🔥 200YR Old Hot Sauce | Tomato Catsup |How Tall Were They Really?| LIVE CHAT 

To those who remember the chew chat that we put out yesterday there were 2 minutes of audio missing. The Rayfield Elves took it down and reuploaded it during the night. If you see your comment on the previous video missing that is why as this is a new video. Thank you. ❤

Y'all got to be my favorite frontier couple, many blessings on your recent nuptials.

You were right Ron, the word Catsup means, basically "Sauce". It is thought to be from the Hokkien Chinese word kê-tsiap, which referred to a fermented fish sauce. The transition from kê-tsiap to catsup involved several phonetic changes as the term was adopted into English during the late 17th century. Also adapted from the Malay term kecap (or kicap) was the word used for soy sauce.

Ron, the Spanish Receipt for catsup you read is actually French unless it is a French copy of a Spanish receipt. Justine's receipt actually sounds worthy of trying out.

White catsup has white wine vinegar, anchovies, sherry wine, lemon peel, bay leaves, horseradish, nutmeg, cloves, white pepper, ginger, shallots and salt.

I love watching you two. I love your sweet relationship to one another and your audience. I also love that you both are unashamed of your faith and pray before your meals. May God continue to bless your lives, marriage, and channels.

I would go to the doctor about the wasp stings. They can be dangerous, so far it hasn't been a systemic reaction. Take it from a retired ER nurse, the next time it could be worse. You really should have a epi pen to be safe and at least benadryl on hand. Be safe.😊

Another reason for lower ceilings is smaller spaces are easier to heat. Cozy is the word.

Max Miller from the RU-vid channel, Tasting History with Max Miller, did a great video called: A History of Ketchup, wherein he delves into the origins. Very cool and informative and very much pertinent to this video. Which I might add, was awesome!

Thank you, Rayfields for the C and C fun! It's always fun spending time with you. The catsup sounds wonderful. I love heat. The door looks beautiful and I cannot wait to see more. Be safe in the sun, careful on the homesite and blessed always! xoxo

“Pudding” does not necessarily connote a sweet dish! Wikipedia: “In the United Kingdom, Ireland and some Commonwealth countries, the word pudding is used to describe sweet and savoury dishes. Savoury puddings include Yorkshire pudding, black pudding, suet pudding and steak and kidney pudding. Unless qualified, however, pudding usually means dessert and in the United Kingdom, pudding is used as a synonym for dessert. Puddings made for dessert can be boiled and steamed puddings, baked puddings, bread puddings, batter puddings, milk puddings or even jellies.”

Ron and Justine, this was so fun to watch! From the tater tots to Ron’s vivid description of what milk does to him, 😂 I laughed so much! Love the new door, great color. You guys are the best! Thank you for being real and yourselves. Love ya both 💜

Americans have forgotten what fresh real food tastes like. Maybe some people have never had fresh real food. Thank you for sharing ❤

Love the idea of a cookbook, Justine. Early American Receipts (A cookbook of favorite recipes as prepared on the RU-vid channel Early American)

the nightshade family contains nicotine, in case you did not know… And nicotine is NOT rated to be cancerogenous as so many other other things found in food we consume on an everyday basis….

do not use water people! use milk or bread to cut the heat!!!

I love the good artwork you are using to explain things to your audience!

LOL Ron, ate all the tater tots. and at the end Justine , asks or he asks do you want the last one ..I never laughed so hard I swear to you.. never ..Justine, I think you should have made triple the amount... but this is very interesting ..I like it❤

Thank you for your programs. There is always something unexpected to learn. Great fun! Love tater tots!!!!

I enjoy your chew and chats and also enjoy the outdoor ones. It's nice to see you dying of heat in the summer. I think you also have a little more energy when it isn't so hot. That Catsup would make me very ill as I have always had a great sensitivity to spices. Wish that weren't so, but I also don't swell up like a balloon if I am stung. We had a friend who was so allergic to poison ivy, that if it was being burned somewhere, the smoke would react with her and she would get very ill. Keep up the good work. And the door looked great.

Ron, my wife Amy is worried that if you get stung anywhere around your neck or head you will have a bad allergic reaction and it will affect your breathing. If you have that much swelling around your ankle when you get stung, it's going to be much worse around your head and neck. Please carry an epipen and make sure Justine knows how to use it!!!!!

Love you guys!

For the height of ceilings and doors, don’t forget the expense and difficulty of heating since heat rises, and the lower the door, the less heat rolls out when it is opened.

You are thinking of writing a Cookbook? Oh yes please! I would love that. Kickstarter?? With Rons fun facts throughout that would be fantastic!

While watching you make it i wondered if it would taste like sriracha. Sriracha is a fermented pepper sauce and thats basically what you added to it, yall made a healthy sriracha. We ferment and pickle our own food, so I'm going to have to make this from scratch. That looks like something I would eat before going outside and working on the farm in the winter. I do enjoy garlic in almost all my food. How hot was it in there? I love y'all's home y'all are building, We already have the blueprints for the one I'm going to have the Amish build for us and it looks very similar to yours. So like the federalist style, I'm southern originally so i have to have a wrap around porch.

Love watching you guys.

The plants you mentioned: tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, ground cherries, tobacco are all in the Solanaceae or nightshade family. From your friendly plant taxonomist in Morgantown, WV.

I loved your video it was nice to see you two outside look like you enjoyed yourself. I was hoping to see mishmish come by.

Your prayer is so sweet. Amen!😊

White ketchup is made with anchovies, vinegar, horseradish and spices, I get tired of people saying people were shorter back in the day!

French fries were invented in Belgium; they sold on the streets as a snack in the mid-1850s. They were called French fries because they were French cut. Interesting note about tomatoes drawing the lead from the plates, Ron! Tomatoes were grown, but not eaten, in Colonial days; they were grown for size, reading bragging rights.

I laughed when you took that tea towel off! Tater Tots!! Yum!😂❤

That ketchup looks wonderful! I'm one of those folks who reaaaaally loves spicy food (I order my entrees "extra hot" at Thai restaurants and eat Buldak noodles at least once a week) and have probably a 4/5 spice tolerance, so that ketchup seems right up my alley! I'm curious what kind of chili vinegar was used for it though? I imagine the spice level would vary greatly depending on the kind of chili pepper used and I honestly have no idea what kind of peppers were grown in the 1800's.

It's because of the vinegar that they're using they're using a high concentrate of vinegar in the modern-day ketchup and they have to counter the flavor with some kind of sweetener it's much like most pickling recipes require that you use sugar to counter the vinegar well the taste of the vinegar anyway.

I made oyster mushrooms. Oh my, so good. A little light and butter salt. I seen some skin of mushroom turn golden so then I put med cheddar cheese grate on it. Oh, dont need meat with this..

There are so many folk remedies using what was available in frontier days, there must be some kind of poultice that helps venomous stings. Susan Wittig Albert writes a series (China Bayles mysteries )each featuring some type of plant.

I didnthear you talk about that big rain strong last week. We were having 100 + degree weather and today and a few more days of hot July. Last week I felt like hopping in a plane and coming to your house. My garden started late cause of June weather. Hows yours?

The Grandfather of Tatertots is the Potato Croquette, which dates back to 18th Century France. You might want to look for a receipt for that, especially considering the history of St Genevieve. Also, I have a Tomato Catsup receipt from an American cookbook in about the same time period that is almost identical, except it calls for Cider Vinegar instead of Chili Vinegar. Mushroom Catsup is good too. I like to use it as a substitute for Worcester sauce when I'm working out Vegan recipes for my customers. Also, a good place to find old, old cookbooks (free) is Project Gutenberg.

From Slice of Bluesky:"This one has white wine vinegar, anchovies, sherry wine, lemon peel, bay leaves, horseradish, nutmeg, cloves, white pepper, ginger, shallots and salt. Before adding the wine and aromatics, the mixture is strained. After adding aromatics, Kitchiner instructs that you should “keep it in a warm situation for ten days, shaking it up every day, and then decant it for use,” so the final catsup appears to be a somewhat clear liquid."

I just came home from Vacation! Missouri & Ohio and I had a Great time although I did bring Poison ivy with me 😂! I got it as soon as I walked out of the car car after arriving at my cousins house and admiring some of the wildflowers that were growing there and got too close! Not much of a reaction the whole week I was there, came home and been home almost a week and woke up with blotches all over my upper torso! I wish I was like you and wasn’t allergic to it!😂😂 I wish you would show some of your house build, and your garden. Have a great weekend and stay safe.❤

Thanks for a brilliant video. I love the outdoor vibe you have going on. My mum used to make home made ketchup and I remember it being so hot,but yummy. Wasps stings are the worst,so glad you’re feeling better.❤️❤️❤️

As you read that receipt early on, I just had to chime in: there's a book on how it used to be done, Preserving without Canning or Freezing. I have this huge bowl, think punch bowl, it gets filled with washed tomatoes, cover with cloth and leave for 8 days or so till it stops bubbling. Stirring daily. Then strain and bottle, topping off with oil so air cannot get in to spoil the sauce and cover with cheese cloth and rubberband. If you take some out, top off with more oil. Took me about 6 months to try it the first time I made it and guess what!! I didn't die!! Hah. It was delicious. We have lost so much of the way things were done back long ago. Nothing was rotted or dangerous about it.

Can't wait to taste the catsup. I grew up on the beach eating tons of seafood and we always made our own cocktail sauce. You could see the horseradish in the ketchup and always a couple more shakes of hot sauce. The store bought tastes like ketchup. Thanks, love you guys

Ron and Justine , i love your videos ! I Love history and the cooking and day to day living that people experienced is really fun to learn about ! Love seeing you experiment with the receipts that you show !!! I'm sure people in the past did that as well . Have a wonderful weekend ! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

I had a tough day today and I just wanted to see something wholesome and relaxing. So I watch your wedding documentary and it was great. Highly recommend it😊

Hey Guys! I really enjoy your content. You are awesome. I live in the area you visited on your honeymoon. You should have visited Yorktown VA. This weekend they are having a celebration of the American Revolution. Just thought of you guys. Something I thought you would enjoy knowing. Keep up the goid work. Thanks

If you don't have an epi pen on hand, you can grab some broadleaf or narrow leaf plantain and use it. You can chew on it to break it up and then put on the sting. It will draw out the stuff that's causing a reaction. If you don't have that in your yard, then grab some meat tenderizer and mix enough water to make a paste and put it on the sting it'll do the same thing as the plantain. They both work like a charm. Personally, I keep a jar of crushed dried plantain leaves for this purpose and will add a couple of drops of water to make a paste to put on the stings and use a bandaid to hold it in. Within 30 mins to an hour there is hardly any trace of the bee sting.

Justin when you make your recipe book - I will buy it 😀. Sure enjoy your videos! Ron you may need an epen (emergency spring shot) for those bee stings. I am allergic to wasp stings and have a epen. You may also want to carry Benadryl with you or put some in your vehicle and homes. Just giving you some care 🎉.

There is a museum in my area with a lot of authentic 1800s clothing and the clothes do seem quite small. The size of a typical 13-15 year old I would say. But what’s interesting is the shoes all look the same size as today. I think a lot of people had their growth stunted by hard work at a young age and lack of access to calories. Yet feet didn’t seem impacted by it and looked big for the size of the clothes.

Love your show. I am looking forward to your cookbook whenever you get around to doing it. I would buy a copy. Go Justine!!!!!❤❤❤

It's always a great day when I get a notification that you have posted a new video!

A dish I had in the 1980s was bluefish baked with mayo on top. It was actually very good!

True story, Justine. I have never reacted to any amount of poison ivy exposure. I grew up roaming through the timber in Central Illinois and didn’t have any issues, ever! Until I hit my 50’s! It is horrible! It is incredibly painful.

Love watching both channels and I love spicy food! So I’ll have to make this catsup

Justine, the joke about doors growing in the forest was funny. Ok, so I’m the average height for a man in colonial America. I get my height from my paternal grandmother, she could relate to me finding cute shoes growing up. Now size 10 is no big deal, earlier I wore Converse because I could wear them no boats. Also people dying young, doing my family tree, there have been some that passed away at a fairly early age in modern times. Then again I had a few that were in their nineties. I must add though, it was men that were well to do. I moved out to the country and suddenly poison ivy is everywhere! I also found out I am highly allergic!

My grandmother from West Virginia used to make a ketchup with green tomatoes, green peppers, cabbage and vinegar which would now be called a chow chow.

I’ve eaten the Dave’s hot chicken slider with reaper heat level twice this week lol. This sauce is right up my alley!

I like the outside venue as well. The mushroom catsup sounds nice. Is there a video of you making it?

NICE SEEING YOU FOLKS DOING VIDEOS OUT SIDE!! Do take care. Fl.

Thank you for the height question. I work in a Regency museum and we get this question sooo much. Constantly have to explain why our costume looks so tiny. I ask visitors to think about the average age/pre pregnancy status and 'want to remember looking at my best' of most women when these dresses get stored away- these are ball gowns/wedding or coming of age dresses, i.e teenagers clothing. it distorts our view of what size women really were like. Separately I've been researching a big project on female convicts transported to Aus from my home town, there are many heights recorded for the working class female convicts (1820s) the average woman is 5ft 1, slightly shorter than average now but not hugely so and still skewed as it includes girls who had not yet fully grown.

You could make this spicy catsup, can it in a big pot over a fire and sell it to your viewers and in the stores in Genevieve! ( Maybe cut back a little on the heat). I'm putting my order in now!😂

I just adore tater tots! I never heard of them until the 1980s. Even though I was born 1954 in Oregon.

Im a fairly new subscriber... really love your channel & glad I found it

I am an Advanced EMT and I also have a bee/wasp allergy. I had two bad reactions similar to your reactions, Ron then my Doctor perscribed an Epipen. Bee, Wasp, Hornet Allergies can cause an anaphhylaxic reaction on the 1st sting or the 100th sting, it is different for every single person. I would suggest that you bring it up to your Doctor and discuss possible options. Please do not ignore your body's reactions.

Thanks for sharing this recipe! Love your channel and knowledge of historical living. Is there a chili vinegar recipe in your historic cookbook? Have you made it on your channel?

Really enjoyed this week's Chew & Chat. Wasps are horribly aggressive! I accidentally ran into a nest a few years ago and a wasp came right up to my lip and stung me on it! Ow, did that hurt! When I was a kid if a honey bee stung me on my foot, my leg up to my knee swelled up just like you described, Ron. The doctor gave me benadryl to pull the swelling down. So, you could try that next time, Ron. It also works well getting rid of itching from mosquito bites or anything that makes you itch. I have a horrible reaction to black fly bites. The itch is horrible with those bites! So, I take Benedryl and it helps so much. My hubby is very allergic to many things and carries an epipen with him, especially if we are in nature. Justine, I, too, am not allergic to poison ivy. When I was a teen, I would work at apple farms picking up apples after the tree was given a good shake by a machine. There was always poison ivy around the trees, so they wanted people who were not allergic. I didn't know if I was or not, so gave it a try and that's where I learned I didn't have the allergy. Sure was happy I could make some spending money because of it. 😊 Have a great weekend! God bless! Sue 😊❤

Ron, I don't know what variety of Heinz ketchup you had in hand, but I always buy "Simply Heinz" and the listed ingredients are: Tomato concentrate from red ripe tomatoes, distilled vinegar, cane sugar, salt, onion powder, spice (doesn't specify), natural flavoring (doesn't specify). High fructose stuff is a sweetener (yuck!!!). Nothing artificial that I could see.

I get the same local allergic reaction with bee stings. I went to the hospital for it (back in the late 1900s ie in the 90s lol) at University, because the swelling kept spreading from my ankle to my foot and up my leg... They gave me an antihistamine, and wrapped my leg tightly w a bandage. You can check with a doctor for sure, but I would have an over the counter antihistamine on hand to take especially if you do ever get stung in the throat area or mouth; but it's also to stop the swelling anywhere!!!

Justine. I have been inspired by you for the past few years to do hearth cooking in my 18 century house. I’ve been cooking on the open hearth for more than 30 years as a 18 century reenactor, but I did not cook in my home until the last couple years after watching you cook in your sweet little fireplace. So I have created menus that are 18 century. I have found a receipt from Colonial Williamsburg website for potato balls. The early potato nuggets. We made them and they were delicious if I ever make them again I might try this catsup “Mix mashed potatoes with the yelk of an egg, roll them into balls, flour them, or cover them with egg and bread crumbs, fry them in clean dripping, or brown them in a Dutch oven. They are an agreeable vegetable relish and a supper dish.” - RANDOLPH, MARY. “THE VIRGINIA HOUSEWIFE.” PG.120. Thank you for inspiring me. PS tried to insert a photo but couldn’t figure it out.

Look up the song "Molly Malone" -- "cockles and Russell's alive alive oh"

Napolean’s Old, Middle, and Young Guard were all over six foot tall. In Indiana (US Civil War), the Van Buskirk family, both immediate and extended were all over six feet tall. They gave the 27th Indiana Volunteer Infantry a larger than normal appearance. In Europe in the 18th and 19th century the Grenadier regiments were all in the six-foot range. That and the bear skin hats made them imposing.

Ive never attempted tator tots. Way to go. I made yesterday french fries ans steak strips. But The ketchup for internally warmth should be eaten in January at a minus 5 degrees. But I bet its delicious!!!! How is your new house? Are you moved in. I pray all your plans today will be fullfilled and done for completing your home. It takes time

Tater Tots: truly manna from heaven! It's like having hash browns that you can eat with your hands! i'm in my late 60's and I still looooove tater tots.

Great episode!

This catsup sounds tastey, i will have to give it a try... A cook book would be a great idea, I would definitely purchase one! I never met anyone else who was immune to poison ivy! My dad, sisters and I are all immune too 😅 my dad said he had a bad case of it once when he was younger and never had a reaction again to it, we all were in it from head to toe as kids and never had reactions to it yet. 🤔 So strange! I do hope that it passed on to my children as well.

I'm a fellow content creator and my specialty is gardening. You would probably love the book "The Tomato in America: Early History, Culture, and Cookery" It goes back to your time in history and before and after, and is really interesting!

People never would have lifted logs over their head because it was too dangerous. They either rolled them up using logs and people pulling on the other side or a kind of block and tackle system. That goes for the posts in a post and beam house, also. Also, being an eleventh generation New Englander, the ceilings here were low in order to keep the heat down, thus keeping you warmer. I assume it was for that reason in the midwest as well.

I like you, bees would just come out of nowhere and sting me. Then, that area would swell up badly. Also, poison oak and poison ivy were not my friends. Every year, when I started school, I would have to wear knee socks to cover the rash. But as I grew older, bees don't bother me even when they are flying around me in the garden. Can't say anything about poison ivy since I don't get around it. 😊

The recipe is in French, and a cuillère à café, at least nowadays, equals a tea spoon

I didn’t know. I’m sure the Italians are VERY Thankful to the USA 🇺🇸

Ron, you have a wasp allergy. Please know it can worsen into needing a rescue epipen. This happened to me with sulfites. Please be careful. Benadryl saved me many times. Open a capsule under your tongue if you don't have an epipen . Works faster this way. I'm sharing this so you don't get caught without help if your allergy worsens. ❤

Love this!! (And I love tots!).

Yay! for curly fries they're great!!! Oh yest and the Tader Totts !!

Sugar cuts the acidity of the tomato , my mom always added a pinch to her homemade sauce.

I used lavender essential oil on a wasp sting. Swelling went down fast. I carry lavender oil in my purse.

That house is going to do you in Ron. Heat stroke, wasp stings, door and window stresses, well issues etc…you’re a true settler, forging onward!

Hey guys… Could you give us the names of those books? I really want to do more of a deep dive into American history and those books look intriguing!

my uncle was never allergic to poison ivy, and used to remove it from peoples yards for money.

Sorry I missed live chat, 😢. Just wanted to say when I visited Versailles the security line was long, no food allowed. so I started eating a sandwich I smuggled in, security swarmed me and I explained I didn’t wanna go through security again, they let me out to finish my sandwich quick. 🇫🇷

I think some varieties of catsup were meant to be diluted in other recipes, too. Like as a soup base of sorts, I guess.

I was not allergic to Poison ivy or poison oak growing up. We played around it all the time. I never had it. Now that I am grown I cant get near it or I will have it on me. Strange isnt it.

Thats Tomato Paste, the recipe that Ron read.

I just made this and it is hot as hell! lol The only thing I wonder is if the chili vinegar I made with chili's and stuff is the same. I couldn't find any so I made my own. It would be nice if possible to tell us how to get these old ingredients. thanks Also I love your video and have bought my own 1700s toaster lol Going to try it tomorrow! Deer stew and cheese bread! thanks

Sorry Ron "La tomate perdue" is French , not Spanish 😅

Check out plantain weed (not the banana) for wasp stings. You probably have it growing around your place.

I love Thriftbooks, too😄

Miracle Whip is a salad dressing not mayonnaise. Duke’s is absolutely the best mayonnaise ever.

Yes! Loved viennas as a kid. As an adult, what was I thinking? Yuck.

Ive always wondered who was the first one to get brave enough to eat a tomato...😅

I was never allergic to poison ivy, unit I turned 55 - 60 and now if I get just the smallest amount on me it spreads like wild fire. One time I had to be hospitalized because it spread so fast and became severely infected.