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💥How to get aggressive tones with compression - The complete guide for Bass! Metal Bass Monday Ep.67 

Rodney McG
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How to use compression to get better distorted tones, add definition and grit, and get the sound you've been trying to pull out of your distortion pedals!
Bass compression is a mystery for many players. Let's cover compression for bass completely from settings, to effect on tone, to position in your signal chain. Compression can add the elements to your bass tone that you have been trying to get from your distortion pedals. Compression for metal bass is essential and this video will cover everything you need to get the savage bass distortion tone you are looking for, but aren't getting it from your distortion pedal!
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@pCeLobster
@pCeLobster 6 месяцев назад
I've noticed a lot of bass players abandoning the simplicity we once enjoyed and joining guitar players on the never ending quest for the perfect drive. Many have forgotten how powerful clean bass is. Clean eats distortion. Often times you can accomplish what you were wanting from a drive pedal just by turning up the treble, and it'll sound better than if it was actually distorted. I'm a fan of compression too and agree that having it at the end is the main thing. The double compressor trick is something I learned from Tony Levin. There are times when distortion is warranted and genuinely does sound better and more appropriate, but often times clean sounds better with the rest of the band. We bass players have to be wary of the tendency of distortion to sound better to us than it does to the listener.
@gerioux
@gerioux 3 месяца назад
Bass players have been using high gain for more than 50 years.
@user-pp9vc4ov5l
@user-pp9vc4ov5l 3 месяца назад
I agree that a clean sound is vital. I split my sound right after the first compressor to let the clean sound go through in parallel with the sound going through my effects chain. it adds cleanliness and yet with all the colour that I want with the effects. I use the BOSS LS-2 to control the volume of the clean and the affected sounds as I wish.
@sliverhandsonbasses
@sliverhandsonbasses Месяц назад
Except that…no.
@flabbath
@flabbath 8 месяцев назад
Finally. FINALLY. You have given me the ability to finally craft the bass tone I've been hearing in my head and lusting after. I cannot thank you enough. I just set up a bass patch on my helix and the difference with compression is like night and day. My bass sounds good finally.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 8 месяцев назад
Love to hear that!
@t.j.meechan682
@t.j.meechan682 3 года назад
Best teacher on RU-vid. The future is bright for you and your channel Rodney. Always a pleasure.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
You're too kind as always, sir!
@t.j.meechan682
@t.j.meechan682 3 года назад
@@RodneyMcG I've learned so much from you. I'm definitely not as good a bass player as i would like to be, but the info I've gotten from your channel has been incredible in helping me along. Appreciate ya sir!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
@@t.j.meechan682 Love to hear it!
@bflo1000
@bflo1000 3 года назад
Bass playing GENIUS!
@SxSxG666
@SxSxG666 2 года назад
I's bloody bla for over 5 minutes without saying anything about the topic.
@benjaminlitzenberger6837
@benjaminlitzenberger6837 2 года назад
I've only watched 2 videos of this guy so far and I’ve already learned 2 very useful big pieces of information on topics about bass
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
Glad to hear it!
@JPM777
@JPM777 4 месяца назад
Same here!
@Dapno_
@Dapno_ 2 года назад
I just keep coming back to these classics. Your advice is timeless. Probably because of your huge respect for and knowledge of bass gear history. Keep them coming man, this is a goldmine.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
I appreciate that!
@brianlimmy
@brianlimmy Год назад
Played bass for 3 years but I was always just going to presets on my compressor. Got a 5 string and was pretty unhappy with how muddy the B string sounded. This video was exactly what I needed to get an awesome super clear and aggressive sounding B string! Thanks a ton!
@mrmatthew2443
@mrmatthew2443 Год назад
Oh shit ..!! Yes yes , didn’t think of that Getting rid of flubby super low end I tune my e string down to dropped D and will try this Thanks
@dvdlittell
@dvdlittell Год назад
Rodney is completely right. I was doing just what he said. buying distortion and overdrives looking for the sound in my head. After seeing this post, I bought a Source Audio Atlas compressor (2 in's 2 out's) Running one at the front of the chain and one after my distortion on the dirt channel. What a difference!! Like night and day!!! Thank You so much for this valuable information!!! Saved my sooo much time and money!!
@TorqueTheRich
@TorqueTheRich Год назад
Really informative video Rodney!!! Been a bassist for over 40 years and the 2nd compressor idea makes a ton of sense. I'm gonna do it. I'll keep you posted.
@wateli
@wateli 3 года назад
Discovered your channel month or two ago, and i gotta say man, i love your channel and especially your tone! Have learned alot from your videos, keep it up! Cheers from Finland!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Much appreciated! Welcome!
@hallanation_
@hallanation_ Год назад
Great video...I had wondered about this but not experimented yet...you answered all my questions..thank you
@Dombobaybee
@Dombobaybee 29 дней назад
Just bought the mxr pedal the other day and THIS was the video i needed. Thank you. Gonna definitely subscribe.
@agentxxvii
@agentxxvii 2 года назад
As a guitar player who's not a very confident bass player, I was second guessing a lot of my playing choices, but turns out the tone I wanted was in there all along, but I was processing it all wrong. THIS is the advice I needed. Thank you!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
Glad it helped!
@bimlenbamlen6289
@bimlenbamlen6289 2 года назад
This video has helped me tremendously with my tone. Thanks Rodney!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
Glad to hear it!
@Crynzer
@Crynzer Год назад
Outstanding Video! Thank you for sharing this valuable info!
@jameshawkins6760
@jameshawkins6760 3 года назад
Thank you so much Rodney. This is going to help me a lot.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Glad to hear it! More coming today!
@FrontyardFootballwithfourguys
@FrontyardFootballwithfourguys 4 месяца назад
I use a Seymour Duncan compressor and a sans amp and I get the clean punchy simple tone I’ve been looking for
@Faifstarr
@Faifstarr Год назад
fretless diy electrician self tought. no music education, i tune by hz. took me 1 year to learn to make bass go metal. this video schooled me. big ups. much love.
@Bassmeister_Jay
@Bassmeister_Jay 3 года назад
Great video Rodney. Been outta the comments on here for a while but good to see I've got alot to catch up on.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Hey Jay - Good to see you
@jxorz6013
@jxorz6013 10 месяцев назад
Best explanation I've heard on the function and utility of compressors. I run a Bass Butler first in my chain, mostly because it hates following anything, and set its' optical compressor at about 11 o'clock because it grabs and boosts too hard for my dynamics when set much higher. Been thinking of adding a more controllable compressor at the end of my chain, too, and you've let me know that instinct is correct.
@iericnierman
@iericnierman Год назад
Huge difference. Great video. Thanks.
@legion2954
@legion2954 Год назад
That was really helpful. Thank you!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@dvkarloff
@dvkarloff 3 года назад
Dude!! Thank you so much for this! You've been telling me to get a compressor for years haha, I never got a chance to sit down and ask you why. I love this channel!!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
I'm slow, but eventually I get you 😂
@dvkarloff
@dvkarloff 3 года назад
@@RodneyMcG hahaha
@joeycovington4681
@joeycovington4681 2 года назад
Awesome, thanks!
@pleasurementgui
@pleasurementgui 2 года назад
Want you to know I searched to look more into this topic of pedals hoping you’d be in the first few suggestions, when I didn’t see you on the general search I added Rodney McG because your content is so much better than any other regarding metal bass. Never disappointed! Rock on, supporter here, and considering joining patreon!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
Greatly appreciated!
@nickchionis97
@nickchionis97 3 года назад
Thank you for this very useful video.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Glad you got something from it, Nick!
@flatgroundtv7097
@flatgroundtv7097 Год назад
Just found this channel today. Thank you for your tips. It's really helpful. ✊🏽
@arudd909
@arudd909 2 года назад
I have a bass preacher compression pedal right now, the dark glass b3k comes in two days. Looks like I'm watching this video at the right time
@chrismorris3897
@chrismorris3897 Год назад
Great Video, thank you!
@stubennett7364
@stubennett7364 3 года назад
Another awesome lesson never given it much thought but may help solve an issue I’m having.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Hope it works out
@robertvillegas7472
@robertvillegas7472 Месяц назад
Thanks Rodney ! Cheers 🤙🏾👍🏾
@driverbass1554
@driverbass1554 3 года назад
I've watched this a couple times this week, just haven't commented yet. I really, really appreciate this. You really laid this out well. I don't yet have a compressor, plan to as I'm able to. I really didn't understand compression. One time was playing with in-ears at a festival with multiple bassists using same rig. Someone had a severe hard crushing clamp down and it was absolutely horrible. Everything sounded the same no matter how hard or light I played. My bass was loud in the in ears till anyone else started playing then it vanished. I now have some knowledge on how to use and look forward to experimenting. Thank you so much. Awesome, awesome information I really needed.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Wow, that's sounds like a brutal gig! Really glad this came of use for you.
@driverbass1554
@driverbass1554 3 года назад
@@RodneyMcG well, the compressor was not on long 😉😂
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
😂
@driverbass1554
@driverbass1554 3 года назад
@@RodneyMcG so yes, I really appreciate the detail you went into. I knew these things had to be useful, I know some pretty spectacular things can be done with compression, but just had no idea how to use it's powers for good. Now I have a good foundation of information to apply to a compressor when I get it. Per your recommendation I now have the MXR on many wish lists! 😃👍
@rubenmedina326
@rubenmedina326 Год назад
Thanks Rodney for this tutorial , with so many efects , eqs etc. is hard to figure if you're not a sound savy but this is helpful to understand the combinations distortion / compressor thanks again .
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@MightyGodlikeG
@MightyGodlikeG 2 года назад
That was really insightful. I've been using a compressor for quite some time and understood the basic effect of it, but your explanation really showed how i can get the sound i'm aiming for. I have my bass signal running into my sansamp, then into the compressor and then into my odb3 overdrive, which i use if needed, but the distortion that comes out of it, always seemed fuzzy and muddy in the background. I'm gonna try out your tips and toy around with the compressor and look how it effects my sound in the end with and without distortion
@icepick3528
@icepick3528 3 года назад
This is exactly the tone ive been looking for. Subscribed!
@icepick3528
@icepick3528 3 года назад
So im gonna get the sansamp and what compressor do you suggest?
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
SOmething simple and agressive. Maybe the MXR 87
@icepick3528
@icepick3528 3 года назад
@@RodneyMcG i like mxr, got the old dimebag eq. Ok mxr it is, thanks buddy!
@cosmicanbu
@cosmicanbu 4 месяца назад
Awesomely explained, thank you so much!!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 4 месяца назад
Glad it was helpful!
@marks5s603
@marks5s603 3 года назад
Just wanted to jump in and say that your thumb placement segment from last week has been quite helpful. I use an old Boss CS-3 before my pedals but never thought about using compression at the end of my signal. I will be giving that a try. Thanks again!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Glad to hear it!
@EmanCarbone
@EmanCarbone 2 года назад
Yes, what Rodney is saying is very useful. Cascading compressors working in chain at subtler levels is also effective for studio and mixing applications, to manage gain reduction while preserving the "feel", rather than squashing the signal with just one. Since you're mentioning the CS-3: that pedal usually gets a lot of slack around (a bit like the ODB-3) as it is not the most balanced pedal with everything at noon, but it can be way more useful than many think. The thing with that pedal is that it has a VERY LOW, FIXED THRESHOLD, it tends to kick in pretty soon and limits a lot, often resulting in the pumping, breathing effect. To avoid this on bass, IMHO the best way is to keep the SUSTAIN knob almost at minimum, NOT HIGHER THAN 9 o'clock, and the ATTACK rather slow, at around 3 o'clock. It usually sounds ok when those knobs are "facing each other", 3 o'clock 9 o'clock. Another trick to cope with the low threshold is to turn the volume on the instrument down, but it gets noisier and is IMHO not needed for metal.
@TorqueTheRich
@TorqueTheRich Год назад
I never thought of compression at the end either. It's made a GINORMOUS difference in my output sound.
@AmilcarBaxo
@AmilcarBaxo 2 года назад
Greetings from Brazil! I was really in an endless doubt regarding the use of the compressor in this case of tone in distortions! I was even looking to change my distortion unit, now I'm going to rethink this! And go to the use of the compressor in this idea that you suggested! Thank you very much, and great job!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@fernfernacelli
@fernfernacelli 3 года назад
Great content. If I understand correctly, there are comps that are best for sustaining at certain settings, and some that are best for limiting at certain settings. I try to use the ‘sustaining’ type early in the chain to affect the playing dynamics, and the limiting type to keep the overall chain ‘predictable’ (especially when different effects come in to play; modulation can surprise you at certain settings!). Again, great content here!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Sounds like you have it down! Thanks for checking it out.
@JLeppert
@JLeppert Год назад
I will try this.
@timbennetts6482
@timbennetts6482 Год назад
OK.... so just tried this... you are a genius. Thank you
@BTHpodcast
@BTHpodcast 2 года назад
I think for the podcast to have bass guest. From huge to independent artist/bassist. Bass players have been labeled as the quiet guys but we have a lot to say 😆 . Us Metal bassists have been under looked. It amazing to have this media and content for Metal bassist! Thank you!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
We defintely want some in the future. Don't miss the interviews on the channel i've done with David Ellefson, Rudy Sarzo, and Jack Gibson
@BTHpodcast
@BTHpodcast 2 года назад
@@RodneyMcG Absolutely! Loved the one you did with Jack. Very underrated Bassist. Well done interview!
@seantierson2633
@seantierson2633 11 месяцев назад
Have a Sansamp RBI coming this weekend with an EBS multicomp. Definitely going to put this to use
@Andyanddiana467
@Andyanddiana467 3 года назад
Already I can say the answer is YES. Especially since some compressors (the Boss LMB-3, the MXR DynaComp Bass mini, Fairfield accountant) can even function as drive pedals if you set them aggressively enough.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Exactly, Andy. I think people really miss how crucial compression can be to your tone
@Mrmemphisbones
@Mrmemphisbones 3 года назад
I am really glad you mentioned LMB-3, cause its an overlooked pedal, and in my humble opinion probably the best compressor you can get for 50 bucks or less and use for a lifetime. Keep the enhance knob close to zero, and let it do the rest. I wonder why BOSS misnamed LMB-3 as a limiter, and ODB-3 as an overdrive. They both can offer MUCH more.
@RadityoPramAdi
@RadityoPramAdi 3 года назад
@@Mrmemphisbones +1 on the odb.. I found really weird setting, but it works for me very well...
@brianandrovic3897
@brianandrovic3897 Год назад
Another great video!!! McG does it again. They way you convey your information makes it very easy to understand. Simple and not in an elementary way. I would say in an intellectual way. Psychology major by chance?Lol. Content is presented in such a way that it effectively reaches more people. Very beneficial for nooks or anyone trying to pick up some good knowledge. I understand compression, threshold, attack, and release a lot better after watching this video. I like how you reinforce “know what you have and how to use it before discounting it”. You give a lot of sound advice, appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us. Thank you. I think I would be a little further down the road if I picked up on your videos when I first started a few years ago. You da man!! Onto the next video
@OzzArg
@OzzArg Год назад
Realy excelent!
@cuzOoba
@cuzOoba 2 года назад
This was really helpfully. Might actually buy a decent compressor now
@user-pp9vc4ov5l
@user-pp9vc4ov5l 3 месяца назад
Although I understood compression before watching this video, you have the BEST explanation of what a compressor really does, very clear, complete and without fluff. I hope anyone who tries to understand compression finds this video. Excellent job Rodney. I also like the clarification about compression/distortion, and the importance of compression IN and compression OUT. Thank you!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG Месяц назад
Great to hear!
@lindaj2k
@lindaj2k 3 месяца назад
Compressor at the end as well as the beginning... Best tone advice I have ever been given, thank you!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 месяца назад
Glad to help!
@aldermach6194
@aldermach6194 Год назад
I started doing this a while back. I have a 2 channel rack mount gate/limiter/compressor. The preamp on my bass is so hot and the pedals I like to use push so hard that any volume set over the drums just feeds back when not playing. I tried just using pedal compressors and gates but they never did the job. I did this more out of necessity to keep things quiet but as I played with it more I found I could get an extremely good consistent tone out of any distortion pedal. I honestly thought it was overkill at first but thanks for making me not look crazy
@georgemcredmond35
@georgemcredmond35 7 дней назад
I like metal, though I am not much of a metal player. But this video was the most relatable explanation of bass compression that I found. Glad it showed up as a recommendation.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 7 дней назад
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching
@theerectus2004
@theerectus2004 2 года назад
Thank you! I have learned something before buying gear. Been playing bass for 7 months.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
Great to hear!
@NikkieRoxxx
@NikkieRoxxx 2 года назад
Lost for words..... very very well explained and demo'ed!!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@NikkieRoxxx
@NikkieRoxxx 2 года назад
@@RodneyMcG glad i found you and your advices. You are a rare pearl of youtube :) thanks for the hard work you do putting these videos up!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
@@NikkieRoxxx Thanks for the kind words!
@philcore5205
@philcore5205 3 года назад
I discovered your channel some weeks ago and it is by far the best in detailed explanation regarding tone ! I learn a lot and is always an excitement getting something new from you. Regarding compression, now I know :) I was so frustrated not knowing how to get the tone we are all looking for. So I add here the generous man and teacher you are, as I haven't seen or heard so clear and detailed shared explanation about this topic until your video now. Now I have an issue: which compression pedal should I look for, as I don't have any now Cheers from France
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Greeting from the USA! I really appreciate the kind words, and i'm really glad the channel is helping you out. As far as pedals, I would try out a few demos and see what appeals to you. I would reccomend the MXR m87 for just a compressor, or myself, I use the AMT pangea Ultima. It is multi effects and cab sim, plus compressor if you want something that does more than compression in a small package. Good luck!
@RobertPletscher
@RobertPletscher Год назад
I'm using a tri band compressor as first and always on pedal. Never thought of a second compressor at the end, that's something I'll have to try. Thank you very much for this valuable input.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG Год назад
Really glad it helped
@Jagdpz5
@Jagdpz5 3 года назад
Instead of a second compressor I lower the tube gain a bit in my Svt3-pro to get some of that natural tube compression. Works great.
@davidRevrendOnibrown
@davidRevrendOnibrown Год назад
THANK YOU!!!!!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@anthonyelectric6045
@anthonyelectric6045 3 года назад
Geez man I better start paying attention. This video lesson is priceless 👍.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Ha! Glad you enjoyed it!
@anthonyelectric6045
@anthonyelectric6045 3 года назад
Your helping a lot of us with your intuitive videos. Definitely appreciate it
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Glad to be of service. Thanks for watching.
@petergetzoni8538
@petergetzoni8538 2 года назад
Definitely gotta take another look at my Mark Bass Compressore.been recently trying to dial a good clanky metal tone but like most been looking at my Dist. Time to start over
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
Clank. It's always hiding whre you least expect it!
@andylambeth5643
@andylambeth5643 3 года назад
My pedals go through to a preamp pedal, before hitting the amp head - the preamp pedals presence control adds all sorts of bite and detail to the distortion, sounds unbelievable compared to without! A bit of compression on the amp head levels it all out for me.
@aussieb1416
@aussieb1416 Год назад
where do you put it in?
@kickshaw6855
@kickshaw6855 3 года назад
Can't wait :-)
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
See ya soon!
@ciddax754
@ciddax754 3 года назад
Man, I would love to have seen that years ago. I use as an input compressor the HyperGravity from TC electronic. It is fairly cheap and is a three band compressor, where you can adjust the bands to your personal liking. In my low channel lives a compressor pedal called Forcefield from the same company. It is just a standard singleband compressor to squash the bass a little more. At the end of the chain, I have an overdrive pedal with a tube in it. The gain of that pedal is only just a tiny little bit above zero, but I found out, that pedal works as a limiter too. A limiter is a specialized compressor, that prevents your signal to go over a certain level. My old warwick solid state amp sounds phantastic, but does not like to be overdriven at all. - As a general rule, it's often better to use two compressors with low settings, then one with hefty ones.
@joeballs5669
@joeballs5669 3 года назад
I agree...some bass od pedals also compress little with LED's or Diodes so just a pinch of compression at the end of the signal chain is all that is needed. other wise you're tone is too fucking squashed !
@sudsysutherland359
@sudsysutherland359 3 года назад
I’m a huge fan of Peter Steele of Fallout,Carnivore & Type O Negative & I love Pete’s bass guitar sound on his “Type O Negative” albums especially on the album,”World Coming Down” & the “Life Is Killing Me” album especially \m/
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Add some Chorus for top-end brightness and Shimmer, and you can nail the later Type O sound
@radwarriortv
@radwarriortv Год назад
Dude this is Thee tone. Such a crushing bass tone, absolutely legendary
@micahdoublestein388
@micahdoublestein388 18 дней назад
Finally! Someone breaking it down. I've watched this video about 8-10x. I'm so much closer to the tone I've been hearing in my head for so long. I don't have the 2nd compressor for the output... yet. I've been tweaking the input compressor, EQ, drive, and blend. It's getting sooo close. I think just a little compression on the back side could lock it in.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 18 дней назад
Awesome! Glad I could help. Go get it!
@kevmac1230
@kevmac1230 2 года назад
You make great content Rodney. Wish you were there in my salad days.This is an excellent lesson on a subject that is misunderstood but important.👍
@Farewelltokingz
@Farewelltokingz Год назад
Very helpful video! Good thing I got a compressor out of pure impulse a while back. I haven't used my compressor in a very intense way, I'll give it a shot! Either way you just earned yourself a new subscriber.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG Год назад
Much appreciated for the sub!
@Suelo82
@Suelo82 Год назад
Damn, what a cool room.
@corychang3901
@corychang3901 2 года назад
Thank you so much for this! Do you have any tips for compression when you use both a pedal for drive and a distortion channel (not at the same time) on the bass amp?
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
No real rules. I would start with low settings on all of them and then increase each by itself and see what effect each drive adds to the tone. Then mix to taste.
@ileutur6863
@ileutur6863 3 года назад
Sounds like a problem I solved the moment I started using darkglass. Note definition is all there, I haven't touched the settings in 2 years and I fit into every mix
@RadityoPramAdi
@RadityoPramAdi 3 года назад
can you tell me the settings...
@ileutur6863
@ileutur6863 3 года назад
@@RadityoPramAdi No cause what works for me won't work for everybody. Experiment and have fun!
@vexideon4695
@vexideon4695 2 года назад
THIS IS THE REALEST COMMENT, yes exactly!
@tgdb4968
@tgdb4968 2 года назад
What Darkglass do you have?
@smachband
@smachband 2 года назад
@@tgdb4968 I'm pretty sure he is talking about B3k or B7k
@chrisparker5278
@chrisparker5278 9 месяцев назад
Two compressors here too. Now I need to learn to dial in compression properly
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 9 месяцев назад
It can definitely take a bit of tweaking, but once you get it it's all good. good luck
@chandude3
@chandude3 3 года назад
I have an m87 compressor and a darkglass omnicron alpha omega, ive yet to use them both simultaneously for some reason. But im much newer to pedals and such. Thx for the tips im def going to be experimenting when i get off work
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Good choice. The m87 has some real grind to it when you push it. I think you'll like the results.
@chandude3
@chandude3 3 года назад
@@RodneyMcG at first i was having trouble getting it to pickup any input for the threshold to kick in, raising the pickups did the trick. Now since i dont have two compressors, do you figure i put the compressor before the distortion pedal or after? I have an m87 and the darkglass omnicron and a big muff that i bought thinking id like it, but the big muff just muddys everything too much so i never use it.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
I would put it first in a smaller setup
@Tsudkyk
@Tsudkyk 2 года назад
I found that it’s not how high the gain knob is cranked, but it’s about finding the right amount of gain at each stage of gain. Rather than cramming all of the gain from the preamp, I like to send a my signal into the amp slightly compressed with a touch of gain. This seems to push my pre amp into a nice textured overdrive. When I crank the power stage the low end becomes tight and precise. I guess my point is, don’t rely on one link in your chain to achieve your tone- find a good balance with the right gear. Experiment and enjoy the experimentation. It’s all about having fun!
@coveryourears3851
@coveryourears3851 Год назад
I’m finding this to be the case with my rig, multiple gain stages with each just adding a little bit into my amp gain set at 9 o’clock. Not mushy, just deep enough and tight, love it.
@svtbass
@svtbass 3 года назад
Great Tutorial.. I am always messing with my attack and release on a Keeley Comp Pro and my Rack unit or PC plugins. I spend too much time doing so. LOL Parallel Type has helped me with that delema.. I was on a major label session in NYC many years ago at the old Hit Factory. The engineer did Parallel comp on my bass. I had no idea what that was back then. But it sounded FAT, HUGE, retained the dynamics and punch.. It later got the street name of New York Compression.. I think Seymour Duncan makes a pedal that does that but Dark Glass and Cali 76 may have much more control.. May not be OK for metal though.. But then maybe it could..
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Everything is ok for metal! You do you😉
@trevorthomas553
@trevorthomas553 3 года назад
Great video Rodney well explained, I do have a question when the lights on the MXR87 change color near the end does this mean it's when the actual compression kicks in??
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Can't help on that one, haven't used one in a long time. I'm sure it's covered in the manual or a demo
@MrReplica77
@MrReplica77 3 года назад
Normally in my set up my bass head is an SWR workingmans 4004 along with the darkglass micro tubes b7k. The single stompbox not the dual lol. And even though It’s been on my radar, it’s I just didn’t wanna dive into it without doing some homework and well I came across this video and amazing job on breaking everything down. What brands/ pedals would u recommend?
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
It really depends on what type of sound you're after. The MXR 87 seems to be p[oular. I use the one inside my AMT Pangea as well as the Source Audio Ultrawave.
@kristofkolosnagy9152
@kristofkolosnagy9152 7 месяцев назад
I was good with full on distortion, but when coming to a clanky tone with a mild drive on it a compressor before the drive didn't do it, the high strings were just too snappy and loud, especially when doing popping. Compressor at the end of the chain is a game changer, thanks!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 7 месяцев назад
Glad it worked for you!
@JS-vh4yq
@JS-vh4yq 3 месяца назад
Good video. Showing the actual signal chain would have made it great. Cheers.
@toninice6876
@toninice6876 3 месяца назад
I have a multiband comp in the fix Loop of my preamp. Its the holy grail. Can‘t remove it.
@misapproprationofconscious9236
@misapproprationofconscious9236 3 года назад
Switching the eq to before my compression fixed my tapping. I switched it to before eq when started using a compressior instead of a limiter and now I am wondering if the limiter would serve some purpose as a second compression at the end of the chain or if it would be to much compression.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
You'll only know by trying. I would use a limiter in it's lighter settings
@rajeshhkkapoor8549
@rajeshhkkapoor8549 Год назад
Also do you think if we use two compressors,one at the start (after the tuner) and one before the bass processor or at the end of the chain???
@ikestoddard2458
@ikestoddard2458 3 года назад
Your podcast sounds like fun! Make sure you review a pedal a month, if possible !
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
If I can get someone to send out one a month, it's a deal!
@lashamikautadze2997
@lashamikautadze2997 3 месяца назад
Accidentally found this hidden gem of youtube! What an explanation man, thank you! ❤ the sound is frraking alive! Just have one question: which is better for 2nd compressor before the preamp or after the preamp?
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 месяца назад
After the preamp will give you the best control
@stevenhirsekorn3444
@stevenhirsekorn3444 3 года назад
I've been using a joyo copy of the mxr super comp for a while now, it was 50$ after shipping and 2 patch cables it is tremendous sounding.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Tough to beat that deal
@stevenhirsekorn3444
@stevenhirsekorn3444 3 года назад
@@RodneyMcG it was a no Brainer and it has been an integral part of my rig ever since.
@StephenBecker
@StephenBecker 3 года назад
I've been doing this for a while with a cheap Joyo compressor to slam the front end of my SH-1 to get a really aggressive tone. Thinking about getting a more tweakable/capable pedal though. Been eyeballing an MXR M87...
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Solid choice.
@SeverinoSE
@SeverinoSE Год назад
So helpful! I have a question about compressors on pedalboards, please. You mentioned that you add a second compressor after EQ to even out the sound after it is EQ'd. Does that apply only in a DAW or on pedalboards, too? Because, generally speaking, it is not advised to put a compressor after EQ on a pedalboard because it would produce noise. So, at the moment, I only have one compressor pedal on my pedalboard before EQ. Thanks and keep it up!
@mrvsbhs
@mrvsbhs Год назад
I have the MXR bass compressor. Anyone have any settings that work for this tone?
@diskovolos
@diskovolos 3 года назад
Totally agree with you. I use a TC Electronics SpectraComp to tighten and boost my signal before going into the OD pedal. This combination sounds so much better than just the OD. Even though I totally understand you point of view, 2 compressors would take up too much pedalboard real estate , so I settle with just one.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
I get that totally. The advantage I have is that I use the AMT Pangea that has a compressor in it as well as my EQ, speaker Sim, and a number of other effects and it's probably the tiniest pedal I've ever owned! So I actually save space and have a second compressor built in
@chrispchrist8074
@chrispchrist8074 3 года назад
@@RodneyMcG ok cool, I was going to ask how to add compression after my Darkglass ultra with DI out, and I love it’s cab sims. Sounds like I either have to stick with that set up (sounds pretty good) or add the Pangea after and use it’s stuff, but does it have a DI out or would I have to get a standalone DI box last in the chain?
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
@@chrispchrist8074 It can do balanced trs out, so it can do DI
@chrispchrist8074
@chrispchrist8074 3 года назад
@@RodneyMcG oh right! I totally forgot about that approach...is there any real audio difference between a balanced trs cable and an XLR into a board or PA head?
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
@@chrispchrist8074 None at all
@andrewbuddemeyer8432
@andrewbuddemeyer8432 8 месяцев назад
I use a Trace Elliot Dual Comp from the 90's, it's killer🤘
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 8 месяцев назад
Those were great
@raphaelcote3577
@raphaelcote3577 7 месяцев назад
Very informative video that a lot of guys miss indeed! I was wondering, what are the settings you use on your compressor to add some attack/grind?
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 7 месяцев назад
It depends on how hot my pickups are and the specific compressor, but I find i don't hve to go past 6:1 most times to get a decent crunch happening. If you really want it crushed, just dial it all the way until it's basically a limiter. No dynamics, but lots of grind.
@mrmatthew2443
@mrmatthew2443 Год назад
Maybe the best explanation of compression and the different parameters , ratio , attack , release etc. … I also live the different scenarios you lay out A comp in the beginning of the chain and one at the end !! Don’t hear of this very often Just beware that any recording engineer or soundboard guy will compress us so that would count as the second comp at the end of our signal.. Very cool , thanks More clip on getting distortion and overdrive and how to use compression with and where with distortion pedals or an amp that got distortion or overdrive Thanks thanks thank you
@EnsBass
@EnsBass 3 года назад
I´m usually pretty satisfied with my own bass sound (and my bands are too ;-) ) but this video really made me rethink and reorganize my pedalboard. Spoiler: It made my sound even better :-D Thanks a lot! \m/
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Glad you got something from it!
@ApeDosMil_
@ApeDosMil_ 2 года назад
Any advice on what I’m currently running..I actually run a PJ w/ GZR butler pickups, usually going thru a boss tuner/mxr bass comp/mxr bass di/EHX Small clone/ and a decimator… love to hear your thoughts
@ApeDosMil_
@ApeDosMil_ 2 года назад
looking for that snarl you talk about
@thorazine86
@thorazine86 3 года назад
Great video Rodney! I use a compressor in the beggining of my chain just before the distortion and preamp...then i compress on my DAW when recording. In live gigs i let my amp do naturally the work of compression/distortion using the same signal chain. PS: is there a video where you showcase your Schecter 4 string double P? i'm in love with that beast!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
Not specifically, but i think i used it for a good bit in my Tech21 DP-3x demo.
@tommygibson9515
@tommygibson9515 3 года назад
Awesome content.. would have been really good to have an example of an after eq example of turning the compressor on and of to hear the difference,, in terms of what you were saying about using two compressors
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
More to come on that topic!
@coreywoodruff490
@coreywoodruff490 Год назад
It may be odd but I use two DI pedals. The sans amp v1 and an Eden wtdi. I usually loop them threw the head. After watching this I wanna try plugging my bass into the eden into the amp and then looping the sans amp in my head.
@salstalteri2676
@salstalteri2676 2 года назад
What model compressor did you use?
@xbassfiendx
@xbassfiendx Год назад
What do you think about the darkglass hyper luminal? Looking for a compressor but don’t know what to get? Running a sansamp but when i get to the higher notes I get drowned out at practice.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG Год назад
Haven't tried the dark glass, so can't comment on that. If you want something that can get really aggressive I would maybe try the mxr m80
@markusorth5450
@markusorth5450 3 года назад
The artwork on your monitor looks like a version of La Belle Dame Sans Merci, or at least someone whose painted a version of that.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
It's the Lady of Shallot, John William Waterhouse
@M.Holland
@M.Holland 2 года назад
Hey Rodney! :-) thanks for that video! realy interesting! But I have on question: Where did you place the second comp? I also have a Sansamp. Its my main amp on stage, going direct to FOH. Would you recomend a Comp after the Sansamp straight in to another DI box? or just before the Sansamp? My current Metal Pedalboard is: Tuner, Hyperluminal Comp, Way Huge Pork&Pickle in to said Sansamp. The Distortion is mainly used as a boost.
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
You sound want it at the end of the chain after all EQ is done.
@CarlosGarcia-bu7pq
@CarlosGarcia-bu7pq 2 года назад
Do you need two compression pedals if your using an amp like an orange 4 stroke that has a compression knob already ? Yes planning on using an eq pedal that’s why I ask .. thanks !
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
You could use that for sure, but I would find out where in the signal chain the compressor is so you can place your other in a different location. 2 compressors at the beginning or end will be overkill.
@TomMarello
@TomMarello 3 года назад
I also use two compressors placed at the beginning and at the end of a signal chain and it works great!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 3 года назад
It's the sandwich of beast tone!
@stonygrantham4681
@stonygrantham4681 2 года назад
@@RodneyMcG end of sig chain? so go to my poweramp AND FOH out of the 2nd comp?? no one explains this one. love all your doin Mr. Rod!!
@RodneyMcG
@RodneyMcG 2 года назад
@@stonygrantham4681 Correct! Glad you're enjoying the show.
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