How Hades Was Made and Why its Early Concept Didn’t Work

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This Hades documentary details the development of the indie game Hades and goes behind the scenes of its creation. Discover how Supergiant Games, the creators of Bastion, Transistor and Pyre, prioritized a transparent and inclusive development process before they even had the idea for their first roguelike dungeon-crawler. The documentary also explores all the design decisions that Supergiant Games made and why Theseus was originally going to be the protagonist instead of Zagreus.
It also takes a close look at the inspirations for the ink art style and why the team choose to introduce more diversity among the Olympian characters. Implementing a cohesive narrative within the roguelike genre also presented lots of challenges that the studio found clever solutions for. Furthermore, it explores how the developers used Early Access to create the best possible version of Hades.
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@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

What indie game would you like to see me cover next? Leave a suggestion in the comments below! Also, if you enjoyed the video, please consider subscribing to stay up to date on future “How Games Were Made” episodes. Leaving a like and sharing the video also helps out! Support me on Patreon and get exclusive content like Q&A sessions, ad-free content, access to my Discord server and more: www.patreon.com/ThatGuyGlen

@jaysanj152 2 года назад

Touhou Project Please...It's literally almost just as old as the Internet itself,1996 The Sheer fact that ZUN developed such franchise (and Popularized the Bullet Hell Genre along the way) all on his own since the PC98 era all the way until now (18 main line games) with no one to talk behind his back on what to do and change and it's considered one of the most widely influential Japanese indie game franchise of all time,No seriously he got an actual Guinness world record of this and yet ZUN treats is a simple hobby because he's not really expecting any profit out of it while also letting his huge community have fun with it as they produce Countless Fan Games,Offical Manga,Phenominal Soundtracks and everything is nothing but pure respect and that deserves a Documentary of its own. It's sad how underrated it is OUTSIDE of Japan...and To think,the franchise is born purely out of an simple idea from a single beer is amazing af and also,the Whole Bullet Hell Genre wouldn't even be a thing if it weren't him as he's one of the progenitors of that Genre.

@nickochioneantony9288 2 года назад

Spiritfarer or Project Wingman or This War of Mine (if you consider any of these as Indie Game). considering the topic is uncovered by you, it would be best to stick to any indie with most disclosure in their game development... I think you are uniquely capable to dissect all the interesting side stories.

@burned7033 2 года назад

Omori

@jeremygoh 2 года назад

Omori

@ClownCollegeGrad 2 года назад

I’d love to see an episode on A Hat In Time

@philippefabre4927 2 года назад

So that's why Theseus is so salty : he got out-MCed by Zag !

@vizthex 2 года назад

lmao, yup

@Cracker_Smacker Год назад

Time to pour more salt into that wound

@arush6778 Год назад

He killed me a lot for that

@deusexvesania1702 Год назад

"Asterius. Other guy."

@DizzieXD Год назад

after knew that backstory, i'll enjoy punching him in the next run

@mrrd4444 Год назад

My favourite part of this deep dive is how you were able to mention "They wanted the characters NAKED AND HOT" but with the amount of depth and nuance they actually reasoned it out for the story

@ThatGuyGlen Год назад

Haha it's fascinating stuff! I could've gone even more in depth, but there's lots of other interesting development facts to be told :D

@mrrd4444 Год назад

@@ThatGuyGlen I watched the original talk with BAFTA, it was so fun! Jen Zee provided some lovely nude initial drawings, and I have a sneaking suspicion they had to draw underwear on top of existing nude drawings of the original Theseus concepts before releasing them to Kotaku 😂

@ThatGuyGlen Год назад

Haha that might very well be possible! At the very least they have an r-rated concept art folder hidden away at the studio :P

@joaogomes9405 Год назад

But they still put Aphrodite in there, so you got a little taste. Just picture everyone like Aphrodite

@KDD0063 Год назад

@@joaogomes9405 Too bad Aphrodite isn't even attractively drawn, it is clear the artist was better at drawing men than women.

@soulshardcorebalestor9195 2 года назад

The fact that they REMADE their entire engine in native c boggles my mind. That level of dedication, let alone knowledge is unheard of these days

@seudonimopendiente Год назад

What is native c? Isn't it like the exclusive language of the processor? How does that make it easier to port?

@scotwilcox1771 Год назад

C is a programming language that was first developed in the 1980s. It's very bare bones and low level compared to modern languages like C# or JavaScript. C# and JavaScript do a lot of work for you, but include a lot of bells and whistles you may not necessarily need. This is called a "runtime", because it does so much work for you. Your code is embedded in this larger context. C has an extremely minimal runtime that basically just wraps common functions of your operating system. It adds essentially no performance overhead at all, which is why it's called "native". Your code is running directly on your operating system itself. It's very hard to beat the performance of C, just because it does exactly what you tell it to do and nothing else. The trade-off is that you have to build everything yourself from scratch, without the guardrails that come with higher level languages. You have to know what you're doing when it comes to C, and it's really easy to screw up and introduce memory problems or security issues. Because C has been around for over 40 years, every system under the sun has a way to build and run C, which makes porting easy.

@SqueakyNeb Год назад

@@seudonimopendiente No. Still quite distant from the processor in some ways. C isn't necessarily easy to port, but (which they came from) C# is basically impossible to port to platforms with no C# runtime.

@DaGlitchMaster 2 дня назад

@@seudonimopendiente That confused me too and I'm a programmer. The way he wrote it made it sound like "Native C" was it's own thing. It's just called "C". And to answer your question you can get a lot more performance with C than with C#, however it also introduces other problems most notably memory leaks and more opportunities to make mistakes.

@syntext 2 года назад

Glen: "This game could not exist without Gen Z" Me: "Yeah that makes sense, an arcade style rogue like is almost like a complete circle back to millenial- oh wait, he's saying a name..."

@vizthex 2 года назад

lmao, same

@kennym249 Год назад

Doesn't make sense. Gen z does't like to read

@astrocake584 Год назад

@@kennym249 Hence the narration.

@flamingbanana5831 Год назад

@@kennym249 we do??

@LavaSaver Год назад

@@kennym249 Gen Z is constantly on the internet, they never really *stop* reading.

@moogamooga2100 2 года назад

You look at Hades and you think "teams and teams of countless individuals". And then you show how much creative genius comes from only a couple dozen people. I loved watching this, Glen. Thank you! :)

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

My pleasure! Glad to hear you liked it :D

@ArariaKAgelessTraveller Год назад

throwing more manpower into a game development makes it more expensive and actually worse

@phoenixflamegames1 Год назад

@@ArariaKAgelessTraveller Depends. If you have a set release date, a bigger team is better.

@Realisticallyliteral Год назад

It's like when you find out that Darren Korb: -Voices Zagreus -Voices Skelly -Voices Orpheus singing voice -Made like all the damn music in the game

@sealevel5961 Год назад

@@ArariaKAgelessTraveller Not really. The issue is corporate profit incentives and an increase in risk. AAA Studios are not as flexible as smaller teams, and they're not as willing to take risks. It's not as simple as more people = bad game.

@Jake28 2 года назад

I really like how you change your editing style based on the style of the game you're covering, and it always looks great!

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Thanks, glad to hear you like the editing style! Most of the work goes into that part of the process so it’s nice to hear when people appreciate it :D

@annaphorra 2 года назад

@@ThatGuyGlen it's super cool! i love it a lot!

@naufalmEZa Год назад

Made each videos feel even more special, thank you, truly

@KouK973 7 месяцев назад

Awesome work !

@federicosavorani6320 2 года назад

I study ancient Greek literature, and one concept always at the center of debate is that of καλοζ και αγαθοζ, or "beautiful and virtuous". Basically, in ancient Greece, it was common to describe someone virtuous as beautiful, and someone with unpleasant characteristics (such as being of a lower political status, lol) as ugly. So yeah, the gods and heroes were beautiful because thy were gods and heroes, and that was portrayed perfectly in Hades. Also, there is an event where Dyonisus, for a joke, tells Zagreus to convince Orpheus that the two gods are the same, thus providing an explanation on the confusion in literature between the two gods.

@Guille-mz7xf Год назад

Orpheus even writes a song you can hear later in the game. It's the stupid little details that make this game so good

@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 Год назад

the person in charge of adding diversity to the greek gods was called jen zee. perfection

@vystaz Год назад

my fucking sides, holy shit

@smleyd172 Год назад

P E R F E C T I O N

@danke1150 Год назад

"Wants to honor the source material as much as possible"

@smleyd172 Год назад

@@danke1150 and they did while adding the diversity they are that good

@danke1150 Год назад

@@smleyd172 That's not honoring the source material.

@Kennedy00Louis 2 года назад

Imo, Supergiant made their Magnum Opus with Hades, I feel like now the team has Hades as a sort of goal to the level of greatness they want their games to be, and they learned so much while making it that whenever they decide to make their next game it's gonna be equally ambitious and gorgeous.

@bucketgeared7639 Год назад

I feel like its hard to call any of their games their best, but I'd half agree. Either Hades or Bastion for me, I have fond memories of the latter.

@paulunga Год назад

Yep, Pyre was definitely their best game. Wait, you said something else? But my opinion is fact, not yours. D:

@Kennedy00Louis Год назад

Didn't get to play Pyre yet, but I'll do it eventually. Tho I'd like to point out that a "Magnum Opus" doesn't mean "best creation", it is the most important work in the career of an artist. Which game is their best game is another topic, all of them are masterpieces.

@BenJaded Год назад

... as we have now seen with Hades II :))

@davimelo9181 Год назад

Equally indeed lol

@ericcataldi4869 2 года назад

This game should have won game of the year in 2020, but alas it was tough competition. I could not imagine the game featuring Theseus for the whole thing, makes sense they couldn't get it to work. Good video as always my man, keep up the good work.

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Thank you, will do!

@randomguyontheinternet7940 2 года назад

This and Noita were definetly my favorite games from 2020

@Myuunium 2 года назад

@@randomguyontheinternet7940 Hades and especially Noita have both brought me so much joy, I'm glad I got introduced to the roguelikte [sic] genre through those

@teratoma. 2 года назад

doom eternal shouldve won

@akshaydalvi1534 2 года назад

Hades won the BAFTA for best game though

@linkingheartsmusic Год назад

"Their next project will be looked at closely with great anticipation..." HADES 2 BABY LET'S GOOOOO!!

@darkmirror21 Год назад

Honestly, I think the fact that Hades is also a rogue-like made it much easier to replay it every time there's a new update so it didn't really got old which is why early access worked so well.

@SuperDestroyerFox 6 месяцев назад

Talk would be much higher for longer due to how some new boons and other content are randomly got so people,e would have to do multiple runs to see all of it. Plus even if it doesn’t have save files yet a rouguelike is still fun when there is a fresh file unlike a game that goes from level 1 to 2 to 3 etc

@zrixie7695 2 года назад

This information makes the Theseus and Asterius boss fight so much better.

@JoaoPedro-br3pl Год назад

I hope Supergiant can manage the success of Hades and the big expectations for the second game to make something even greater than Hades 1. I cannot wait to dive into Melinoe's story and be a part of the community development process for Hades 2.

@titan6637 9 дней назад

@trax72 8 дней назад

Whenever you die in Hades, you probably zigged when you should have Zagged.

@amittoren2448 2 года назад

Shout-out to the engineers who probably worked tirelessly to rewrite that engine. That shit is hard work.

@seudonimopendiente Год назад

whats is native c?

@omgwat 7 дней назад

@@seudonimopendiente just a heads up that this video is incorrect and the game is made in C++, not C. Additionally it's built on top of a framework called The Forge, which is a cross-platform toolset that allows developers to deploy games to multiple platforms. This is a _very_ basic explanation, but I'll give it a shot. C is low-level language that gives you direct access to system internals, such as CPU instructions and memory access. Almost all machines and devices you use are running on top of software written in C. It's basically ancient at this point (over 50+ years old) and is the foundation of all software. In the 1980s a newer language called C++ was introduced on top of C with the goal to improve on some of C's limitations without sacrificing its performance and accessibility characteristics. C++ is the primary language used today for a majority of video games.

@justintime402 2 года назад

I was told by some co workers to try this game a few weeks ago. I was absolutely amazed with the amount of dialog and how well the game seems to understand what you've done. Hell, zagreus has even said shit after death that I said moments before lol. Seeing now how this game was developed makes me appreciate it even more.

@Julian-zr8df Год назад

Was it when he said: "i really hate that hydra"?

@rstuio 2 года назад

Crosscode just recently finished everything it wanted to do in almost 10 years, and being crowdfunded and supported by fans I'm sure it counts as an indie game!

@electrum5579 2 года назад

I was thinking of suggesting this! Crosscode yes, underrated game

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Thanks for the suggestion, I put it on my list!

@Favmir 2 года назад

Hell yeah!

@joaogomes9405 Год назад

Genuinely insane how the same guys behind Lords of the Fallen and The Surge could release something so amazing as CrossCode

@justyoureverydaycasualship146 Год назад

Honestly, I’ve been so afraid to play a rogue like. I didn’t know Hades was one till I downloaded it, but I have to say, this is the perfect one for me. It’s interesting every time. And although dying was frustrating at first, once I realized it wasn’t impeding the story and that you were meant to die a lot, I started to have more fun with my runs. Hades might be becoming one of my favorite games if I’m honest

@thegothaunt 2 года назад

One of your best ones yet! Hades was such a thrilling game to follow through early access and the art style is just out of this world. I couldn't wait to share this video with my friends!~

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Thank you very much, glad to hear you enjoyed it! I only started playing it when it was out on Switch and I was immediately blown away. Such craftsmanship. And thanks for sharing it, always appreciate that :D

@rodneyabrett 2 года назад

I've run into Greg Kasavin at various game developer events here in San Francisco a decade or so ago when Transitor was just released. Really cool guy. I also remember talking with him about his time at Gamespot in the early years as a journalist and he was always very knowledgeable about what makes a game good on a granular level. Not surprising he eventually pivoted to working as a game developer. It's hard to explain, but Supergiant games(especially Transitor) really capture the Bay Area/SF vibe. Maybe it's the music or the look of them. Doublefine also has this. Sort of a laid back humorous vibe, but still challenging.

@Rubberman202 2 года назад

Man, hearing about the development just makes me appreciate this game so much more. Like, I was already impressed by what was already in the game, but knowing the full story just makes it all feel so much better!

@kreamsodapop 2 года назад

Your documentaries never cease to entertain glen keep it up

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Glad to hear you like them and will do!

@epti3539 2 года назад

I have so much love for this studio. Their passion for their games shows in every choice they make. I feel overjoyed when I see their successes since I can nearly feel how much they love their work.

@joeyfromschool Год назад

this game is such a masterpiece of game design, “perfect” is a big word but i’ve never seen any game get as close to it as Hades has

@Nubzly Год назад

Commenting a year later, Hades 2 trialer at the Game awards was pretty hyped. Glad to see that such a hard working studio gets to continue their work on such a well loved IP!

@rib_rob_personal 2 года назад

Good video Glen! It's kind of reassuring that even games with critical acclaim undergo massive writing changes. Currently writing a story for a project and we decided to change course. I know it's part of the process, but it can feel daunting sometimes. Been meaning to leave comments on your other videos, just keep forgetting lol.

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Thanks, Rob! Yeah, I was very surprised to read about all the Theseus stuff and how it was titled Minos in the beginning. They definitely went through some struggles and changes. I have massive respect for writers since it's something I really struggle with myself :P And no worries, I'm just happy to know you're still enjoying the videos!

@capsey_ 2 года назад

Dude, your content is masterpiece! Can't imagine the amount of effort put into it! You're amazing

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Much appreciated! A lot of effort goes into every single video, but I love making them!

@morningsareforcoffeeandcon1946 2 года назад

Been following Supergiant games since Bastion and i am so excited for their future releases ❤️💕

@andreeam.1888 Год назад

I feel like every game studio should have this kind of relationship with the community and develop the games together, as a whole. Very insightful video!

@GarthTheMighty Год назад

2:08 And that’s a question I had answered, now that the sequel is coming out.

@tfGalvatron1 2 года назад

It's kind of incredible how well they were able to execute on what they wanted it to be.

@faelreklaw8837 2 года назад

It would be interesting to cover Another Metroid returns 2. The guy made ten years to develop it. He made an amazing job better than official Nintendo releases so much that many people see it as almost canon. Plus he was hired as a level designer to Ori and the will of wisps which as we know is one of the best Metroidvanias out there. His story is truly an interesting one

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

It's on my list ;) Probably not going to happen anytime soon since I've got some other videos in the works first, but yes, one day it will happen!

@l.n.3372 2 года назад

My sister and I just started playing Hades last month. It's an amazing game and I never knew how much went into the development process. Thank you for explaining the dev process here. I've seen a few of your videos before but I wanted to comment because your editing is superb quality. The fact that you matched the game text styles only proves that you dedicated so much time and effort into every video. Congratulations on the amazing result!

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

My pleasure and thank you very much for the kind words! It's always a fun process to match the style of the game so I'm glad people seem to like it :D

@alekeropkin6976 2 года назад

Honestly man, you deserve more credit. I love every video you make, and the quality of your content deserves a million subscriber audience at least. I know you’ll get there one day, so keep up the great work!

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Thanks for the kind words, really appreciate it! And will do, next video is in the works!

@Vampireangel1011 Год назад

SuperGiants did an epic job with Hades and their hard work shows so much. Hades has become my all time favorite game, because of the love and effort they put into it. The care they put into making Hades as successful as it is, and making it as appealing to a wide range of people shows how much their efforts turned out. I cannot wait to see what they do for Hades 2 and how both story plots merge together to create a bigger world than before.

@MoonchildOfDarkness Год назад

Can't wait for Hades II, I am gonna get the early access and help out as much as possible. The love, dedication and hard work is visible in every aspect of Hades, and I can't wait to help Supergiant with the second game. Knowing how much these people care about making the game the best it can be, while understanding that player feedback and ideas are a crucial part of that - I sincerely want to chip in.

@toriko2075 Год назад

Years ago, I used to play a little game on IOS called "Hoplite". I find there are many similitudes between the 2 games: - Set in ancient mythological times - The spear build in Hades is a bit like the moves you can do in Hoplite. You can throw the spear, recall it etc. - Last, but not least, you can get favors from gods in both games : more health, new powers etc.

@TabbyVee Год назад

Okay the fact that the art director of this very diverse and progressive game is named "Jen Zee" *cough cough Gen Z* is absolutely hilarious and i love it

@NJAsmodeus1 Год назад

Algorithm brought me to this video, and I raced to the comments convinced this had to have been pointed out. It was a real mockumentary moment. Excited for Hades 2 and interested in how early access will loon

@danke1150 Год назад

Diversifying other peoples culture, stunning and brave.

@mmyehokayyy2 Год назад

@@danke1150 ignorant. Like your cap.

@OccultEclipse Год назад

@@danke1150 Greeks and Hellenic pagans aren’t bothered, so maybe stop getting offended on behalf of a culture/religion you have no real understanding of.

@danke1150 Год назад

@@OccultEclipse Haha, are you serious? The Greeks and Pagans I know are some of the most racist people I've met, more so than me. I don't know why you think Greeks would appreciate having their Gods and cultural icons portrayed as Africans.

@ruinedsky4208 2 года назад

great video! i think hades is a roguelite, not roguelike though. very subtle but important difference. in hades the story progresses every time you die and you take certain things with you after each run to improve upon your next, which is the definition of roguelite. in roguelike games you start from 0 every single time you die.

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Thank you!

@leonpaelinck 2 года назад

The permanent upgrades make little difference though.

@eisgnom7383 Год назад

No it's wether or not you use tiles to move and other such things. For example Pokemon mystery dungeon is more akin to rogue than most things that would fall under your definition of rogue-like.

@Gaze73 Год назад

Today almost every roguelike is a roguelite, no? People don't want 0 rewards for their runs. Even in Isaac you unlock new items which make your runs easier.

@doommaker4000 Год назад

@@Gaze73 Almost. I'm not exactly 100% on top of the genre, but pretty sure Noita is an actual roguelike

@Wraiven22 Год назад

It just really bums me out that Hades will never get more content. What separates the good rogue lites from the great ones is the post-launch support. I would have happily paid more money for DLC from Supergiant. It’s my fave genre of game and I really think the game could’ve printed money for them if they had made more content after launch.

@ninab.4540 Год назад

We got a sequel!

@TheZahirNT2 10 дней назад

Back here watching this in 2024 after the early access release of Hades II. Absolutely fell in love with the first game when it was something I initially didn’t think I’d be drawn to. Now with hundreds of hours in it, it’s one of my all-time favorite games. Really looking forward to being involved with the early access dev process on the sequel!

@Death9208 2 года назад

I looked at your subscriber count, misread it as 760k, and STILL thought you were underrated. I watched most of your videos and haven't regreted even one, please continue uploading at this high quality.

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Much appreciated! And will do, the next video is in the works!

@jojoboyrockz 2 года назад

Whoaaa I didn’t even realize lol

@coldstuff9784 2 года назад

Great video! I love how you talk about the development in such a unique way, love the editing, love how you put faces to these quotes, it's just a very enjoyable viewing. And also, the thing that struck out at me was how attractive the characters looked, it's funny to see that it was intentional.

@LukeShillabeer 2 года назад

Amazing walkthrough of SuperGiant and Hades - thanks for all the hard work Glen ✨

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

My pleasure, glad to hear you enjoyed it!

@reysworld2490 Год назад

2:08 those words aged well

@moon1val Год назад

Time and circumstances are right. Hades was a 10/10

@reysworld2490 Год назад

@@moon1val i know and im so excited hopefully it comes out on switch

@maik3725 2 года назад

Always excited to see a new video released on your channel, great job!

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Much appreciated!

@urielcagnotti Год назад

I gotta say, this is one of the best games ever made. I've just started playing it and by the Gods it's so gooooood, you can tell how much love they put on this game, how much depth and care there is. Such a well crafted and detailed game, the devs deserve the world.

@hoobidibahbidibah8119 2 года назад

I've been meaning to give Hades a try at some point. After seeing some gameplay and story clips, and after seeing the fascinating process it underwent during development here, has fully convinced me to get it.

@AintYourChannel 2 года назад

Your editing is amazingly detailed! I have a feeling you're going to really blow up soon

@eriuehr Год назад

It now makes sense why Hades won a lot of prizes for its storytelling. Congrats on the video!

@mijouzouzou9150 2 года назад

Your videos are always so interesting, I love watching them. The way the esthetic of the video match the one of the game is so impressive too! Thank you for your work

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

My pleasure, happy to hear you enjoy the videos!

@amy-cv2nw Год назад

Thanks for this video, I’m incredibly interested in both the programming behind this game and the artistic direction! This video sums it up nicely. I truly hope one day they release an art book for this game, Jen Zee’s work is an inspiration. Doesn’t seem like it will happen anytime soon though, I suppose art books are incredibly difficult to produce :/ Great video!

@someweeb4110 7 дней назад

Man Hades has to be the most enjoyable early access I’ve gotten to play. Since 2019 the steam release it was a monthly surprise and as you mentioned the god mentioning new stuff in game was just awesome. ROR2 is a close second for best early access

@chrishmmr 2 дня назад

I bought this game three times (Switch, EGS, Steam) and after dropping it 12 hours in twice out of frustration, I finally finished it on my third try yesterday.

@klug5916 Год назад

Apart for the clear passion and involvement of the whole team, it's showing how diversity, done right, can be interesting and attractive.

@Alalea17 2 месяца назад

The thing is diversity doesn't have to be attractive to have its own right. The other thing is, that claiming that diversity cam somehow be the cause for a piece of media being bad, is an false accusation. Discriminatory in itself, because it strives to make diversity seen as something that somehow can be a bad thing. Like when always when a black person does something horrible all black people are like that, but if a white person does the same it's just one white person within a bunch of individuals. And that's the racist thing in claiming: diversity makes things bad. A false causation

@MissMokate 2 года назад

it's hilarious to think Theseus could've been the protagonist of this game

@ohgodno 2 года назад

you did a very good job at not spoiling almost anything obviously except for the core game concept

@trizgo_ Год назад

2:07 "Even though the studio has never made a direct sequel to any of their games, it's not something they're opposed to doing; they just don't want to do it unless the time and circumstances are right." THE TIME AND CIRCUMSTANCES ARE RIGHT, GAMERS!!!

@IvanPerina 2 года назад

Great video, the attention to details of making the texts in Hades style, congrats

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Thank you, glad you liked it!

@SecretSynth 2 года назад

This is some of the most brilliant editing I've ever seen. Holy heck this channel is underrated!

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Glad to hear you like the editing, by far the part I put the most time in so it's always nice to hear when people appreciate it!

@anarchypoisons 2 года назад

I've been watching your videos in the background as I draw, they're so interesting and really good. The editing in this one is of such high quality that I couldn't even look away. Crazy to me that the video is only at 16k views, it's amazing. Time to binge more x]

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Wow, thank you very much for the kind words! I hope you enjoy the other videos as well :D

@Youlatera 22 дня назад

Most of my favorite games either had an alpha phase or are indie. Minecraft, hollow knight, hades, Celeste, bg3, and so many more. Getting player feedback is invaluable when making games

@DungeonsandRoses 2 года назад

For the record, I’m liberal as they come. Despite that, the fact that the decision to diversify the cast was made by someone called Jen Zee is just… *chef’s kiss*

@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 2 года назад

? i thought liberals beg for diversity. you can have diversity that's fine, just don't force it in. I like how she wanted to keep the themes of the characters. don't just drop in a gay guy or ffs don't make thanatos gay. and their fking discord server is "progressive" (more like regressive). It's nice to know their wasn't "diversity" in the game. It was instead diversity.

@triplezee7589 2 года назад

yall hear sumn?

@DungeonsandRoses 2 года назад

@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 It's just a joke about her name sounding like Gen Z. No need to go any further than that with this thread.

@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 2 года назад

@@DungeonsandRoses sorry blind didn't see it.

@magica3526 2 года назад

@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 ancient greece was notoriously straight

@KingNachos4 2 года назад

Glen your videos are getting better and better keep it up and your style of editing is my favourite

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Much appreciated and will do!

@tasya_nabila Год назад

I found this game from one random video on RU-vid. I stunned byt Zagreus design and voice. Then I played it and become one of my favorite game. Thanks random video on RU-vid

@arcthum Год назад

Have you seen the Hades 2 trailer?

@MESSIYUH 2 года назад

Wow, another incredible video with sublime editing. Great job man, I hope your channel keeps on growing.

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Much appreciated, glad to hear you liked it!

@WBF_III 2 года назад

I loved this history! I just started playing last month and wasn't aware of almost any of this! Great video.

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Thank you William, glad to hear you enjoyed it!

@yorickvlt1021 2 года назад

To whoever made the subtitles, thanks a lot, I can watch this at school without having to blast the volume

@burcuzeynepzorlu9423 2 года назад

I’d love to hear the story of Kentucky Route Zero! It’s an amazing game with interesting dialogue and beautiful music like “Too Late to Love You”. It was a hauntingly beautiful experience to actually choose the lyrics of the song they were playing. Very hard to understand the concept tho cause it’s so abstract..

@finallyanime 2 года назад

Such a quality video wow….very impressed. So glad hades did well…they deserve it & Greg k has come such a long way remember his older gamespot reviews

@kukukachu 2 года назад

If you ever want to dive into some interesting stories, I highly recommend looking into the franchise Panzer Dragoon series, the ones that were made by Team Andromeda. It is such an interesting and depressing story which I feel is why the world that was created by them feels that much more believable. There is also the story of Trials, the motorcycle game and its crazy ARG. Anywho, great work as always.

@gabrielwillians1385 Год назад

wow, amazing video!! Hades is one of my favorites games ever, and it was really nice to know how it was made

@tmbocelot Год назад

Very cool video. I didn’t know Hades was an early access title and was worried about Hades 2 being one. But it looks like they did a great job with the first one so I’m excited now!

@marceberhart7175 Год назад

Looking forward to the upcoming sequel. And yes it's already in the making

@jayvillanueva6058 Год назад

A year ago we saw the Hecate model and it's only now being used! They planned this way in advance!

@mySDK3333 2 года назад

Nice work! It's amazing to see them making critical decision during early development.

@pabloquijadasalazar7507 2 года назад

9:18 Yo they need to get with Netflix and make an anime. That trailer looks really good, and I could see them getting like 3 seasons out of it.

@Surftoon 2 года назад

Wow, I used to not like this game but after knowing all this I’m buying it right now 🤯what an incredible video, what incredible devs

@dxcSOUL 4 месяца назад

Supergiant is a rare gem. And that term is thrown around a lot. But SG definitely deserves that moniker

@GoBlueHTB 16 дней назад

And now Hades 2 is coming!!

@ChocolateAsian9000 2 года назад

What an amazing and informative video! Love this game and love seeing behind the scenes-without it we’d have no product and we can all learn from others. I’m gonna go watch you other videos now 😁

@felipe5horas 2 года назад

This was very informative. And this game deserves such a video. Thanks a bunch 😊

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it!

@hydrolist8559 2 года назад

fantastic video. very informative. didn't know all the behind the scenes that went on during the development of hades.

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Much appreciated, glad to hear you liked it!

@t-machine3427 2 года назад

Alright, I've seen some of your documentaries before, but that's it, I'm sold. Subbing now, you're just too good!

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Thank you so much for subscribing!

@LiliumSpiderEyes 2 года назад

Great video. After this one it's only logical to make one about dead cells since these games are compared so much.

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Thank you! Dead Cells is on my list but the next video will be about a different game.

@nbarragan12 2 года назад

Keep on loving your videos! I really want to play Hades, and I feel bad for not having done so already. I'm just too scared of becoming addicted to the game. Regardless, I'll play it soon. I love Supergiant games. They are an amazing studio and I'm happy to see how they were eager to be in contact with the community and to listen to the people that play their games. That's awesome and more studios should do that. Btw, have you played A Short Hike? I would love to know more about its development 😁

@FaatiBomBom 2 года назад

Would love to see a video on Arboria. There must definitely be a fun team behind that.

@parasitone0814 7 дней назад

Theseus: NO FAIR THE GAME WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT ME AND ASTERIUS!! Zagreus: Should've had a richer story for gameplay. Theseus: *Mounts Macedonian Tau Lambda and puts on mask*

@sakura1406 2 года назад

I would love to see you cover Night in the Woods! Just finished it a few days ago and I love it.

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

It's on my list ;)

@pringrings22 Год назад

HADES 2 BABY!!!!

@ickygabe 2 года назад

Always enjoy your videos, can’t wait to see what other games you dive into!

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Glad to hear you like them! I’ve got a lot more videos in store :D

@ickygabe 2 года назад

@@ThatGuyGlen Awesome!

@9and7 22 дня назад

I didn't even notice Athena and Artemis weren't Greek until I saw this. Never saw them as unGreek in any way to begin with. That's how good the game is.

@dawn_slayer Год назад

Hold up.........did he just say that the art director of this game is literally Jen zee? like wtf 🤣🤣

@mikec5400 Год назад

its a perfect fit too considering the changes to greek gods

@spartandumpster1158 2 года назад

I definitely think Hades is among the best Rogue-likes, right up there with Binding of Isaac.

@namajeff4199 2 года назад

Amazing and outstanding video Whenever you upload a video, it does work as motivation for me to finish my last 2 years of uni and finally start working on my own game

@ThatGuyGlen 2 года назад

Thank you very much, glad to hear the videos can serve as motivation for you!

@seankale5116 Год назад

im very lucky to have met most of the people at super giant, and all such nice people. Jen Zee is prob one of the coolest people i have ever met and for that and just the beauty of the art an story in their games, i will buy any game this studio puts out.

@karddoespiano2300 Год назад

Everyone from the studio was invited to talk about what are they passionate about. And they said "What if God of War but make it wholesome?"

@danarseptiyanto4066 Год назад

"..and also, Super Hot."

@karddoespiano2300 Год назад

@@danarseptiyanto4066 well Zag is pretty hot tho

@monotonexylophone1623 Год назад

Can't believe the art director's name is gen z it really explains the character designs

@Alalea17 2 месяца назад

Oh you mean the pink Hair? Yes, that really is bothersome. I mean, they didn't have hair dye at the time and it is so much unrealistic to think that people in Greece could even think that their gods would be able to do something like this. So yeah, they should never have changed that hair to pink or blue or that green skin of tisiphone? Good you aren't only complaining about the black and brown skin, cause that would be really weird if that was the only thing you thought of.. like what a coincidence that would be and not at all with the subtle connotation that you believe in non-white people being bothersome while literally everything other deriving from the source material is not. Well what a luck.

@monotonexylophone1623 2 месяца назад

@@Alalea17 touch grass