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💧💎 The Value Of Things - How Do We Determine It? 

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How do we determine the value of things? How to explain the "water and diamonds paradox"? The law of diminishing marginal utility gives us an answer! Learn Austrian Economics in a fun way!
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Комментарии : 91   
@lidarman2
@lidarman2 6 лет назад
I think we all want to experience 'diminishing marginal utility' regarding money. :P
@Max-nc4zn
@Max-nc4zn 4 года назад
So to speak.
@obviouslykaleb7998
@obviouslykaleb7998 4 года назад
Max He means to have so much money it seems less important.
@ilham1634
@ilham1634 4 года назад
u mean inflation
@McRyach
@McRyach 4 года назад
In United States you need to make ~$85,000 to experience that. Delta the current loans and geographic location. You will experience diminishing marginal utility when you earn income satisfying three basic levels of Maslow's pyramid. Once you have that security you will work to develop self esteem and actualization. The vicious cycle is that to earn such income you starting from lucrative occupation by definition. So you esteem and actualization will direct you in the path you're familiar with (of making more stuff that yields money)
@sus6788
@sus6788 3 года назад
@@ilham1634 LOOOL SMART ONE
@KiyosakiSays
@KiyosakiSays Год назад
Money is not the goal. Money has no value. The value comes from the dreams money helps achieve.” - Robert Kiyosaki
@samuelmoraes2673
@samuelmoraes2673 Год назад
I honestly think this is the most underrated video on RU-vid!
@abhinavitsmebellamy
@abhinavitsmebellamy 4 года назад
Thank you, for this. Really well explained!!
@rolesk8
@rolesk8 6 лет назад
why renarrated? I saw the original video and is really good, don't be ashamed man you do an excellent job :) greetings from Mexico
@EconClips
@EconClips 6 лет назад
Thanks:) It's not shame, it's just respect for our viewers ears:) It's better with native speaker.
@OHAHAHO007
@OHAHAHO007 6 лет назад
Great job!
@j.d.4697
@j.d.4697 3 года назад
Forget the apples and pears comparison, I wanna know where you can go for a walk and end up a farm owner!
@program4215
@program4215 2 года назад
Basically anytime before the 20th century. The further back in time you go the less far you have to walk for vast swathes of free land.
@mikesaunders8411
@mikesaunders8411 4 года назад
seems related to maslows hierarchy of needs...splendid and thought provoking...me gusto !
@tpens13
@tpens13 26 дней назад
Thank you for this ❤
@skiddykun4552
@skiddykun4552 3 года назад
Suppose that you were sitting down at a table. The napkins are in front of you, which napkin would you take? The one on your ‘left’? Or the one on your ‘right’? The one on your left side? Or the one on your right side? Usually you would take the one on your left side. That is ‘correct’ too. But in a larger sense on society, that is wrong. Perhaps I could even substitute ‘society’ with the ‘Universe’. The correct answer is that ‘It is determined by the one who takes his or her own napkin first.’ …Yes? If the first one takes the napkin to their right, then there’s no choice but for others to also take the ‘right’ napkin. The same goes for the left. Everyone else will take the napkin to their left, because they have no other option. This is ‘society’… Who are the ones that determine the price of land first? There must have been someone who determined the value of money, first. The size of the rails on a train track? The magnitude of electricity? Laws and Regulations? Who was the first to determine these things? Did we all do it, because this is a Republic? Or was it Arbitrary? NO! The one who took the napkin first determined all of these things! The rules of this world are determined by that same principle of ‘right or left?’! In a Society like this table, a state of equilibrium, once one makes the first move, everyone must follow! In every era, this World has been operating by this napkin principle. And the one who ‘takes the napkin first’ must be someone who is respected by all. It’s not that anyone can fulfill this role… Those that are despotic or unworthy will be scorned. And those are the ‘losers’. In the case of this table, the ‘eldest’ or the ‘Master of the party’ will take the napkin first… Because everyone ‘respects’ those individuals.
@dgkp4773
@dgkp4773 3 года назад
P....Pre...President Valentine??
@dennisfranklin12345
@dennisfranklin12345 2 года назад
Good concept video
@technodestination4763
@technodestination4763 6 лет назад
0 dislikes This tells everything Great Job man
@isaacteyssier5198
@isaacteyssier5198 3 года назад
This is EXACTLY what I needed to hear, tks man.
@deepakpoojary6588
@deepakpoojary6588 5 лет назад
Wow super
@chonkofarms3801
@chonkofarms3801 4 года назад
What is the background music
@musaran2
@musaran2 6 лет назад
Those are basic topics. But then, too many people seem to forget those fundamentals.
@RealGame101
@RealGame101 3 года назад
True. Too many people take notice of perceived value
@Izr6ael_
@Izr6ael_ 11 месяцев назад
Seems like something you need to learn, I mean I thought about it
@marchordie1
@marchordie1 3 года назад
I live in a city and there is no freely available apples here. And since I don't set the cost of bought apples, where does the value come from? Why are some apples more expensive than others?
@williamsawyer7993
@williamsawyer7993 Год назад
The value comes from the fact that many people want apples. Apples are a staple of grocery stores in the west BECAUSE we assign such great value to it even as an often leisure food. If people suddenly stopped wanting to eat apples, it can be assumed that there are other means by which they can satisfy for their hunger, so the value would drop simply because demand is lost for whatever reason. The reason why some apples are more expensive relative to a normal apple is because their value is determined by the people who would desire a less common apple in the first place. In other words, what's virtually the same product may have a wildly greater price because their value will forever be determined by people who DESIRE that specific product for whatever reason, in which case it is given that their desire have surpassed their needs and the product operates as some form of a luxury.
@ozzyfromspace
@ozzyfromspace 4 года назад
The thing that really confuses me is the thermodynamic energy that goes into producing something. Like Lithium is one of the rarest elements in the universe, despite being reasonably plentiful on Earth. It's really hard to produce from nuclear reactions. Yet it costs far less per kilogram than gold. Could it be that humans don't have the right framework for valuing things? Am I overthinking this? Your input is well appreciated.
@stevenmiller2820
@stevenmiller2820 4 года назад
Float Circuit, Gold is more longed for than Lithium by more people, therefore people are more likely to pay more money for Gold per unit than Lithium. It’s like the commodity side of the stock market; if the demand for Lithium goes up for whatever reason, the price will go up. In this current crisis we can see the demand of 5.56 ammo go up as more people are willing to pay more for a product that last month was not sought after as much. Same with hand sanitizers, 3M masks, and TP.
@flower5175
@flower5175 2 года назад
lithium didnt look shiny! it's not the function that matters but the aesthetic!
@thealmightyaku-4153
@thealmightyaku-4153 2 года назад
Gold is actually far, far rarer than lithium, both in the universe and on Earth - about 18,000 times rarer in Earth's crust. Gold is also very pretty with a quite unique and pleasant natural colour, and it's easy to work with and doesn't get less beautiful with time (unlike silver which tarnishes), so you can make very nice looking, long-lasting things that are also easy to clean out of it easily; and especially, somewhere along the line someone realised that gold is a good material to make money out of. It also has other uses, but you see: it's rare, and in huge demand, which means people are willing to exchange a great deal of value to get it. Lithium is more common, but until recently hasn't had uses anywhere as 'important', or at least as widespread and common, to mankind - mostly because we didn't know it existed until 1817, whereas gold has been known and used since before writing was invented. But as more uses are found for it, like medicine and battery technology, we require it more and more, and its price has risen; and later on in the future when it becomes an important fuel for nuclear fusion, it will become even more valuable; but because it is so abundant, it will still be much cheaper.
@1987andragon
@1987andragon 4 года назад
Value is measured by a Perception.
@Caesq_r
@Caesq_r Год назад
If everything's value is personally determined, why do we assign the same monetary cost for every object, such as apples? Ex. a hungry man values an apple at 100$, but a well-fed fellow only values it at 0.50$. Though both need to pay 1$ for it.
@Ray-hs2nx
@Ray-hs2nx 3 месяца назад
It is a agreed price between consumer and the seller between two of them hold different value
@boshiko3587
@boshiko3587 4 года назад
Same thing as passion at crush ? If you get them , you may not like them much as before ...
@lampard98jr
@lampard98jr 5 лет назад
Will this be a good argument for progressive income tax? why/why not?
@flower5175
@flower5175 2 года назад
meanwhile the next neighbors join in sayin, eating apple could make you healthier than eating pear! now one apple is worth 3 pears
@idnm2006
@idnm2006 Год назад
wow
@MengerMania
@MengerMania 3 года назад
What you describe is really a cessation of wants not marginal utility. Marginal utility occurs when given the choice of several individual apples simultaneously ( at the same time). If you're offered 10 individual apples, the 10th apple has less utility than each of the other 9 apples in the present and not in the future. Apples offered after the first has been consumed represent a different set of choices and values. You make an accurate hint at the subjective nature of value, but you need to research the concept of marginal utility.
@SwampyPanda3
@SwampyPanda3 Год назад
No he's right. It's not simultaneous. I've read it in school
@MengerMania
@MengerMania Год назад
@@SwampyPanda3 What does this mean? Becasue you read it in school makes it "right?"
@Sultan-cf5wf
@Sultan-cf5wf 4 года назад
through the austrian method, of coursh.
@cwspartan
@cwspartan 6 лет назад
Is there anything exempt from law of diminishing utility?
@matrixman8582
@matrixman8582 5 лет назад
Contentment
@mikesaunders8411
@mikesaunders8411 4 года назад
power lust for power is inexhaustible its never satisfied you hunger for more - former president from asia
@unitedstateser
@unitedstateser 5 лет назад
Can he explain why income inequality is inherently bad, if it happens when everyone is getting richer? Robert Reich never did during his entire documentary. I suspect Krugman won't either.
@0fficerpimp
@0fficerpimp 3 года назад
You actually listen to that idoit
@ryanstucke7811
@ryanstucke7811 4 года назад
We want what we don’t have
@davidchristian8473
@davidchristian8473 3 года назад
So simple explained that even communists should understand it. Greeting from Br.
@rainerlippert
@rainerlippert 3 года назад
Thanks for the video! But like the presentation, the content is also: Very simple, too simple! The value cannot be reduced to a marginal utility. It is true that the value varies - there is no intrinsic value. However, the content of this video cannot explain why the value that is calculated for a new small car is usually (not always) lower than the value that is calculated for a medium-sized car. This representation cannot explain why the value that is usually formed per concert ticket for artist A is 10 times higher than the value that is formed per concert ticket for artist B. Value is a social relationship that is formed between people and only works between people. The goods and their value equivalent are only reference points for such a relationship. People form a value relationship for the exchange of goods for value equivalents. Usually, there are initially different views “on the values” of goods and value equivalents at the two exchange partners. Only when both exchange partners agree on a common value, which is expressed in the sales or purchase price (in dialogue or through unilateral adjustment), and then the needs for the exchange are still strong enough for both they carry out the exchange finally - exchanged equivalent in value. Usually, with the exchange, the expenses of the supplier for providing the goods have to be reimbursed and an surplus value that appears sufficient to him has to be paid for. In Marx, the expenditures with c + v (proportional constant capital such as machines, raw materials) + variable capital - the proportional values of the labor force, i.e. the proportional values of their means of existence), the surplus value with s. With Marx, however, this affects the production side, which cannot be right (products that cannot be sold would then have “value”). It can be added here that value as a social relationship cannot be produced at all. Only possible reference points for possible value relationships are produced. The value is formed on the market and assigned there to the goods and the value equivalent. In individual cases, a value that deviates from the usual can also be formed on the basis of needs that differ from the usual needs. However, this can only be done to a limited extent for the reproduction of goods to which value is to be related. On average, the expenses must be reimbursed and an surplus value that appears to be sufficient must be paid if the provider does not want to give up.
@victorvaz3693
@victorvaz3693 Год назад
You are right, indeed. Also, the video explains value for a single-use product, not a compound service like you're describing. Sure if such a product like a car (which involves hundreds of additional factors, unlike apples and pears) would be used as example, then the video would be longer, but this doesn't mean it's not already complete. You can just branch the concept to the variety of products and services required to build this one product and the areas in which it influences, and this simple (but curious) concept is still in its core.
@rainerlippert
@rainerlippert Год назад
@@victorvaz3693 Thanks very much! From my point of view, it is not important whether the creation of value is related to the sale of a car or to the sale of apples. The principle is always the same. * Value is a social relationship The Austrian School explains the value only subjectively. But value is a social relationship. Such is formed between people, the value concretely between exchange partners on the market. There is no value in objects, nor between people and objects. It only exists between people! * The objective part of the value A social relationship must have an objective part, because it goes beyond a single individual and acts on the social level between two, namely the exchange partners. This objective share of value is the common value that the exchange partners agree on for the exchange. At the bazaar they come to an agreement in dialogue, in the department store through the unilateral adaptation of the buyer to the seller's specifications. If they cannot agree on a common value, there will be no exchange - the purchase contract / invoice cannot contain a sales price and a different purchase price. * The subjective part of the value But a social relationship must also contain subjective elements. These are the subjective reflections of the objective magnitude of value in both exchange partners. Before the exchange, these are usually of different sizes. The common value is thus formed with the help of subjective values. During or after the exchange, the exchange partners can also have subjective values about the goods and the value equivalent (money). But these are not part of the value relationship, they are one-sided and therefore not socially relevant in the sense of value. * The value will be initiated by weighted needs The fact that there is any exchange at all is caused by the weighted needs of the exchange partners, which direct them towards the goods to be exchanged. * Another objective fact relating to the value What applies to the car manufacturer and the apple grower in the same way - they have costs. Marx parameterized these as c and v and placed them in his value formula: W = c + v + m. W value c constant capital (raw materials, buildings, with Marx machines, electricity, with farmers land, fertilizers, water, insect control etc.9 v variable capital, with Marx the cost of human labor s surplus value In Marx, value is formed in this way on the production side of commodity society. But there is still no surplus value on the production side. The buyer has to pay for it on the market. Since the surplus value is part of the value, one can deduce from this, among other things, that the value is formed on the market and is assigned there both to the goods and to the value equivalent. What the Austrian School does not mention is the fact that the production of apples, cars, etc. must on average take place in such a way that the entrepreneur / farmer gets his costs c + v fully reimbursed with the sale of the products and an surplus value that he considers sufficient to. With other words the formation of values usually must take place in exactly this way. But it cannot be deduced from this that it also takes place in this way. It may be that the entrepreneur / farmer succeeds in getting the costs reimbursed with the sale of the products, but no surplus value. It may even be that he does not even get his costs reimbursed in full. Value formation is not based directly on work, as Marx put it. However, it is also not purely subjective, as the Austrian School has it (marginal utility theory). The value corresponds to the recognition of expenses. This can be shown with Marx's value formula, if one corrects the incorrect description of value formation presented above and specifies the value formula for the production side of commodity society (expected value) and also for the market (real value).
@davidsarup3245
@davidsarup3245 8 месяцев назад
That counts for humans as well, sort of. If you meet too many people that thinks the same way, you will avoid them and try to find others, just like eating too much apple. Or that is partly the reason why hobbies are more interesting than school. In school you are forced to "eat" the same form of knowledge, and in hobbies you can shift themes and learning methods as much as you want.
@jasonhowell7102
@jasonhowell7102 2 года назад
Wait they had diamonds during Aristotle time? Just curious
@thealmightyaku-4153
@thealmightyaku-4153 2 года назад
They had diamonds long, long before him. In Greek they were called "adamas" - "unbreakble" - from which we get the words "adamant/adamantine", but also "diamond" itself. Diamonds occur naturally, and in some places they can be found lying around in streams, and were most abundant in India, from where they had been imported for thousands of years before his time.
@JJs_playground
@JJs_playground 3 года назад
The funny thing, diamonds are not rare. And in fact can be created in abundance in a lab.
@bangdat9373
@bangdat9373 Год назад
Lab grown diamonds are cheap, but can be found overpriced at small jewelers.😢
@Masfugo
@Masfugo 5 лет назад
Is diamond even exist in aristotle era?
@BuyTheDip627
@BuyTheDip627 5 лет назад
Were diamonds even in existence during Aristotle's era?*
@adorablecheetah2930
@adorablecheetah2930 5 лет назад
@@BuyTheDip627 or ... Did diamonds even exist in Aristotle's era
@obviouslykaleb7998
@obviouslykaleb7998 4 года назад
No guys, clearly he meant “has diamond not be in eristotle age.”
@Masfugo
@Masfugo 4 года назад
no I mean diamon't
@1wun1
@1wun1 4 года назад
"Don't believe everything that is on the internet" abraham Lincoln
@marunio435
@marunio435 2 года назад
So do you really think that in ancient times people didn't know the rarity of goods? Seems preety weird for me.
@kemalsoylukal9911
@kemalsoylukal9911 Год назад
You know what is valuable , ?you and your loved ones , knowledge, science, and People with good hearth and lntentions
@Ronni3no2
@Ronni3no2 3 года назад
"LAW"
@joseornelas1718
@joseornelas1718 3 года назад
22 apple lovers hating on pears.
@bashaarsaadeh
@bashaarsaadeh 2 года назад
Tell this to NFT’s
@generalsales8802
@generalsales8802 4 года назад
Value is determined by the value people give them. Gee thanks 😂🤣😂😋😂
@generalsales8802
@generalsales8802 4 года назад
I guess my next question is how to make things more or less valuable in peoples eyes.
@thealmightyaku-4153
@thealmightyaku-4153 2 года назад
Yes. It's all arbitrary and relative, but it's measurable by looking at what people are willing to exchange for things. If someone exchanges 5 apples for 7 pears, then we can say an apple is worth 5 sevenths of a pear. We use money to abstract this: a universal way of saying what everything is worth relative to everything or anything else, by basically inventing a unit of currency, and saying that all the things available to exchange with it are worth some arbitrary large number of these units. You can change value, increase it or decrease it, by changing abundance and want. If a thing becomes more common, or people want it less, people will be less willing to exchange much to get hold of it - it gets cheaper. If a thing becomes less common, or people want it more, they'll be willing to part with and hand over much more to have it for themselves - it gets more expensive. So you makes things cheaper or costlier by increasing or decreasing the amount available - or by influencing how people feel about it. The advertising industry, for example, exists nowadays entirely to influence how much we want something, using psychological tricks and techniques to make us think we want what someone is selling. Convince someone think a thing will improve their life, or is rare, and people will want it more than they would otherwise. Tell someone something is actually of low quality, or very common, or will reflect badly on them, and they'll tend to want it less. If they want it less, they'll exchange less for it - and so the price is lowered.
@bangdat9373
@bangdat9373 Год назад
That last one was false, rich people are the tightest people I know.😢
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Год назад
Only for envious people.
@rizzorepulsive7704
@rizzorepulsive7704 3 года назад
did Aristotle really say that? did the greeks give a fuck about diamonds?
@mediaiweb
@mediaiweb 4 года назад
Hmm thats where ebay came in
@kristalmacleod3215
@kristalmacleod3215 3 года назад
MY g-daughter
@taigamori5797
@taigamori5797 6 лет назад
sorry dont like school
@DefineDeft
@DefineDeft 2 года назад
I feel like you need a lot of money because its the only way to live these days...
@TheaDragonSpirit
@TheaDragonSpirit 6 лет назад
Fiat money = Bitcoin. In the sense that people decide how much there is. When currency isn't linked in to the overall value of everything, how much things cost is pretty much determined by people. I think long term money will be pointless once people find ways to make products more available and use better strategies to develop products. Based on a video on how fiat money works, what I heard is they want people to have just enough to live, but not so much that they stop working. Sounds a little like slavery to me. I get it people need to do things to keep things moving forward and to give some people a reason to keep helping out. But unless we aim to get to a place where a system like this isn't needed, then I think a whole new system of distribution is needed. What I mean is we should be aiming to create a world where people don't have to work so hard or even at all and the world keeps moving forward just fine. So more technology to replace simple jobs, and more giving goods to the poor and needy. Pay people for the data you collect from data mining, and observing the patterns people have, as in if someone plays a game or watches a TV show, or what ever they're taking time to give feed back and spread information about this, they are doing advertising to an extent. So people should get something back from simply taking part in society and respecting society, rather than just been expected to respect society. So basically people get products and goods or right now an universal income for being a good sport as it where, encouragement to want to help society, not just expecting people to do this.
@sombrerero887
@sombrerero887 5 лет назад
I agree in the intention but I don't think that the solution lies in technology. In the present many countries already the technical capability (e.g. there are more houses than homeless, programmed obsolescence and artificial scarcity is a common practice) to cover the basic needs of their citizens but don't do it because it is not beneficial to the state and the owners of most of the wealth and means of production. I'll try to explain this next. (An example of this is written in 1984) Imagine that everyone have it's basic goods covered ¿Who would be a janitor or why would anyone want to work? Your system would collapse. Therefore our current economic system requires poverty and inequality. Also a technological development would increase the material wealth available but it doesn't automatically transition to an equal distribution of that wealth, instead it usually creates unemployment. (I have heard that this causes the emergence of other industries which covers that lack of jobs, but there is always an excess of workers (otherwise wages would be too high) and that makes me doubt that the absolute quantity of unemployed people would diminish). I agree that a more equitable society would be desirable even your first statement that money is an arbitrary thing that exists by pure pragmatism. However I don't think that the society you talk about will be achieved with machines but with politics (for lack of a better word). P.D. If u don't think that machines will make the societal change by themselves I apologise but I just wanted to give my opinion on the matter. Some empiric things I said aren't cited. If you need the citation I will send them but I couldn't in the moment I wrote this. Have a good day.
@sombrerero887
@sombrerero887 5 лет назад
Also I know that the stablishment of that kind of programs wouldn't be profitable but the societal and moral good it has would outweigh it's cost (such as the police, basic infrastructure, etc).
@boshiko3587
@boshiko3587 4 года назад
Wew nice write but , i still dont know much about it
@thealmightyaku-4153
@thealmightyaku-4153 2 года назад
I believe money should be grounded in something concrete, and therefore ought to be based on energy. Not an energetic process, or an energy source, but energy itself - kilojoules, say. One could exchange currency that is backed by the total kilojoules available to be utilised in civilisation, not only in generating capacity of power plants or whatever, but also in the 'embodied energy' of goods and available labour power measured in kilojoules of the labour force; and thus, since literally everything has an objective amount of energy needed to produce or preserve or provide it, you will have exchanged a true, objective measured fraction of the total goods and services, the total value, available. All that would be required would be a periodic stocktaking of that energy available.
@yaraneamat271
@yaraneamat271 2 года назад
That’s not value that’s pricing
@Chris-cd9se
@Chris-cd9se Год назад
This video would have been better if the distracting gratuitous noise (music) had been omitted.
@nickmartin3647
@nickmartin3647 2 года назад
It's pointless
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