяцев назад
Cheers! Thank you for the kind words!
@omgwdfholypoop9328
@omgwdfholypoop9328 Год назад
Just bought the game on a steam sale yesterday and have been having a blast, this video came at literally the best time possible for me lol. Definitely enjoying the bow the most along with the shield so can't wait to try a few of these upgrades!
@davidthompson9504
@davidthompson9504 Год назад
500 hours later and it’s the most I’ve ever enjoyed a game! Enjoy the story and crazy different builds.
@addycorpuz4358
@addycorpuz4358 Год назад
Good luck! we'll see you at the top!
@raulbrenes778
@raulbrenes778 Год назад
I recommend hera's bow with aphrodite's cast. It shreds enemies
@CapybaraLord75
@CapybaraLord75 Год назад
​@@davidthompson9504 wow 500 hours! Do you have content left? I would apreciate a game like that now, my father is having a bad time with money
@davidthompson9504
@davidthompson9504 Год назад
@@CapybaraLord75 Speed runs and higher heat keep the game interesting for a long time. There are still 4 achievements I haven’t got yet. I’m sorry to hear that. If you have a steam account, I’d be happy to gift you the game ☺️
@crimsonECH1DNA
@crimsonECH1DNA Год назад
Honestly with Arthur I'm torn between C and B because I find the defensive perks of it really nice and in a niche case, its arguably the best aspect for a Boonless run.
@CptnCardboard
@CptnCardboard Год назад
Arthur is A tier. It can do such huge chunks and damage and provides so much defensive utility that it's fantastic for having safe runs
@MikeCobweb
@MikeCobweb Год назад
​@@CptnCardboard Exactly. You can go far with it even without having anything on your attack. It's route's are easy too; you can take Aphrodite's attack and her supporting boons or add to it some of Athena's support boons such as dash, call, and bronze skin. Or you can take any of Aphrodite's, Athena's, or Demeter's attack and just take whatever is offered to you randomly and you'll still have a safe run due to it's high base dps and defensive safe capabilities. I actually disagree with most of his rankings. Like Hestia and Lucifer are on the same tier? Really? Anyways, it's his opinion in the end...
@larfee5191
@larfee5191 Год назад
@@CptnCardboard except those big chunks are actually painfully low dps
@rydiggitydog
@rydiggitydog Год назад
It is my favorite
@shoeless1137
@shoeless1137 Год назад
You can like it and I admit it’s fun but it’s 100000% a noob trap and a mid/low tier aspect
@NorthernDruid
@NorthernDruid 11 месяцев назад
Honestly, Guan Yu Spear's spin attack is underrated for it's damage, the healing gives the instinct that it's a sustain utility ability but really it just does really high damage and enables the attack to work with boons that desire multihits like Zeus or Dionysus.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 11 месяцев назад
It's strong but a bit risky is all
@arathyn8294
@arathyn8294 10 месяцев назад
The problem I had with Guan Yu was that when fighting bosses and unstaggerable enemies, the spin attack doesn't really get a change to deal significant damage. It starts to just pass over enemies without doing much. If you want multiple instances of fast damage, the aspect of Zeus aegis is probably a much safer option, and it generally seems to do better as well damage wise.
@aluminumtarkus
@aluminumtarkus 10 месяцев назад
The problem is, to utilize the spin well, you kind of NEED quick spin. Requiring specific hammers to make certain builds even work makes them far less viable imho. I almost never use the spins unless I'm offered quick spin in Tartarus or I know I can use it safely to top off my health. The risk is just often not worth it without quick spin imho.
@TheBlueArmageddon
@TheBlueArmageddon 7 месяцев назад
The health penalty is just WAY too severe
@xxxxSylphxxxx
@xxxxSylphxxxx 7 месяцев назад
@@TheBlueArmageddon You think? I found it one of the very easiest weapons to get a win with, and I was using the spin attack constantly, without the speed hammer! I'll have to try it at high heat and come back, but my feeling from reading comments here is just that people aren't using the spin *enough*! (Same goes for Hades spear tbh... that thing with the hammer that increases spin AOE+damage, or spin speed, just feels busted when using spins as the main form of attack! I'm surprised someone would claim that people shouldn't be using spins... I wonder whether they're properly practiced in using *dash* to release a spin, rather than letting go of attack?)
@Plamen1204
@Plamen1204 Год назад
Yess im gonna need that been getting back to Hades . The hades 2 hype is real.
@untitledpornstar5530
@untitledpornstar5530 10 месяцев назад
Been seven months and I’m still hyped
@yukotrey9422
@yukotrey9422 Год назад
You should make a low blood tier list as well. It takes a long time to max out the Titan blood and some weapons would be better or worse at that stage
@Adam4ge
@Adam4ge Год назад
Just wrote a comment about that. I concur. And with personal playstyle. I feel all weapons can be potent. And the fine tuning for later unlocks become more potent when being mindful of your mirror loadout
@yukotrey9422
@yukotrey9422 Год назад
@@Adam4ge ? Weapons like guan Yu and aspect of chaos are way worse as lower blood then something like aspect of Poseidon or Achilles. That’s all I be saying.
@ElementUser
@ElementUser Год назад
The ones that are good at low Titan's Blood investment (levels 1-2) IMO are: - Aspect of Arthur sword (only gain defensive benefits) - Aspect of Gilgamesh fists (main damage doesn't go up by much) - Aspect of Hera bow (certain casts don't care at all about the bloodstone drop time as they don't get stuck, and you can also use Stygian soul to make that a non-factor too) - Aspect of Lucifer railgun (you don't get too much damage increase per level) - Aspect of Poseidon sword (cast bonus is still pretty good at low levels, the special causing bloodstones to drop is really nice & doesn't change with levels) - Aspect of Achilles spear (a 30-60% increase in attack and cast damage is still a ton) Special mentions go to Aspect of Zagreus bow and fists, because it only costs a total of 5 Titan's Blood to max out this aspect on a weapon (rather than 15 or so).
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Not exactly what you are saying but this video sor of addresses what you are asking for: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2l-wfH1aRWQ.html
@yukotrey9422
@yukotrey9422 Год назад
@@JawlessPaul just read this. Preciate it man!!
@mostafasabdelatif
@mostafasabdelatif Год назад
i agree with you on pretty much everything dude, and as usual .. your videos are a treat for me .. thank you for your consistent and awesome effort
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Thanks Mostafa! I appreciate you, my friend!
@hugoboncar
@hugoboncar 9 месяцев назад
I LOVE the Aspect of Zeus. To me, it works best with Dionysus boon. Just through it, let it build stacks, and you can run away from your enemy while the DoT finishes it off. I find it VERY safe. Run away and let your shield do the work. But honestly it's a great aspect for a lot of things. If you pair it with Artemis Support Fire you have a pretty good DPS, if you have Aphrodite you can proc your Weakness pretty often and it can be really strong with the boon that adds a chance to charm your enemies. Hades has a great synergy with it too for stacking Doom effects on the target... Imo, it's a very good and very safe aspect.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Obviously this is a game that has a lot of possibility and a lot of people have different playstyles from me.
@odeiomelao
@odeiomelao 4 месяца назад
Ironically enough i just beat the game at lfairly high heat with the exact same artemis combination combine it with the hammer talent that replaces your bull rush with a projectile and any fight becomes a piece of cake
@wolfegaming2505
@wolfegaming2505 Год назад
I agree with your ranking, although I would clarify that lower tiers don't make them bad weapons, just harder to use weapons. Part of the fun of Hades (once you get good) is to make the game harder for yourself. And Having weapons that are harder to use because they dont have as many great abilities or the abilities are harder to match up with defiantly hits that goal.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Definitely! I agree that they are harder to use, though there are some that just have busted damage numbers.
@sam.k.classic
@sam.k.classic Год назад
I'm surprised zeus aspect of chaos shield wasn't S tier. It's extremely versatile.
@nidebau
@nidebau Год назад
Yeah, I just did my very first run with it (ignored it for the longest time because I thought I would be very slow with it). And even though it was 12 heat, I got the hang of it fairly fast and it was, dare I say it, kind of an easy run. Went with a Zeus/Dionysos build and even though there was some luck involved in getting their Duo as well as Dio's legendary, I was surprised at how much fun it was. Would definitely recommend.
@sam.k.classic
@sam.k.classic Год назад
@@nidebau Yeah. And the zeus shield aspect combined with hermes' greater haste (increased movement speed) + rush delivery makes it ridiculously strong. Try it (if you haven't already used that combo.) Deploying the zeus shield as a turret drone and making it chase you is so satisfying. It's great for melee or iso combat. And the block ability (of all the shields) gives it a bigger margin for error especially on high heat (40+).
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
It's really good for most situations! I would say that if you have forced overtime (increased speed) and EM4 on it has a hard time keeping up with the enemy movements.
@TheLazarusOperation
@TheLazarusOperation Год назад
Zeus shield with hangover damage is so fun
@sam.k.classic
@sam.k.classic Год назад
@@TheLazarusOperation yeah, poison damages works really well since it's so easy to apply multiple stacks using the special.
@ciromarin5716
@ciromarin5716 Год назад
I got lucky during my aspect of arthur first run. Also was the first time that I've ever tried that boon where you get bonus damage with your coins (ended with 1500 coins or so), and the damage output combined with chaos and zeus' boons were absolutely ridiculous.
@real23lions
@real23lions Год назад
Awesome vid. One caveat is that if you’re in low heat or before the pact a few of the lower tier aspects can do well. Arthur can facetank enemy attacks and can win easily. My highest win rate unless I do something stupid. Talos is good at no heat when you can pull enemies and one on one them. The hammer with long range helps too.
@Goodpizzaa
@Goodpizzaa Год назад
I think if someone is good at dash attacking sequences with excalibur it can be S. Especially if you get bonus backstab damage stacking effects. It's good with areas on the attack on zues on call. Take chaos boons and charon items and whatnot to boost backstab damage. You're now doing like 1700 dmg sequences if you get lucky on the 3rd attack's crit.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Yes! I think there is a high skill ceiling for Arthur. I need to get gud with it! 😊
@StefanaSotirova
@StefanaSotirova Год назад
Not sure why I didn’t watch this earlier, but it was really fun to hear your more recent thoughts on all of the aspects - thanks for doing this! And unlike many other tier lists I’ve seen, yours made me feel better about liking the weapons that I do! You’re so right that we all find different things fun in Hades, and it’s fascinating how people can enjoy the same aspects for a variety of reasons. I personally don’t care about speed or heat or vast amounts of damage, just about how engaged I am while using a weapon; the more options I have or the more deliberately I can do things, the more fun - so to me Hades spear (spin, attack, special in different combinations depending on the room), Zeus shield (controlling the blitz disc), Hestia rail (reloading and aiming on kbm), Lucifer rail (placing the hellfire and blowing it up) are some great weapons. Others I hardly ever use, even though they’re very very strong and much more reliable. Pretty weird preferences, but it is what it is!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
I like it! Variety is what makes this game great!
@MrMrTravman
@MrMrTravman Год назад
Your opinions on the weapons is exactly what I wanted to hear actually. Just now getting back into hades! Thanks brotha
@CheesyDale
@CheesyDale Год назад
I do agree that the slow charge up is a huge debuff especially in max forced overtime, but I really like Arthur insane damage, I usually time it so enemies spawn on the sword swings so they die quickly and I don't really mind the slow charge up it teaches you spatial awareness and when's the right time to strike instead of just rushing in blindly, it's a refreshing weapon for me since I usually do a quick run with Achilles spear or Zagreus fist plus the plume lol
@carlsmith4568
@carlsmith4568 Год назад
Nothing you said contradicts the video. It’s a fun aspect that isn’t quite A-tier
@Mojinr
@Mojinr Год назад
Just got this on the holiday sale and all the guides on the channel have helped me alot. That and finding out there is automatic dmg reduction in God mode.
@rook_net9821
@rook_net9821 Год назад
one thing i did with aspect of hera is the artemis and ares hunting blades duo boon - so you just los the blade rifts into the bow and they track on the enemy once they hit - that was my first winning build
@ValiantGoat
@ValiantGoat Год назад
I just recently started playing Hades and have been enjoying your older videos but never sure what is out of date or not. Thanks for doing an updated list. :)
@ryonisabastard
@ryonisabastard Год назад
Good balanced rating list! And you're making me reconsider some of the bow aspects
@ShearsOfAtropos
@ShearsOfAtropos Год назад
happy new year king i've been playing for over two years and didnt realize about the extra Beowulf dashes, gotta try that
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Yeah! You are in for a treat! Cheers! 😎
@cherrylexi444
@cherrylexi444 3 месяца назад
great list! as an artemis lover, putting her special on Aspect of Zeus Sheild’s special is soooo good! you just tearrrr thru enemies
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 месяца назад
Thanks! Yes, I think putting Artemis crit on anything can be super fun! :)
@kenseidawanderer
@kenseidawanderer 11 месяцев назад
I actually used the Achilles spear on my second successful escape, though funny enough, I used it as an attack-focused crit weapon with Artemis boons and Flurry/Triple Jab. Still not used to the cast playstyle, but I’ll try to make it work. Even without that in mind, Achilles aspect is fun to use, and I actually managed a faster time with it compared to my first successful escape with Malphon.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 11 месяцев назад
Right on! yes, the attack is indeed buffed as well! I just really like the boost for cast :)
@NeonGamer123
@NeonGamer123 Год назад
random thought, but loving the cult of lamb music in the background. Great video!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Thanks! I was obsessed with that soundtrack for a long time!
@sadhomie9294
@sadhomie9294 Год назад
I would definitely switch Chaos and Nemesis, getting the damage numbers high enough with Nemesis to make the danger worth it is very boon-dependent. However, I would put Demeter in S for its ability to pump out massive numbers with a fair few builds, especially because it can effectively merge the two playstyles of status curse builds and percentage based damage increases. The attack is great at building up status and the special can get to huge numbers. Personally, I haven't had a problem taking a lot of damage using the fists because most of my enemies are dead at that point, but that's just me.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Fair points!
@CptnCardboard
@CptnCardboard Год назад
Athena dash makes fists the best weapon in the game imo. No other weapon benefits more from it
@chadlaker962
@chadlaker962 Год назад
yo this vid is good 4me as a new player ,cant wait to unlock all these weapon aspects 🤯🤙
@kekeke6224
@kekeke6224 Год назад
very nice video! one thing got me puzzled, regarding the spear aspect of Guan Yu, why the spinning attack was not mentioned? It creates a projective similar to zeus shield special, but which also heals on hit. So I thought it is the strongest move of this particular aspect and probably the reason this spear got such harsh penalties. I am a noob in hades though, this is why it made me so interested how the spinny spear can do at higher heat levels
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
The spear spin takes so long to charge up it. it just ends up being risky especially at high heat with faster enemies. Some can use it effectively
@belladonnaRoot
@belladonnaRoot Год назад
I think you've got a slight bias against the shields. Which is fine. They tend to be a slower but safe playstyle. Which makes them beasts in the early game that others then need to catch up to. On my 2nd time through the game, I got through the final boss much much earlier than the game intends you to be able to with Chaos aspect; it just makes things so easy and safe when you don't have your mirror filled out or keepsakes to help. And is one of the few builds where Dio looks great, cuz stacks happen easy.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Fair point! I think I'm thinking about damage and dominance rather than consistency at low heat
@Dr.UldenWascht
@Dr.UldenWascht Год назад
Thank you for the video. And IMHO, truer words have never been spoken on the subject. To add to that, I feel like some of the low tier aspects (looking at Guan Yu in particular) could've been real joy with a bit of adjustment ... but alas. I mean the way Guan Yu slows you down in every way is probably punishment enough. But to limit _all_ health related items as well, it's just not that fun. It just feels like a missed opportunity. I'm sure there are brilliant mods out there tweaking these though. All in all, enlightening video.
@asth3tique
@asth3tique 5 месяцев назад
I actually just started playing this a month ago, I’m a casual and don’t usually get into the analysis part of games but after clearing it a couple times I realized the breadth of how deep this game goes. You by nature seem to be more of a zoner and that goes against my hybrid- “rush down “sensibilities lol😂 but I did feel like the spear was the best of both worlds. I’m definitely going to look into everything over the next few months. Thank you for making this and sharing your opinion
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 5 месяцев назад
Absolutely! Thanks for the kind words. I know I could speak a little faster for sure 😂
@dogs-game-too
@dogs-game-too Год назад
Just wanna say I beat Hades for the first time tonight after hearing you mention using Ares on the shield throw. The run was super scuffed to start but I pieced it together and won first time with the build. Now to beat the game not as a coward using some of these aspects lol
@kobarsos82
@kobarsos82 Год назад
ah yeah its one of the easiest ways to get the first wins in the game. I remember recommending the same to a friend.
@dogs-game-too
@dogs-game-too Год назад
@@kobarsos82 It's actually nuts. I did it again on my first heat and did a no-deaths run for only my 2nd time beating it. I almost beat Hades last night with a spear build, so hopefully I'll beat it with melee soon to feel like I really earned it lol
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Nice work! 😎
@dogs-game-too
@dogs-game-too Год назад
@@JawlessPaul thank you! 😁
@SabrinaEvenstar
@SabrinaEvenstar 4 месяца назад
It's crazy how I got out of hell twice with the zagreus sword and can't seem to do it with any other weapon lol Guess I gotta pracrice the other weapons moves
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 4 месяца назад
Yeah, they all have very different playstyles. Good luck!
@PurpleSytheMusic
@PurpleSytheMusic Год назад
My last build was an Eris build with Zeus on attack and special. Had his legendary and the thing that makes lighting bounce more. Got posiden on dash and a lot of his tier 2's. Got the 2 hammers being missle special and CLUSTER BOMB. So 5 ROCKETS, WITH ZEUS THUNDER, HIS LEGENDARY AND SEA STORM AS WELL. and a ton of other zeus/posiden boons. Got a couple things from hermes. That was my best run, ever Edit: I did that with knowing nothing about the Railgun btw. This was all luck. I'm newish to the game and had no idea of the power of Eris and the Cluster Missile and Zeus on it
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
That is such an incredible combination!
@kamilslup7743
@kamilslup7743 9 месяцев назад
Honestly i mostly use the bow to clear out a lot of weaker enemies like the walking urns or flying skulls Also explosive throw is a really good hammer upgrade for the spear, using that (or the rocket launcher on adamant rail) i got hades down to like 5% health (and still died)
@Fox99910
@Fox99910 Год назад
I think agree with the list pretty much all of it maybe just Arthur might fit In b but debatable. I used to really hate the bow when I first started playing and gravitated towards the shield because it seemed like the best way to stay safe. But as you said once you get the bow power shot down it's like playing a different game. Cheers great video! @JawlessPaul
@donutsrgood4491
@donutsrgood4491 Год назад
I have only beat hades on like a 24 heat run so I'm not as good as some other people but I think the Zeus shield should definitely be S Tier. Just based off so many people who completed the game on all heats use that weapon for it and if you get the Zeus Posdien Duo Boon with that shield boon everything knocks back especially if you have tidal dash and you can kill hades in like 30 seconds if you have enough lighting upgrades on Zeus
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
I definitely think Zeus shield is solid!
@foof6498
@foof6498 21 день назад
the aspect of arthur is my favorite weapon in hades and im very glad its in c tier
@liamcristello2591
@liamcristello2591 Год назад
Wild, I used Beowulf like twice, didn’t like it all, and never picked it up again. It felt like Hera with extra steps to me, but maybe I need to give it another try
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
It is a bit harder to use than Hera but the damage is fantastic
@Sheamu5
@Sheamu5 Год назад
Kinda back into the game, just completed all achievements but I haven't finished the prophecies and theme unlocks
@GoBlueHTB
@GoBlueHTB 10 месяцев назад
27:55 Once, I got Eres Rail with Zeus attack, then I took Poseidon special and dash, got Sea Storm, sold Poseidon special, got Artemis special, and had the Cluster Rockets combo.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 10 месяцев назад
That's an incredible combination. Truly busted :)
@looneymar9153
@looneymar9153 5 месяцев назад
Just got my first win with an aspect of Chiron bow 2 days ago, also have 2 more now with aspect of Hera bow and aspect of Achilles spear
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 5 месяцев назад
Right on! Those are some of my favorite weapons :)
@OmeganKryist
@OmeganKryist Месяц назад
Arthur is the only weapon I was able to just out slug hades with (just tank all the damage he dealt). Granted at low heat. Also required specific boons and hammers. Still though that was probably my favorite run.
@mattemonx4315
@mattemonx4315 Год назад
All the bows in S tier. You love to see it!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Haha yes! I can't put them anywhere else! 🤣
@DigitalAwakening
@DigitalAwakening Год назад
Been enjoying your Hades videos! I recently started playing and I am 100 hours into the game.Still on low heat so perhaps my opinions aren't really valid once you get higher. I haven't tried all the aspects yet. I would put Zag sword on B tier. I think the attack speed makes a difference when staggering enemies. Definitely better than Guan Yu. Would probably bump up Arthur, just owned everything on my run with it. I also like the Zag rail, would put it a tier higher. I think I would also put Talos up one. Really good at taking out enemies one by one, and gives the gloves the range they lack. With exception of Guan Yu, I really like the spears due to their speed and reach. I think I like them more than you do. Anyway, thanks for another interesting video!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Thanks for sharing your experience! :)
@Anteflop
@Anteflop Год назад
Great list. I thought it was interesting you mentioned Crush Shot for Beowulf and Trippy Shot for Hera - I always go for the reverse. Eris Zeus is definitely the king. Anyone who’s reading this and wants a fun watch - go find the colab between JP and Haelian. Cracks me up every time.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Yes! I love crush shot on Hera as well!
@brandonkruse6412
@brandonkruse6412 Год назад
This is great timing. Just got back into Hades last night with my wife. Put a ridiculous amount of hours on PC and doing a fresh save on Xbox.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Nice! Hope you two enjoy the game together!
@kidlink7200
@kidlink7200 Год назад
I think nemesis deserves to be higher up on the list, it can crank out some crazy damage.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
I agree! However I die more often with Nemesis too 😂
@Zackattack151
@Zackattack151 8 месяцев назад
I think chaos shield should be higher. I recently got a build where I had ares on special and Athena on attack with merciful end. So bull rush, into doom special, into bull rush merciful end proc and enemies would just melt. Add that to Impending doom and dire misfortune and you have an insane build that melts most things in the game.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 8 месяцев назад
Merciful end is incredible, but that applies to pretty much any weapon. Thanks for the comment!
@zaetayo
@zaetayo Год назад
Now I understand why I have been tearing up the heat levels with aspect of eris lol 😆
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
It's pretty strong!
@neganebulus5108
@neganebulus5108 Год назад
Even after roughly a hundred hours of gameplay I haven't realized u can use aspect of achilles as a cast weapon lol
@kristianpomida8259
@kristianpomida8259 Год назад
It's one of the most common way to go. Usually paired with hunting blades. That said i suck at Achilles spear even with hunting blades.
@Jaap-Relou
@Jaap-Relou 8 месяцев назад
How to easy dash upper? Dash attack is easy but I don't use the upper variant since I feel I need to do some claw grib hold on my controller... very uncomfortable. There need to be another way. Just getting into this gem of a game so thank you for this list. Still pushing for my first escape. Escape 33 got me almost there until I discovered there is a second fase/wind in the Hades fight 😅 That totally destroyed me. Just learned from this video how I can use my titan blood as well haha. Didn't knew what it was for. Same goes for the big nectar bottle, don't know the use for that either.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 8 месяцев назад
Some runs where I use dash upper I actually remap the buttons. It's pretty easy to do. It seems annoying but you are right, it's pretty tough to do it consistently. I'm glad the video was helpful!
@anonymoususer188
@anonymoususer188 Год назад
Firstly, I fully agree with the assertion that the bow is by far the strongest weapon in the game. My personal favorite (and very specific) build with it is Aspect of Chiron with the Daedalus hammers Relentless Volley (+4 shots to special) and Concentrated Volley (special deals +3 base damage for each consecutive hit to a foe), and Artemis's support fire and pressure points boons. Add on a powerful special boon and it can do a lot of damage very quickly. Of course, this requires two specific hammers, but even with only one of them it's still decent damage. My one problem with aspect of Eris on the rail is that it doesn't synergize with one of the other most broken hammers. Hazard bomb should never be underestimated. The damage buff to the already powerful special is massive, and it increases the radius of the explosion. Throw on a special buffing boon with a high percent damage increase like Poseidon or even better Aphrodite for some reason and it can wipe a massive amount of enemies out of existence in a single strike. It also does considerable damage to bosses and has a wide enough area of effect that it isn't hard to land a hit even considering how much some of them move around. The main downside is that if you get caught in the blast, you take some damage, which result in it not being great with Eris.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Agree! Thanks for sharing some of your favorite builds :)
@r3gret2079
@r3gret2079 Год назад
The random kitty cat tail 26:55 is best aspect by far. SSS tier. Edit: imagine having the delta chamber on Lucifer. Nuckin futs.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
There is a hammer that gives you infinite ammo on Lucifer. It's pretty great but you lose the damage ramping
@r3gret2079
@r3gret2079 Год назад
@@JawlessPaul ya, makes sense. What a wacky aspect. Exagryph itself is pretty wacky already.
@bolshebrik3660
@bolshebrik3660 Год назад
Yeah, the bows are busted. I've spent most of my time playing with them or the fists, or the aspect of chaos. Been really sleeping on the aspect of achilles, I'll have to try that!
@kobarsos82
@kobarsos82 Год назад
Its amazing try it possibly my favorite ! Takes a little to get used to but it slaps when you do ! I am also of the same opinion about bows and chaos.
@Glokta4
@Glokta4 Год назад
Happy to see my favorite, Zeus Aspect of the Chaos Shield, rated A.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
It's good!
@anonymoususer188
@anonymoususer188 Год назад
I'm personally not a fan of aspect of Zeus shield, but that's probably because the first time that I used it, I only had it at lvl 1, and I still hadn't figured out build synergy. I had Demeter's cast (which honestly isn't very good) and right before Meg, I visited Chaos. He had a really strong boon (I forget which one), but the curse was that you take damage every time you use a standard attack. Trying to fight Meg with no standard attack, the worst cast for that fight, and the aspect of Zeus shield which I really wasn't used to was rough. I took a lot of damage, and it crippled me too much to get much further in that attempt. Maybe now that I understand the game better and have it leveled up all the way, I should give it another chance, but I'm way more comfortable with the aspects of Chaos and Zagreus so I'll probably just stick with one of those two. Beowulf is also quite strong, but I hate how slow it is.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Fair! I think there is a higher skill ceiling on Zeus. You can output some crazy damage with it :)
@dalibormilasinovic4294
@dalibormilasinovic4294 Год назад
you seem to have 2 more keepsakes than im aware exist!? the harph and the one after. what are those and how did you get them? thanks!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
It's a mod for the PC. It's called Olympusextra on Nexusmods. It adds Apollo and Hestia
@TRM520
@TRM520 7 месяцев назад
Hestia has always been easy mode for me. Especially if I manage to get Explosive Fire, Ricochet Fire or even Piercing Fire on it early... rooms and bosses are cleared in seconds. Something about the "Chk-chk boom" that is so satisfying 🤓 I'll have to spend more time with the fully upgraded bow aspects and also that Achilles spear. Thanks for the video.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 7 месяцев назад
Yes! Hestia is a great weapon. I was able to do a damage free run with it a while back. Very good for staying safe!
@sansko_3816
@sansko_3816 Месяц назад
Arthur Sword is goated though it’s got to be A tier at least. On low heat it doesn’t have much point as most weapons are faster and can kill enemies quickly but on high heat the aura bubble is extremely useful since you can disable traps(like magma in asphodel) along with slowing down projectiles which often times are spammed when facing encounters with jury summons. Also if you build the sword around crits you can easily deal around 1,500 damage on the final hit of combo. Along with its range being much better then normal swords since it’s really difficult to defeat extreme measures 4 hades when you have to stand directly next to him. Plus the swing radius of the sword is insane you can easily hit 2-4 enemies in one swing. A TIER MINIMUM!
@sebastianviera9585
@sebastianviera9585 Год назад
Thanks for the video any chance to hace resume all the video on text wich are best aspect on each weapon and best boons combos??
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking. If you mean typing out everything that I say in the video, that would be like writing a blog about a video that I had made. I'd rather just have people watch the video! 😅
@sebastianviera9585
@sebastianviera9585 Год назад
@@JawlessPaul haha sorry I watched the video but for example : rama goes with zeus attack and poseidon special
@zagreus3347
@zagreus3347 Год назад
I am addicted to the claws
@BrillouinBoi
@BrillouinBoi Год назад
I could never get Lucifer to work for me. Sounds like I should go back and try again
@collectors_firm
@collectors_firm 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for this great video 🫡
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 6 месяцев назад
You are welcome! Thanks for the kind words!
@Galaka100
@Galaka100 11 месяцев назад
Interesting about twin shot being so good. I understand it removes your range which is a bit of the point about the bow.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 11 месяцев назад
It removes about a quarter of the range or so. You still have a lot of range. Probably about the same as the spear thrust
@gaminggeckos4388
@gaminggeckos4388 Год назад
Love putting Thunder Flourish on Lucifer. It makes it automatically detonate on contact with an enemy!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Agreed! It's nice to see the bombs explode themselves :)
@paolobonsignore2813
@paolobonsignore2813 7 месяцев назад
I agree with you in every aspect. However, based in my personal experience I'd put Zagreus Spear in S tier because of its versatility and the bonuses damage and range works for me. With Vicious Skewer (so i get rid of spin attack) and flurry jab/triple jab I feel like I can obliterate anything in screen with special, retrieve, dash attack plus holding attack button
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 7 месяцев назад
That's the spear for you. The spear is a really solid weapon regardless of the bonuses, especially if you find flurry jab.
@paolobonsignore2813
@paolobonsignore2813 7 месяцев назад
@@JawlessPaul but I tried achilles´spear as you said and indeed, it´s a S tier and better than the Zagreus one
@sage7172
@sage7172 Год назад
huh, I could not clear 32 heat spear until I tried Guan-Yu. First attempt clear.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
That's awesome! I've tried that a few times and been so frustrated that I gave up 😂
@sage7172
@sage7172 Год назад
@@JawlessPaul I must've gotten lucky :P great video!
@iSearchYoutube
@iSearchYoutube Год назад
Man I dunno I just adore Arthur. It is slow as a turtoise, but the meaty swings, the synergise with Aprhodite's weak and huge persenrage boosts, I feel like I can consistently steamroll early game and just bathe in HP for the lategame. Nemesis supposedly has similar meaty swings with the crits but I feel like I am constantly on death's door with how it wants to play
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Gotcha! Yeah a lot of people love Arthur! I'm just strange I guess 😂
@ellagage1256
@ellagage1256 Год назад
Surprised Zag Sword is so low, it's what I've gotten most of my successful high heat sword runs on. It makes Hermes speed boost boons feel so much more impactful and since he's the one Olympian you're guaranteed to run into, it's not hard to find those core boons. It does seem pretty boring compared to the other swords though
@ryankoptis9728
@ryankoptis9728 Год назад
I've been toying with Zag sword a lot lately. I like Drunken strike, Passion Dash, Deadly Flourish, and Curse of Vengeance. Then try to get as many duos as possible, they all play off each other really well
@eldorado9497
@eldorado9497 Год назад
Aspect of Zag deserved a better place in this tier list for sure. with Herme's keepsake and his high tier boons you can quite feel the swiftness on your move/attack speed.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
The weapon is sub-par compared to the other weapons to start with, and then all you get is 15% bonus attack speed and move speed. Just doesn't give a whole lot. You should probably use the dash attack anyway, which isn't affected by attack speed.
@ellagage1256
@ellagage1256 Год назад
@@JawlessPaul That's fair, it's definitely one of the most underwhelming of the weapon aspects. The movement speed boost is really nice with stuff like Hyper Sprint, but compared to innate crit damage, extra cast damage and the ability to disable traps... It just feels kind of meh in comparison
@andreeam.1888
@andreeam.1888 Год назад
Lucifer in A tier is the one that hurts For me it's at best a C tier. Like you said, it should be in it's own league, definitely not a rail. Glad to see Achilles's Spear in S tier. It is insanely easy to get a broken build on it and it's so much fun. People don't give it enough credit.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Haha, I've gotten some pretty amazing lucy runs lately. Super soaker and tazer runs are too fun!
@devanduraipragash6106
@devanduraipragash6106 Год назад
Aspect of talos + Posiedon special is basically playing ping pong with your foes , highly recommend it if you are looking for a couple laughs
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
I love that build! So much fun to send everything flying!
@devanduraipragash6106
@devanduraipragash6106 Год назад
I guess it is also quite tactical You reel enemies in and deal damage and they go flying before they can deal damage But I just saw the goofy Ness potential
@expat8460
@expat8460 11 месяцев назад
Just started playing last week, and my favorite is Zeus shield.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 11 месяцев назад
Cheers! That's one of my favorites too!
@expat8460
@expat8460 11 месяцев назад
@@JawlessPaul I hope you will do Hades 2 content in the future.
@Farpafraf
@Farpafraf Год назад
wait was aspect of chaos nerfed? Havent played in a long time
@ryanwalker1169
@ryanwalker1169 Год назад
Took me 33 tries to beat Hade the first time. Did it with Zeus shield w/ Zeus boons. As a terrible dodger, it works for me.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Very nice! The zeus shield is incredible!
@fozzymandias
@fozzymandias Год назад
i guess im more surprised that you had achilles spear in the bottom half of s tier instead of the top half. you seem to like it a lot , i guess just shows you how many great weapons there are
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Haha, true! It could easily be at the top of S tier I think. SO much damage
@odynzeyez6259
@odynzeyez6259 Год назад
What's the best weapon to focus on first?
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
They are all great. I think Bow has a lot of amazing options and once you figure out the rythm of it, it's one of the strongest weapon, perhaps just behind the rail.
@exyzt9877
@exyzt9877 Год назад
as a Varatha main, I'll tell you right now, Spear Spin + Dash, absolutely wrecks. Just make sure you get some distance in BEFORE you charge it, and you'll be fine.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
There are those who have mastered it for sure! It is very punishing to have it interrupted though!
@highoctanesynx7950
@highoctanesynx7950 Год назад
Mate i just love the bow of hera Poseidon flurry shot attack + Artemis cast is just crazy Or you can just be crazy yourself and get flury twin shots Poseidon + Artemis cast with hermes legendary boon that allow you to get back casts immediately.........now imagine mirage shot in this madness Which even without it i literally cornered hades in second phase with this build 🤣, it was the best run ever for me
@husseinakhras8357
@husseinakhras8357 3 дня назад
it also works well with dionysis cast
@vojinvmilojkovic7622
@vojinvmilojkovic7622 Год назад
Amazing video thanks Paul :) a reason to install Hades again ♥ my favorite and go-to is always chiron bow
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
A super solid bow! 😎
@vojinvmilojkovic7622
@vojinvmilojkovic7622 Год назад
@@JawlessPaul once again thank you for the video.
@TunaBagels
@TunaBagels Год назад
9:30 Bit of a noobie, but my second clear was with this weapon! I got an insane build (fast charge hammer, big AoE hammer, attack speed from Hermes, Athena boon on attack) and by the time I made it to Styx I could just spam the charge attack whenever I had a spare second and it would hit the whole room with a big ol' boop. Tons of fun, and was great VS last boss as well for cleaing out grabby pottery. (My build was pretty borked at that point so I think any weapon would have worked, but still!)
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
It can happen! I'm glad you had a good run with it. Maybe it's just me who struggles with spin builds! 🤣
@kokioen
@kokioen Год назад
Magnetic cutter might not be the best, but dammit, the physics shenanigans are just satisfying
@ellagage1256
@ellagage1256 Год назад
Am I the only one who does a Scorpion impression when using magnetic cutter?
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Definitely!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Oh definitely not 😂
@wholemeal3001
@wholemeal3001 Год назад
Hell yeah
@park14tv
@park14tv Год назад
Agree with all this except.... Your guan Yu position sea storm build was one of your best builds ever (A TIER). And you can recover health by throwing the spinning charge shot.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Guan yu is such a struggle 😂
@tiagoj8020
@tiagoj8020 Год назад
Does the Achilles spear do 150% cast damage too?
@ach31337
@ach31337 Год назад
Yup
@SvenicusGermainus
@SvenicusGermainus Год назад
Sword - Zagreus aspect is actually my favorite aspect for this weapon. I find the extra movement and attack speed to be really nice especially when combined with Hermes. I agree with Arthur's aspect. I like the benefits it gives but it's just too slow for my liking. Spear - You didn't even mention the sweeping attack of the last spear. The fact that it moves away from you and heals you when it does damage is amazing. Yes the downsides suck but that sweeping attack makes up for it in my opinion. In 100 runs I haven't touched Achilles spear but I'm have to give it a try next time I use it. Shield - I agree with you on the shields. Beowulf's aspect being a cast Shield makes it every better and being able to loud all your blood into it before bullrushing is a lot of fun. Feels like you are slapping a claymore to the front and running at your enemies lol. Bow - Yeah all the Bows are amazing. I don't know which one is my favorite because they are all so much fun to use. Definitely the right choice in putting them all at S tier lol. Claws - I find myself being much more aggressive with the claws than the other weapons. I also usually end up going with a Special build so those two weapons are my favorites of the group. Rail - I would have put Hestia at C tier personally. The extra damage from reload just isn't that good or interesting in my opinion. It's not bad but it slows everything down so much. I'm trying to get used to Lucifer because it seems cool but it's such a change that it's taking some work lol.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Try Hestia with the butterfly and see how many rooms you can go hitless on. It's pretty great for that!
@roccotopliff4843
@roccotopliff4843 Год назад
@@JawlessPaul super sick with butterfly
@bopple4634
@bopple4634 6 месяцев назад
Hestia Rail is one of the easiest weapons to crank up the heat. One of the best weapons for high-heat no-hit runs, even. I find it almost as good as Eris Rail. The major problem of Hestia Rail is not power, but boredom.
@TeHPHoBoS999
@TeHPHoBoS999 Год назад
I feel like this tier list really needs an S+ tier, or for most things to be one tier down. The highest tier should be reserved for weapons that break the power band. For example, all the bows are great, but Rama straight up beats both Chiron and Zagreus at their own game. Zagreus has good attack and Chiron has top tier special, but Rama has the best of both worlds and can make use of literally any set of boons in the game.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Fair
@The1506andy
@The1506andy Год назад
Can we get a video where you use that stier rail and you show us the whole screen wiping
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Here you go! I get cluster bombs at around 14 minutes! Enjoy! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oUK9rgMypCY.html
@The1506andy
@The1506andy Год назад
@@JawlessPaul have you used the same game save for 3 years
@knate44
@knate44 Год назад
Arthur missing B tier is sadness. Is it slow? Yes, but IMHO the defensive abilities make up for it enough to give it a variety of builds with that in mind. Crits are spicy, backstabs are great, you can go all in on AOE fields, and it is a solid go to for players trying learn specific fights (like pushing for EM 3 for the first time as an example) given the extra tankiness and that it forces you to go slower than you might be inclined. It’s not the best sword aspect by a long shot, but compared to Zag spear and Zag Rail I think it is no contest.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
My thoughts on Arthur are definitely not in the majority. Many really like the aspect.
@Kusanagi2k
@Kusanagi2k Год назад
Is there any "boon to weapon to attack" tier list?
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Hmmm, there would be a lot of combinations...
@Kevfactor
@Kevfactor Год назад
I just have been playing non stop for the past two week And now doing 20ish heat. think it’s a mistake to always go for the most op weapon. I did that in souls games and realized it took the struggle out of the game. Idk past the Zag upgrades honestly I a lot of stuff is too much, especially that bow seeker and the reload gun. Playing that way all the time would make me feel too safe on a run. I thankfully learned to stop using double dash and death defiance all the time too. In some ways the alternatives are better in ways though so may go back to the others hehe
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
You can always up that heat if you want to make it more challenging! Try for 40! 😁
@Kevfactor
@Kevfactor Год назад
@@JawlessPaul yeah true lol. Not there yet. I just got to rank 2 of the hades fight and realized how bad I am hehe😀
@Panda-vi2ei
@Panda-vi2ei Год назад
Is it cult of the lamb music in the background?
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
It is! 😉
@tommygtXD
@tommygtXD Год назад
The debuff on Talos fists is applied by the special, not the pull (which I believe can hit multiple people) so applied to lots of enemies and then smash them Aphrodite cast or just any attack boon with aoe (zeus, long kunckle etc)
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Good strategy!
@codymacdermid8225
@codymacdermid8225 Год назад
The Zag Bow is easily the best weapon in the game. Combine it with Flurry Shot and you just broke the game. I thought you were a tad hard on the Zag Shield. There's an argument to be made that it should be the starting weapon - for it really teaches you how to Dash Strike. Excellent list. Now rank the common enemies lol.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Haha, common enemies 🤭
@codymacdermid8225
@codymacdermid8225 Год назад
@@JawlessPaul Hellenistic fodder?
@nachobjar5545
@nachobjar5545 6 месяцев назад
Zagreus fist + hermes amulet ends up being just unfair, dodge more than a half of hits its crazy
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 6 месяцев назад
Yes! It's actually a decent strategy for beating 32 heat for the first time
@kairoSan13
@kairoSan13 Год назад
for me, the weapon that I am more likely to lose on the first round is the bow, how is it that is S tier? I even go with 3 restoration lives and I still lose
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
It takes a while to get the timing down for sure!
@tiagoj8020
@tiagoj8020 Год назад
Fair
@k0dzuk3nn
@k0dzuk3nn Год назад
the hades aspect in B baffled me, I use it all the time and find it very easy to manage - you just have to learn how to master it, but to each their own i guess
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
I definitely can see how some people like it, I just generally do worse with the spins and I find the spin to be a bit of a noob trap. However, it's a high skill ceiling ability that can be used to great effect in the hands of a good player, which you must be! :)
@Adam4ge
@Adam4ge Год назад
Up front I'm halfway through your vid. Enjoying it. However I do feel this breakdown is good for where you are in terms of progression. Some weapons are better over others earlier on. Cast trigger weapons early game are crap vs anything else. (Once cast bonus on mirror is maxed its much better then) Shield early on was so strong for me. Late game it's not as efficient as other builds.(some variants much easier to pull off even late game- goes for anything to be fair. Ones Playstyle is also a big factor.) Range weapons on controller for me was so much harder to get use to. It's awkward. Would like to hear your thoughts on weapons based on zag mirror progression My 2 cents :) love this game. Hope Hades 2 is just as good. Perhaps co op.. ?
@Adam4ge
@Adam4ge Год назад
Reflecting now. It's a pretty hard breakdown to do. And that's a good thing. Game is pretty well balanced. Many builds. Some skills I find are staples for many builds. Like Athenas dash for eg
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
How high up are the cast stones though? They are pretty low. I feel like people can unlock them pretty early, like... Within the first 2 to 3 hours of play? I think most people ignore cast for too long, which is why I kind of overemphasize them. Cheers!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Agreed! It's very subjective
@Adam4ge
@Adam4ge Год назад
@@JawlessPaul Agreed. Even I left it for long. I think I had a few builds in mind for context that I didn't reference lol. Loading up max casts on bow with dionysus cast. Super fun
@QuackersMcCrackers
@QuackersMcCrackers Год назад
14:17: I see you've been playing a fair bit of Dead Cells :D
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Год назад
Haha, I actually haven't played much dead cells at all! 😅
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