I'm so sorry for your loss Greg. The irony that you analyze those who throw away life is not lost on me and I appreciate you all the more for the work you do to help bring them to justice.
She never talks about wanting to know who killed her sons. She never talks about wanting justice for the kids. That’s what I see with her. I believe she did it.
She saves all her anger and vitriol for the detectives who investigated her and the Asst DA who put on her death row. No anger for the invisible intruder who murdered her boys though. A huge red flag when you blame LE for your conviction.
She said she comforted her son and told him to "hold on," and he said to her "okay, mommy." How can that be when according to autopsy reports and first responders, the children were stabbed in the chest, lungs and back and would be unable to speak?
I completely agree that when’s she’s talking about comforting her dying son, she keeps making eye contact through her tears with the interviewer. You just don’t do that.
“We’re dealing with a psychopathic-idiot in this case. This girl isn’t smart; I don’t care what anybody says, she’s an idiot!” Best comment of the video. 👏🏻👏🏻
I completely agree. I almost fell off my chair laughing. It was almost as funny as when Routier was confronted on the stand with letters that she wrote in jail, claiming to know who the killer was, while claiming traumatic amnesia as her defense. Psychopathic idiot is exactly what she is! LOL
I think she sounds like a complete moron too! I would like to see a law passed that allows investigators inject sodium Pentothal into these psychotic people. A Polygraph isn’t admissible, but a lot of these criminals take them. If you claim your innocence then agree to take this injection!
I wouldn’t be able to get out of bed 8 days after losing 1 child. I’d be hospitalized in a psychiatric facility if I lost 2 especially in such a horrific way.
I've been subbed to this channel for a few months and really love the content. I don't comment unless I have something substantive to add to the conversation, but these four gents have made me realize what bad liars most people are, myself included. *I also wanted to thank Greg and Chase for their service to this country, and ALL FOUR of them for their service to humanity.*
I remember this when it happened. Standing at the grave, 8 days later with silly string, smiling, singing and chopping on gum.... so disturbing to watch. I wouldn’t be able to complete a sentence or tie my shoes at that point.
I remember it too and although Europeans seem to celebrate the life of a pssed family member much more differently than we do in the states and much more so in the Soutn, her happy ass ....omg, c,a,b!!! How is it you just know when the cops have the right person. Just that gut instinct. Spooky!
But that is YOU. Different people do different things in grief. I can understand her giving her son a last birthday party if she is innocent. But she is as guilty as can be as the real evidence proves, not the lines in her face.
I don't understand how the son that was still alive - despite the fact that he must have been in terrible pain & gurgling with blood he could even talk, let alone say "i love you mummy' is not possible (a nurse's perspective}
The story about him waking her and walking and talking was not her first story, either. Damon was barely able to even drag himself a few feet from where he was originally attacked, and as for talking,...his lungs were punctured, so no.
In the trial transcript, she said her little boy woke her up after being stabbed then changed it; she was awakened by the attacker. She lied all through that transcript.
Imagine being in the middle of all of what happened just being woken to see a blood bath. I’m certain it would play over and over and over in your head and play out slightly differently or you’d think did that happen or what if. I’m almost sure it would be really hard to completely piece something like this together in your head so I think that’s it’s almost impossible to use that to decide she’s guilty. I’ve done quite abit of research into this case and I’m still 50/50 the prosecution make a lot of good points but then the defence also make a lot of good points too and they all seem to contradict each other over and over
Knocked me unconscious! No head wounds; no concussion. Yet within minutes she is being woken up by her fatally wounded child! She keeps talking about one man, even in the times she says she cannot remember, yes the 911 call is ALL, ‘they, they, they’… Greg Hartley came across so well on this, particularly about the child-like nah, nah, nah speech style.
I would love to see you guys do one of Robert Wagner, Christopher Walken, and the boat captain on the Natalie Wood death. So many unanswered questions on that one. It’s officially reopened!
@@66fiveandahalf yes lots of video to analyze before Wagner stopped cooperating and the boat captain “squealed on Wagner” about important details. I think it was one of those things where the captain felt like the police was starting to get close and he went you know “first to squeal gets the best deal”. However they didn’t because of who Wagner and Walken knew. I’m wanting to know if Wagner is lying and if the boat captain is telling the truth.
47:26 I love this example. My sister (a narcissist) was caught stealing at a department store during her teens (hundreds of dollars of clothes). Fast forward to her 20s she was applying for a job at a department store and during the group interview they asked everyone what they would do if they saw a colleague stealing. My sister’s response was she doesn’t snitch. You’re right, people take care of their kind, whatever kind that may be. And no, she didn’t get the job.
There might be a time when a Snitch will do you wrong. I prefer to be around people who will stand their ground and do the right thing, the Police are working for the State, they love Snitche's even if they put the Snitche's life in danger. It's a character failing to be a snitch!
That statement of “I’ll die with a clean conscience” is so incredibly baffling to me. If someone had attacked me inside my home and killed my children, then I was put to death for that crime while the real killer walked free, I would die a tortured and enraged woman. A ‘clean conscience’ implies being at peace with something. How could a truely innocent person be ok with that situation?!
In my life I have known two women close to me who lost a child: one from suicide,the other one from car accident. Both of them literally aged 20 years in one night because of grief. Their eyes are still so full of sadness and pain. They both look like ghosts. I don't see it here. I just don't. Grief is universal,a mother's love is universal. I don't know...I believe she's guilty.
Yes good point. My 2nd cousin lost her 18yr old son to accidental drowning 3yrs ago. Even though she has 4 children still, she has not gotten over it. She has constant dark bags under her eyes from crying.... goes to work but is a shell of her former self...& surprises herself that her marriage is still intact. Mourning & grief for a lost child can take a lifetime. Not once has my cousin got balloons & shot silly string @ his grave while laughing her head off.
EXACTLY! My mother, and two of my sister lost children, and each of the changed in ways that can't be quantified. I was 5 years old when my 18 year old brother was killed. My mother was a HUSK of a human being for 15 years before I started seeing some of her again. It aged her, it changed her forever, and I was mothered (if you can call it that) by a woman who was angry that she was alive, and who hated and resented the inconvenience of having a small child to look after. That's grief. My mother is the strongest woman I've ever known, and it nearly destroyed her.
@@cookie_dough_hangover ... it was, but it wasn't until my first child was born that I began to understand my mother's utter anguish. As I held my beautiful new born baby boy and smelled his sweet little head, and caressed his tiny hands, I finally understood my mother and it helped me heal. Thank you for your compassion. I am a pragmatic, unemotional person, and even I can't imagine the pain of losing a child - much less two. Unless Routiere was just straight up psychologically broken, as in experiencing a break in reality, I would not just off-handedly chalk her behavior up to "well, everyone grieves differently. " What this woman displays in her behavior is not normative.
The 911 call convinced me of her guilt. Her son was bleeding out and she was worried about making sure the 911 operator knew why her fingerprints would be on the murder weapon?
@@LaurenSAllen85 True, but she mentioned the knife repeatedly before the operator finally told her not to touch anything. And she, after saying she already touched it and picked it up, said, "We could have gotten the prints, maybe." Why was she so sure the only prints found on it would be her own? Why was she so sure she had removed all of "the intruder's" prints? Because she knew there was no intruder. Just like when Darin came downstairs, she never asked if he was okay or if baby Drake was okay--why ask, when she already knew they were fine?
For all you people thinking she’s innocent. Can someone tell me why a burglar would break into the house, take a knife from the family’s knife holder, cut the screen with it, then put it back in the knife holder? Sheesh.
@@stevis8264 EXACTLY, Stevis82! Every time the police find the crime scene has been cleaned, they know it's an inside job. No stranger is going to stick around to clean anything after they commit their crime.
😂😂😂she's such a liar. I always laugh at her trying the annoying high pitched, childlike voice, thinking THAT makes her so believable!! 😂😂😂 I knew for sure, when detectives said Darlie's blood was cleaned up and wiped to try and clean, but obviously she sucks at housework, so it's not surprising that she was too lazy. Lol
@@chantel7827 Respectfully… it’s the same voice with literally EVERY interview, speaking moment since this came out. THAT IS HER VOICE! But…. You’re right! She’s annoying..lol and guilty as hell! 😂 she deserves right where she’s at!!
@@ellenhawkins128 yep, I think she admitted she has NO CONSCIENCE! We all have a conscience, at BIRTH, but too often we NUMB it ) Linked directly to our Gut intuition, conscience is SILENCED, every time we break one of “The Ten Commandments” ,- whether it’s GREED, DRUGS, ENVY, ADDICTION, or IDOLATRY ( which creates a God-like view of SELF!) EVERY OVERINDULGENCE is COSTLY, even too much White, granulated SUGAR silences GUT Intuition! ….Unfortunately, for this woman’s children, this pathetic excuse for a mother, dulled her conscience much sooner than most….( Let her life-lesson teach us All, to DO better! ) G00D Humans possess NO GOODNESS, without CONSCIENCE.,AND, an accurate sense of self! Conscience is the voice which speaks to us, WHEN NO ONE ELSE IS L 👀KING
I think she has used that childlike wide-eyed innocence to cover for stories her whole life, and is probably shocked it didn't work this time. Right on, Greg!!!
Definitely. I saw a video of her being interviewed in jail from about 2010, and she's dropped the Bambi expression and now sounds like someone who'd be able to dress herself without assistance. The airhead persona must not have been working for her in prison.
Some questions for people who think she's innocent: Why does her shirt have cuts that don't correspond to any wounds? Why is there no trace of blood in the garage? If you say it's because the intruder didn't have any blood on him, how do you explain all the blood in the utility room? If Darlie truly put wet towels on the boys' backs, why were there no towels anywhere near the boys: why were the only bloody towels found in the hallway near the kitchen? Why wasn't a single drop of either boys' blood found on any of the towels? When Darlie gave police a detailed inventory of her injuries, two day days before they were photographed, why did Darlie never mention the bruising on her arms? Why did Darlie's mom wait 5 years before mentioning the "insurance scam' to anyone? If Darin has arranged to have his car stolen, why can no-one produce a police report of the theft? He couldn't have claimed any insurance payment without one. If the police had such tunnel vision, why did they spend several days combing the house for evidence, or waste hundreds of man-hours following up leads about the "black car"? If the police were looking to frame Darlie, why did they DNA test the blond hair found in the window screen? Why did Darlie spend years delaying the bloody fingerprint being run through the database? I'd appreciate any and all answers.
The one thing I will never understand is that in all the interviews of her and her family I have never herd one word about catching the real killer. That says alot.
Right!?!?!?! I wouldn't agree for a single interview unless I was given the opportunity to ask the public for help finding the person that killed my 2 children...
@@jill4334 I do not include her 911 call. Is there a recorded interview of her saying anyting about catching the killers if so please post a link. I have watched many interviews with her and her family NEVER have I herd one word about catching the REAL KILLER. If you dont have a link to a rercorded interview there must be some kind of a transcript of an interview.
Correct, you or your husband go vigilantly justice on everyone. You go full Rambo and hunt for the killer. I’m always amazed at the people who sit on their ass and wait for law enforcement to catch the killer. Unfathomable to me.
@@Piksuful I feel the same way! Even if those boys loved silly string, that would not excuse her facial expressions & overall demeanor!! Just look at the expressions of the others, standing around! Sure explains those looks of WTF is WRONG with her!?…….And since then, to watch her mother defend her, makes me nauseous! It also causes me to question, ARE MOM & DAUGHTER disgustingly similar? As the mother of two grown children, if my child was involved in such grievous acts, AND his / her guilt had been proven with FACTS, I’d RUN from cameras like a scalded dawg! Every spare moment would find me on my Knees…..in prayer!
I lost my 21 year old son a little over 2 years ago and it’s the party at the grave site that I’ll never be able to understand. The enormity of the loss of my child never leaves, I never get a moment “off” in my grief where I could look or feel so carefree and just…unbothered…
You really should watch the hole video before u judge her there was hours of her crying and praying and the aunt and little cousins were the ones that brought the silly string because it was there little best friends favorite thing. The cops followed her for a year and this was the only thing they could use against her and it was a snippet of what transpired that day. Noone ever talks about the Husband he had a motive he was having an affair they never showed a motive for her. Woman that kill there kids always end up having a motive weather it is an affair, drugs crazy religion belief they never found anything in her background. Woman that kill there kids kill them all she would have had the opportunity to kill all of them I am sure at some point she would have been left alone with them while her husband was in a different part of the house.
I am deeply sorry for your loss. Everyone Handel's loss in different ways I am sure if you were followed for over a year there would have been some point that you would have said or done something that would look inappropriate to others!
One of the most telling actions in this case was the test the police did which showed “the killer” cleaned all the blood off the kitchen counter. There was a large cleaned area. I would want to ask her why a killer would care to clean her kitchen.
She also cleaned the sink of all the blood and the kitchen floor as well, but oops, she missed her blood on the cabinet door under the sink as well as her blood inside that same cabinet. BUT Luminol found it all.
The only reason I can think of is if a killer thought he/she had spilled some of their own blood in the areas they cleaned. That's a possibility, however I also think she's guilty.
PS Their infant son, Drake, was asleep upstairs with Darin, Darlie's husband when the boys were murdered. Drake is now 25 years old, lives with Darin and his GF (Darlie and Darin divorced by mutual consent in 2011) and Drake was very sick at one time with leukemia. After years of chemotherapy, he is now in remission. He believes his mom is innocent and visits her regularly in prison in Gatesville, TX. Can't blame the kid.
I can't believe how much I love these breakdowns! One small thing, though, I wish these were edited side-by-side with the parts of the clip you're talking about, or maybe just a muted looping replay of the segment for reference. I'm trying to remember the clip, and learn how to read people, and then remembering the commentary about the clip on replay. I'm learning a lot, and my memory is probably getting better as a result, but I'm sure I'm losing a good chunk of what was said by the Behavior Panel by the time the replay rolls around again.
Totally agree. By the fourth person I don't remember what the body language was. Even if not the whole time, some cuts to stills or muted audio when it is referenced would be super helpful.
Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks? I'm 59 years old and I just used things I learned from your videos. A young man doing work for us just lied to me and I was able to detect it and defend myself from his manipulative behavior because of what you taught me. He deflected, he tried to redirect the conversation, etc. All of this was via text. Even thought I couldn't see his body language, I still saw his deception. Thank you for teaching this old broad such useful things. PS. He has been fired. (smile)
The medical person reported that one of the boy who was still alive was crawling away from her. An injured distressed child will move towards his mother not away unless he is stabbed by the mother.
That's not true, he hugged up to her before she knew how bad it was and she pushed him back, she totally regretted that she pushed him away to get to the phone, remember she was taking thin thin and when she slept she slept hard, not the light sleeper anymore, they took those off the market a couple years later, so did she do this and try to cover it up before csi was a thing? hmm I don't think so, was she doing script drugs that made her an idiot well yeah.
@@marjorie9390 Not one thing you have said there is true. Not one. I have no idea where you got any of it, but it is all completely untrue. Darlie's own statements prove it; witness testimony proves it; physical evidence proves it. False.
We'd love to hear any memories you might be willing to share. They were such bright, beautiful little boys. (Was your child invited to/did your child attend the birthday party at Darlie Kee's house? I'd be very, very interested and grateful for anything you're willing to share about that, as well--anything at all.)
Didn’t the Routiers call the media and invite them to the cemetery party? They also invited the kid’s friends from the neighborhood. I think kid’s parents didn’t let their them come, with good reason….but it’s all just so bizarre. Not only the lack of grief, but if some unknown person had crept into my home in the dark of night, viciously murdered my children, tried to kill me, I would be in hiding, terrified for my family.
Here's the thing...as a mom, if someone broke into my house and killed one of my children, there is no way in hell he'd get near my second child unless he killed me first.
Thank you for doing this analysis. I lived in the area when this happened and my husband worked with one of her neighbors. There is so much evidence that the national news organizations like to leave out when they cover this case. They just want it to look like it was just stupid small town investigators who went after this poor woman just because she grieved in a weird way. As they always say, how do any of us know how we would react in that circumstance? I think most people have enough empathy to know how humans react to certain situations. A few years ago I listened to an interview with the investigators on this case. They were deeply disturbed by these murders and continued to investigate even after her conviction. When her husband sold the house and moved out, they got a search warrant and went through the house. They found boxes of the boys photos and toys left behind in the attic. It just makes you wonder what is wrong with that whole family.
I found it odd Darren failed a lie detector test and they lit it slide. I found it really convenient he was upstairs didn’t hear a peep…. Who leaves pictures of their sons. He always divorced darlie later as well.
@@davidtassy9901 Darlie took a private lie detector test before trial and her results have never been released to the public. How do you feel about that?
@@2hereagain Darlie and Darin were probably as guilty as each other, but she was definitely guilty. There is plenty of evidence that wasn't sensationalised, but the difference is, the cover up had enough evidence to show that Darlie definitely had something to do with it, and Darin wasnt bleeding so he was harder to prove. The problem is everyone comes to this conclusion that if Darin is guilty that means Darlie is innocent, and she is not. If she proves Darin had something to do with it then she has to admit that she did too, and I have had enough experience with neighbours to know that they don't know as much as they say they do when something like this happens. They loved Darlie because she was good to them but it was only ever superficial, she loved the status. The only differences between Darlie and Diane Downs is that Darlie is likeable, and isnt a narcissist, so her intellect just about matches her perception of her own intelligence, and she isnt stupid. I will say though I'm glad she has stopped that fake baby voice in recent years, it makes me gag.
At about 1:01:20 she says “I can guarantee that this is the last thing a guilty person would do!” How can she personally guarantee what a guilty person would do unless she was one. Sounds like she just admitted to being guilty to me.
Too bad they didn't play the interview right after the murder where Darlie and her husband were outside speaking to the reporters and Darlie has a huge smile on her face, then remembers she is not supposed to be happy and quickly changes her expression.
That's right and she focuses completely on the situation as a crime, not a medical emergency. Also, whenever the 9 1 1 operator asks her about the intruder she avoids giving any information. She's as vague about the intruder as she can be.
What would a grieving mother do for her murdered sons birthday 8 days after the incident? A. Mourn and be sad at herself B. Mourn and be angry at herself C. Jump up and down laughing and joking spraying stringy foam everywhere in public. Answer is C for Completely Psychopathic ❤️👊🏼
C does not mean psychopath… some people may want to honor their loved ones life by doing something for them that they would wanted… not saying she is innocent but she obviously is child like & her actions are of those who are but a child.
Like they always say on the panel, in 9/11 calls, if the person is telling any type of story instead of describing the condition of the injured person and asking how to help, they are mostly always the perpetrator. Watch the staircase one there’s a very good example of this. Happy learning, fellow panelist!
Greg, my condolences for the loss of your child. And yes, having lost my sister at age 30, to homicide, holidays especially at first are about survival, not celebration.
I lived in Dallas, Texas at the time this all went down and I saw that party scene over and over and every time it made me want to puke! I am a mother of 4 children and being able to spray silly string and smack gum while laughing it up at my children’s fresh graveside was absolutely repulsive to me. I have lost one of my children since this case went down to a tragic motorcycle accident and wow, it’s been almost 2 years now and I can’t really laugh or even get my sons name out of my mouth without shaking and feeling emotions welling up inside me. I have to stop myself and switch to another topic before I break down…it is just too damn painful! My son died of a foolish and careless mistake, her children were murdered in cold blood around her and yet she isn’t even traumatized enough to shed a tear at their grave?! This woman is sick and evil! She doesn’t need help, she deserves the death sentence she received! The only question in any of the minds of the locals around her had over this case was whether the husband has his own role in the murders or not. They never could pull enough evidence together to convict him as an accessory in all this, but it was very hard for most of us to believe that he knew and heard none of the events going on downstairs. His “innocence” in all this still is questionable. During the burying of his children and the trial he was far more interested in “saving Darlie” than what really happened to his own children! Supposedly, he vowed to spend ever last penny he ever made trying to get Darlie’s case over turned and her freedom. I guess that hasn’t really worked out for her now has it? There is a special place in hell for Darlie and they need to hurry up and send her there.
I don't have any reason to believe Darin was involved in the murders. I do agree he lied in support of her many times, which is unexplainable. He has remarried and rebuilt his life.
I don't know. I have been in very painful circumstances and I don't cry easily. But when you lose your children or anyone important to you, in this manner, I think the tears of devastation would be there. However, some people are more angry and upset that they weren't there to, or didn't save their loved ones and then they beat themselves up inside and the sweated tears are more on the edge of coming out; the expression of hurt and devastation is there but less teary, particularly for men. But con artists, especially male ones, cry in the most overwhelming and compelling manner. Red faced, blubbering or bawling, crying for themselves. However, the same gut crying can be for the right reasons as for the wrong ones. In family court they often treat women's tears as lies, but men's tears as genuine, but either way, they often get it wrong. Sweated tears can also be fake and more about the effort of trying to lie. You have to look at the whole picture.
@@jillybean3688 Wouldn't it be horrible if she didn't do it? There's a very small doubt in my mind but I just couldn't swallow the story and she appears to be very narcissistic.
I agree Scott....to have a birthday party after your child has been murdered, dancing, laughing at their grave....unconscionable. Every year, even 50 yrs later, until I died, I would be in pain. Time never heals something like this....it just stitches a patch over your heart and soul, that rips open every now and then.
The media did not show the whole tape as wise41 said… it actually shows her & her family crying… I really do not see anything wrong with her actions here… she was celebrating their life, this was what they would have wanted happen at their birthday if they were alive…. Sadly people twist truths to fit what they want to make someone look bad…
@@steviesgirlbrenwag I am not asking for an argument here in any way ~ but have you ever had to bury A child as I have? I can tell you that I, and every member of my family, friends, and support group, find this behavior extremely questionable. There is no way you could exhibit that level of happiness when true grief seizes you. No way!
I went to daycare with the boys and they were my friends. I remember grief counselors coming in to talk to us and Darli leaving a note on the front door of the daycare.
@@USMC-jk2bt I know it’s been a minute since your posted this comment, but do you remember what the note Darlie left said? ( yes, I know you were young, but I’m curious whether or not you heard any parents, or daycare workers discussing the msg. contained in the note )
@@TekieD-Rogers I wish I could remember in more detail but from what I recall it was basically a note saying that the boys had gone to heaven. The staff didn’t go into detail as they probably thought it was inappropriate . I just remember grief councilors taking us one by one to a room to talk about it and if we needed to talk about anything or how we were feeling. Some girls cried like they were close with them . I remember feeling at the time like why are these girls even being that upset . They weren’t friends with them. Hell I played with Devon and Damon and I wasn’t that upset . I guess people react differently to tragedy.
@@TekieD-Rogers I wish I could remember in more detail but from what I recall it was basically a note saying that the boys had gone to heaven. The staff didn’t go into detail as they probably thought it was inappropriate . I just remember grief councilors taking us one by one to a room to talk about it and if we needed to talk about anything or how we were feeling. Some girls cried like they were close with them . I remember feeling at the time like why are these girls even being that upset . They weren’t friends with them. Hell I played with Devon and Damon and I wasn’t that upset . I guess people react differently to tragedy.
@@USMC-jk2bt Thanks for sharing that, & to be honest, I’m surprised by how much you DO remember. After all, shock can be severe enough to wipe EVERY memory- slate clean, at least for a time….AS I’m sure you already know…..And by the way: I didn’t notice your ID user info til just now. Thank you for stepping up, & in, for me! Your service to our Country, makes you my HERO! FREEDOM has / will, NEVER be free- God Bless You! If anyone deserves God’s Absolute BEST, certainly you do!! 🙏T.D-Rogers ( a.k.a teeKee)
Mr. Hartley, I am so sorry to hear that you and your family have lost a child. I can't imagine how difficult a loss it would be, blessings to you for being able to help others I do believe your work here will aid others in thier lives. I know it helps me when I am able to understand why I am seeing red flags rather than in the past only being able to feel something is off now I have a reason other than just feeling.
If my son was killed, much less murdered while I was in the same room, I’d be laying in his bed sobbing. I’d feel guilty I didn’t save him while I was right there! She never says any regrets: If I only would have woken up, if only we’d slept in our beds, closed and locked that window, etc.
Looking at her in first clip, from a distance, not considering any knowledge of body language & psychology, it’s obvious that she is responding to a complete fantasy, it’s like she is talking about a completely different subject than the interviewer is. Plus, her overall tone is that she’s trying to convince, not explain or tell.
No one smiles in jail talking about the Very Brutal Murder of there children! Why isn't she saying, " Can you imagine seeing your children brutally stabbed and murdered"! Instead it's all about me and what I went through! She is exactly where she belongs!
Greg my sincerest condolences to you and your family. I lost a child as well. The silly string incident happened about a year after I lost my son and this convinced me Darlie was guilty. It was a shocking display.
There are many people and groups who are actively defending her. She didn’t get a fair trial. Look it up...Try to find the truth of the lame circumstantial evidence. Don’t be a conclusion-jumper!
@@gigi9301 Oh yes, she did have a fair trial. Most of the people who support her are delusional and wouldn't know a fact about this case if it bit them in the butt..
@@sharonkv777 I'm all the way over in Scotland and watched a couple of documentaries and I was left with an uneasy feeling about this , hope they are able to get the DNA from the fingerprint found on the table maybe it will give some clarity. We thankfully don't have Death Penalty here as that element of miscarriages happen throughout the world , I personally could not live with myself to condemn someone to death if their is even a smidgen of a chance they got it wrong, too heavy a burden for my wee Scottish shoulders ✌✌