🔴 Why I just BOUGHT a Leica M10! (+Concerns/ Planned Mods) 

Haha thanks Chris, I didn’t wake up planning to buy a camera but when I saw the price I had to! Bread and water for 2024 but it’s worth it!

Yeah, it's not as if he has a spouse and has to go around saying,”Sorry, dear, I meant to buy a packet of crisps but clicked the wrong button and didn't realize it until it was too late…”

@@jlwilliams 😂😂 yes the joys of being single!

Thanks Tobi! Yes I’m excited to relearn my M Jedi skills haha! Merry Christmas!

Yes a black paint M10R would be very nice but for now this fits within budget (kind of!)(My M240 lasted me 8yrs which is impressive!)

M10-R BP is a solid investment and a great camera!

Agree with both of you. The black one all day long for me, such a gorgeous and amazing camera.

Where would you get a M10/r?

@@stillben MPB or similar or Leica stores (used)

Thank you Fabian, very kind! Yes I'm like that sometimes. Spontaneous. It keeps things fresh! Just to note I got the basic M10 which is 24MP not the M10R which is the 40MP one. 24MP is still enough for me. 40MP will show too much detail in the models skin so more work to edit. Have a good one!

Thanks Kev! Yes exciting times ahead for 2024. Can I get my ninja M camera skills back like I used to have! New videos coming soon!

Thanks Marc and I appreciate your feedback. Yes I do like to try all brands of lenses on the Leica cameras.

I really get bored with those who look down on anything not from Wetzlar.

Thanks Rex! You too

Thank you Micheal! Yes I really enjoyed Valencia. I might be going again quite soon to teach so i'll be taking the M10 for sure!

Thank you! Yes it only arrive today so I spend the day making a video. Very excited to start testing now!

Thanks Steve, no way, you are the second viewer to nearly buy this camera (but kindly not)(thanks!). Yes the M240 a few weeks earlier might be a little soon for an upgrade haha. More M content coming soon so stay tuned and have a great Christmas!

Thanks Zeno, no way, you are the 3rd! person to comment saying you'd seen the camera (2 others nearly bought it, one had it in their basket!). Phew! Many thanks and yes new videos coming soon! Have a good one!

At least I know it's going to the best home.

Great stuff Steve!! I'm glad it's not just me. A black M10R would be lovely but this will keep me out of trouble for now! :) Congrats on your M10M!

Ah amazing! Congrats. Great to hear and yes I can't wait to get started with mine. (It only arrived this morning and I spent the rest of the day making the video lol!)

Hi Nolan, oh no, sorry to make your spend your money! (Both purchases should be a safe bet. More videos to confirm coming soon!). Merry Christmas too!

Thank you and congrats for getting back into film! Great stuff. Yes TLR cameras are a lot of fun so good choice!

Thanks Paul!

Thanks! Loving so far!

Thanks Sandy, It will be nice to try to get back into the M system again. Beautiful camera!

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom You are a bad influence. I have no more use for another 50 than a hog does for roller skates, but I got the 7Artisans 1.1, US$312.55 delivered. I couldn't pass up that deal. Keep up the street shots. You have a great eye for "the scene."

@@zoltankaparthy9095 ha thanks Sandy! Sorry about that! Congrats all the same and I hope your copy is as good as mine.

Thanks Don! "Same magic as the M9!!" That sounds good to me! I can't wait to start testing!

The M9 has massive magic. My fav camera on a sunny day!

Yep! Still have mine :-) @@CrueLoaf

@@thedondeluxe6941 I sent mine back to Germany and got the sensor replaced (corrosion caused spots) and it’s still battling on!

Good to hear! I have one of the later M-E versions, and it has never needed sensor replacement. Fingers crossed it will stay that way🤞🏻@@CrueLoaf

Thank you James, yes I liked the idea of the beautiful P bodies too but this one was too good to miss. Merry Christmas!

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Well it took me until Father's Day here in Switzerland but I've pulled the trigger and now I have a new (to me) M10-P in my hands and I love it! Just saw your video on Akara Labs' 6-bit encoder and ordered that to deal with setting up all of my vintage Leica lenses (and a couple of affordably priced "artisans") for the new camera. 🤩

@@JamesBoyer-plus congrats!

Thanks Ian and great to hear! Yes I didn't expect to get an M10 any time soon due to the price but when I found this one I saw it as my opportunity! I'm glad you did the same with your M240. The M240 has worked well for me for 8yrs (and still looks almost new) so I'm excited to test vs the M10. Maybe you don't need the M10 (some even like the older M240 files!). Stay tuned and I'll share my results.

Thank you!! Yes I am very keen to see how the 2 cameras compare too. (Many say they are quite similar so we shall see). For the price I think it was a good investment and the black model is a welcome addition to my kit! Lots of new video coming soon for 2024!

Thanks! Originally I had my heart on the P version but ended up getting the 10 as better value. The P does look lovely!

Thank you! Yes the M11 is a little (a lot) out of my budget range but I felt really lucky to find this more affordable M10. Lots of M videos coming soon! Merry Christmas!

Thanks! Yes nice camera for sure

Woo M10-P Reporter AND D .. very nice! I'll still like the P if I find a great deal. More M videos coming soon!

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I think the P had a little softer release but not many other differences. Keep up the M vids. 👍

Thank you! New M videos coming soon!

Ha thank you!

Haha I might be able to do it for 1 short trip, maybe then it will be time to test the next lens for YT! :)

Thank you!

Thanks Mark, very kind. I plan to keep both to start with so I can test side by side and then we'll see after that. Great to hear you have the D!

Thanks! Yes it was perfect timing with the M10 purchase coming soon after. It looks very promising and yes I hope to do a video in January.

Thank you! Yes I've never seen a Leica M10 so cheap so I "had to"! Yes diopter video to come in Jan24.

Great news and sorry you will not get before Christmas. I only bought mine yesterday so I expected it next week but to my surprise it came this morning. I've not taken any real photos yet as I was making the video! (Love your M6 story, great find. Sometimes you just have to buy if you find a great deal I think!). More M10 content coming soon!

Thanks Eric! I'm excited to get back into ..dare I say.."proper Leica photography" again! (I will share the journey anyway!). Enjoy your M10M!

Congrats! You’ll be living like me soon! Cheap but healthy :)

Ha nice! Sounds like a good move to me (based on being an ex-Nikon guy too!)(I still have the film cameras).

Thank you! I waited 8yrs so I am close to you, just a little ahead! I will share lots of videos so you know if it is worth saving for! :)

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Hahaha yeah well, I think if someone deserves it, it is you Matt! You will get the best out of the M10 for sure🙌 I look forward to your work with this beauty. For me, if there is gonna be a replacement for my old M8 it will be a M Monochrome. Thats my dream for now. And a hard enough financial challenge for me😂. But I say, enjoy what you got. And I really like the old Kodak CCD sensor M8. So no complaints 🤗

Thanks Wilfed!

Thanks! Yes ideally I would press buy on a black paint M10R but the bank would reject the transaction haha. Yes I love the idea of going back to the limitations of M cameras and working harder for my images. There is something special about M cameras (any model*).

Hi Adam, many thanks. Sorry I missed your invite. One of my Patreons attended and then met me in Lanzarote direct from Paris. Hope you had a good trip and yes i'm looking forward to the M10. (Enjoy your M11M and have a good one!)

Thanks! yes someone send me a link and mentioned the tool is needed. The artist in me would have red but as I want to keep the camera as long as possible it would likely be boring black. For now I will use as it as i'm rubbish at DIY!

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I think watching you 'fix it' would be fun! (I'd try contacting the seller and seeing if they are interested in a collaboration anyway?)

Thanks! Yes I have considered the Thumbs grips (of sorts, I used to use on my M9 pre 2015). I will likely shoot mostly full manual but I set the camera to -2/3 just in case.

Thanks Avery! M11 as a first, very cool! Yes the M10 is similar. Like the M11, it gives the ultimate digital analogue experience.

Thanks Bruno! Yes you are way ahead of me. This was just a quick teaser video the day the camera arrived. Full usual detailed videos to come! (Lots of ..I keep adding to my video list!)(various M topics)

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom All the best Matt (remember we believe in you ;o).

Yes used you can find deals (especially if you trade in an existing camera). Cheers!

Ah great, yes pretty similar. I spent my first full day with the 10 today so I’ll try to make a video to share my thoughts and new ‘M style’ photos!

Haha yes sorry for the "M11..s" in this video, my mind must have been elsewhere! Yes i'm excited to get started!

Thank you Hektor! Yes absolutely. The SL is a no brainer for Leica for me to recommend. (M cameras always seemed overpriced in comparison when I know I can get similar photos from both.. and in honestly, likely better photos from the SL as I can do more things with it BUT this M10 was discounted so much I wanted to try to have it "less easy" and try to get back to a more analogue style of shooting via the RF)(like I used to). Will it work for me, we shall see but it will be a fun journey! ..and yes I think I was thinking of the M11 too haha.

Haha I know, sorry. My little brain was overloaded and malfunctioned. I can't afford the M11 so I was pretending I had bought one I think!

Thanks! Noted. I tend to shoot at 0.7m but great info for others. Have a good one!

Yes it's a tough one! M9 cameras are special no doubt but my brain said get a more modern M10 which is more suited for client work/ professional needs. Both give their own benefits so no right or wrong.

Thanks Thomas (I only showed a few film Ms but yes ha!) I only just got the LLL finder (before the camera so it was lucky timing).

Fantastic! Hopefully I can follow your footsteps! (I'll share my M10 journey as I go!)

Great story, thanks for sharing!

Yes I think 21mm but try Google search to be 100%

Thanks, yes very lucky timing.. the one day I look! It was too cheap not to buy, similar to the top priced mint M240s

Thank you! Better late than never!

Hi Gary, hmm, I was say exterior damage is fine for me but not inside. Any defect that means you can't accurately use the camera is a no for me. RF must be clear and bright. (it will still work and you can likely get it cleaned but I would look for a cleaner copy in this instance).

Sadly, so many pieces of gear that have sat in a drawer for years look great but suffer from poor storage and lack of use. Much better gear that’s been used but not abused. Thanks.

Thanks Ronald, haha I know right! My mind must have wandered :) The M10 is working so far. See last night's new vid!

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom The M10 is great. I bought one 1,5 year ago and am still extremely happy with it! Thx!

Thanks Rob! Yes i'm excited to see what I can do (I just booked a cheap trip so I can test it asap)

Thanks Alfredo, Yes they do look very pretty! I don't plan to use in extreme cold and I expect to have to fix the calibration (like on my M240) so hopefully no extra surprises!

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Hi Matt. For sure you will shoot great pics with this camera, looking forward to see them!

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom yes, after a month of wondering what was going on I sent mine to Cameraworks-uk who fixed mine double quick about this time last year. Really great service from them.

Comparison video to come vs SL and M240.. I'm not checked side by side but it will be far better than the M240!

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I'm considering upgrading my m240 to the M10 but the live view quality would be the deciding factor for me. I use it occasionally on the m240 but the viewing angles quite bad once the screens not directly Infront of me. Hoping the M10 has improved viewing angles for low/higher shots.

Yes agreed, I have gone full circle. (It might not work out but I want to give Ms another go). It came after nailing almost every photo with my M240 and 50mm f1.1 in the last video. It restored my faith in the system (after I recalibrated the M240 myself). I LOVE the SL EVF but I like shooting film cameras and digital Ms without EVF are the next closest thing. (..and they are smaller vs SL).

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yes, for sure. The Ms are much more fun, and if you use them a lot, you learn to focus fast. And a digital M with a small lens fits in the pocket, unlike the giant SL.

Thanks Jacob! No I part-ex'd my M9 then a few years later sold the M8 once I had the SL I think. I had more cameras than excuses. Now I have the M240 (which I may sell once I test verses the M10), SL, CL and Q (which I don't use so much)

Not yet. I want to test both cameras side by side first. No rush to sell.

If it works as normal I think I would consider it. I was debating whether to get this for the same reason (should I not get a cleaner copy after waiting 8yrs to upgrade), but eventually I thought, I buy cameras to use and to the most part it looks great so I went for it.

Thanks James, absolutely, yes a combination of less easy and more "true Leica", dare I say it, is appealing. It's a good excuse to relate to all the M users too for future videos. (Yes haha regarding the M11, I will have to keep one eye open!)

Easier? No, Faster? No. ..BUT if the lens or camera is not calibrated the EVF gives you the option to accurately focus. That's what pushed me to the EVF originally. My RF was knocked out (again) and I wasn't fixing it myself back then. Now I adjust my M240 myself (see my M3 calibration video) and now I can nail focus at f1.1 very easily and fast (**On a lens that matched my body, like the 7Artisans 50 1.1 video). I like the idea of a simple process too!

Thanks. Sorry for the delay on that

I know, a lot! Sorry for that! (I must be thinking of M11!)

Yes the M240 offers a great middle ground. I’m keen to do some side by side testing to see if any differences so stay tuned!

Sounds like copium 🥲

If you see my newer videos I now have a cover/grip over it to make it look tidier. No the whole lot would not come off but you can re-skin cameras if needed.

It sounds great but yes it might be safer to find one with a replaced sensor. (You can get sensors replaced worst case*)

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks for your feedback. That is a very good guidance. Best regards. Maximilian (P.S. Happy New Year and all the best for 2024!)

Ah great stuff! Congrats! I will share my M10 journey as I go and I'm sure you will be able to relate! Enjoy your M10M!

See the Q3 vs M11 video or Q3 v Q2 v Q video

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thank you Matt. This is my fav photography channel. You remind me of the likes of William Eggleston.

Ha thanks Chris! Yes the M10-P is the quieter one. Luckily models don't care about click sounds!

Haha I did think that too!! I blame my small brain! Dyslexic! Many thanks!

Ha sorry, my mind obviously wandered!

Yes the M3 is all you need! I still love mine. Many thanks

Thanks Carlos, yes I'm excited to do some testing. So far so good!

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I shoot mine without any accessories. I like the feel of the shutter button. For the rangefinder I’m wondering if a Walter contrast lens for the viewfinder would be better than a magnifier.

@@carlosmcse thanks. My shutter button felt like my R cameras (Leica R). More travel required so needs a soft release. I’ve not noticed with my other cameras.

@@carlosmcse and it’s more my eyesight (I should wear glasses!) so diopters help

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom oh so try Walter Leica. It says “Dioptre lenses can be ordered in the following increments: plus/minus 0,25; 0,5; 0,75; 1,00; 1,25 ; 1,50; 1,75 upwards.”

Haha thanks John. I know I must want the M11, I said it by accident enough times haha. No the M10 will do me for now. Prices for the M11 is too much so I'll wait 5yrs or so haha (I waited 8yrs since the M240 purchase which I think is impressive.. but I did get the CL, SL and Q since then!).

Thank you!

Ha, I've been doing this for over a decade so I guess I collect them along the way. I buy mostly online and import if I need to (LLL for example).

Ah no way! Yes I rang up as soon as they opened yesterday when I accidentally saw the price. I couldn't believe it. Thanks for leaving it for me if you spotted it first haha and congrats on your very nice Q3M! Cheers!

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I even put it in my basket but couldn't justify it along with the Q2M! Owned an M10 twice before but couldn't get along with the overexposed highlights and using faster lenses.

@@vikdaddy I should be fine for metering as I’ll manually expose and yes hopefully I can continue my recent high hit rate with fast glass. (I need to get my ninja skills back.. I used to shoot weddings with my M9 and a Nocti (wide open!)

haha I know right! Not sure how that happened but yes maybe it's a sign haha. I'll start with the M10!

Haha yes sorry about that!

Sorry Jens, M10 throughout!

I checked and it is accurate. Recently I recalibrated my M240 so that is now also very accurate (see my M3 calibration video). That's what restored my faith in the M system (after the 50 1.1 video). (Same hit rate with M240 as SL at f1.1)

Good to hear! I read that the M10 had an improved rangefinder design, but I haven't heard too much from people about it.@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

Hi Adam, yes apologizes. My small brain must have been thinking about the M11 and sating the wrong words. No I stayed with the M10. M11 is too much for me.

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaComahh cheers Matt, my predicament is I’d like an M, I currently have a GFX for my work and want something different for fun, but also possibly for a backup - the M11 can be tethered and uses Profoto, has comparable specs to GFX, could be a backup at a push, but it’s so much more than an M10. I’m thinking M10 for a year or so and then once it’s paid off get M11. Your videos are really helpful 👍

Thanks Peter! Yes I’m keen to see how the files compare to the M240 (and SL).

Ha thanks Mark, yes sorry about that! The M10 is just fine but yes I must have been thinking newer!

I know! I think deep down I'm pretending it's a black M11! (Sorry for the wrong names!)

I know! Sorry for that ..and yes I think you are correct ha!

Yes so sorry, my little brain got confused I think. I'm not the brightest!

Ha thanks Bill, yes I thought that too although I can't afford the M11 so the M10 will be great for now!

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom for sure!! I got into the Leica ecosystem early in digital like you. I had the M8 (used in 2014), then the M240 new in 2015, then a M246, M10 in 2017, and the OG SL typ 601, and OG Q. When I started to upgrade, I used the M10 to fund the M10-R (and a lens), the SL to fund the SL2-S, the M246 funded the M10-M and when I had extra I got a Q2M. The Q2M and M10-R funded my M11-P, and I've kept the M10-M because I had the "Leitz Wetzlar" edition that was the same price as the normal M10-M but has retained much of its value. My suggestion to folks, besides use whatever you have, has been to treat these cameras at a certain point as tradable/upgradable. You are only then spending the initial "holy shit" money and then each iteration is only an upgrade amount of money, comparable to any camera manufacturer. Now ask me if the M11-P was a GOOD upgrade and I will say... the M10R/M10M are the most stable bodies, the M11 is getting there but needs a few more firmware improvements. The M10/M10P is likely the MOST stable system camera you can get in Leica, outside of the SL you already own, the CL and the Q. So all in all, you are solid with your choice, just in the future - maybe consider the big upgrade, since you are a RU-vid channel dedicated to Leica, it would be worth the investment in the long run!

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaComGreat find Matt. The camera is in good hands. You’ll probably eventually get an M11. It has better battery capacity, built in memory, USB data and charging, etc.

@@johnkasianowicz6536 thanks John!

@@BilBrown thank you! Solid advice. Yes it was the fact that I’m a Leica channel that gave me the excuse to upgrade as to be honest I’m happy with my current cameras but I need to stay current and topical I think. I can’t stretch to the M11 yet as YT doesn’t pay those prices. Agreed I would get a black M10R if I trade up. They just look so good!

Haha thanks Grom! It was after we all talked about cameras on the Zoom call and after my recent trip. I was planning on the SL2-S as a maybe or the M10-P but this was in my budget (unlike the others) so it seemed meant to be. I rang the store the minute it opened haha :)

I know right! Sorry about that! :S :)