🔵First-year package mite load! (Time to TREAT) - package vs NUC challenge

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@T0tenkampf 4 года назад

1.33% my friend, um....toll tide lol.

@ellenl.5581 4 года назад

Make a chart.

@billmitchell7731 4 года назад

Have you ever done the powder sugar roll to check for mites?? I seen a guy in upper michigan do it. And it didn't kill the bees. And the mites fell off the bees.

@DoubleTopHoneyCo 4 года назад

Zero, zero, and zero yesterday. Not a single treatment since February. Only used 5 essential oils in my syrups and patties. Keep up the great work! For those still learning, .5 cups = 400 bees, .42 cups = 300 bees. The basket itself has had lines in it for years, 200 bees and 300 bees. Fill it, tap it to the line, enclose it, and shake.

@danskisbees7348 4 года назад

Good morning Bill, good deal!

@DoubleTopHoneyCo 4 года назад

@The Hive and The Homestead Good for you and that's awesome! Exactly what I read last fall to test this year. Tried powdered sugar several iterations last year, but never really reduced below an 8 count until I vaped them. Thyme (thymol) oil works great for Tracheal mites. Why spend all that money? These dang bee companies are turning into super greedy businesses. They are charging up to 5x the price of anything you can buy and make yourself. I mean, why pay $15 per hive per year on 2 bags of disposable mite-a-thol when $30 of Thyme oil can treat 100 hives for a year with just adding teaspoons to the 1:1 and patties you are already making? 👍

@privatebubba8876 4 года назад

I like to vigorous shake and swirl the sample to dislodge any stuck mites, the bees are already dead so you aren't going to hurt them. We tested the our clubs hives with alcohol and sugar for a comparison and the sugar roll was typically 50% less than the alcohol wash on the same hives.

@privatebubba8876 4 года назад

@The Hive and The Homestead I have Minnesota Hygienic queens and I don't even use essential oils, I live in the deep south and the bees fly year round so nosema is virtually non existent here. I do monitor for varroa and my hives rarely reach 1% but I find plenty of the little beasties on the sticky board when a lot of brood emerge at the same time.

@DoubleTopHoneyCo 4 года назад

@UCUaeRCv_mp8MjymqHZ2K_aQ What I meant by powdered sugar was for treatment. Open the hives and fill a handheld flour sifter and coat all the bees between the frames and all. This causes them to clean themselves excessively and mites that usually remain during normal hygiene routines are found while getting the sugar off however, after completing the alcohol wash there would still be on average 8 mites per 300 bees, so I switched to essential oils and had zero mites this year. Wasn't trying to insult your bee hygiene intelligence there, but so many on youtube bee channels no nothing at all about bees.

@spicyflyhoneybees1478 4 года назад

Never do math on camera lol. Do you select for resistance in your stock? I know you advocate for treating but i'm curious if you give mite resistance (vsh, chewing, etc) any weight when selecting breeders?

@kamonreynolds 4 года назад

Hi, Michael, I know right! We do select for a resistance where we can. I think we can help by breeding bees that are tougher. I do not believe in immune bees. I have tried to many TF queens over the years for that. I really don't have any I could say I would recommend 100%

@davidgeyer3988 4 года назад

Great show but are there 300 bees in a 1/2 cup like you said or is there 300 bees in a cup like most of the other utube viedos say?

@romoshka1 4 года назад

David work out Geyer 300/half cup

@romoshka1 4 года назад

David work out Geyer if in doubt confirm it yourself. Jason Chrisman recently said 300/cup but I queried him and he responded that he was mistaken

@kamonreynolds 4 года назад

Like steve said 300 1/2 cup

@davidgeyer3988 4 года назад

@@kamonreynolds thanks

@matthewsibley9472 4 года назад

Is there a reason you wouldn't do a sugar roll rather than a alcohol wash Then the bees don't have to die Or am I missing something Love your work

@kamonreynolds 4 года назад

Thanks, Mathew, The alcohol wash is much more accurate compared than the sugar roll in my experience. Not saying they can't work (they do) but I need to know as accurately as possible so I can keep my bees thriving.

@matthewsibley9472 4 года назад

Thought that mite bee the reason Thanx for the reply

@matthewsibley9472 4 года назад

Kamon Reynolds - Tennessee's Bees Thought that mite bee the reason Thanx for the reply

@friedrice9535 3 года назад

@@matthewsibley9472 "MITE" be the reason 🤦‍♀️

@sidelinerbeekeeper 4 года назад

Easy field math without a calculator just remember each mite is 0.33%, so for every 3 mites it is 1%, 4 mites is 1+0.33=1.33%. So if you had 7 mites it's 2.33%. How embarrassing simple math can be. Lol

@SuperBuickregal 4 года назад

How about a common core math variant version of the formula?

@mikeries8549 4 года назад

I can't help but imagine Brian dressed up in his count von count costume ..."five nah ah ah FIVE MITES NAH AH AH!".

@cnevett6854 4 года назад

Thanks!

@user-md4di6yg2p 4 года назад

"I was told there'd be no math"...

@danskisbees7348 4 года назад

Hey Kamon, after working the hives on a hot day, my mind gets foggy too. If I were wearing your T-shirt, it would say (How many?)

@kamonreynolds 4 года назад

I need one of those.

@Dstick1Spearfishing 4 года назад

Why not just treat the hives regardless and save the 300 bees? From what I understand is people are looking at what they started with and where they got to load wise after treatment. Why are folks just not treating a hive as a matter of coarse to get them ready for winter?

@SuperBuickregal 4 года назад

The beekeeping industrial complex effect! The inferior reproduction is what is going on with the Queen rearing is it not all about profits? If a big outfit can sell 10,000 Queens at $30.00 which then equals to $300,000.00 or how about 5000 or just 1000 that is still a lot of money for insects mind you still have overhead.

@danskisbees7348 4 года назад

Well Thomas, you obviously haven't been working your bees this morning either, lol. Good morning sir!

@danskisbees7348 4 года назад

I agree. The only good thing about poorly mated queens is they are superseded and then you end up with a decent queen with local, hybrid vigor, hopefully.

@SuperBuickregal 4 года назад

@@danskisbees7348 Hello Dan this Saturday will be the 5th OAV treatment then I will follow up Monday or Tuesday 1 more time. I plan on doing an inspection later next week. I went from 4 to 2 cut my loss on garbage queens and watching Kamons videos made sense to what was going on. it is still only 07:30 am here and I have a lot things to do.

@danskisbees7348 4 года назад

That's great! I hit them once a couple of weeks ago, it's just been so hot. I think I'll start treating every 4 to 5 days starting next week. Heck, you'll get them back in the Spring, they'll be really strong when you split them. Have a good day!

@SuperBuickregal 4 года назад

@@danskisbees7348 I will try my hand using a few frames from both hives and if possable get one of Kamons queens.Last year we did 4 packages from Barnyard bees and all went into the Winter strong 3 of them died out after the Spring the one that is still going seems to be mite resistant very few mites for some reason.

@Keith-xc9wf 3 года назад

👋 HOWDY Kamen it’s May 1st and I just purchased a nuc of Varroa resistant 🐝 bees and wondering if I should do a mite check right away or should I do it later 21 days from now? Supposedly the beekeeper did mite checks when he made my nucs. Advice sir? Keep those 🐈 cats in order ! Ha

@kamonreynolds 3 года назад

I'd check them about a month after install.

@mikeries8549 4 года назад

This bee math stuff gets incredibly complicated if you start talking about exponential growth and decay curves and natural logarithms. Understanding what's going on in a bee colony numbers-wise requires heavy duty math. To summarize...the killer math is that when bees are in their natural decay curve going into winter the mites are up in the high exponential growth part of their population curve. Bees are dying of old age and not getting replaced while the mites are cranking out babies. When the two growth-decay curves cross...x marks the spot...the colony all gets x's in their eyes. Dead.

@AskTheCarExperts 4 года назад

Hi Kamon, I was wondering if you could answer a question. With a 3 lb package install, should I treat with oxalic acid vapor shortly after installing in a hive with already drawn comb?

@kamonreynolds 4 года назад

Day 7-9 is a great time for OAV after install.

@AskTheCarExperts 4 года назад

@@kamonreynolds Your the best! Thank you for the advice!

@chadeikenhorst4333 4 года назад

4/3 = 3/3(1) + 1/3 = 1 1/3

@bobroby6546 2 года назад

Can we treat in December?

@kamonreynolds 2 года назад

With some of the products you can!

@beewitch5569 4 года назад

Have you ever counted your washed bees to see how close to 300 you get? Our bee association did a mite count and someone counted the bees afterwards and we had gotten 266.

@Dead_Aim556 4 года назад

1.33333%

@danskisbees7348 4 года назад

Well Chris, you obviously haven't been working your hives this morning, lol.

@laurelreynolds5890 4 года назад

Thanks Chris :)

@rickwarner9142 4 года назад

Great information thanks for walking through a wash count.

@londonbeekeeper4852 4 года назад

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: The Prophet (ﷺ) prohibited to kill four creatures: ants, bees, hoopoes, and sparrow-hawks. حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ حَنْبَلٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ، حَدَّثَنَا مَعْمَرٌ، عَنِ الزُّهْرِيِّ، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُتْبَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ، قَالَ إِنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم نَهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ أَرْبَعٍ مِنَ الدَّوَابِّ النَّمْلَةُ وَالنَّحْلَةُ وَالْهُدْهُدُ وَالصُّرَدُ ‏.‏ Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) صحيح (الألباني)حكم : Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 5267In-book reference : Book 43, Hadith 495English translation : Book 42, Hadith 5247

@docash2107 4 года назад

London Beekeeper Who prohibits this?

@reelinhuntin 4 года назад

Bet the prophet didn't have fire ants. What's a Hoopoe?

@villainousssb533 4 года назад

Maybe Mohammad could do us a favour and prohibit veroa mites. While we wait for that we can minimise bee losses by good management which includes alcohol washes.

@badassbees3680 4 года назад

@@reelinhuntin that's hilarious

@reelinhuntin 4 года назад

www.google.com/search?q=hoopoe+bird&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari Never mind professor google answered.

@villainousssb533 4 года назад

Chris is spot on

@trevor311264 4 года назад

well almost, he needs an infinite number of 3s added onto the end....

@villainousssb533 4 года назад

I thought about that but didn’t have time to type in all the “3”s

@danskisbees7348 4 года назад

"To Infinity and Beyond!"

@abellotambfiblo3937 4 года назад

What breed of bee do you work with?

@kamonreynolds 4 года назад

Italian and carni

@abellotambfiblo3937 4 года назад

@@kamonreynolds hybrid?

@kamonreynolds 4 года назад

@@abellotambfiblo3937 I'm sure they are. Nothing is pure one or the other and I don't care either way as long as they are productive, resistant to brood diseases and gentle enough

@abellotambfiblo3937 4 года назад

@@kamonreynolds I was struck that they are not aggressive

@sentimentalbloke7586 4 года назад

1.3%

@George-nx5lo 4 года назад

Kamon is there a need to add water with the alcohol? Some people I see are saying if you don’t then you won’t get an accurate reading

@kamonreynolds 4 года назад

I haven't heard that. It can be watered down a bit but I have had great results using 50% alcohol or 91%

@George-nx5lo 4 года назад

Kamon Reynolds - Tennessee's Bees I have no idea if it’s accurate but some claim there is 2 lines and you fill to the first line with alcohol, then to the 2nd with water... but alcohol % would matter if that were the case so I’m not sure where they are getting their info from

@kamonreynolds 4 года назад

@@George-nx5lo the higher line in the instructions is for a 300 bee count. The lower line is used for a 200 bee count according to the instructions is what I remember reading

@George-nx5lo 4 года назад

Kamon Reynolds - Tennessee's Bees Sorry got that backwards to what they claim, they say first line with water then 2nd with alcohol. Here is the link m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Q3QIvWQahfE.html

@George-nx5lo 4 года назад

Kamon Reynolds - Tennessee's Bees Thank You!

@markjudd8859 4 года назад

Hey Kamon, do you use rubbing alcohol for your washes or grain alcohol? might be a unnecessary question but i asked. thank you for the loads of info....

@kamonreynolds 4 года назад

Hi Mark, Just the Isopropyl Alcohol you get in Wally world. I am sure others would work but lets keep it cheap!

@docash2107 4 года назад

1st

@danskisbees7348 4 года назад

Whoohoo!